[Mailman-Users] 7th Circle of Burning, Hot, Fire Filled HELL!

2004-12-09 Thread Evan Miller
Someone in this world please please tell me how to get Postfix, 
mailman, and virtual alias maps to all work together PLEASE.  This is 
not a Postfix issue.  Postfix works fine.  This is an integrating of 
Mailman issue.

Here are my files.  I'm going to sleep now.  I've been at this for 12 
hours not counting the six days I spent getting Postfix to work.  If 
any of you have any mercy in your souls you will help me figure out why 
/etc/postfix/virtual will not release its iron-clad grip on my incoming 
mail and allow ~mailman/data/aliases to do its job and route my 
postings to their lists.  The lists themselves are fine.

I have integrated all of the advice that you all have given me today 
much of which is not in the instructions and I have followed the ReadMe 
as well.

http://www.beathustler.com/main.cf
http://www.beathustler.com/virtual
http://www.beathustler.com/mm_cfg.py
http://www.beathustler.com/aliases
http://www.beathustler.com/virtual-mailman
I don't know what made me think this would be easy but I'm in too deep 
to turn back now.

Please help.
Thank you very much.
-Evan
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[Mailman-Users] everyone getting unsubscribes when doing command line

2004-12-09 Thread Anne Ramey
When I subscribe or unsubscribe from the command line, both the owner 
and the users get notified, even though the config of the list says not 
too.  And everything works fine if I do it through the web interface. 
Why would this happen?

Anne
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RE: [Mailman-Users] 7th Circle of Burning, Hot, Fire Filled HELL!

2004-12-09 Thread Rabinowitz, Ari (Exchange)
Evan,

There are a few things you need to understand about postfix and its
interaction with Mailman.  The first is that postfix will not allow a
script to be run from the virtual file, only from the aliases file which
is looked at by the local delivery agent.  Another thing to remember
is that plain ID's on the right hand side of the virtual map get
@$myorigin appended.  In your case $myorigin=$mydomain which is
beathustler.com, so the addresses in the virtual-mailman file get mapped
back to beathustler.com, which is why they are going to the catch-all
address.  You need to add @localhost the way you did for your virtual
file.  Then you need to add the lists to your aliases file, mapping them
to the mailman scripts using the pipe (|) syntax you were wondering
about in an earlier message.

I hope this helps get you on the right track.  Don't forget to postmap
the virtual files and postalias the aliases file.

Ari Rabinowitz

  

 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evan Miller
 Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 4:15 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Mailman-Users] 7th Circle of Burning, Hot, Fire Filled HELL!
 
 Someone in this world please please tell me how to get Postfix, 
 mailman, and virtual alias maps to all work together PLEASE.  This is 
 not a Postfix issue.  Postfix works fine.  This is an integrating of 
 Mailman issue.
 
 Here are my files.  I'm going to sleep now.  I've been at this for 12 
 hours not counting the six days I spent getting Postfix to work.  If 
 any of you have any mercy in your souls you will help me 
 figure out why 
 /etc/postfix/virtual will not release its iron-clad grip on 
 my incoming 
 mail and allow ~mailman/data/aliases to do its job and route my 
 postings to their lists.  The lists themselves are fine.
 
 I have integrated all of the advice that you all have given me today 
 much of which is not in the instructions and I have followed 
 the ReadMe 
 as well.
 
 http://www.beathustler.com/main.cf
 
 http://www.beathustler.com/virtual
 
 http://www.beathustler.com/mm_cfg.py
 
 http://www.beathustler.com/aliases
 
 http://www.beathustler.com/virtual-mailman
 
 I don't know what made me think this would be easy but I'm in 
 too deep 
 to turn back now.
 
 Please help.
 
 Thank you very much.
 
 -Evan
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Topics

2004-12-09 Thread Christopher Adams
Basically, you enable Topics for a list and then give the Topic a name, 
like 'Licensing Regulations' and then enter some keyword (in this 
example. the word 'Licensing' in the Regexp. Assuming a subscriber is 
subscribed to the 'Licensing' topic, you would send your message with 
the first line of the message being:

Keywords: Licensing
OR
Subject: Licensing
Each user can choose to receive or not receive messages that have no 
topic defined, but they must be subscribed to at least one topic to use 
this feature.

Email me if you have other questions.
Christopher Adams
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Does anyone have a basic overview of how to set up the topics and some 
examples of clever ways that people have used them?  I'm guessing 
using them can add some really cool depth to your discussion, and/or 
subtopics.

Thanks.
Jonathan
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[Mailman-Users] follow up on adding fields to general list information page

2004-12-09 Thread brad
Thanks for Mark to his answer to this, that information was a big help too,
but my real question (I wasn't specific enough), is this:

Can additional fields (besides name, email, I would like to add Title and
Company) be added to the General List Information page of a mailing list
and if so how?

But here is the key:

*** I don't want to just customize the look and feel of the page, I want
data that the users enter into new title and company fields be entered
and accessible in the Mailman database so that we can at least try to verify
that people who join the list are not competitors, and are truly our
customers.

In other words I want to add two fields to the MM-Subscribe-Box part of
the General list information page. That page already has
MM-Subscribe-Box and a mm-fullname-box fields, I would like to somehow
add a mm-jobtitle-box and a mm-company-box and be able to access the
data that the customers enter for those field later on.

I guess the easiest way to do this would be for the customers to add text on
the page Please put your name, title, and company in this field) above the
name mm-fullname-box, and then they would submit this data for the email
and name fields:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Doe, President, ABC Corp

But my boss would prefer not doing it that way. I am sure this is probably
possible modifying the python code, but I am looking for an easy way, if
possible, of doing this.

TIA,


Brad

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[Mailman-Users] Welcome message

2004-12-09 Thread PeteBell
Hi
I saw a reply to a query recently about editing the welcome message 
for a list.

My question is twofold:
I don't have access to the installation of Mailman, as it is shared. 
However, my host has been good at making certain files available to me 
on request. So...

(a) Which file is the correct one and how do I go about editing the 
file? Is it Python, a particular component of Python, or a text 
application, and how do I go about saving it back again into the 
correct format? (I have never used Python yet, so please be explicit 
and easy-to-follow)!

(b) Are there any other admin-editable notification emails which can be 
done in the same way?

Thanks in advance
PeteBell, UK
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[Mailman-Users] 2nd Try: PGP, mmreencrypt and DEFAULT_FILTER_PROGRAM

2004-12-09 Thread Anthony Grieco
Anyone?


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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 07:52:19 -0500
Subject: PGP, mmreencrypt and DEFAULT_FILTER_PROGRAM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hi,

I have been searching for a MLM that is PGP enabled (ie send mails
using list pub key, and re-encrypt out to members via their public
keys).  Mailman seemed to have what I wanted with mmreencrypt.  I now
have mailman up and working with Qmail and went to do the mmreencrypt
integration and found that the requirement of DEFAULT_FILTER_PROGRAM
seems to be now gone (and been replaced by the built in mime
filters?).

Is mmreencrypt still the way to go- or are there others addons? (or
other MLMs that might handle this better/natively)?

Has anyone gotten mmreencrypt working with a recent version of Mailman?

thanks
anthony
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Welcome message

2004-12-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
PeteBell wrote:

I saw a reply to a query recently about editing the welcome message 
for a list.

My question is twofold:

I don't have access to the installation of Mailman, as it is shared. 
However, my host has been good at making certain files available to me 
on request. So...

(a) Which file is the correct one and how do I go about editing the 
file? Is it Python, a particular component of Python, or a text 
application, and how do I go about saving it back again into the 
correct format? (I have never used Python yet, so please be explicit 
and easy-to-follow)!


The welcome message is subscribeack.txt (more later on where it is).


(b) Are there any other admin-editable notification emails which can be 
done in the same way?

The subscribeack.txt file is one of several .txt and .html templates
that can be edited on a per list, per virtual domain or sitewide
basis. See
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.048.htp
for information on where to put edited templates to effect this.

The .txt files are templates for e-mail messages and are simple plain
text files except they contain things such as %(listinfo_url)s which
will be replaced by the value of the named attribute as they are used.

The .html files are templates for web pages and are ordinary HTML
except they contain tags of the form MM-* (for example
MM-List-Name) which are replaced by defined substitutions as they
are used. You really have to look at the Python module
Mailman/HTMLFormatter.py and other modules listinfo.py, options.py,
roster.py and subscribe.py in the Cgi/ directory to see what the
various MM-* tag replacements are, but you can get some idea by just
comparing the generated HTML with the template.

To see what templates are available, look in the templates/xx/
directory where xx is the language. Since you don't have direct access
to your Mailman installation server, you have two choices -

download the Mailman tarball from SourceForge at
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=103package_id=69562release_id=238606
and extract it

or use the CVS browser at SourceForge to download individual files.
E.g. go to
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/mailman/mailman/templates/en/
for the English language templates.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] follow up on adding fields to general listinformation page

2004-12-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
brad wrote:

But here is the key:

*** I don't want to just customize the look and feel of the page, I want
data that the users enter into new title and company fields be entered
and accessible in the Mailman database so that we can at least try to verify
that people who join the list are not competitors, and are truly our
customers.

In other words I want to add two fields to the MM-Subscribe-Box part of
the General list information page. That page already has
MM-Subscribe-Box and a mm-fullname-box fields, I would like to somehow
add a mm-jobtitle-box and a mm-company-box and be able to access the
data that the customers enter for those field later on.

I guess the easiest way to do this would be for the customers to add text on
the page Please put your name, title, and company in this field) above the
name mm-fullname-box, and then they would submit this data for the email
and name fields:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Doe, President, ABC Corp

But my boss would prefer not doing it that way. I am sure this is probably
possible modifying the python code, but I am looking for an easy way, if
possible, of doing this.

You could certainly modify the subscribe form to add the two additional
fields. You wouldn't necessarily have to define mm-jobtitle-box and
mm-company-box to do this. You could just add the HTML for the
fields directly to the edited template.

But either way, what next? You have to modify the processing of the
form to accept and validate these fields and store these values in
newly defined attributes in the member database (stock database is
included with list configuration in the list's config.pck pickle).
You'd also have to deal with collecting the data in these fields via
other subscription methods such as e-mail. It looks to me like changes
to several pieces of Mailman would be involved.

And we haven't even addressed what you're going to do with this
information.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] follow up on adding fields to general listinformation page

2004-12-09 Thread John W. Baxter
On 12/9/2004 17:45, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 brad wrote:
 
 But here is the key:
 
 *** I don't want to just customize the look and feel of the page, I want
 data that the users enter into new title and company fields be entered
 and accessible in the Mailman database so that we can at least try to verify
 that people who join the list are not competitors, and are truly our
 customers.
 
 In other words I want to add two fields to the MM-Subscribe-Box part of
 the General list information page. That page already has
 MM-Subscribe-Box and a mm-fullname-box fields, I would like to somehow
 add a mm-jobtitle-box and a mm-company-box and be able to access the
 data that the customers enter for those field later on.
 
 I guess the easiest way to do this would be for the customers to add text on
 the page Please put your name, title, and company in this field) above the
 name mm-fullname-box, and then they would submit this data for the email
 and name fields:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 John Doe, President, ABC Corp
 
 But my boss would prefer not doing it that way. I am sure this is probably
 possible modifying the python code, but I am looking for an easy way, if
 possible, of doing this.
 
 You could certainly modify the subscribe form to add the two additional
 fields. You wouldn't necessarily have to define mm-jobtitle-box and
 mm-company-box to do this. You could just add the HTML for the
 fields directly to the edited template.
 
 But either way, what next? You have to modify the processing of the
 form to accept and validate these fields and store these values in
 newly defined attributes in the member database (stock database is
 included with list configuration in the list's config.pck pickle).
 You'd also have to deal with collecting the data in these fields via
 other subscription methods such as e-mail. It looks to me like changes
 to several pieces of Mailman would be involved.
 
 And we haven't even addressed what you're going to do with this
 information.

To me, it feels as if Brad is more interested in Customer Relations Manager
software than in mailing list software (one does want to know the title and
company when sending CRM-type messages, as in Brad's example above).


Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Articles 3.18, 3.37 (found by searching for Relations--there might be more
in there for other searches)

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