Re: [Mailman-Users] fork bomb every night from mailman crons
On Saturday, August 23, 2003, at 08:54 pm, Jens Gutzeit wrote: On Saturday 23 August 2003 21:32, you wrote: On Friday, August 22, 2003, at 03:11 pm, Jens Gutzeit wrote: Every night we have a forkbomb from mailman processes What does this technical term mean? It means, mailman forks very often, we had over 50 python processes running (owned by mailman), a few seconds before that there were only the few qrunner processes running. A few seconds later they die, but the load while forking and dieing is very high (we had a load of 37). Last night it didn't occour, so I can't strace something. I have mailman running on Debian Woody 3. We have another server running SuSE 8.1 with Mailman, there we haven't any problems. We use the latest stable version on both machines. Which version of Mailman is that? MM 2.0.? or MM 2.1.? Any idea which of the cron jobs in Mailman's crontab is generating these processes? How does the time the problem appears correlate with the execution time of the jobs in MM's crontab entries. Jens -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] fork bomb every night from mailman crons
On Friday, August 22, 2003, at 03:11 pm, Jens Gutzeit wrote: Hi all, The next problem: Every night we have a forkbomb from mailman processes What does this technical term mean? (the scripts that gets started by cron). If I start them by hand all is well so it's a bit difficult to debug. I want to attach strace to the process when it comes up this night, but before I do this, just want to ask if there is a better way to debug this? I'm not very familiar with python. Thanks in advance, Jens -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP me for chinese subject in mailman 2.1 please!
On Saturday, August 23, 2003, at 06:19 pm, Ares Liu wrote: Hello, everyone When I use chinese subject, mailman 2.1 will get an error as follow: Aug 24 01:11:33 2003 (2466) Uncaught runner exception: unknown encoding: gb2312 Aug 24 01:11:33 2003 (2466) Traceback (most recent call last): File /var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 105, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 155, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 129, in _dispose status = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File /var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 152, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py, line 74, in process prefix_subject(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py, line 253, in prefix_subject h.append(s, c) File /var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Header.py, line 243, in append s = s.encode(outcodec) LookupError: unknown encoding: gb2312 How to solve this error? http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg15647.html suggests a solution. I found files needed here: http://ntu.tw.freebsd.org/ports/local-distfiles/perky/ ChineseCodecs1.2.0.tar.gz Worked for me but there may be better solutions. Thanks very much! -Ares -- Nuclear Science Technology Virtual Research Center http://nst.pku.edu.cn --- Richard Barrett http://www.openinfo.co.uk -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman / Sendmail horribly slow performance..suggestions please?!?
At 4:39 PM -0500 2003/08/24, Mike Kercher wrote: This could be caused by a DNS bottleneck. I would recommend you setup a caching-only nameserver on your Mailman box and see if that helps. This is covered in Mailman FAQ Entry 6.8. Improving performance by DNS caching http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq06.008.htp. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++): a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI$ P+++ L+ !E-(---) W+++(--) N+ !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) tv+(+++) b+() DI+() D+(++) G+() e++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP me for chinese subject in mailman 2.1 please!
Ares Liu wrote: Hello, everyone When I use chinese subject, mailman 2.1 will get an error as follow: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-i18n/2003-May/000918.html may help. -- Tokio Kikuchi, tkikuchi@ is.kochi-u.ac.jp http://weather.is.kochi-u.ac.jp/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Customising footers in 2.0.13
We're running 2.0.13. Is there some way we can add the real subscription address of users in the footers they get? --- Considering the number of wheels that Microsoft has found reason to invent, one never ceases to be baffled by the minuscule number whose shape even vaguely resembles a circle. -- anon -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Various exceptions
I just installed Mailman 2.1-8 from the RH9 RPM on a machine together
with Postfix 1.1.11-11 and python 2.2.2-26. I (eventually) got it
talking to Apache, and so the web interface is up - but it refuses to
send emails, it has sent one or two to lists but many have disappeared.
Looking at the error log I see plenty of exceptions like this:
Aug 22 15:45:45 2003 (15589) SHUNTING:
1061578033.9225971+f2e1ff1b3868a9e52c73b4969567028c4d80b650
Aug 22 15:46:45 2003 qrunner(15589): Traceback (most recent call last):
Aug 22 15:46:45 2003 qrunner(15589): File /var/mailman/bin/qrunner,
line 270, in ?
Aug 22 15:46:45 2003 qrunner(15589): File /var/mailman/bin/qrunner,
line 230, in main
Aug 22 15:46:45 2003 qrunner(15589): File
/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 59, in run
Aug 22 15:46:45 2003 qrunner(15589): filecnt = self._oneloop()
Aug 22 15:46:45 2003 qrunner(15589): File
/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 88, in _oneloop
Aug 22 15:46:45 2003 qrunner(15589): msg, msgdata =
self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase)
Aug 22 15:46:45 2003 qrunner(15589): File
/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 145, in dequeue
Aug 22 15:46:45 2003 qrunner(15589): os.unlink(dbfile)
Aug 22 15:46:45 2003 qrunner(15589): OSError : [Errno 12] Cannot
allocate memory:
'/var/mailman/qfiles/out/1061578033.942385+2181e4de4b8642c4b81fcf906f40117cfc32eb75.db'
Aug 22 15:46:45 2003 qrunner(31206): Cannot import runner module
Mailman.Queue.OutgoingRunner
Aug 22 15:46:45 2003 qrunner(31206): No module named socket
...and...
Aug 22 15:45:42 2003 (15589) Uncaught runner exception: please run
connect() first
Aug 22 15:45:42 2003 (15589) Traceback (most recent call last):
File /var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 105, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
File /var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 155, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
File /var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py, line 61, in
_dispose
self._func(mlist, msg, msgdata)
File /var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 149, in
process
conn.quit()
File /var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 79, in quit
self.__conn.quit()
File /usr/lib/python2.2/smtplib.py, line 702, in quit
self.docmd(quit)
File /usr/lib/python2.2/smtplib.py, line 357, in docmd
self.putcmd(cmd,args)
File /usr/lib/python2.2/smtplib.py, line 313, in putcmd
self.send(str)
File /usr/lib/python2.2/smtplib.py, line 305, in send
raise SMTPServerDisconnected('please run connect() first')
SMTPServerDisconnected: please run connect() first
Any ideas?
Ian.
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[Mailman-Users] Notify member when post is held for moderation?
Folks: Anyone know if there is a way to send a member when their post is held for moderation? I've had a few problems with people subscribing to one of my lists, posting an advertisement, then unsubscribing ... so I enabled New subscribers are initially moderated feature. Unforunately, sometimes people post and expect their message to show up immediately and end up resending it multiple times. I'd really like to be able to send them a message indicating that their post was held for review, and that when it is released, future posts will not be held. I had hoped that the member_moderation_notice option would apply here ... but it only applies when a moderated member's post is rejected. Thanks! david -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman / Sendmail horribly slow performance..suggestions please?!?
Sendmail usually delivers regular mail on an almost instant basis. What I'm getting it a feel that qrunner is not passing the mails from the qfiles directory for sendmail to deliver. The machine in question has around 15k uses on it, and they have almost instant mail delivery through sendmail for regular mail. When a mail comes to the list through sendmail initially, it gets delivered through the mqueue for sendmail and is posted to the qfiles of mm almost instantly. However that is where the holdup is. Qrunner doesn't seem to be dealing with these files well at all. They are sitting in the qfiles directory and are being delivered or sent out at a rate of 1-2 per minute. I don't see an smtp-failure log to check. If there are any features for debugging I can turn on in MM please let me know. Lock logging is the only thing I could find initially. On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, Richard Barrett wrote: On Sunday, August 24, 2003, at 12:51 am, Andrew Falgout wrote: I'm currently running mailman-2.0.13-1 eith sendmail-8.11.6-25.72. Posts are processed very fast, but delivery is more than slow. It takes 1-2 minutes per post to delivery mail. Evaluating what is going on in the queue is a little more than cumbersome. Over the course of 3-4 days mails have been piling up in the qfiles directory to the tune of 4000 mails and waiting. There are mails 3 days old waiting to go out. I'm looking for ways to evaluate what is in the queue, why it's in the queue, and how to tell qrunner to report more information on what it's thinking. Like perhaps the msgid of the email it's trying to process at this time. Are you using the local sendmail instance as the outgoing SMTP server? Regardless, what do the Mailman post, smtp and smtp-failure logs show about mail being handled by the system. How does this tie in with the MTA's mail log. If your outgoing mail is being handled by the local sendmail MTA then I would normally expect Mailman to handoff to the MTA without much delay. If MM is having problems handing off to sendmail then you might find some evidence of this in the smtp-failure log. -- Thank You, Andrew -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+--+-+- +-+-+- - Andrew Wilson Falgout (RHCE) Linux, E Pluribus UNIX! - - Systems Admin II, TIU Office: (601) 266-5603 - - University of Southern Mississippi - - Fax: (601) 266-6788 - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+-+-+ -- Thank You, Andrew -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+--+-+-+-+-+- - Andrew Wilson Falgout (RHCE) Linux, E Pluribus UNIX! - - Systems Admin II, TIU Office: (601) 266-5603- - University of Southern Mississippi - - Fax: (601) 266-6788- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman / Sendmail horribly slow performance..suggestions please?!?
On Monday, August 25, 2003, at 04:59 am, Andrew Falgout wrote: Sendmail usually delivers regular mail on an almost instant basis. What I'm getting it a feel that qrunner is not passing the mails from the qfiles directory for sendmail to deliver. If the qrunner is executing then it is trying to do just that. Can you see a qrunner instance when you run ps? The machine in question has around 15k uses on it, and they have almost instant mail delivery through sendmail for regular mail. When a mail comes to the list through sendmail initially, it gets delivered through the mqueue for sendmail and is posted to the qfiles of mm almost instantly. However that is where the holdup is. Qrunner doesn't seem to be dealing with these files well at all. Or it could be that the MTA is not accepting outgoing mail from MM with the same alacrity with which it delivers it. They are sitting in the qfiles directory and are being delivered or sent out at a rate of 1-2 per minute. I don't see an smtp-failure log to check. If there are any features for debugging I can turn on in MM please let me know. Lock logging is the only thing I could find initially. Although you do not say so, I have the impression that you have spotted nothing unusual in MM's $prefix/logs/error log and SMTP outbound traffic is not failing as nothing is making it into the $prefix/logs/smtp-failure log. Again you did not confimr this but I assume that the local MTA is acting as the outgoing SMTP server for Mailman? If, when the qrunner is started by cron each minute, the new instance finds that an earlier incarnation is still running, the new instance logs it could not get the lock and exits. So logging about being unable to get the qrunner lock is not necessarily that unusual. Do the log entries in the smtp log give any indication of it taking a long time for MM to pass each outgoing messages to the MTA via SMTPDirect. The log entries should show the time taken to get each post out. You can get extra detail logged to the MM $prefix/logs/smtp log about the progress of delivery by MM to the MTA via SMTPDirect by removing some comments on lines in the file $prefix/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py. There is a function near the end called 'deliver' (this is the last function def'ed in the file) and in it there are four lines commented out with ## as the first two characters. Take a copy of this file as backup and delete the leading hash characters. This will not take with any running instance of the qrunner which you may have to kill. This smtp log should now show more sub-transactions of the overall SMTP handoff for any given piece of outgoing mail. On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, Richard Barrett wrote: On Sunday, August 24, 2003, at 12:51 am, Andrew Falgout wrote: I'm currently running mailman-2.0.13-1 eith sendmail-8.11.6-25.72. Posts are processed very fast, but delivery is more than slow. It takes 1-2 minutes per post to delivery mail. Evaluating what is going on in the queue is a little more than cumbersome. Over the course of 3-4 days mails have been piling up in the qfiles directory to the tune of 4000 mails and waiting. There are mails 3 days old waiting to go out. I'm looking for ways to evaluate what is in the queue, why it's in the queue, and how to tell qrunner to report more information on what it's thinking. Like perhaps the msgid of the email it's trying to process at this time. Are you using the local sendmail instance as the outgoing SMTP server? Regardless, what do the Mailman post, smtp and smtp-failure logs show about mail being handled by the system. How does this tie in with the MTA's mail log. If your outgoing mail is being handled by the local sendmail MTA then I would normally expect Mailman to handoff to the MTA without much delay. If MM is having problems handing off to sendmail then you might find some evidence of this in the smtp-failure log. -- Thank You, Andrew -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+--+- +- +-+-+- - Andrew Wilson Falgout (RHCE) Linux, E Pluribus UNIX! - - Systems Admin II, TIU Office: (601) 266-5603 - - University of Southern Mississippi - - Fax: (601) 266-6788 - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+-+-+ -- Thank You, Andrew -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+--+-+- +-+-+- - Andrew Wilson Falgout (RHCE) Linux, E Pluribus UNIX! - - Systems Admin II, TIU Office: (601) 266-5603 - - University of Southern Mississippi - - Fax: (601) 266-6788 - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+-+-+ --- Richard
Re: [Mailman-Users] Customising footers in 2.0.13
On Thursday, August 21, 2003, at 11:50 am, Ian D Crorie wrote: We're running 2.0.13. Is there some way we can add the real subscription address of users in the footers they get? Yes, but with MM 2.1.2, which introduces message personalization. I think you are out of luck with MM 2.0.13 --- Considering the number of wheels that Microsoft has found reason to invent, one never ceases to be baffled by the minuscule number whose shape even vaguely resembles a circle. -- anon --- Richard Barrett http://www.openinfo.co.uk -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman / Sendmail horribly slow performance..suggestions please?!?
On Sunday, August 24, 2003, at 12:51 am, Andrew Falgout wrote: I'm currently running mailman-2.0.13-1 eith sendmail-8.11.6-25.72. Posts are processed very fast, but delivery is more than slow. It takes 1-2 minutes per post to delivery mail. Evaluating what is going on in the queue is a little more than cumbersome. Over the course of 3-4 days mails have been piling up in the qfiles directory to the tune of 4000 mails and waiting. There are mails 3 days old waiting to go out. I'm looking for ways to evaluate what is in the queue, why it's in the queue, and how to tell qrunner to report more information on what it's thinking. Like perhaps the msgid of the email it's trying to process at this time. Are you using the local sendmail instance as the outgoing SMTP server? Regardless, what do the Mailman post, smtp and smtp-failure logs show about mail being handled by the system. How does this tie in with the MTA's mail log. If your outgoing mail is being handled by the local sendmail MTA then I would normally expect Mailman to handoff to the MTA without much delay. If MM is having problems handing off to sendmail then you might find some evidence of this in the smtp-failure log. -- Thank You, Andrew -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+--+-+- +-+-+- - Andrew Wilson Falgout (RHCE) Linux, E Pluribus UNIX! - - Systems Admin II, TIU Office: (601) 266-5603 - - University of Southern Mississippi - - Fax: (601) 266-6788 - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+-+-+ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman / Sendmail horribly slowperformance..suggestions please?!?
The error log is at 0 bytes. I have not overridden the Defaults.py which shows Defaults.py:MTA_ALIASES_STYLE = 'sendmail'. So I assume that means that sendmail is the MTA. Aug 25 08:08:31 2003 (27798) smtp for 2 recips, completed in 1.045 seconds Aug 25 08:08:31 2003 (27798) smtp for 2 recips, completed in 1.149 seconds Aug 25 08:12:47 2003 (27798) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.208 seconds Aug 25 08:12:47 2003 (27798) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.241 seconds Aug 25 08:14:25 2003 (31184) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.701 seconds Aug 25 08:14:25 2003 (31184) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.716 seconds Aug 25 08:17:21 2003 (31184) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.167 seconds Aug 25 08:17:21 2003 (31184) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.179 seconds Aug 25 08:19:34 2003 (31184) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 3.962 seconds Aug 25 08:19:34 2003 (31184) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 4.234 seconds This is just a few of the lines in my /var/log/mailman/smtp file. There are a few bounces from time to time, but not on great frequency. I did send an email to a test list, and attempted to time when I would see my email address in the post log, but after 10 minutes I have not seen it. This really confuses me, because the mail system on this server delivers mail directly to a mailbox in seconds. Why the delay? - Original Message - From: Richard Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andrew Falgout [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman / Sendmail horribly slow performance..suggestions please?!? On Sunday, August 24, 2003, at 12:51 am, Andrew Falgout wrote: I'm currently running mailman-2.0.13-1 eith sendmail-8.11.6-25.72. Posts are processed very fast, but delivery is more than slow. It takes 1-2 minutes per post to delivery mail. Evaluating what is going on in the queue is a little more than cumbersome. Over the course of 3-4 days mails have been piling up in the qfiles directory to the tune of 4000 mails and waiting. There are mails 3 days old waiting to go out. I'm looking for ways to evaluate what is in the queue, why it's in the queue, and how to tell qrunner to report more information on what it's thinking. Like perhaps the msgid of the email it's trying to process at this time. Are you using the local sendmail instance as the outgoing SMTP server? Regardless, what do the Mailman post, smtp and smtp-failure logs show about mail being handled by the system. How does this tie in with the MTA's mail log. If your outgoing mail is being handled by the local sendmail MTA then I would normally expect Mailman to handoff to the MTA without much delay. If MM is having problems handing off to sendmail then you might find some evidence of this in the smtp-failure log. -- Thank You, Andrew -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+--+-+- +-+-+- - Andrew Wilson Falgout (RHCE) Linux, E Pluribus UNIX! - - Systems Admin II, TIU Office: (601) 266-5603 - - University of Southern Mississippi - - Fax: (601) 266-6788 - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+-+-+ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/andrew.falgout%40usm.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman / Sendmail horribly slowperformance..suggestions please?!?
The description of the problem fits right in with the primary DNS resolver not working and the server having to fall back to the secondary for each look up. That might not be your problem, but in anycase, you should run a local-caching Nameserver on your mailserver. Then check to see how long it takes to do dns lookups: host -t mx some.host.com dig -t mx some.host.com The dig command will tell you how long it took to get the dns information. The host command will simply give you the information you requested - which in this case is a listing of the Mailservers for the domain some.host.com You might also want to tweak your sendmail configuration: http://www.trilug.org/~jonc/mailserver/PartIII.html BTW: the many MTA's use the sendmail aliases style, the fact that Mailman is using it to communicate with your MTA does not insure that you are using Sendmail as your MTA. To find out which MTA you are using: telnet localhost 25 Read the header it displays. It should indicate what service is acting as your MTA. As an example, here is what I get: 220 Anncons4.nc.rr.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.8/8.12.8; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:07:09 -0400 As you can see, I'm running Sendmail on this particular server. Good Luck - Jon Carnes On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 09:28, Andrew Falgout wrote: The error log is at 0 bytes. I have not overridden the Defaults.py which shows Defaults.py:MTA_ALIASES_STYLE = 'sendmail'. So I assume that means that sendmail is the MTA. Aug 25 08:08:31 2003 (27798) smtp for 2 recips, completed in 1.045 seconds Aug 25 08:08:31 2003 (27798) smtp for 2 recips, completed in 1.149 seconds Aug 25 08:12:47 2003 (27798) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.208 seconds Aug 25 08:12:47 2003 (27798) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.241 seconds Aug 25 08:14:25 2003 (31184) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.701 seconds Aug 25 08:14:25 2003 (31184) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.716 seconds Aug 25 08:17:21 2003 (31184) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.167 seconds Aug 25 08:17:21 2003 (31184) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.179 seconds Aug 25 08:19:34 2003 (31184) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 3.962 seconds Aug 25 08:19:34 2003 (31184) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 4.234 seconds This is just a few of the lines in my /var/log/mailman/smtp file. There are a few bounces from time to time, but not on great frequency. I did send an email to a test list, and attempted to time when I would see my email address in the post log, but after 10 minutes I have not seen it. This really confuses me, because the mail system on this server delivers mail directly to a mailbox in seconds. Why the delay? - Original Message - From: Richard Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andrew Falgout [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman / Sendmail horribly slow performance..suggestions please?!? On Sunday, August 24, 2003, at 12:51 am, Andrew Falgout wrote: I'm currently running mailman-2.0.13-1 eith sendmail-8.11.6-25.72. Posts are processed very fast, but delivery is more than slow. It takes 1-2 minutes per post to delivery mail. Evaluating what is going on in the queue is a little more than cumbersome. Over the course of 3-4 days mails have been piling up in the qfiles directory to the tune of 4000 mails and waiting. There are mails 3 days old waiting to go out. I'm looking for ways to evaluate what is in the queue, why it's in the queue, and how to tell qrunner to report more information on what it's thinking. Like perhaps the msgid of the email it's trying to process at this time. Are you using the local sendmail instance as the outgoing SMTP server? Regardless, what do the Mailman post, smtp and smtp-failure logs show about mail being handled by the system. How does this tie in with the MTA's mail log. If your outgoing mail is being handled by the local sendmail MTA then I would normally expect Mailman to handoff to the MTA without much delay. If MM is having problems handing off to sendmail then you might find some evidence of this in the smtp-failure log. -- Thank You, Andrew -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+--+-+- +-+-+- - Andrew Wilson Falgout (RHCE) Linux, E Pluribus UNIX! - - Systems Admin II, TIU Office: (601) 266-5603 - - University of Southern Mississippi - - Fax: (601) 266-6788 - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+-+-+ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives:
[Mailman-Users] not getting the confirmation anymore...
For about 4 weeks I'm not getting the confirmation to send emails...why is that?! -- Stefan, a simple Gentoo user. Linux registered user: #272012 [Linux is Friendly. It's just selective about who his friends are.] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman / Sendmail horriblyslowperformance..suggestions please?!?
I've included some of the diagnostics that was requested. As of this moment there are 7423 messages in the qfiles directory for mailman. And it continues to grow. Please let me know if my thinking is flawed on how mails flow through the system. 1. Message to a list hits sendmail initially and goes into the mqueue directory for sendmail for processing. 2. Sendmail delivers the message to the mailman wrapper which places the message in the qfiles directory for qrunner to process. 3. qrunner picks up these messages one by one, and delivers the message to each of the recpts listed for the list. How does qrunner decide which email to process? Is there a way to have it process a certain message in the qfiles directory? Are there any utilities for determining what is in the queue or why it was queued by qrunner. I really do appreciate all the help. Yes.. I am using sendmail as my MTA. Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. 220 ocean.otr.usm.edu ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.6/8.11.6; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:21:56 -0500 (ocean) root $ time host python.org DNS lookups are almost instantaneous. python.org has address 194.109.137.226 host python.org 0.04s user 0.01s system 97% cpu 0.051 total (ocean) root $ dig -t python.org (/var/spool/mailman/qfiles) ;; Warning, ignoring invalid type python.org ; DiG 9.2.1 -t python.org ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 19709 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 13, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 13 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;. IN NS ;; ANSWER SECTION: . 5402IN NS G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 5402IN NS H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 5402IN NS I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 5402IN NS J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 5402IN NS K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 5402IN NS L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 5402IN NS M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 5402IN NS A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 5402IN NS B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 5402IN NS C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 5402IN NS D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 5402IN NS E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 5402IN NS F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 600537 IN A 198.41.0.4 B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 600537 IN A 128.9.0.107 C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 510409 IN A 192.33.4.12 D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 510409 IN A 128.8.10.90 E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 602151 IN A 192.203.230.10 F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 510409 IN A 192.5.5.241 G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 602151 IN A 192.112.36.4 H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 602151 IN A 128.63.2.53 I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 510408 IN A 192.36.148.17 J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 602151 IN A 192.58.128.30 K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 510408 IN A 193.0.14.129 L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 510408 IN A 198.32.64.12 M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 510409 IN A 202.12.27.33 ;; Query time: 3 msec ;; SERVER: 131.95.84.2#53(131.95.84.2) ;; WHEN: Mon Aug 25 09:24:48 2003 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 436 - Original Message - From: Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andrew Falgout [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Richard Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman / Sendmail horribly slowperformance..suggestions please?!? The description of the problem fits right in with the primary DNS resolver not working and the server having to fall back to the secondary for each look up. That might not be your problem, but in anycase, you should run a local-caching Nameserver on your mailserver. Then check to see how long it takes to do dns lookups: host -t mx some.host.com dig -t mx some.host.com The dig command will tell you how long it took to get the dns information. The host command will simply give you the information you requested - which in this case is a listing of the Mailservers for the domain some.host.com You might also want to tweak your sendmail configuration: http://www.trilug.org/~jonc/mailserver/PartIII.html BTW: the many MTA's use the sendmail aliases style, the fact that Mailman is using it to communicate with your MTA does not insure that you are using Sendmail as your MTA. To find out which MTA you are using: telnet localhost 25 Read the header it displays. It should indicate what service is acting as your MTA. As an example, here is what I get: 220 Anncons4.nc.rr.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.8/8.12.8; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:07:09 -0400 As you can see, I'm running Sendmail on this particular server. Good Luck - Jon
[Mailman-Users] Mailman Developers
Hi all, Our company is looking for Mailman developers to help us to setup our Forums project. We are based in Thailand so anyone who knows somebody in the region that can help us is most appreciated. Thanks in advance. John _ John Kromodimedjo ICT Programme Officer Health and Development Networks Chiang Mai, Thailand -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] sending images
I am trying to send out a message through Mailman 2.1.2 (on RedHat 7.1) which contains an embedded image. We use Novell's Groupwise for mail. If I send the message through Mailman it comes back with the embedded image as an attachment. If I send the message straight through GW the message is received intact. If I send the same message to Yahoo the message displays fine so nothing is happening in GW. Does anyone know what might be happening on the receiving end or in Mailman that would cause this to occur, and how to fix it? If it cannot be configured to allow this, does anyone know of any other list server software that would? Thank you -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] wrong email address on Welcome page
I have Mailman running on a FreeBSD box. On the welcome page (http://www.usmstudent.com/mailman/listinfo/) the email address it points users to who have questions or comments is wrong. It includes a www. in the domain. I can not figure out where to change this. I did find a file that I can edit by hand. But, I don't think hacking it is the answer. So, can anyone tell me what the appropriate way change this to take the www. out of the email address would be? TIA, Darren -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Accessing Mailman webpages
Hello, I'm hoping somebody might help and I apologize for cross posting. I have three lists which are run via the Mailman software through my webhost. One of the lists ( http://64.21.80.14/mailman/listinfo/standardbreds_mi-harness.com ) info page. My browser is IE 5.0 with Cookies enabled, although I've had some other security options set for some time. ALL this worked as designed until the recent design change in the Mailman webpages. After that, although I may enter the entry page, I'm unable to log in. The result (as best as I can describe,) is near a 404 page without actually being a 404 error. I am able to access my lists administration on another computer with IE 6.0 Im hoping it's possible to determine what changes were made in the page design which prevent my administrational access with IE 5.0, since updating browsers is not a real option. If I may determine the settings change, I might be able to correct the problem. Thanks in advance for your assitance. Best Don -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman / Sendmail horribly slowperformance..suggestions please?!?
On Monday, August 25, 2003, at 02:28 pm, Andrew Falgout wrote: The error log is at 0 bytes. I have not overridden the Defaults.py which shows Defaults.py:MTA_ALIASES_STYLE = 'sendmail'. So I assume that means that sendmail is the MTA. You will be using SMTP to the local MTA (which you say is Sendmail) if the following MM config variables are set as follows in either mm_cfg.py or the Defaults.py file. The following are th standard MM 2.0.13 default values: DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' SMTPHOST = 'localhost' Also are the following default values still in place: SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 500 MAX_DELIVERY_THREADS = 0 Aug 25 08:08:31 2003 (27798) smtp for 2 recips, completed in 1.045 seconds Aug 25 08:08:31 2003 (27798) smtp for 2 recips, completed in 1.149 seconds Aug 25 08:12:47 2003 (27798) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.208 seconds Aug 25 08:12:47 2003 (27798) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.241 seconds Aug 25 08:14:25 2003 (31184) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.701 seconds Aug 25 08:14:25 2003 (31184) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.716 seconds Aug 25 08:17:21 2003 (31184) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.167 seconds Aug 25 08:17:21 2003 (31184) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.179 seconds Aug 25 08:19:34 2003 (31184) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 3.962 seconds Aug 25 08:19:34 2003 (31184) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 4.234 seconds This is just a few of the lines in my /var/log/mailman/smtp file. There are a few bounces from time to time, but not on great frequency. I did send an email to a test list, and attempted to time when I would see my email address in the post log, but after 10 minutes I have not seen it. This really confuses me, because the mail system on this server delivers mail directly to a mailbox in seconds. Why the delay? I am going to assume that you had not made the edit to $prefix/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py I suggested in one of my response and that these log entries are the regular ones? Bear in mind that the number in brackets in these log entries - (27798) for instance - is the process id of the qurnner handling the message and the same qrunner is handling multiple messages. The smtp log entries are interesting if you have a large backlog of messages in the qfiles directory because: 1. only a few recipients are being delivered for each log entry. Are your mailing list that sparely populated for subscribers? Do these smtp log entries tie in with post entries for lists with few members and /var/log/mail entries for outgoing mail through the MTA? 2. quite long periods - 2, 3, 4 minutes in the sample log entries you give - elapse between log entries. But the log entries are for the same process so it has been continuing to run during these pregnant pauses. But what is it doing? Some thoughts. Mailman's qrunner can get slow if it is: a. archiving and b. the messages for a list are large messages and/or c. the number of messages in the current archive of a list is large. On the other hand, the pregnant pauses could be because MM is encountering long delays when opening SMTP connections to the MTA. What sort of shape are the traffic/lists that MM is handling. If you can catch the qrunner at it then maybe strace will give you some idea of what is doing: waiting on a socket open to the MTA maybe. Another possibility is if by some means a bunch of lists have got orphaned locks over them so that the qrunner is spinning its wheels trying to find a list it can operate on. Does anything indicative of this show up in the $prefix/locks directory. - Original Message - From: Richard Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andrew Falgout [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman / Sendmail horribly slow performance..suggestions please?!? On Sunday, August 24, 2003, at 12:51 am, Andrew Falgout wrote: I'm currently running mailman-2.0.13-1 eith sendmail-8.11.6-25.72. Posts are processed very fast, but delivery is more than slow. It takes 1-2 minutes per post to delivery mail. Evaluating what is going on in the queue is a little more than cumbersome. Over the course of 3-4 days mails have been piling up in the qfiles directory to the tune of 4000 mails and waiting. There are mails 3 days old waiting to go out. I'm looking for ways to evaluate what is in the queue, why it's in the queue, and how to tell qrunner to report more information on what it's thinking. Like perhaps the msgid of the email it's trying to process at this time. Are you using the local sendmail instance as the outgoing SMTP server? Regardless, what do the Mailman post, smtp and smtp-failure logs show about mail being handled by the system. How does this tie in with the MTA's mail log. If your outgoing mail is being handled by the local sendmail MTA then I would normally expect Mailman to handoff to the MTA without much delay. If MM is having
Re: [Mailman-Users] wrong email address on Welcome page
On Monday, August 25, 2003, at 03:45 am, Darren wrote: I have Mailman running on a FreeBSD box. On the welcome page (http://www.usmstudent.com/mailman/listinfo/) the email address it points users to who have questions or comments is wrong. It includes a www. in the domain. I can not figure out where to change this. I did find a file that I can edit by hand. But, I don't think hacking it is the answer. So, can anyone tell me what the appropriate way change this to take the www. out of the email address would be? Check the FAQ Luke, check the FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.029.htp TIA, Darren -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Global blacklist?
Hi guys,
I've been looking for a global blacklist or spam filter. I know how to
add addresses and regexes on a per list basis, but this gets real
tedious if I want to ban something from all the lists I'm running on the
server. Is there a global list?
I found this KNOWN_SPAMMERS variable but it doesn't work for me. Maybe
I'm using it the wrong way. Here's what I've added to Mailman/mm_cfg.py:
KNOWN_SPAMMERS = [('subject', 'test')]
I send an email with subject 'test' to any of the lists and they aren't
blocked. What am I doing wrong?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman / Sendmail horriblyslowperformance..suggestions please?!?
I have not modified the default values in the SMTPDirect module or Defaults.py. If I could get qrunner to tell me anything about what message(s) it is working I could tell you how many recipients were on that list. Each list in the current system should be no more than 2-5 people. We moved over a small subset of mailing lists from the older majordomo server. However, there are some lists with several hundres recipients on it that will be moving in the future when these issues get worked out. Orphaned locks? (ocean) root $ ls -lt (~mailman/locks) total 16 -rw-rw-r--2 mailman mailman55 Aug 25 2003 qrunner.lock -rw-rw-r--2 mailman mailman55 Aug 25 2003 qrunner.lock.ocean.otr.usm.edu.16302 -rw-rw-r--2 mailman mailman62 Aug 25 2003 gifted.studies.lock -rw-rw-r--2 mailman mailman62 Aug 25 2003 gifted.studies.lock.ocean.otr.usm.edu.16302 smtp log Aug 25 10:16:47 2003 (16302) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 1.400 seconds Aug 25 10:16:47 2003 (16302) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 3.799 seconds Aug 25 10:16:49 2003 (16302) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 1.968 seconds Aug 25 10:16:49 2003 (16302) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 1.990 seconds I'm guessing this would mean that there are not any orphaned locks. When I restart qrunner by hand, I kill the proces and remove all the locks from the locks directory. I thought the 3.799 seconds in the smtp log was qrunner telling you how long it took to send the mail through the MTA. - Original Message - From: Richard Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andrew Falgout [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman / Sendmail horribly slowperformance..suggestions please?!? On Monday, August 25, 2003, at 02:28 pm, Andrew Falgout wrote: The error log is at 0 bytes. I have not overridden the Defaults.py which shows Defaults.py:MTA_ALIASES_STYLE = 'sendmail'. So I assume that means that sendmail is the MTA. You will be using SMTP to the local MTA (which you say is Sendmail) if the following MM config variables are set as follows in either mm_cfg.py or the Defaults.py file. The following are th standard MM 2.0.13 default values: DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' SMTPHOST = 'localhost' Also are the following default values still in place: SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 500 MAX_DELIVERY_THREADS = 0 Aug 25 08:08:31 2003 (27798) smtp for 2 recips, completed in 1.045 seconds Aug 25 08:08:31 2003 (27798) smtp for 2 recips, completed in 1.149 seconds Aug 25 08:12:47 2003 (27798) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.208 seconds Aug 25 08:12:47 2003 (27798) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.241 seconds Aug 25 08:14:25 2003 (31184) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.701 seconds Aug 25 08:14:25 2003 (31184) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.716 seconds Aug 25 08:17:21 2003 (31184) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.167 seconds Aug 25 08:17:21 2003 (31184) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.179 seconds Aug 25 08:19:34 2003 (31184) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 3.962 seconds Aug 25 08:19:34 2003 (31184) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 4.234 seconds This is just a few of the lines in my /var/log/mailman/smtp file. There are a few bounces from time to time, but not on great frequency. I did send an email to a test list, and attempted to time when I would see my email address in the post log, but after 10 minutes I have not seen it. This really confuses me, because the mail system on this server delivers mail directly to a mailbox in seconds. Why the delay? I am going to assume that you had not made the edit to $prefix/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py I suggested in one of my response and that these log entries are the regular ones? Bear in mind that the number in brackets in these log entries - (27798) for instance - is the process id of the qurnner handling the message and the same qrunner is handling multiple messages. The smtp log entries are interesting if you have a large backlog of messages in the qfiles directory because: 1. only a few recipients are being delivered for each log entry. Are your mailing list that sparely populated for subscribers? Do these smtp log entries tie in with post entries for lists with few members and /var/log/mail entries for outgoing mail through the MTA? 2. quite long periods - 2, 3, 4 minutes in the sample log entries you give - elapse between log entries. But the log entries are for the same process so it has been continuing to run during these pregnant pauses. But what is it doing? Some thoughts. Mailman's qrunner can get slow if it is: a. archiving and b. the messages for a list are large messages and/or c. the number of messages in the current archive of a list is large. On the other hand, the pregnant pauses could be because MM is encountering long delays when opening SMTP connections to the MTA. What sort of
[Mailman-Users] Setting to receive both individual posts anddigests?
Hi again, Is there a way to set a user to receive the individual posts as well as the digests? As the list admin I'd liek to receive digests so I can make sure they are sent out properly, how many a day and so forth. Right now when I select the digest option for my email address I cease to receive the messages as they are posted. I get around this by using a different email address to receive digests on, but I rather just use the one email address. Less to remember when upgrading. -- Gerard Beekmans http://www.linuxfromscratch.org http://www.beekmansworld.com /* Linux Consultant --- OSDN / DevChannel * * Technical Writer --- CheapBytes*/ /* If Linux doesn't have the solution, you have the wrong problem */ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Global blacklist?
Gerard Beekmans wrote:
Hi guys,
I've been looking for a global blacklist or spam filter. I know how to
add addresses and regexes on a per list basis, but this gets real
tedious if I want to ban something from all the lists I'm running on the
server. Is there a global list?
I found this KNOWN_SPAMMERS variable but it doesn't work for me. Maybe
I'm using it the wrong way. Here's what I've added to Mailman/mm_cfg.py:
KNOWN_SPAMMERS = [('subject', 'test')]
I send an email with subject 'test' to any of the lists and they aren't
blocked. What am I doing wrong?
Block the spam with your mail server, not within Mailman.
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Jim Littlefield Right now I'm having amnesia and deja
vu at the same time. I think I've
forgotten this before. - Steven Wright
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[Mailman-Users] Clearing out admin messages
Our spam filter seems to have sprung a leak, and one of our lists (mailman 2.0.8) now has over 1000 messages in the admin queue. We'd like to just clear it out without using the web interface. I searched for the solution but could not find it. How can we clear that queue en masse? We'll upgrade to the latest mailman when I find some free time. Thanks, Morgan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Clearing out admin messages
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 08:50:14AM -0700, Morgan Fletcher remarked: Our spam filter seems to have sprung a leak, and one of our lists (mailman 2.0.8) now has over 1000 messages in the admin queue. We'd like to just clear it out without using the web interface. I searched for the solution but could not find it. How can we clear that queue en masse? We'll upgrade to the latest mailman when I find some free time. Thanks, Morgan Google for a perl script called 'mladmin'. Worked for us. BTW, this should be added to the Mailman FAQ, where the existing instructions appear to be rather outdated. Have Fun, Raymond -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Configuring Moderators -- help
Just upgraded to 2.1.2 and am trying to get moderators working, thus far without success. Anyone have some pointers to docs, faqs, howtos or just sage words of wisdom ? Thanks in advance. Mike -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] problem with disappearing mail to some lists
hi i seem to be having a problem with 1 or 2 specific lists. i'm using mailman 2.1.2 on FreeBSD 5.1. since last night after a spontaneous reboot, mail to some of my lists (not all) isn't working. i've tried creating a new list, this works fine too. could it be that a file (which doesn't get checked by check_db or check_perms) is corrupt? from my maillog I see: Aug 25 00:09:59 snow postfix/local[40951]: 67AD617023: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], orig_to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local, delay=4, status=sent (|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mylist) I've checked http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp regarding the issue, but don't find anything glaringly obvious. no mailman logs even show mailman receiving the messages. i'm not really sure where else to look. any help appreciated. Regards --Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Global blacklist?
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 09:25, Jim Littlefield wrote: Block the spam with your mail server, not within Mailman. Spam is tagged on my mailserver, not blocked (in case of false positives). When creating a new list, the proper spamassassin headers are already entered in the list's spam protection. But, not all spam is tagged as spam. Sometimes SMTP servers bounce back to the list rather than to the proper bounce address, so I need those blocked too. I can't simply add .*postmaster.* and .*mailer-daemon.* to the spam checker at the SMTP level, then legitimate bounces will get tagged as well. Besides, if something gets blocked by Mailman you get the option, through the admindb program, to discard the message and add that sender to an auto-discard list. But that is a list specific list too; how about when I want to add such a person to the auto discard of all lists on the system? I'm simply asking if there's a global blacklist. There are individual list blacklists, there must be a way to make it global? -- Gerard Beekmans http://www.linuxfromscratch.org http://www.beekmansworld.com /* Linux Consultant --- OSDN / DevChannel * * Technical Writer --- CheapBytes*/ /* If Linux doesn't have the solution, you have the wrong problem */ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Re: But really now. HTDig...
Warren Woodward wrote: So the question is, what else is there? Anything? I'm scared to ask, because I'm fairly certain that htdig is being pushed for lack of anything better. Having just installed htdig I am wondering what your problem with it is? Perhaps the install is incomplete? I have one list where I have not yet modified the archive pages to NOT index the subject heading of the next and last post, and the results for a search are therefore pretty useless. But that was my fault, and when I fix it they results will be much better. If you install htdig on a system with existing lists you will need to make some changes to several files in existing lists before it will work right. I'm just now doing this, so I can't give you the details. The other things is that htdig is very powerful, and as is the case with most things the more powerful it is the more understanding a person has to have to make it do what they want. We have been made lazy by places like Google that allow us to do + big + dog instead of big AND dog, and a lot of folks have no clue what an Boolean operand is. I have not yet looked, but I suspect there is a good little how to that I can link to for my users. By offering them some information on how to harness the real power of htdig I will save myself a lot of hassle! Paul, who is getting fed up with the Eudora bug that trashes headers if a period is at the end of the subject line ... -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Editing text
OK, this is a stupid question. However, I need to know. How do I edit the page that has all of the lists on it? I know I can edit individual pages on specific lists, but need to edit the list page. Tricia Maloney Assistant Director of Alumni Relations Swarthmore College 500 College Avenue Swarthmore, PA 19081 (610) 328-8404 http://www.Swarthmore.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Text Editing
OK, this is a stupid question. However, I need to know. How do I edit the page that has all of the lists on it? I know I can edit individual pages on specific lists, but need to edit the list page. Tricia Maloney Assistant Director of Alumni Relations Swarthmore College 500 College Avenue Swarthmore, PA 19081 (610) 328-8404 http://www.Swarthmore.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailing list administration
Hi, I'm managing a list with mailman version 2.0.1. Recently the list has been bombarded - so much that i can't manage it through the web interface. How do I clean out all the spam-postings from the command line? We're talking about 4000 postings... Thanks in advance. Thomas -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing list administration
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 07:45:09PM +0200, Thomas Møller Andersen remarked: Hi, I'm managing a list with mailman version 2.0.1. Recently the list has been bombarded - so much that i can't manage it through the web interface. How do I clean out all the spam-postings from the command line? We're talking about 4000 postings... Thanks in advance. Thomas /me whispers... mladmin ... Have Fun, Raymond pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Non-member post to members-only list auto-approved?
I had a strange thing happen the other day that is either a bug in Mailman's (v2.1.2) handling of members only lists, or is a bug in the logging of posts. A member of one of my lists used the Email Story link on Yahoo news to mail a news story to the mailing list. This went straight to the list without being held for approval. The From: address was [EMAIL PROTECTED], definitely not a memeber of the list. The only way I knew that it had anything to do with a valid subscriber is because Yahoo was nice enough to put the person's email address in the body of the message: censored ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has sent you a news article. (Email address has not been verified.) Otherwise, there was no sign of a valid subscriber's address either in the message headers or in the mailman logs. The logs only show the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address. I have to assume that the envelope sender was actually my subscriber's address, but that's purely an assumption on my part, since there's no actual evidence of it. IMO, If mailman is going to approve posts based on the envelope sender, then it REALLY needs to both log the envelope sender, and set the on behalf of part of the address to the envelope sender, not the From: header line Michael J. Sheldon http://www.desertraven.com/ Make a fast friend, adopt a greyhound! -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] List Description in verify.txt
I need to have the subscription confirmation (templates/verify.txt) for a list be a little more descriptive as to the list being subscribed. I tried adding %(description)s to the template but it doesn't get replaced with the list description content. Is this possible in 2.1.2? -- Chris Linstruth [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] install compatibility
Hello I'm trying to install Python-2.2.3 and apache2 with mailman 2.1.2 but I'm having trouble running install. Has anyone tried this? I think it should work from the requirements I've seen. Con Wieland UC Irvine -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing list administration
Thanks. I tried, but i'm unable to use the mladmin-script. I'm on an old solaris and it seems like i'm missing perl modules. Can't locate HTML/Entities.pm in @INC (@INC contains: Any alternatives? Thomas On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 07:45:09PM +0200, Thomas Møller Andersen remarked: Hi, I'm managing a list with mailman version 2.0.1. Recently the list has been bombarded - so much that i can't manage it through the web interface. How do I clean out all the spam-postings from the command line? We're talking about 4000 postings... Thanks in advance. Thomas /me whispers... mladmin ... Have Fun, Raymond -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Clearing out admin messages
At 8:50 -0700 2003:08:25, Morgan Fletcher wrote: Our spam filter seems to have sprung a leak, and one of our lists (mailman 2.0.8) now has over 1000 messages in the admin queue. We'd like to just clear it out without using the web interface. I searched for the solution but could not find it. How can we clear that queue en masse? I use the brute force of going to /var/lib/mailman/data/ rm'ing all the heldmsg* files for a list. Then, when you enter the web interface, it will tell you that request is missing but otherwise not complain. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman / Sendmail horriblyslowperformance..suggestions please?!?
for closure of this topic:
Begin forwarded message:
From: Andrew Falgout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon Aug 25, 2003 8:22:05 pm Europe/London
To: Richard Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman / Sendmail horribly
slowperformance..suggestions please?!?
Reply-To: Andrew Falgout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problem solved. It was archiving. That's all I needed was to figure
out
what it was pausing on. I turned off archival and informed my manager
that
the overhead associated with it would be too much for the system to
bear.
It is FLYING through the queued mails now and delivering them now.
Been a lifesaver, and THANKS!!!
- Original Message -
From: Richard Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Andrew Falgout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman / Sendmail horribly
slowperformance..suggestions please?!?
On Monday, August 25, 2003, at 04:22 pm, Andrew Falgout wrote:
I have not modified the default values in the SMTPDirect module or
Defaults.py. If I could get qrunner to tell me anything about what
message(s) it is working I could tell you how many recipients were on
that
list. Each list in the current system should be no more than 2-5
people.
We moved over a small subset of mailing lists from the older
majordomo
server. However, there are some lists with several hundres
recipients
on it
that will be moving in the future when these issues get worked out.
Orphaned locks?
(ocean) root $ ls -lt
(~mailman/locks)
total 16
-rw-rw-r--2 mailman mailman55 Aug 25 2003 qrunner.lock
-rw-rw-r--2 mailman mailman55 Aug 25 2003
qrunner.lock.ocean.otr.usm.edu.16302
-rw-rw-r--2 mailman mailman62 Aug 25 2003
gifted.studies.lock
-rw-rw-r--2 mailman mailman62 Aug 25 2003
gifted.studies.lock.ocean.otr.usm.edu.16302
smtp log
Aug 25 10:16:47 2003 (16302) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 1.400
seconds
Aug 25 10:16:47 2003 (16302) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 3.799
seconds
Aug 25 10:16:49 2003 (16302) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 1.968
seconds
Aug 25 10:16:49 2003 (16302) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 1.990
seconds
I'm guessing this would mean that there are not any orphaned locks.
When I
restart qrunner by hand, I kill the proces and remove all the locks
from the
locks directory.
I thought the 3.799 seconds in the smtp log was qrunner telling you
how long
it took to send the mail through the MTA.
Mailman's qrunner process each message through a pipeline.
Attached is a modified version of the file
$prefix/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py
This logs extra information about the progress of each message through
the pipeline into the smtp log. This may give some insight as to where
the qrunner is spending its time.
The changes in the revised file are as follows:
/Users/richard/development/mailman-htdig/mailman-2.0.13/Mailman/
Handlers
bash-2.05a$ diff -u HandlerAPI.py.orig HandlerAPI.py
--- HandlerAPI.py.orig Mon Aug 25 17:58:17 2003
+++ HandlerAPI.py Mon Aug 25 18:06:01 2003
@@ -73,10 +73,12 @@
def do_pipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline):
+t0x = t1x = t2x = time.time()
while pipeline:
modname = pipeline.pop(0)
mod = __import__('Mailman.Handlers.' + modname)
func = getattr(getattr(getattr(mod, 'Handlers'), modname),
'process')
+t1x = time.time()
try:
pid = os.getpid()
func(mlist, msg, msgdata)
@@ -138,6 +140,10 @@
traceback.print_exc(file=s)
syslog('error', s.getvalue())
break
+t2x = time.time()
+syslog('smtp', 'do_pipeline: list %s, modname %s, startat
%.3f, durn %.3f' %
+ (mlist.internal_name(), modname, (t1x-t0x),
(t2x-t1x)))
+t1x = t2x
return pipeline
The revised files is:
---
-
About the best I can do to help.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Andrew Falgout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman / Sendmail horribly
slowperformance..suggestions please?!?
On Monday, August 25, 2003, at 02:28 pm, Andrew Falgout wrote:
The error log is at 0 bytes. I have not overridden the Defaults.py
which
shows Defaults.py:MTA_ALIASES_STYLE = 'sendmail'. So I assume that
means
that sendmail is the MTA.
You will be using SMTP to the local MTA (which you say is Sendmail)
if
the following MM config variables are set as follows in either
mm_cfg.py or the Defaults.py file. The following are th standard MM
2.0.13 default values:
DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect'
SMTPHOST = 'localhost'
Also are the following default values still in place:
SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 500
MAX_DELIVERY_THREADS = 0
Aug 25 08:08:31 2003 (27798) smtp for 2 recips, completed in 1.045
seconds
Aug 25 08:08:31 2003 (27798) smtp for 2 recips, completed
Re: [Mailman-Users] Configuring Moderators -- help
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 11:19, Michael H Moran wrote: Just upgraded to 2.1.2 and am trying to get moderators working, thus far without success. Anyone have some pointers to docs, faqs, howtos or just sage words of wisdom ? Double checked the configs.. I have moderators listed in the appropriate panel and have add a password for the moderators, but none of them can log in..authentication is being denied by the system Any thoughts on what I have missed ? Mike -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Re: [Mailman-Developers] Held messages for approval
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 18:16, Kory Wheatley wrote: Hi Everyone, I have a question about the removal of held messages, is there a way to automatically remove held messages that have been in a mailing list for a certain number of days ( I have been going in to /home/mailman/data and using the rm command on messages that I know are spam, or a worm virus like SOBIG). The reason I ask is, it creates quite a bit of disk space when moderators have not gone in and either approved or discarded the held messages, so I would like to have something go in and check how long a message has been out there and if it's out there past a certain number of days I would like it removed. Kory, I believe you could benefit greatly from Tokio Kikuchi's excellent auto_discard script. You can find it in the SF patches-tracker under patch id #636412: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=636412group_id=103atid=300103 :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
