Re: [Mailman-Users] Using a Sendmail-style alias file to determine list recipients?

[Jim Tittsler]

On Jun 11, 2004, at 11:27, David Zeibin wrote:
Or can I alter the list of recipients from a custom-built script, for 
example.
Check the scripts in Mailman's 'bin' directory.  'sync_members' could 
be what you are looking for.  (Or if not, perhaps some combination of 
add_ and remove_members.)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribing subscribers to topics

[Jim Tittsler]

On Jun 11, 2004, at 07:33, Christopher Adams wrote:
Is there a way, other than using the subscriber user page to subsribe 
subscribers to specific topics?. I have a list of about 1000 
subscribers that I would like to break out into 5 topics. I don't want 
to rely on the subscribers to have to do this. So, any ideas on how to 
do this in batch via one of the provided MM utilities or other 
methods?
You can do this sort of thing with bin/withlist, taking advantage of 
the documentation that is embedded in Mailman/MemberAdaptor.py.

Create a file called addtopic.py:
from Mailman.Errors import NotAMemberError
from Mailman import mm_cfg
import sys
def addtopic(m, addr, topic):
try:
if topic not in [x[0] for x in m.topics]:
print topic, "is not a valid topic for list"
sys.exit(2)
topic_list = m.getMemberTopics(addr)
# add the topic for this member if not already subscribed
if topic not in topic_list:
m.setMemberTopics(addr, topic_list + [topic])
# set subscriber to not receive non-topical posts
m.setMemberOption(addr, mm_cfg.ReceiveNonmatchingTopics, 
mm_cfg.No)
m.Save()
except NotAMemberError:
print 'No address matched:', addr

Then to have a user on "mylist" watch the "pickles" topic:
$ bin/withlist -l -r addtopic mylist [EMAIL PROTECTED] pickles
bin/withlist gives you the full power of Python to play with, so you 
could replace 'topic'  with a variable number of arguments (so you 
could subscribe the user to multiple topics at once), or replace their 
topics instead of appending to them, or loop through a file of users to 
set them all in one go (instead of doing the looping at the shell 
level), or whatever...


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[Mailman-Users] Using a Sendmail-style alias file to determine list recipients?

[David Zeibin]

Hello fellow Mailman users,

I'm running Mac OS X Server 10.3 with the default Mailman installation.
Everything is installed and running fine (as per OSX's nice GUI), but I was
wondering if it's possible to have Mailman read list recipients from
Sendmail-style alias files in a user-definable location. Or can I alter the
list of recipients from a custom-built script, for example. My problem right
now is that I cannot find the alias files that contain the list recipients.

I have found the aliases file in "/var/mailman/data/" but I just see my
mailing lists being sent to the mailman script at
"|/usr/share/mailman/mail/mailman post listnamehere"

After scanning through the FAQs and through the code for any 'post'-related
scripts I could find, I'm none the wiser as to where the recipients are
listed. (I don't know Python as well as I should.)

[The long story is that this organization wants a custom membership database
(accessible only to administrators) that I will be designing. The web
interface for the database will allow administrators to un/subscribe various
users from various mailing lists (which I basically want to just dump into
aptly named files - using PHP, for example - that Mailman will read and then
send to). So, if I can alter Mailman's lists from outside of Mailman's web
interface, I'm golden. Is this even possible?]

Any directions to online resources or any help you might offer is much
appreciated. Thank you very much in advance.

All the best,

::

David "Skip" Zeibin
http://www.gateway.ualberta.ca/


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Re: [Mailman-Users] one dead list (all others fine)

[Jeff Barger]

On Jun 10, 2004, at 7:54 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
Already did that. The web interface will load correctly if I go to
http://www.dom.ain/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/blah but halfway through any
admin task it dumps me out to https://www.dom/ain/mailman/admin/blah
(which does NOT work even though those URLs worked before and are
configured in mm_cfg.py and Defaults.py). I noticed that some .pyo and
.pyc files matched the string "cgi-bin" so I moved those to /tmp/ and
still things don't work.
Can't think of why it might have changed, but have you checked to make 
sure the ScriptAlias directive in your apache conf is set correctly?

I do expect the problem (at least this one) is in your mm_cfg.py file. 
The DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN (in mm_cfg.py) should be something like 
'http://%s/mailman/' or 'http://dom.ain/mailman/'. I'm assuming that 
you don't have mailman installed within your apache cgi-bin - somehow I 
don't think that would be a good idea...

If changes had originally been made to Defaults.py instead of mm_cfg.py 
then those changes were likely overwritten when you upgraded.

You might replace the mm_cfg.py file (back it up first, of course) in 
the Mailman directory with a blank one and stop/start via mailmanctl. 
If it works then you know the problem is in your mm_cfg.py file. If it 
is, start a fresh one and being moving the configuration over one line 
at a time until you find the problem. If you want to send me your 
mm_cfg.py file (via private mail) I'll look over it and see if I can 
see any obvious problems in it for you.

BTW, did you ever find your log files?
-Jeff
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Re: [Mailman-Users] how to delete all administrative requests

[Brad Knowles]

At 5:47 PM +0200 2004-06-10, Brad Knowles wrote:
Otherwise, there are some patches referenced in the archives which
 will set the default action to be "discard" on the "Tend to pending
 moderator requests" page, so that you can deal with all pending
 requests with a single click.
	Of course, you may also want to see FAQ entry 
.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] one dead list (all others fine)

[Peter Saint-Andre]

On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 07:47:49PM -0400, David Relson wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:31:57 -0500
> Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> 
> > Thanks to help via Jabber from some uber-admin in Spain, I determined
> > that I needed to upgrade to 2.1.5. Unfortunately, now my web interface
> > is broken so I can't disable the emergency moderation feature (thus
> > preventing me from testing the broken list). So step one for me now is
> > to get the web interfaces working. I've tried to tweak mm_cfg.py but
> > it still seems to be reading a different configuration (e.g., it is
> > trying to launch */cgi-bin/* even though both mm_cfg and Deafults.py
> > exclude that in the URLs).
> > 
> > /me goes to RTFM some more
> > 
> > Peter
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> When I upgraded from 2.1.14 to 2.1.15 my web interface also broke -- and
> displayed a python error and list of method calls.  If recollection
> serves, there was a complaint about incorrect permissions.  For me, the
> fix was to run mailman's "check_perms -f" command.  Perhaps this will
> help.

Already did that. The web interface will load correctly if I go to
http://www.dom.ain/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/blah but halfway through any 
admin task it dumps me out to https://www.dom/ain/mailman/admin/blah
(which does NOT work even though those URLs worked before and are
configured in mm_cfg.py and Defaults.py). I noticed that some .pyo and
.pyc files matched the string "cgi-bin" so I moved those to /tmp/ and
still things don't work.

Sigh.

Peter


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Re: [Mailman-Users] one dead list (all others fine)

[David Relson]

On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:31:57 -0500
Peter Saint-Andre wrote:

> Thanks to help via Jabber from some uber-admin in Spain, I determined
> that I needed to upgrade to 2.1.5. Unfortunately, now my web interface
> is broken so I can't disable the emergency moderation feature (thus
> preventing me from testing the broken list). So step one for me now is
> to get the web interfaces working. I've tried to tweak mm_cfg.py but
> it still seems to be reading a different configuration (e.g., it is
> trying to launch */cgi-bin/* even though both mm_cfg and Deafults.py
> exclude that in the URLs).
> 
> /me goes to RTFM some more
> 
> Peter

Hi Peter,

When I upgraded from 2.1.14 to 2.1.15 my web interface also broke -- and
displayed a python error and list of method calls.  If recollection
serves, there was a complaint about incorrect permissions.  For me, the
fix was to run mailman's "check_perms -f" command.  Perhaps this will
help.

Regards,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] one dead list (all others fine)

[Peter Saint-Andre]

Thanks to help via Jabber from some uber-admin in Spain, I determined
that I needed to upgrade to 2.1.5. Unfortunately, now my web interface
is broken so I can't disable the emergency moderation feature (thus
preventing me from testing the broken list). So step one for me now is
to get the web interfaces working. I've tried to tweak mm_cfg.py but it
still seems to be reading a different configuration (e.g., it is trying
to launch */cgi-bin/* even though both mm_cfg and Deafults.py exclude
that in the URLs).

/me goes to RTFM some more

Peter

On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 06:30:23PM -0500, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> Last week, one of the mailing lists for which I'm an admin stopped
> sending out messages (I was gone, so I didn't notice until today). All
> the other lists on this same server are functioning properly. The list
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has fairly high volume but so do other lists on the 
> server. We are running Mailman 2.1.3 (upgraded in February, no troubles 
> since then, well, other than some posts not being archived -- we'll 
> leave that for another message) on Debian testing with Postfix. The 
> perms for this list seem fine (same as other lists on the machine). I 
> have enabled emergency moderation and posts to the list are now held in 
> the admin queue, but if I approve a message it does not get distributed 
> to the list. Neither is mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] delivered to the 
> list admins. The last timestamp on the mbox file for this list is
> 2004-06-02T17:17 (no mail sent since then). 
> 
> I'm puzzled. Any suggestions would be most appreciated.
> 
> BTW, before sending this mail I did the following:
> 
> 0. Ran the check_perms script.
> 1. Verified that cron is running.
> 2. Checked aliases and ran newaliases.
> 3. Verified that postfix doesn't use smrsh.
> 4. Checked interface (other lists working fine).
> 5. Checked that qrunner is working fine.
> 6. Checked for locks (none on the offending list).
> 7. Checked logs but don't see any egregious errors.
> 8. Cleared out the qfiles.
> 9. Checked SMTPHOST (other lists working fine).
> 
> Since this list is the main list for administrators of Jabber servers 
> (the IM equivalent of mailman-users, if you will), I'm eager to get it 
> running again.
> 
> Many thanks.
> 
> Peter
> 
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman docs and use

[Rick Stone]

Greetings

I'm a total newbie to Mailman. It appears to be the mailing list of choice by my web 
host. So here I am. 

I've been digging through what documentation I can find, but seem to be coming up dry 
in finding anything that lays out in very simple terms what to do. For example, I see 
that I can edit a form where users go to "sign up" for my mailing list. Fair enough. 
But I'm unclear on exactly how they will get to this form. I am assuming a URL of some 
sort off my site will get them there? How do I determine the URL?

Additionally, I'm not seeing anything that advises me on how I will be sending 
messages to my list. I'm wanting it to work as follows:

Users sign up for the list.
Periodically, I plan on sending announcement messages via the list that will end up in 
the users' in-boxes as E-Mail messages. Typically these would be announcements about 
site changes that the subscribers may be interested in.

Any insights or pointers to some good docs will be appreciated! 

Rick :)
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Re: [Mailman-Users] After upgrade to 2.1.1 info field not working

[R. Steven Rainwater]

If it helps to see an example, here is a list info page from both
versions of one our lists. This one has only one anchor tag, so it's
easy to see the problem:

The old 2.0.5 version (works):
  http://nimon.ncc.com/mailman/listinfo/dprglist

The new 2.1.1 version (busted):
 http://mail.ncc.com/mailman/listinfo/dprglist

-Steve

On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 17:35, R. Steven Rainwater wrote:
> I'm in the process of moving a number of mailing lists from a server
> running Mailman 2.0.5 to 2.1.1 and have run into a minor problem. Any
> HTML entered in the list info field such as anchor tags does not display
> correctly on 2.1.1. Instead of showing up as HTML, the pointy brackets
> are escaped as < and > and visible as raw HTML markup on the web
> page. In otherwords, where we used to see an clickable link on the 2.0.5
> list info page, on 2.1.1, we see the raw HTML:  href="blah.com">link
> 
> I've looked in the FAQ and searched Google but didn't find any fix
> (though I did run across other folks experiencing the problem). Any
> ideas?
> 
> -Steve
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[Mailman-Users] After upgrade to 2.1.1 info field not working

[R. Steven Rainwater]

I'm in the process of moving a number of mailing lists from a server
running Mailman 2.0.5 to 2.1.1 and have run into a minor problem. Any
HTML entered in the list info field such as anchor tags does not display
correctly on 2.1.1. Instead of showing up as HTML, the pointy brackets
are escaped as < and > and visible as raw HTML markup on the web
page. In otherwords, where we used to see an clickable link on the 2.0.5
list info page, on 2.1.1, we see the raw HTML: link

I've looked in the FAQ and searched Google but didn't find any fix
(though I did run across other folks experiencing the problem). Any
ideas?

-Steve


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[Mailman-Users] subscribing subscribers to topics

[Christopher Adams]

Is there a way, other than using the subscriber user page to subsribe 
subscribers to specific topics?. I have a list of about 1000 subscribers 
that I would like to break out into 5 topics. I don't want to rely on 
the subscribers to have to do this. So, any ideas on how to do this in 
batch via one of the provided MM utilities or other methods?

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[Mailman-Users] Altering "confirm subscription request" pages

[zzizzle . com]

Anyone know how to alter the html of the "confirm subscription request" 
and the "subscription request confirmed" pages?  Please explain in 
simple, non-programmer terms.  I am good at html and flash, but not 
much else :)  If you know of a way to have the user's clicking his 
confirmation link automatically confirm them, and then send them to a 
URL of your own choice, that would be ideal.  I don't like the text the 
system provides.  It's unnecessarily confusing.
Thanks!
Jonathan
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[Mailman-Users] Just one list not archiving

[Peter Jaros]

A single list at my site is failing to archive its messages.  The
messages are sent out, but they never get to the archives.  The
other lists archive just fine.
I've also found lots of these in my error log:
  Jun 10 14:32:40 2004 (16971) No such list "index.php":
  Jun 10 14:40:31 2004 (17050) No such list "images":
Not sure if its related.
Any sort of pointer or aid is REALLY appreciated.  I've been
struggling with this for a while now and I have absolutely no clue
what the problem is.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] one dead list (all others fine)

[Jeff Barger]

On Jun 10, 2004, at 12:53 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
My logs for digest, locks, post, qrunner, smtp, and smtp-failure are
empty. Presumably there is some configuration option that specifies
which logs are enabled, eh?
There's a configuration variable (LOG_DIR) for the log location that 
may have been changed. It should be in either mm_cfg.py or Defaults.py. 
The 'normal' value is "os.path.join(VAR_PREFIX, 'logs')". It should 
tell you where the logs are at.

-Jeff
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Re: [Mailman-Users] FW: Unexpected Mailman error

[Brad Knowles]

At 2:44 PM -0500 2004-06-10, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
 Will 2.1.5 solve the mystery of my list that won't send out messages
 (when every other list on the server works fine)? :-)
	Well, 2.1.5 is an improvement, but I fear it probably won't solve 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] FW: Unexpected Mailman error

[Peter Saint-Andre]

On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 08:03:25PM +0200, Brad Knowles wrote:
> At 12:55 PM -0500 2004-06-10, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> 
> > Upgrade to 2.1.3 -- it has nice content filtering options.
> 
>   Make that 2.1.5.  There are some major improvements included, 
> especially with regards to spam processing and bulk handling of admin 
> requests.

Will 2.1.5 solve the mystery of my list that won't send out messages
(when every other list on the server works fine)? :-)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] FW: Unexpected Mailman error

[Brad Knowles]

At 12:55 PM -0500 2004-06-10, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
 Upgrade to 2.1.3 -- it has nice content filtering options.
	Make that 2.1.5.  There are some major improvements included, 
especially with regards to spam processing and bulk handling of admin 
requests.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] FW: Unexpected Mailman error

[Brad Knowles]

At 10:48 AM -0700 2004-06-10, Sandra Hansen wrote:
 Somehow messages have been distributed
 to our 800+ subscribers containing an attachment with the Bagle virus. I
 am running MailMan 2.0.11. We ARE seeking an administrator with Unix
 experience to upgrade our MailMan system. Meanwhile, I'm struggling with
 the problem. I CANNOT find any place in MailMan to block all
 attachments.
	See 
 
and 
.

My
 ISP is recommending an upgrade from SendMail 8.11.x to SendMail 8.12
 which appears to incorporate MIMEDefang.
	So far as I know, MIMEDefang is not incorporated by default with 
sendmail 8.12.  You can choose to incorporate MIMEDefang with 
sendmail if you like (or most any other MTA, if you prefer something 
other than sendmail), but this is not done by default.

	It might be simplest to upgrade to Mailman 2.1.x, which provides 
some MIME handling features which could be used to strip most types 
of attachments.

 Meanwhile, I have received the following MailMan error message. Is it
 related to whatever is allowing postings to go out without moderation?
 How do I implement a fix? I have exchanged xxx in the following message
 for the actual strings, having list and domain names--
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: (me)] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 7:27 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Unexpected Mailman error
 An unexpected Mailman error has occurred in
 MailCommandHandler.ParseMailCommands().  Here is the traceback:
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/home/xxx/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py",
 line 223, in ParseMailCommands
 self.__dispatch[cmd](args, line, msg)
   File "/usr/home/xxx/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py",
 line 665, in ProcessHelpCmd
 {'listname': self.real_name,
   File "/usr/home/xxx/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 503, in
 maketext
 text = template % SafeDict(dict)
 ValueError: incomplete format key
I'm not sure what this error message means.
	However, until you get some sort of method of protecting your 
subscribers against malicious attachments being sent via the mailing 
list, I would urge you to *not* allow any messages to go through 
un-moderated.

	Trust me, if you allow messages to go out un-moderated, once one 
user gets infected with a virus/worm like Bagle, your problem could 
explode by many orders of magnitude.  You do *not* want your problem 
to become 800+ users mailing out copies of Bagle to all of the other 
800+ subscribers, and each time a person gets re-infected, they 
re-mail out the same virus to all the other 800+ subscribers.

Talk about a serious melt-down.  Yowch!
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Re: [Mailman-Users] FW: Unexpected Mailman error

[Peter Saint-Andre]

Upgrade to 2.1.3 -- it has nice content filtering options.

Peter

On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 10:48:57AM -0700, Sandra Hansen wrote:
> Since Monday, I have been having problems with one of the mailing lists
> I administer. All of the lists are moderated. Another person and I share
> moderator duties for this list. Somehow messages have been distributed
> to our 800+ subscribers containing an attachment with the Bagle virus. I
> am running MailMan 2.0.11. We ARE seeking an administrator with Unix
> experience to upgrade our MailMan system. Meanwhile, I'm struggling with
> the problem. I CANNOT find any place in MailMan to block all
> attachments. Reading documentation, there appeared to be a patch to MM
> through 2.0.8 that was a MIME handler. Was that enabled in 2.0.11? My
> ISP is recommending an upgrade from SendMail 8.11.x to SendMail 8.12
> which appears to incorporate MIMEDefang. However, Sendmail is not
> installed where they say I should be able to find the README.txt file,
> so I am awaiting further info from the ISP.
> 
> Meanwhile, I have received the following MailMan error message. Is it
> related to whatever is allowing postings to go out without moderation?
> How do I implement a fix? I have exchanged xxx in the following message
> for the actual strings, having list and domain names--
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: (me)] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 7:27 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Unexpected Mailman error
> 
> 
> An unexpected Mailman error has occurred in
> MailCommandHandler.ParseMailCommands().  Here is the traceback:
> 
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/home/xxx/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py",
> line 223, in ParseMailCommands
> self.__dispatch[cmd](args, line, msg)
>   File "/usr/home/xxx/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py",
> line 665, in ProcessHelpCmd
> {'listname': self.real_name,
>   File "/usr/home/xxx/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 503, in
> maketext
> text = template % SafeDict(dict)
> ValueError: incomplete format key
> 
> Thanks, Sandy Hansen
> Director of Communications
> AAUW of California (there--you know what organization--for better or
> worse!)
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[Mailman-Users] FW: Unexpected Mailman error

[Sandra Hansen]

Since Monday, I have been having problems with one of the mailing lists
I administer. All of the lists are moderated. Another person and I share
moderator duties for this list. Somehow messages have been distributed
to our 800+ subscribers containing an attachment with the Bagle virus. I
am running MailMan 2.0.11. We ARE seeking an administrator with Unix
experience to upgrade our MailMan system. Meanwhile, I'm struggling with
the problem. I CANNOT find any place in MailMan to block all
attachments. Reading documentation, there appeared to be a patch to MM
through 2.0.8 that was a MIME handler. Was that enabled in 2.0.11? My
ISP is recommending an upgrade from SendMail 8.11.x to SendMail 8.12
which appears to incorporate MIMEDefang. However, Sendmail is not
installed where they say I should be able to find the README.txt file,
so I am awaiting further info from the ISP.

Meanwhile, I have received the following MailMan error message. Is it
related to whatever is allowing postings to go out without moderation?
How do I implement a fix? I have exchanged xxx in the following message
for the actual strings, having list and domain names--

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: (me)] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 7:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Unexpected Mailman error


An unexpected Mailman error has occurred in
MailCommandHandler.ParseMailCommands().  Here is the traceback:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/home/xxx/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py",
line 223, in ParseMailCommands
self.__dispatch[cmd](args, line, msg)
  File "/usr/home/xxx/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py",
line 665, in ProcessHelpCmd
{'listname': self.real_name,
  File "/usr/home/xxx/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 503, in
maketext
text = template % SafeDict(dict)
ValueError: incomplete format key

Thanks, Sandy Hansen
Director of Communications
AAUW of California (there--you know what organization--for better or
worse!)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] how to delete all administrative requests

[Brad Knowles]

At 1:17 PM +0200 2004-06-09, Gian-Carlo Baldarelli - Glomanet ISP wrote:
 my list has been spammed so I got thousands emails pending has
 administrative requests
Are these the result of sender filters, content filters, or spam filters?
 How can I delete all requests ?
 Can I stop administrarive requests (posted by a non menmber)
	Caveat: everything I say here is relative to a Mailman 2.1.5 
implementation.

	If the administrative requests are coming in as a result of 
sender filters, you can go to the "Privacy Options/Sender Filters" 
page and set the default action to be "discard" for moderated members 
(member_moderated_action), the generic default action if nothing else 
matches (generic_nonmember_action), and you can choose whether or not 
the admin gets all copies of discarded messages.

	If they are coming in as a result of spam filters, then you can 
go to the "Privacy Options/Spam Filters" page, and set the action for 
header_filter_rules to be "discard".

	If they are a result of content filtering, go to the "Content 
Filter" page, and set the filter_action to be "discard".

	On the General Options page, you can set admin_immed_notify to be 
"No", so that you don't get spammed with an admin notice every time a 
message comes in that is captured by the above rules.

	Otherwise, there are some patches referenced in the archives 
which will set the default action to be "discard" on the "Tend to 
pending moderator requests" page, so that you can deal with all 
pending requests with a single click.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML E-mails

[Brad Knowles]

At 9:07 AM -0600 2004-06-10, Chronos Admin wrote:
 Thanks for responding. It still does not work correctly. Mailman is doing
 something funky to the html email. The following code is from an email
 received from Mailman, this email did not display any html at all (I'll only
 include the portion that I think relevant):
	You're posting the message in a MIME/HTML encoded fashion, and 
since Mailman can't figure out how to perform the necessary surgery 
to decode the MIME/HTML in the proper fashion so that it can apply 
the footer correctly, it is wrapping the entire message in another 
MIME bodypart and then adding another MIME bodypart for the footer.

See .
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation - Admin interface question

[Brad Knowles]

At 11:30 AM -0700 2004-06-09, Poythress, Lynn wrote:
 I'm in Step 4 (Final System Setup) of the installation doc.  I've
 created the site-wide mailing list.  I've browsed the sitelist.cfg file
 and decided for the time being just to accept the defaults.  The next
 step is to subscribe myself to the site list - exactly how do I do that?
 It says to use the admin interface - but how do I get to it?  If someone
 can either point me to some doc. that explains this, or explain it to
 me, I'd be most grateful!
	I don't think you subscribe yourself to the site list.  IIRC, 
that's only used for managing addresses which are bouncing.  When you 
want to create a list, you go to the URL you specified in your 
mm_cfg.py, and you should be able to follow the prompts from there 
(i.e., click on the link to go to the admin page, click on the link 
to create a new list, type in your password, etc...).

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman wrappen+exim 4.22

[Brad Knowles]

At 3:24 PM +0400 2004-06-08, vlad f halilow wrote:
 hello. i have installed mailman 2.0.11-1woody8 from debian. MM working
 under exim 4.22, and working correctly except one thing.
	Hmm.  Have you seen the pages linked from 
?

	My understanding is that the documentation at exim.org assumes 
you're using Mailman 2.1.x with Exim 4.x, or Mailman 2.0.x with Exim 
3.x.  I don't know if they've got anything for people using an older 
version of Mailman with the recent version of Exim.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] one dead list (all others fine)

[Jeff Barger]

On Jun 9, 2004, at 7:30 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
Last week, one of the mailing lists for which I'm an admin stopped
sending out messages (I was gone, so I didn't notice until today). All
the other lists on this same server are functioning properly. The list
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has fairly high volume but so do other lists on the
server. We are running Mailman 2.1.3 (upgraded in February, no troubles
since then, well, other than some posts not being archived -- we'll
leave that for another message) on Debian testing with Postfix. The
perms for this list seem fine (same as other lists on the machine). I
have enabled emergency moderation and posts to the list are now held in
the admin queue, but if I approve a message it does not get distributed
to the list. Neither is mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] delivered to 
the
list admins. The last timestamp on the mbox file for this list is
2004-06-02T17:17 (no mail sent since then).

I'm puzzled. Any suggestions would be most appreciated.
Have you check through the mailman logs? You should see the message 
being held (and released) in the 'vette' log and then you should see it 
go out in the 'smtp' log. If you don't see the message in the 'smtp' 
log, check 'smtp-failures'. If you DO see it in the 'smtp' log then 
check your postfix log. You should be able to follow the message 
through the smtp-id of the message.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation - Admin interface question

[Tim Faircloth]

At 02:30 PM 6/9/2004, you wrote:
Hello,
I'm trying to install Mailman 2.1.4 on an HP-UX 11.00 machine.  I think
I've done everything correctly, but not being that familiar with list
servers or web interfaces in general, I've gotten to the point where I'm
stumped.  Maybe someone can help.
I'm in Step 4 (Final System Setup) of the installation doc.  I've
created the site-wide mailing list.  I've browsed the sitelist.cfg file
and decided for the time being just to accept the defaults.  The next
step is to subscribe myself to the site list - exactly how do I do that?
It says to use the admin interface - but how do I get to it?  If someone
can either point me to some doc. that explains this, or explain it to
me, I'd be most grateful!
Let me know if you need more info.  They are probably basic questions,
but I'd appreciate any help I can get.
visit the admin web page (change "yoursite" in the url to the domain name 
of your machine):

http://yourdomain/mailman/admin/mailman
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Re: [Mailman-Users] one dead list (all others fine)

[Peter Saint-Andre]

Finally, mail to jadmin-owner gets distributed but mail to 
jadmin-admin does not.

P

On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 07:39:23AM -0500, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> Also, running 'bin/check_db jadmin' results in no complaints.
> 
> Peter
> 
> On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 06:30:23PM -0500, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> > Last week, one of the mailing lists for which I'm an admin stopped
> > sending out messages (I was gone, so I didn't notice until today). All
> > the other lists on this same server are functioning properly. The list
> > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has fairly high volume but so do other lists on the 
> > server. We are running Mailman 2.1.3 (upgraded in February, no troubles 
> > since then, well, other than some posts not being archived -- we'll 
> > leave that for another message) on Debian testing with Postfix. The 
> > perms for this list seem fine (same as other lists on the machine). I 
> > have enabled emergency moderation and posts to the list are now held in 
> > the admin queue, but if I approve a message it does not get distributed 
> > to the list. Neither is mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] delivered to the 
> > list admins. The last timestamp on the mbox file for this list is
> > 2004-06-02T17:17 (no mail sent since then). 
> > 
> > I'm puzzled. Any suggestions would be most appreciated.
> > 
> > BTW, before sending this mail I did the following:
> > 
> > 0. Ran the check_perms script.
> > 1. Verified that cron is running.
> > 2. Checked aliases and ran newaliases.
> > 3. Verified that postfix doesn't use smrsh.
> > 4. Checked interface (other lists working fine).
> > 5. Checked that qrunner is working fine.
> > 6. Checked for locks (none on the offending list).
> > 7. Checked logs but don't see any egregious errors.
> > 8. Cleared out the qfiles.
> > 9. Checked SMTPHOST (other lists working fine).
> > 
> > Since this list is the main list for administrators of Jabber servers 
> > (the IM equivalent of mailman-users, if you will), I'm eager to get it 
> > running again.
> > 
> > Many thanks.
> > 
> > Peter
> > 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: how-to make announce-like mail list: several write, all other read only

[Jeff Barger]

(BOn Jun 10, 2004, at 7:36 AM, Dmitry V. Sukhodoev wrote:
(B
(B> Brad Knowles $B'a'Z'c'Q'](B($B'Q(B):
(B>>>  i have successfully installed Mailman 2.1.5 and this works funny.  
(B>>> now i
(B>>>  need make mailing list with news/announces, where will can post only
(B>>>  selected people and all other only read this list.
(B>>>  i have found only one possible way to do this - to make all users
(B>>> moderated, and process all their messages by moderator, before it  
(B>>> posted
(B>>>  to lists.
(B>> 	That's basically the method recommended by  
(B>> > req=show&file=faq03.011.htp>.
(B>
(B> thanks for link, i will use it now. there have some interesting info:  
(B> "A
(B> more secure alternative is for your approved posters to add an Approved
(B> header to their postings as a header, or as the first line of the  
(B> post)."
(B> i have been try add "Approved: " as first line in  
(B> message.
(B> its cuted off by Mailman, but message still moves to list admins for
(B> approving. whats wrong?
(B
(BI wouldn't recommend trying to use the Approved:  method in the  
(Bbody like that, only as part of the headers. If the mail client decides  
(Bto encode a Approved: line in the body and then you let the message  
(Bthrough you might expose the list password to the list membership  
(Bunintentionally.
(B
(B
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Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML E-mails

[Chronos Admin]

> If you turn off content filtering, then Mailman will not scrub
> any mail messages that come through to the list.  Assuming that the
> incoming message does not fall victim to the anti-spam settings, it
> will be accepted and sent on to the recipients, without being changed
> or modified (although it might be held for moderation).

Thanks for responding. It still does not work correctly. Mailman is doing
something funky to the html email. The following code is from an email
received from Mailman, this email did not display any html at all (I'll only
include the portion that I think relevant):

-
Mime-version: 1.0
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Chronos Announcements] Another Test
X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
Precedence: list
List-Id: announce.lists.chronosnet.com
List-Unsubscribe: ,

List-Post: 
List-Help: 
List-Subscribe: ,

Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===2036615803=="
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status:   

--===2036615803==
Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="alternative_boundary"

--alternative_boundary
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit

This plain text message appears since your e-mail client does not support
HTML.

--alternative_boundary
Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable


 

---

I sent the same email to myself without going through Mailman. The email
displayed correctly.

---
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="alternative_boundary"
Status:   

--alternative_boundary
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit

This plain text message appears since your e-mail client does not support
HTML.

--alternative_boundary
Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable


 



Any suggestions? 

-Adam


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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman not send mail

[Troy Richard]

I'm wondering if my problem is vpopmail.  Does anyone have experience
using mailman with vpopmail?

Thans
Troy

> Does anyone know how to configure the aliases for qmail?
>
>> At 8:23 PM -0500 2004-06-09, Troy Richard wrote:
>>
>>>  One other thing.  I have check the logs both for qmail and mailman and
>>> I
>>>  don't see anything out of the ordinary.  The other thing is none of my
>>>  aliases seem to be working.  Is there anything special I need to do
>>> with
>>>  qmail.  I have ran the alias script in the README.QMAIL file and they
>>>  don't seem to be working.
>>
>>  It seems to me that this last part is the most important problem
>> you need to solve.  However, beyond the information in the
>> README.QMAIL, and the qmail-related information in the FAQ, I am not
>> able to offer you any further assistance.
>>
>>  Perhaps there are other people on the list who are familiar with
>> qmail, and who may be able to help.
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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[Mailman-Users] mailman not send mail

[Troy Richard]

Hey guys,

I have install mailman and everything looks to be working fine except when
I try to post to a mailing list.  I can see the email come into my qmail
mail server and just set in the email accounts mail directory.  I can
subscribe/unsubscribe and get those emails just fine.  It is like when the
list emails come in mailman doesn't know what to do with them.  I think I
have all my aliases set up correctly (posted below).  I've looked through
the archives and have seen several others with this problem, but no
solution posted.  Help please.

Here is what my aliases are setup as:

.qmail-* = the file
and after the : is the command that is in the file.

.qmail-xterra:|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post Xterra
.qmail-xterra-admin:|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin Xterra
.qmail-xterra-bounces:|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces Xterra
.qmail-xterra-confirm:|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm Xterra
.qmail-xterra-join:|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join Xterra
.qmail-xterra-leave:|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave Xterra
.qmail-xterra-owner:|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner Xterra
.qmail-xterra-request:|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request Xterra
.qmail-xterra-subscribe:|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe
Xterra
.qmail-xterra-unsubscribe:|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman
unsubscribe Xterra


Thanks for any help

Troy

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[Mailman-Users] Installation - Admin interface question

[Poythress, Lynn]

Hello,

I'm trying to install Mailman 2.1.4 on an HP-UX 11.00 machine.  I think
I've done everything correctly, but not being that familiar with list
servers or web interfaces in general, I've gotten to the point where I'm
stumped.  Maybe someone can help.

I'm in Step 4 (Final System Setup) of the installation doc.  I've
created the site-wide mailing list.  I've browsed the sitelist.cfg file
and decided for the time being just to accept the defaults.  The next
step is to subscribe myself to the site list - exactly how do I do that?
It says to use the admin interface - but how do I get to it?  If someone
can either point me to some doc. that explains this, or explain it to
me, I'd be most grateful!

Let me know if you need more info.  They are probably basic questions,
but I'd appreciate any help I can get.

Thanks,
Lynn Poythress
CSU, Sacramento
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[Mailman-Users] how to delete all administrative requests

[Gian-Carlo Baldarelli - Glomanet ISP]

Help

my list has been spammed so I got thousands emails pending has
administrative requests

How can I delete all requests ?

Can I stop administrarive requests (posted by a non menmber)


Thanks


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[Mailman-Users] mailman wrappen+exim 4.22

[vlad f halilow]

hello. i have installed mailman 2.0.11-1woody8 from debian. MM working under exim 
4.22, and working correctly except one thing.

i got a message from wrapper with error code 6, and message in syslog listed below


Mailman mail-wrapper: Illegal command: admin


this message appears, when coming mail to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'.

exim debug show, that wrapper run with following arguments:

14:58:36 10644 direct command after expansion:
14:58:36 10644   argv[0] = /var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper
14:58:36 10644   argv[1] = admin
14:58:36 10644   argv[2] = news

so, this something like "wrapper admin news". this configuration i got from internet, 
and do not sure in it cleaness. so, what i need to seng via arguments to wrapper, when 
mail to listname-admin received? may be i dont need to route mail to admins via 
mailman router?

configuration:

-
MAILMAN_HOME=/var/lib/mailman
# wrapper script for mailman
MAILMAN_WRAP=MAILMAN_HOME/mail/wrapper
# user and group for mailman
MAILMAN_USER=list
MAILMAN_GROUP=daemon


mailman_router:
driver = accept
require_files =  MAILMAN_HOME/lists/$local_part/config.db
local_part_suffix_optional
local_part_suffix = -bounces : -bounces+* : -confirm+* : -join : -leave : -owner : 
-request: -admin
transport = mailman_transport


mailman_transport:
driver = pipe
command = MAILMAN_WRAP '${if def:local_part_suffix \
{${sg{$local_part_suffix}{-(\\w+)(\\+.*)?}{\$1}}} {post}}' $local_part
current_directory = MAILMAN_HOME
home_directory = MAILMAN_HOME
user = MAILMAN_USER
group = MAILMAN_GROUP




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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman not send mail

[Troy Richard]

Does anyone know how to configure the aliases for qmail?

> At 8:23 PM -0500 2004-06-09, Troy Richard wrote:
>
>>  One other thing.  I have check the logs both for qmail and mailman and
>> I
>>  don't see anything out of the ordinary.  The other thing is none of my
>>  aliases seem to be working.  Is there anything special I need to do
>> with
>>  qmail.  I have ran the alias script in the README.QMAIL file and they
>>  don't seem to be working.
>
>   It seems to me that this last part is the most important problem
> you need to solve.  However, beyond the information in the
> README.QMAIL, and the qmail-related information in the FAQ, I am not
> able to offer you any further assistance.
>
>   Perhaps there are other people on the list who are familiar with
> qmail, and who may be able to help.
>
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Administrator E-mail

[Oliver Brian \(BTAS\)]

I have followed the guide below.  It was helpful.  When I post a
non-member message to the list that requires moderation I get the
following errors.  Could this be the reason why the admin is not getting
a notification e-mail?

Mail.log - Jun 10 09:05:35 mailman Mailman mail-wrapper: Illegal
command: mailowner
syslog - Jun 10 09:05:35 mailman Mailman mail-wrapper: Illegal command:
mailowner
mail.warn - Jun 10 09:05:35 mailman Mailman mail-wrapper: Illegal
command: mailowner
mail.info - Jun 10 09:05:35 mailman Mailman mail-wrapper: Illegal
command: mailowner
mail.err - Jun 10 09:05:35 mailman Mailman mail-wrapper: Illegal
command: mailowner

This is my alias entry for the list.  I am running Mailman 2.1

## moims-nav mailing list
moims-nav:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post moims-nav"
moims-nav-admin:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin moims-nav"
moims-nav-bounces:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces
moims-nav"
moims-nav-confirm:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm
moims-nav"
moims-nav-join: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join moims-nav"
moims-nav-leave:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave moims-nav"
moims-nav-owner:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner moims-nav"
moims-nav-request:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request
moims-nav"
moims-nav-subscribe:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe
moims-nav"
moims-nav-unsubscribe:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe
moims-nav"

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-Original Message-
From: Brad Knowles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 7:20 PM
To: Oliver Brian (BTAS)
Cc: Brad Knowles; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Administrator E-mail

At 5:53 PM -0400 2004-06-09, Oliver Brian \(BTAS\) wrote:

>  Thanks.  I checked and I have that enabled on all of my lists.  Could
>  there be in issue internal to mailman (propery files, etc.) that I
>  should look at?

Well, if the feature is enabled, the next thing I'd look at is 
the Mailman logs of outgoing messages as compared to the MTA logs, as 
well as the cron jobs.  You've got a slightly different issue, but 
the troubleshooting guidelines at 
 
would be a good place to start.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] one dead list (all others fine)

[Peter Saint-Andre]

Also, running 'bin/check_db jadmin' results in no complaints.

Peter

On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 06:30:23PM -0500, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> Last week, one of the mailing lists for which I'm an admin stopped
> sending out messages (I was gone, so I didn't notice until today). All
> the other lists on this same server are functioning properly. The list
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has fairly high volume but so do other lists on the 
> server. We are running Mailman 2.1.3 (upgraded in February, no troubles 
> since then, well, other than some posts not being archived -- we'll 
> leave that for another message) on Debian testing with Postfix. The 
> perms for this list seem fine (same as other lists on the machine). I 
> have enabled emergency moderation and posts to the list are now held in 
> the admin queue, but if I approve a message it does not get distributed 
> to the list. Neither is mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] delivered to the 
> list admins. The last timestamp on the mbox file for this list is
> 2004-06-02T17:17 (no mail sent since then). 
> 
> I'm puzzled. Any suggestions would be most appreciated.
> 
> BTW, before sending this mail I did the following:
> 
> 0. Ran the check_perms script.
> 1. Verified that cron is running.
> 2. Checked aliases and ran newaliases.
> 3. Verified that postfix doesn't use smrsh.
> 4. Checked interface (other lists working fine).
> 5. Checked that qrunner is working fine.
> 6. Checked for locks (none on the offending list).
> 7. Checked logs but don't see any egregious errors.
> 8. Cleared out the qfiles.
> 9. Checked SMTPHOST (other lists working fine).
> 
> Since this list is the main list for administrators of Jabber servers 
> (the IM equivalent of mailman-users, if you will), I'm eager to get it 
> running again.
> 
> Many thanks.
> 
> Peter
> 

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[Mailman-Users] Re: how-to make announce-like mail list: several write, all other read only

[Dmitry V. Sukhodoev]

Brad Knowles писал(а): 

 i have successfully installed Mailman 2.1.5 and this works funny. now i
 need make mailing list with news/announces, where will can post only
 selected people and all other only read this list.
 i have found only one possible way to do this - to make all users
moderated, and process all their messages by moderator, before it posted
 to lists.
	That's basically the method recommended by 
.
thanks for link, i will use it now. there have some interesting info: "A
more secure alternative is for your approved posters to add an Approved
header to their postings as a header, or as the first line of the post)." 

i have been try add "Approved: " as first line in message.
its cuted off by Mailman, but message still moves to list admins for
approving. whats wrong? 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] how-to make announce-like mail list: several write, all other read only

[Brad Knowles]

At 2:32 PM +0600 2004-06-10, Dmitry V. Sukhodoev wrote:
 i have successfully installed Mailman 2.1.5 and this works funny. now i
 need make mailing list with news/announces, where will can post only
 selected people and all other only read this list.
 i have found only one possible way to do this - to make all users
 moderated, and process all their messages by moderator, before it posted
 to lists.
	That's basically the method recommended by 
.

 but i want to selected members can write to list without any
 confirmations and of course need to be secure, cause "From:" address
 is light to lie.
 what is right way to do this?
	To solve the whitelist issue, just put the sender addresses you 
want to allow through on the "List of non-member addresses whose 
postings should be  automatically accepted." (a.k.a., 
accept_these_nonmembers).  You will find this field under "Sender 
Filters..." section under the "Privacy Options..." category.

	However, Mailman doesn't provide any security beyond checking the 
"From:" headers and envelope sender.  If you want to add 
cryptographic authentication to messages, that would take additional 
code.  If you can create such code, I'm sure that Barry Warwsaw would 
be more than happy to accept any contributions you should be willing 
to make.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML E-mails

[Brad Knowles]

At 9:15 PM -0600 2004-06-09, Chronos Admin wrote:
 I've setup Mailman and have a few lists running. The one list is an
 announcement only list. I need to deliver fully formatted HTML emails.
 However, either Mailman or something I'm doing messes up the email.
 I searched the Mailman archives and found conflicting comments on whether
 Mailman support HTML emails.
 In the "Content" settings I have "No" selected for filtering messages. So
 what's the official word on HTML emails? Thanks in advance.
	If you turn off content filtering, then Mailman will not scrub 
any mail messages that come through to the list.  Assuming that the 
incoming message does not fall victim to the anti-spam settings, it 
will be accepted and sent on to the recipients, without being changed 
or modified (although it might be held for moderation).

	There may be problems with correct archiving of HTML messages, or 
with digests created from HTML messages, but these are separate 
issues.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] -1 moderator request(s) waiting

[Jim Tittsler]

On Jun 10, 2004, at 00:06, Kit Stube wrote:
I just installed mailman and built a bunch of lists.  The owners of 
the lists are now daily recieving a message saying "-1  
moderator request(s) waiting".
I think each list is expected to have a request.pck file, which always 
contains at least one entry (which isn't really a request, but a tag 
indicating the version number of the request database).

When they click on the link and go to the page to do the moderator 
stuff the page does not have any moderator requests.   We are all very 
confused.  Any idea how to make this stop?
I can think of a number of ways to create the request.pck file for 
lists that don't have one... including just copying an "empty" 
(containing only the version tag) one from another list (or changing 
cron/checkdbs to create one by closing the database after checking the 
number pending and finding it to be -1).  Or do *anything* that really 
does create a pending admin request.  :-)

Or the brute force approach:
$ bin/withlist -l mylistwithoutrequests
>>> print m.NumRequestsPending()
-1
>>> m.Save()
>>> {ctrl-D}
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Re: [Mailman-Users] -1 moderator request(s) waiting

[Sarah Ewen]

I had the same thing here with over 200 lists we run as newsgroup
gateways in my office.

I found that if you visit the admindb page, then follow through to
the view all details page, the problem for that list resolves and 
the messages stop.

As there are actually no messages there to approve, you don't need to
do all this in a web browser, if you have a lot of lists affected and
you know there are no msgs really waiting, you can just use curl to
visit them all and resolve the problem.

I used a bash script like the one below:

 #!/bin/bash

 for i in `cat listnames.txt` ; do
   echo $i;
   curl -F adminpw=sitepass http://yourdomain.com/mailman/admindb/$i > /tmp/admindb-$i
   curl -F adminpw=sitepass http://yourdomain.com/mailman/admindb/$i?details=all > 
/tmp/admindb2-$i
 done

You can check over the files in /tmp if you want to be sure it all went ok.

I hope that helps. It's a bit off the cuff as I've only just run it, but
that should fix the problem.

As for what causes it - who knows! Mailman authors?

Sarah.
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> I just installed mailman and built a bunch of lists.  The owners of the 
> lists are now daily recieving a message saying "-1  moderator 
> request(s) waiting".
> 
> When they click on the link and go to the page to do the moderator stuff 
> the page does not have any moderator requests.   We are all very 
> confused.  Any idea how to make this stop?
 

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[Mailman-Users] how-to make announce-like mail list: several write, all other read only

[Dmitry V. Sukhodoev]

i have successfully installed Mailman 2.1.5 and this works funny. now i need 
make mailing list with news/announces, where will can post only selected 
people and all other only read this list. 

i have found only one possible way to do this - to make all users moderated, 
and process all their messages by moderator, before it posted to lists. 

but i want to selected members can write to list without any confirmations 
and of course need to be secure, cause "From:" address is light to lie. 

what is right way to do this? 

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