[Mailman-Users] link to archives not complete

2004-03-18 Thread dann
I just upgraded from mailman 2.0.13 to 2.1.4 and everything is working
great, except for one minor quark with the links to the archives.  If I
visit the listinfo or admin pages, the link to the archive is not
complete.  For instance, for my lvlug list I see this:

www.mydomain/pipermail

where I should be seeing this:

www.mydomain/pipermail/lvlug

I am baffled on how to fix this.  All the other links seem to work fine,
it seems as if the value MM-List-Name is not being set or passed
correctly.

Any suggestions on correcting this?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Change hostname

2004-03-18 Thread Helmut Schneider
Jon Carnes wrote:
 On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 09:49, Helmut Schneider wrote:
 
 I apologize if the question was asked before.
 
 I have a server running mailman 2.1.2, say mail.domain.com. I got 3
 lists. Now I add an alias for the server in DNS (e.g. lists). 
 How is it possible to transfer the 3 lists to the new alias? If I
 open the page http://lists.domain.com/mailman/listinfo I can see the
 welcome message. If I create a new list here it is listed here to.
 But the old lists do only appear under the old hostname
 (http://mail.domain.com/mailman/listinfo). Same for the footer.
 
 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.029.htp

Oh, sorry, of course I read the FAQ before posting! Perhaps something went wrong. Will 
try again.

Regards, Helmut

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Stop the Confirmation E-Mail

2004-03-18 Thread Thomas Hochstein
Steven Massey schrieb:

 Thanks for the response.  I would tend to agree with you, but this 
 client is particularly insistent on setting it up this way.

Did you counsel him and explain to him, *why* that is a really *very*
bad idea?

 Perhaps 
 people on the list could help me by providing some fodder to argue why 
 there should be a confirmation e-mail. 

Because otherwise anyone can subscribe anyone else (and this *will* be
done, sooner or later, if only to aggravate the people being
subscribed), and your client and/or you will get blamed for that (You
are sending me unsolicited mail! I did not order your
newsmetter/mailing list/whatever11).

 I've tried saying that people 
 could be maliciously signed up for a list they never wanted to be on, 
 but they don't seem to think that is really an issue.

It is. Be sure.

-thh


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Change hostname

2004-03-18 Thread Helmut Schneider
Jon Carnes wrote:

 On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 09:49, Helmut Schneider wrote:
 I apologize if the question was asked before.
 
 I have a server running mailman 2.1.2, say mail.domain.com. I got 3
 lists. Now I add an alias for the server in DNS (e.g. lists). 
 How is it possible to transfer the 3 lists to the new alias? If I
 open the page http://lists.domain.com/mailman/listinfo I can see the
 welcome message. If I create a new list here it is listed here to.
 But the old lists do only appear under the old hostname
 (http://mail.domain.com/mailman/listinfo). Same for the footer.
 
 Thanks, Helmut
 
 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.029.htp

Argh, I always ran /usr/local/lib/mailman/bin/withlist -l -r 
/usr/local/lib/mailman/bin/fix_url.py testlist. Works now...

Thanks, Helmut

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Re: [Mailman-Users] archives missing

2004-03-18 Thread Eduardo Ferreira de Carvalho


   I verified the archives.  E-mails is written in the server, but month
in ahead saw web does not appear the archives of this.  It seems that
after the year ticket, it started these problems.  They are not
corrupted because if thus she was would not write the archives in the
server.  It would be some type of configuration of the Mailman?

 On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 11:26, Eduardo Ferreira de Carvalho wrote:
 Hello list,

   Currently is using the last version of Mailman, but I do not know what
 it occurs that the archives of the list of the month of February/2004 do
 not appear.  I used the command arch and appeared the month of March.
 Mine mailman is configured to appear to file monthly.  It will be that I
 will have that to use this command all month or exists another skill to
 decide this problem?

   I wait and thanks

 Eduardo Ferreira de Carvalho
 
 WebMaster e Suporte Técnico
 Departamento de Informática - CEMIB
 http://www.cemib.unicamp.br

 Check the mbox file for the list and see if there are any mails from
 February to the list.

 The mbox file is located in:
   ~mailman/archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox

 If that file has some February mail (as shown by the Date: field in the
 mail headers of the mail stored in that huge file) then you might have a
 corrupted mbox file - or too large to be processed with your current
 system resources.

 Wishing you well - Jon Carnes




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[Mailman-Users] Multiple messages per page display

2004-03-18 Thread David Balazic
Hi!

Can Mailman render HTML pages that display more than one email message ?
For example an entire thread ?

I am deciding to build a web-forum or a mail list. I prefer a mail list, but
if the only web access is one message per web page, well I don't like that.

Is this possible with Mailman ? Or maybe some other mail-web program ?

TIA, best regards,
David

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman on Suse Standard Server 8.0

2004-03-18 Thread Dirk Allard
Hi, 
 
I tried to get mailman running on Suse Standard Server 8.0. Installing is no 
problem as well as creating a mailinglist and adding users. Sending a mail to 
the mailinglist seems to work to the point just before the mail is spreaded to 
the subscribers. 
 
Mailman version: 2.0.13 using postfix 
 
Some logfile snippets: 
 
messages logfile during incoming mailinglist mail 
 
start- 
Mar 18 14:28:00 staudinger /USR/SBIN/CRON[23736]: (mailman) CMD 
(/usr/bin/python 
 -S /usr/lib/mailman/cron/qrunner) 
Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger master[24396]: about to exec 
/usr/lib/cyrus/bin/lmtpd 
Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger lmtpunix[24396]: executed 
Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger lmtpd[24396]: accepted connection 
Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger lmtpd[24396]: lmtp connection preauth'd as postman 
Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger lmtpd[24396]: duplicate_check: 
1079616889.4059a57990 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] user.mailadmin   0 
Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger lmtpd[24396]: mystore: starting txn 2147483659 
Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger lmtpd[24396]: mystore: committing txn 2147483659 
Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger lmtpd[24396]: duplicate_mark: 
1079616889.4059a57990b 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] user.mailadmin   1079616522 
Mar 18 14:29:00 staudinger /USR/SBIN/CRON[24426]: (mailman) CMD 
(/usr/bin/python -S /usr/lib/mailman/cron/qrunner) 
end-- 
 
mail log file, same period: 
 
-start-- 
Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/smtpd[24384]: connect from 
mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE[134.93.178.130] 
Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/smtpd[24384]: 245821BDE: 
client=mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE[134.93.178.130] 
Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/cleanup[24385]: 245821BDE: 
message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/qmgr[24188]: 245821BDE: 
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1323, nrcpt=1 (queue active) 
Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/smtpd[24384]: disconnect from 
mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE[134.93.178.130] 
Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger spamd[897]: connection from localhost [127.0.0.1] 
at port 40536 
Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger spamd[24391]: processing message 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] for nobody:65534. 
Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger spamd[24391]: clean message (-0.4/5.0) for 
nobody:65534 in 0.1 seconds, 1330 bytes. 
Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/pickup[24187]: 46C681BE1: uid=65534 
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/pipe[24387]: 245821BDE: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=procmail, delay=0, 
status=sent (spamfilter) 
Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/cleanup[24385]: 46C681BE1: 
message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/qmgr[24188]: 46C681BE1: 
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1625, nrcpt=1 (queue active) 
Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/lmtp[24395]: 46C681BE1: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=public/lmtp[public/lmtp], 
delay=0, status=sent (250 2.1.5 Ok) 
---end--- 
 
Is anybody able to help me here? 
 
Thanks in advance 
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mac OS X 10.3.3 breaks Mailman?

2004-03-18 Thread David B. O'Donnell
On Thursday, March 18, 2004 12:17 PM +1100, Richard Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

My list configuration is still present and accounted for, the
configuration web pages are still there and seem to work, but messages to
the lists vanish. No bounce, no (obvious) errors and no output to
subscribers.
Is anyone else using the Apple provided Mailman version on 10.3 server?
Did the update to 10.3.3 stop list deliveries?
I found that the mailman master qrunners had shut down when I applied the 
10.3.3 upgrade. Check your process list to see if they are running and, if 
not, use mailmanctl to start them back up.

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Stop the Confirmation E-Mail

2004-03-18 Thread Nancy S
Jon wrote:


I don't think anyone on Mailman-dev wants to encourage the bad practice
of allowing folks to be subscribed without their approval (except by the
list admin), so don't look for this feature to be changed in MMv3.

This may be slightly off this particular topic, but I run several mailman lists with 
the options:
o) Administrator approval is required for all subscriptions
o) No confirmation is required for subscriptions

These are relatively closed communities of nontechnical people, where the 
administrator has tight connections to the subscribers and there is some offline or 
unstructured confirmation that occurs outside of Mailman itself.

The problem I've been having is that there doesn't seem to be a way for the LIST ADMIN 
to change a subscriber's e-mail address without a confirmation (unless one goes 
through a subscribe/unsubscribe which risks changing user options and the user 
password). For these particular communities we really do not want confirmation 
required -- and if it's not required for the initial subscription, why is it required 
for the address change?

Or am I missing something?

Thanks!

-Nancy
[Mailman user in the sense of list administrator -- I've no control over the 
installation. Mailman version 2.1.1]


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[Mailman-Users] Re: Mac OS X 10.3.3 breaks Mailman?

2004-03-18 Thread Jon Thompson
x-tad-biggerI'm using Apple's included version of Mailman 2.1 to run some small mailing lists, and I'm used to having to turn the lists back on after minor OS updates. This time, however, I can't get the lists turned back on, and the downside of GUIs is that they're often opaque when they fail (this one certainly is).

My list configuration is still present and accounted for, the configuration web pages are still there and seem to work, but messages to the lists vanish. No bounce, no (obvious) errors and no output to subscribers.

Is anyone else using the Apple provided Mailman version on 10.3 server? Did the update to 10.3.3 stop list deliveries?

In a former life I was a Solaris admin, any pointers for some command line stuff I can do to determine where the messages are getting stuck?

Thanks in advance,

Richard Lane
/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger
try this command on your server:

sudo /usr/share/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s restart

I had this problem at the most inopportune time.  It appears that the update shuts down mailman, but does not clean it up, so the master lock still in place.  By performing this, it clears this file so that mailman can operate correctly.  Also note: all of the messages sent to your lists have not been lost, they will flow through when you get this cleared.

Why -s is not the default startup mode is beyond me.
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 1, Issue 2386

2004-03-18 Thread Tatjana Faul
Hello everyboby
I want to know how it is possible with Latex to put an image under the
text.Must I use \subfigure?
And if it's yes how must I do?
thanks
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[Mailman-Users] Modifying web pages

2004-03-18 Thread Atkins, Brian
I'm working on building a fresh system with RH9 and MM 2.1.4 to replace our
existing list server running MM 2.0.13.  I'd like to modify the MM web pages
to have the same look and feel as the rest of our site.  I have already
edited the general, subscribe, and options pages, but would like to edit the
rest of the pages as well.  I haven't found any threads pertaining to this
in the archives.

Thanks,

Brian

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[Mailman-Users] bounce processing not sending mail to owner

2004-03-18 Thread Anne Ramey
Even though I have set my system to notify the list owner upon disable 
and unsubscription, my owner isn't getting any mails, despite many:
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local, delay=0, status=sent 
(|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces list)
messages

The maximum member bounce score before the member's subscription is 
disabled. is set to 1.0

Is there any way to see if mailman has actually disabled or 
unsubscribed due to to bounces?  Why wouldn't it send the email to the 
owner?  Please help.

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[Mailman-Users] A Mailman question

2004-03-18 Thread E . P .
Greetings!

I have recently changed over to a new webhosting company that uses the 
Mailman software for the announcement lists.  As I read the 
documentation, it suggests that one can create customized webpages for 
the following responses:

SubscribedURL
UnsubscribedURL
AlreadyOnURL
NotOnURL
InvalidURL
EmailConfirmURL
I could create generic webpages that acknowledge You are already 
subscribed or whatever it is, but I'd like be able to personalize it 
with the proper code. I don't know how to set up the Java/unix or html 
code to auto-insert the email address that was inputted by the user.

Would it be possible for you to send me a sample webpage that 
auto-inserts the email address of the person that is trying to 
subscribe to my list?  Once I have the proper format, then I can create 
6 different webpages with 6 different pre-set responses.

I'm not very fluent in html, so if you send me the full source code for 
a sample webpage that responds to a Mailman command, that would be 
wonderful.  Once I have a simple, sample web template, then I have 
something I can work with.

my thanks in advance,

ERIC PREDOEHL
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Santa Clara, CA 95055-2430
studio (408) 749-9757
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[Mailman-Users] Problem with Sendmail SMTP-AUTH and Mailman

2004-03-18 Thread Christopher Tyler
I had Mailman working fine with Sendmail up until I enabled SMTP-AUTH in
Sendmail.  The messages get to Mailman but are not delivered to the list
members anymore because Mailman does not authenticate. Disabling
SMTP-AUTH is not an option as we are an ISP and have users that require
email on the road and such, and we do not wish to be blacklisted as an
open relay.

There aren't any messages in the archive that deal with this
specifically, so my question is what EXACTLY do I have to do to get it
to work with SMTP-AUTH.  I have included my sendmail.mc file for
review.  I am running Fedora Core 1 with the latest stable versions of
Sendmail and Mailman.  Mailman is set to deliver to SMTPdirect if that
is any help.

SENDMAIL.MC

divert(-1)dnl
dnl #
dnl # This is the sendmail macro config file for m4. If you make changes
to
dnl # /etc/mail/sendmail.mc, you will need to regenerate the
dnl # /etc/mail/sendmail.cf file by confirming that the sendmail-cf
package is
dnl # installed and then performing a
dnl #
dnl # make -C /etc/mail
dnl #
include(`/usr/share/sendmail-cf/m4/cf.m4')dnl
VERSIONID(`setup for Red Hat Linux')dnl
OSTYPE(`linux')dnl
dnl #
dnl # Uncomment and edit the following line if your outgoing mail needs
to
dnl # be sent out through an external mail server:
dnl #
dnl define(`SMART_HOST',`smtp.your.provider')
dnl #
define(`confDEF_USER_ID',``8:12'')dnl
dnl define(`confAUTO_REBUILD')dnl
define(`confTO_CONNECT', `1m')dnl
define(`confTRY_NULL_MX_LIST',true)dnl
define(`confDONT_PROBE_INTERFACES',true)dnl
define(`PROCMAIL_MAILER_PATH',`/usr/bin/procmail')dnl
define(`ALIAS_FILE', `/etc/aliases')dnl
dnl define(`STATUS_FILE', `/etc/mail/statistics')dnl
define(`UUCP_MAILER_MAX', `200')dnl
define(`confUSERDB_SPEC', `/etc/mail/userdb.db')dnl
define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS',
`authwarnings,novrfy,noexpn,restrictqrun')dnl
dnl #
dnl # The following allows relaying if the user authenticates, and
disallows
dnl # plaintext authentication (PLAIN/LOGIN) on non-TLS links
dnl #
define(`confAUTH_OPTIONS',`A')
TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl
define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS',`DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl
define(`confCACERT_PATH',`/usr/share/ssl/certs')dnl
define(`confCACERT',`/usr/share/ssl/certs/ca-bundle.crt')dnl
define('confSERVER_CERT',`/usr/share/ssl/certs/sendmail.pem')dnl
define(`confSERVER_KEY',`/usr/share/ssl/certs/sendmail.pem')dnl
FEATURE(delay_checks)dnl
dnl # 
dnl # PLAIN is the preferred plaintext authentication method and used by
dnl # Mozilla Mail and Evolution, though Outlook Express and other MUAs
do
dnl # use LOGIN. Other mechanisms should be used if the connection is
not
dnl # guaranteed secure.
dnl #
dnl TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`EXTERNAL DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl
dnl define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `EXTERNAL GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5
LOGIN PLAIN')dnl
dnl #
dnl # Rudimentary information on creating certificates for sendmail TLS:
dnl # make -C /usr/share/ssl/certs usage
dnl #
dnl define(`confCACERT_PATH',`/usr/share/ssl/certs')
dnl define(`confCACERT',`/usr/share/ssl/certs/ca-bundle.crt')
dnl define(`confSERVER_CERT',`/usr/share/ssl/certs/sendmail.pem')
dnl define(`confSERVER_KEY',`/usr/share/ssl/certs/sendmail.pem')
dnl #
dnl # This allows sendmail to use a keyfile that is shared with
OpenLDAP's
dnl # slapd, which requires the file to be readble by group ldap
dnl #
dnl define(`confDONT_BLAME_SENDMAIL',`groupreadablekeyfile')dnl
dnl #
dnl define(`confTO_QUEUEWARN', `4h')dnl
dnl define(`confTO_QUEUERETURN', `5d')dnl
dnl define(`confQUEUE_LA', `12')dnl
dnl define(`confREFUSE_LA', `18')dnl
define(`confTO_IDENT', `0')dnl
dnl FEATURE(delay_checks)dnl
FEATURE(`no_default_msa',`dnl')dnl
FEATURE(`smrsh',`/usr/sbin/smrsh')dnl
FEATURE(`mailertable',`hash -o /etc/mail/mailertable.db')dnl
FEATURE(`virtusertable',`hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable.db')dnl
FEATURE(redirect)dnl
FEATURE(always_add_domain)dnl
FEATURE(use_cw_file)dnl
FEATURE(use_ct_file)dnl
dnl #
dnl # The -t option will retry delivery if e.g. the user runs over his
quota.
dnl #
FEATURE(local_procmail,`',`procmail -t -Y -a $h -d $u')dnl
FEATURE(`access_db',`hash -TTMPF -o /etc/mail/access.db')dnl
FEATURE(`blacklist_recipients')dnl
EXPOSED_USER(`root')dnl
dnl #
dnl # The following causes sendmail to only listen on the IPv4 loopback
address
dnl # 127.0.0.1 and not on any other network devices. Remove the
loopback
dnl # address restriction to accept email from the internet or intranet.
dnl #
dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp, Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA')dnl
dnl #
dnl # The following causes sendmail to additionally listen to port 587
for
dnl # mail from MUAs that authenticate. Roaming users who can't reach
their
dnl # preferred sendmail daemon due to port 25 being blocked or
redirected find
dnl # this useful.
dnl #
DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=submission, Name=MSA, M=Ea')dnl
DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp, Name=MSA, M=Ea')dnl
dnl #
dnl # The following causes sendmail to additionally listen to port 465,
but
dnl # 

[Mailman-Users] urgent: list sends lots of email to list-admin

2004-03-18 Thread Rudy Gevaert
Hi,

Yesterday a list send a lot of mails to the list-admin.  2/3 per
second sometimes.  Now my mail access has been cut of due to that
(what's normal).  What could the problem be?  The installation has run
without trouble for over a year.

I'm using exim and the mailman in Debian Stable

Relevant logs:


2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006ej-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=student (student.UGent.be) 
[127.0.0.1] P=esmtp S=3744 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006el-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=student (student.UGent.be) 
[127.0.0.1] P=esmtp S=3744 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006ej-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost T=remote_smtp 
H=tarzan.ugent.be [157.193.40.45]
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006ej-00 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost T=remote_smtp 
H=tarzan.ugent.be [157.193.40.45]
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006ej-00 Completed
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006el-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost T=remote_smtp 
H=tarzan.ugent.be [157.193.40.45]
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006el-00 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost T=remote_smtp 
H=tarzan.ugent.be [157.193.40.45]
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006el-00 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost T=remote_smtp 
H=tarzan.ugent.be [157.193.40.45]
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006el-00 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost T=remote_smtp 
H=tarzan.ugent.be [157.193.40.45]
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006el-00 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost T=remote_smtp 
H=tarzan.ugent.be [157.193.40.45]
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006el-00 Completed

(above are subscribers of the list)

a bit later (no logs with guk in during 10 minutes):

mail from guk: note: nobody sent to guk!

2004-03-17 17:24:12 1B3dq0-0006vo-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local S=468

sends mail to list admin: 
2004-03-17 17:24:12 1B3dq0-0006vo-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost T=remote_smtp 
H=tarzan.ugent.be [157.193.40.45]
2004-03-17 17:24:12 1B3dq0-0006vo-00 Completed
ok

and guk sends again a lot of mails:

2004-03-17 17:24:49 1B3dqb-0006xH-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local S=632
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqb-0006xJ-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqc-0006xO-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqc-0006xQ-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqc-0006xV-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqc-0006xb-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqc-0006xg-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqc-0006xj-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqc-0006xr-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqb-0006xH-00 = guk [EMAIL PROTECTED] D=list_admin_director 
T=list_admin_transport
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqb-0006xH-00 Completed
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqc-0006xw-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:51 1B3dqc-0006y1-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:51 1B3dqb-0006xJ-00 = guk [EMAIL PROTECTED] D=list_admin_director 
T=list_admin_transport
2004-03-17 17:24:51 1B3dqb-0006xJ-00 Completed
2004-03-17 17:24:51 1B3dqd-0006yA-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:51 1B3dqd-0006yC-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:52 1B3dqc-0006xO-00 = guk [EMAIL PROTECTED] D=list_admin_director 
T=list_admin_transport
2004-03-17 17:24:52 1B3dqc-0006xO-00 Completed
2004-03-17 17:24:52 1B3dqc-0006xV-00 = guk [EMAIL PROTECTED] D=list_admin_director 
T=list_admin_transport
2004-03-17 17:24:52 1B3dqc-0006xV-00 Completed
2004-03-17 17:24:52 1B3dqd-0006yH-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:52 1B3dqc-0006xb-00 = guk [EMAIL PROTECTED] D=list_admin_director 
T=list_admin_transport


and that goes on... and on...

What could be caussing this?

Thanks in advance,

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[Mailman-Users] Email's

2004-03-18 Thread Noel Materna



Is there anyway to have HTML code transfer throughmailman. I 
have setup outlook to use HTML and stuckan HTML ad as it were. It looks 
great in my emailbut doesn't get sent to my list users.Thanks 
Noel
As an example: 


  
  
Yahoo! Groups 
  Sponsor
  

  


  ADVERTISEMENT
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[Mailman-Users] Add ability for admin to change email addresses inside List database

2004-03-18 Thread Jon Carnes
On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 10:19, Nancy S wrote:
 Jon wrote:
 
 
 I don't think anyone on Mailman-dev wants to encourage the bad practice
 of allowing folks to be subscribed without their approval (except by the
 list admin), so don't look for this feature to be changed in MMv3.
 
 This may be slightly off this particular topic, but I run several mailman lists with 
 the options:
 o) Administrator approval is required for all subscriptions
 o) No confirmation is required for subscriptions
 
 These are relatively closed communities of nontechnical people, where the 
 administrator has tight connections to the subscribers and there is some offline 
 or unstructured confirmation that occurs outside of Mailman itself.
 
 The problem I've been having is that there doesn't seem to be a way for the LIST 
 ADMIN to change a subscriber's e-mail address without a confirmation (unless one 
 goes through a subscribe/unsubscribe which risks changing user options and the user 
 password). For these particular communities we really do not want confirmation 
 required -- and if it's not required for the initial subscription, why is it 
 required for the address change?
 

That's a nice feature and a good justification for it.  I'll forward
that along to the MMv3 list and see if folks like it.

It almost trivial to write a command line tool that would change an
email address inside the list database. The harder part will be adding
it to the Admin's web form.

Jon Carnes


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RE: [Mailman-Users] urgent: list sends lots of email to list-admin

2004-03-18 Thread Atkins, Brian
Open relay?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 7:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Mailman-Users] urgent: list sends lots of email to list-admin


Hi,

Yesterday a list send a lot of mails to the list-admin.  2/3 per
second sometimes.  Now my mail access has been cut of due to that
(what's normal).  What could the problem be?  The installation has run
without trouble for over a year.

I'm using exim and the mailman in Debian Stable

Relevant logs:


2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006ej-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=student
(student.UGent.be) [127.0.0.1] P=esmtp S=3744
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006el-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=student
(student.UGent.be) [127.0.0.1] P=esmtp S=3744
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006ej-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
R=smarthost T=remote_smtp H=tarzan.ugent.be [157.193.40.45]
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006ej-00 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost
T=remote_smtp H=tarzan.ugent.be [157.193.40.45]
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006ej-00 Completed
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006el-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost
T=remote_smtp H=tarzan.ugent.be [157.193.40.45]
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006el-00 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost
T=remote_smtp H=tarzan.ugent.be [157.193.40.45]
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006el-00 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
R=smarthost T=remote_smtp H=tarzan.ugent.be [157.193.40.45]
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006el-00 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
R=smarthost T=remote_smtp H=tarzan.ugent.be [157.193.40.45]
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006el-00 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost
T=remote_smtp H=tarzan.ugent.be [157.193.40.45]
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006el-00 Completed

(above are subscribers of the list)

a bit later (no logs with guk in during 10 minutes):

mail from guk: note: nobody sent to guk!

2004-03-17 17:24:12 1B3dq0-0006vo-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=468

sends mail to list admin: 
2004-03-17 17:24:12 1B3dq0-0006vo-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost
T=remote_smtp H=tarzan.ugent.be [157.193.40.45]
2004-03-17 17:24:12 1B3dq0-0006vo-00 Completed
ok

and guk sends again a lot of mails:

2004-03-17 17:24:49 1B3dqb-0006xH-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=632
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqb-0006xJ-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqc-0006xO-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqc-0006xQ-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqc-0006xV-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqc-0006xb-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqc-0006xg-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqc-0006xj-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqc-0006xr-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqb-0006xH-00 = guk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
D=list_admin_director T=list_admin_transport
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqb-0006xH-00 Completed
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqc-0006xw-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:51 1B3dqc-0006y1-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:51 1B3dqb-0006xJ-00 = guk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
D=list_admin_director T=list_admin_transport
2004-03-17 17:24:51 1B3dqb-0006xJ-00 Completed
2004-03-17 17:24:51 1B3dqd-0006yA-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:51 1B3dqd-0006yC-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:52 1B3dqc-0006xO-00 = guk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
D=list_admin_director T=list_admin_transport
2004-03-17 17:24:52 1B3dqc-0006xO-00 Completed
2004-03-17 17:24:52 1B3dqc-0006xV-00 = guk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
D=list_admin_director T=list_admin_transport
2004-03-17 17:24:52 1B3dqc-0006xV-00 Completed
2004-03-17 17:24:52 1B3dqd-0006yH-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:52 1B3dqc-0006xb-00 = guk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
D=list_admin_director T=list_admin_transport


and that goes on... and on...

What could be caussing this?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Email's

2004-03-18 Thread Jamie Penman-Smithson
On Tue, 2004-03-16 at 21:28, Noel Materna wrote:
 Is there anyway to have HTML code transfer through
 mailman. I have setup outlook to use HTML and stuck
 an HTML ad as it were. It looks great in my email
 but doesn't get sent to my list users.

That's by design, HTML mail is *evil* (and created by Satan, AKA MS). If
you don't believe me:

http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil_still.shtml
http://www.usethesource.com/articles/03/04/07/14.shtml

 As an example: 
 
 
snip spam

You really think we needed that spam from Y! Groups?

Get a clue (tm), and do the Right Thing, don't spam your poor innocent
users with evil HTML spam.

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[Mailman-Users] (no subject)

2004-03-18 Thread Roger D Medlin



Please not send any more e-mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am not able to answer any questions or 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Suse Standard Server 8.0

2004-03-18 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi!

On Do, Mär 18, 2004 at 02:46:21 +0100, Dirk Allard wrote:
 I tried to get mailman running on Suse Standard Server 8.0. Installing is no 
 problem as well as creating a mailinglist and adding users. 

Have you checked the alias file for the new list?

 Sending a mail to 
 the mailinglist seems to work to the point just before the mail is spreaded to 
 the subscribers.
  
 Mailman version: 2.0.13 using postfix 

Hmm, this version is very old. I'd use 2.1.4 if possible, if you do a 
new installation setting up a newer mailman version by hand isnt heavy.

 Some logfile snippets: 

[...]

 -start-- 
 Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/smtpd[24384]: connect from 
 mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE[134.93.178.130] 
 Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/smtpd[24384]: 245821BDE: 
 client=mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE[134.93.178.130] 
 Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/cleanup[24385]: 245821BDE: 
 message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/qmgr[24188]: 245821BDE: 
 from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1323, nrcpt=1 (queue active) 
 Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/smtpd[24384]: disconnect from 
 mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE[134.93.178.130] 
 Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger spamd[897]: connection from localhost [127.0.0.1] 
 at port 40536 
 Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger spamd[24391]: processing message 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] for nobody:65534. 
 Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger spamd[24391]: clean message (-0.4/5.0) for 
 nobody:65534 in 0.1 seconds, 1330 bytes. 
 Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/pickup[24187]: 46C681BE1: uid=65534 
 from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/pipe[24387]: 245821BDE: 
 to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=procmail, delay=0, 
 status=sent (spamfilter) 
 Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/cleanup[24385]: 46C681BE1: 
 message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/qmgr[24188]: 46C681BE1: 
 from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1625, nrcpt=1 (queue active) 
 Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/lmtp[24395]: 46C681BE1: 
 to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=public/lmtp[public/lmtp], 
 delay=0, status=sent (250 2.1.5 Ok) 
 ---end--- 

There is no mailman command executed... Does postfix know about the 
mailman alias file? Are the listaliases in your systemwide alias file? 

Regards,
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[Mailman-Users] Postfix-style virtual domains broken in mailman 2.1.1

2004-03-18 Thread Boris Folgmann
Hi!

I've configured mailman-2.1.1-5 (RH9 RPM) according to
README.POSTFIX.

I added to mm_cfg.py:

DEFAULT_URL_HOST   = 'ssl.dom.ain'
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.dom.ain'
# We use SSL
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/'

add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)

# settings for postfix
MTA = 'Postfix'
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['lists.dom.main']

# Are archives public or private by default?
DEFAULT_ARCHIVE_PRIVATE= 1# 0=public, 1=private


But Mailman is NOT adding the domain entry at the start
of the virtual-mailman file, which is required for
Postfix-style virtual domains.

Missing is

lists.dom.ain IGNORE

at the top, virtual-mailman only contains:

[...]
# LOOP ADDRESSES START
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman-loop
# LOOP ADDRESSES END

# STANZA START: mailman
# CREATED: Thu Mar 18 20:25:02 2004
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  mailman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailman-admin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  mailman-bounces
[...]


This means that mm is configuring a sendmail-style
domain. That's not what we want. Any ideas?


cu,
boris



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix-style virtual domains broken in mailman 2.1.1

2004-03-18 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
Boris Folgmann wrote:

Hi!

I've configured mailman-2.1.1-5 (RH9 RPM) according to
README.POSTFIX.
...
But Mailman is NOT adding the domain entry at the start
of the virtual-mailman file, which is required for
Postfix-style virtual domains.
Missing is

lists.dom.ain			  IGNORE
You are supposed to do it yourself. This from README.POSTFIX:

First, you need to set up the Postfix virtual alias domains as
described in the Postfix documentation (see Postfix's virtual(5)
manpage).  Note that it's your responsibility to include the
virtual-alias.domain anything line as described manpage; Mailman
will not include this line in virtual-mailman.  I highly encourage
you to make sure your virtual alias domains are working properly
before integrating with Mailman.
Note the second sentence.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Postfix-style virtual domains broken in mailman 2.1.1

2004-03-18 Thread Boris Folgmann
Hi Shaun!

Shaun T. Erickson schrieb:

 You are supposed to do it yourself. This from README.POSTFIX:

It's not in my version. I assume you refer to the latest release.

  manpage).  Note that it's your responsibility to include the
  virtual-alias.domain anything line as described manpage; Mailman
  will not include this line in virtual-mailman.  I highly encourage

Ok, I've already tested this, but that doesn't help much. Everytime I add a
new mailing list, genaliases is called and virtual-mailman is overwritten.
And since mailman has all information why doesn't it add the line? Should
be one line of code in Python, I assume. I would patch it myself, but I
don't know the mm code and never used Python before.

cu,
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[Mailman-Users] bounce message with non-members

2004-03-18 Thread Anne Ramey
What does this message mean in the bounce log?
bounce message with non-members of ...
I have a separate list for a customer with aol addresses because of 
their very strict rules, but it appears that the bounces for that list 
are going to another lists and I'm getting these non-member messages.  
I've checked the alias for bounces and it's correct:

AOLlist-bounces:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces AOLlist

???any ideas?

Anne

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Postfix-style virtual domains broken in mailman 2.1.1

2004-03-18 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
Boris Folgmann wrote:

Ok, I've already tested this, but that doesn't help much. Everytime I add a
new mailing list, genaliases is called and virtual-mailman is overwritten.
And since mailman has all information why doesn't it add the line? Should
be one line of code in Python, I assume. I would patch it myself, but I
don't know the mm code and never used Python before.
You don't add that line to virtual-mailman. You add it to your already 
pre-existing virtual_alias_maps map. Mailman is assuming that you have 
already created the domain and that it works with postfix before mailman 
comes along and simply adds some additional aliases for that domain in a 
secondary map file.

So, your main.cf should have an entry similar to this:

virtual_alias_maps = hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/mysql/valiases,
 hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman
You put the some.dom.ain   foo line in valiases, along with any other 
aliases for that domain (if you have any), and mailman puts the rest 
into virtual-mailman.

	-ste

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Postfix-style virtual domains broken in mailman 2.1.1

2004-03-18 Thread Boris Folgmann
Shaun T. Erickson schrieb:

 You put the some.dom.ain   foo line in valiases, along with any other 
 aliases for that domain (if you have any), and mailman puts the rest 
 into virtual-mailman.

Tnx, it works. I thought that the line has to be in the same file!

cu,
boris



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Postfix-style virtual domains broken in mailman 2.1.1

2004-03-18 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
Boris Folgmann wrote:

Tnx, it works. I thought that the line has to be in the same file!
Glad to be of service. Perhaps this restores some of the karma I lost by 
asking questions the past two days that were FAQ items. :)

	-ste

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