[Mailman-Users] donload clients to csv or exel

[Stephen Beck]

How do I download my client list to a csv or exel file for backup?

 

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[Mailman-Users] Vijay - Mailman bug report

[Vijay Kumar]

Hi,

 

Have installed and configured Mailman 2.1.5 on RH 9.0 system 

I tired to create the first mailing list and encountered with a bug.
Attached is the screen shot. 

 

Please let me know how I could move ahead ? 

I am sorry if  have posted this in the wrong mailing list. 

 

Regards,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] donload clients to csv or exel

[Brad Knowles]

At 9:46 AM -0800 2005-03-22, Stephen Beck wrote:
 How do I download my client list to a csv or exel file for backup?
	You can use the "list_members" command (see 
) 
to give you a listing of all subscribers, but this is not in CSV or 
Excel format.  You'd need to convert the output to something suitable.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Vijay - Mailman bug report

[Brad Knowles]

At 11:19 AM +0530 2005-03-23, Vijay Kumar wrote:
 Have installed and configured Mailman 2.1.5 on RH 9.0 system
 I tired to create the first mailing list and encountered with a bug.
 Attached is the screen shot.
	The screen shot was stripped by the list.  Could you describe the 
problem, or include the text of the error message?

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman

[Gildemar Herrera]

I setup the mailman on my website www.robertoiarussi.com
 , under mailing list.  I can't use it.
Can you help me?  Please look at the website.  I've tried everything and
I can't get people to sign on.  The archive list is not being created.
It says that you have joined but nothing happens on my end.

 

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[Mailman-Users] private archives authentication

[Daniel Barna]

Hello
I tried to set up mailing lists using mailman on SuSE-9.2 (my own mailman
installation, not the SuSE package)
 Everything works fine, but I can not access the private archives of the
lists using the url http://some.host.com/mailman/private/listname
when I enter a valid e-mail address and password for the given list, the
same login page is returned.
Does anyone have an idea why?
thanks
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[Mailman-Users] Vijay - Mailman bug 2.1.5

[Vijay Kumar]

Hi, 

Have installed and configured Mailman 2.1.5 on RH 9.0 system
I tired to create the first mailing list and encountered with a bug.

Below is the text version of the bug. 

Can someone tell me , how to move ahead now ? 

Do I need to reinstall and older version and re-configure everything from
scratch ? 

Regards
Vijay Kumar. 

Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5

We're sorry, we hit a bug!
If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of
this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what
happened. Thanks! 

Traceback:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
main()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 55, in main
process_request(doc, cgidata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 226, in
process_request
sys.modules[modname].create(mlist, cgi=1)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 232, in create
_update_maps()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 53, in _update_maps
raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr)
RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias
/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted)

-

Python information:
Variable Value
sys.version 2.2.2 (#1, Feb 24 2003, 19:13:11) [GCC 3.2.2 20030222 (Red Hat
Linux 3.2.2-4)] sys.executable /usr/bin/python sys.prefix /usr
sys.exec_prefix /usr sys.path /usr sys.platform linux2

---
Environment variables:
Variable Value
CONTENT_LENGTH  146
HTTP_PRAGMA  no-cache
CONTENT_TYPE  application/x-www-form-urlencoded HTTP_COOKIE
mailman+admin=2802006925f13f4273280038386132346235323364326636656330
326533653139343939393534343335333432303734653262
SCRIPT_FILENAME  /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/create PYTHONPATH
/usr/local/mailman SERVER_SOFTWARE  Apache/2.0.40 (Red Hat Linux)
SERVER_ADMIN  [EMAIL PROTECTED] SCRIPT_NAME  /mailman/create SERVER_SIGNATURE
Apache/2.0.40 Server at newganesh.intranet.calsoftinc.com Port 80
REQUEST_METHOD  POST HTTP_HOST  newganesh.intranet.calsoftinc.com
SERVER_PROTOCOL  HTTP/1.0  
QUERY_STRING   
REQUEST_URI  /mailman/create
HTTP_ACCEPT  image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg,
application/x-shockwave-flash, application/vnd.ms-excel,
application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, application/msword, */* HTTP_USER_AGENT
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)
HTTP_CONNECTION  Keep-Alive HTTP_REFERER
http://newganesh.intranet.calsoftinc.com/mailman/create
SERVER_NAME  newganesh.intranet.calsoftinc.com REMOTE_ADDR  172.16.0.137
REMOTE_PORT  2274 HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE  en-us UNIQUE_ID
dEtz7awQAMwAABnFAlIE SERVER_PORT  80 GATEWAY_INTERFACE  CGI/1.1
SERVER_ADDR  172.16.0.204 DOCUMENT_ROOT  /var/www/html  

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Vijay - Mailman bug 2.1.5

[John Dennis]

On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 16:58 +0530, Vijay Kumar wrote:
> RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias
> /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted)

This is not a bug in mailman. Mailman has been asked to run a separate
program when you add a new list, postfix's postalias command. It is
postalias that is failing. I suspect its failing because postalias does
not have the correct permissions when it runs to modifiy the postfix
alias database. Did you read the instructions for how to set this up in
README.POSTFIX? Is the alias database you're pointing to owner and group
"mailman"?
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[Mailman-Users] 'Group mismatch error' problem

[Kevin Ratcliffe]

Hi
Can anybody help me please.  I've installed Mailman as per the install 
instructions.  I am using exim as my MTA.
I configured mailman with './configure --with-mail-gid=mail 
--with-cgi-gid=apache'
I installed exim with the user and group 'mail'.
I followed the instructions to configure exim for mailman.
My MTA seems to be working fine.
But I cant seem to get any mailing lists to work.
I can sbuscribe to groups but never get an email reply.

when I do a '$MM_PREFIX/mail/mailman post', I get:
Group mismatch error.  Mailman expected the mail
wrapper script to be executed as group "mail", but
the system's mail server executed the mail script as
group "root".  Try tweaking the mail server to run the
script as group "mail", or re-run configure,
providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=root'.
when I check Mailmans smtp-failure log, I get:
Mar 23 14:27:36 2005 (1390) Low level smtp error: (111, 'Connection 
refused'), msgid: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mar 23 14:27:36 2005 (1390) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with 
code -1: (111, 'Connection refused')

I am assuming that exim cannot do the delivery because it cannot run the 
'$MM_PREFIX/mail/mailman post' script.

Can someone please give me a clue where I am going wrong.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL Issues

[Heather Madrone]

At 1:51 PM -0600 3/22/05, Terry Smith wrote:
>   I read a article you posted on a website about aol and 
>bouncing email due 554 errorcould you tell me if you have heard 
>any information on this or what causes the problem

Hoo boy, would I like a good answer to this question!  I hear that the
button to report mail as spam is right next to the delete key and that
AOL encourages people to report unwanted email as spam.  So, when
a person gets tired of receiving mail from a mailing list, they can just
report it as spam and it goes away.

This has been happening on and off for some time.  There's no good
way to tell which address is reporting the list as spam (AOL certainly
won't tell you), so it cannot be easily removed.

I've finally gotten to the point that I have sent private mail to all AOL
subscribers letting them know that AOL is refusing delivery of their
list mail, suggesting that they complain to AOL, and recommending
that they get a free hotmail, yahoo, or gmail account for their list mail.

I'm thinking of updating all my list information pages to let AOL users
know that their ISP refuses delivery of many list postings and that they
should consider a different service provider.

Anyway, it's not a Mailman problem; it's an AOL problem.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman

[Mark Sapiro]

Gildemar Herrera wrote:

>I setup the mailman on my website www.robertoiarussi.com
> , under mailing list.  I can't use it.
>Can you help me?  Please look at the website.  I've tried everything and
>I can't get people to sign on.  The archive list is not being created.
>It says that you have joined but nothing happens on my end.

I looked at the source HTML of your "subscribe form" at
http://www.robertoiarussi.com/mailing%20list.htm, and I see no
 tags

See
>Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Article 4.33

It looks from some of your HTML that you may have read this FAQ and
mis-interpreted "The only required parts of this form are the email
text box and the submit button - edit or remove the others as you
like." This means you can edit or remove things within the form, but
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives missing on newly-created list

[Mark Sapiro]

Charlie Summers wrote:
>
>   Can anyone point me to a "flowchart" of message flow though Mailman?

You could look at Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, but thus doesn't
really show what I think you want - the part I think you're looking
for is compressed into

  joerandom ---> mylist ---> list members

Look in Defaults.py at the definition of GLOBAL_PIPELINE which defines
the flow through the various Mailman/Handlers/ modules.


>I'm particularly interested in when the 
>~/archives/private/.mbox/.mbox file is created, and when posts are 
>written to it. Is it normal for a newly-created list _not_ to have that file 
>created?

Yes, IIRC the directory is created with the list, but the file is not
created until it is needed.


>Is it normal for this file _not_ to exist even after a successful posting to 
>the list? Is it normal for the post text to _only_ appear (based on grep -R) 
>within the directury structure at ~/lists//digest.mbox and nowhere else?

Depending on list archiving and global archiving, maybe. Is archiving
turned on for the list? Is ARCHIVE_TO_MBOX set to 1 or 2? Default is 2
- see definitions in Defaults.py

If these things are all set for archiving to occur and the .mbox
to be written, it's probably a group/permissions issue.

Have you looked at Mailman's 'error' log?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] private archives authentication

[Brad Knowles]

At 12:30 PM +0100 2005-03-23, Daniel Barna wrote:
  Everything works fine, but I can not access the private archives of the
 lists using the url http://some.host.com/mailman/private/listname
 when I enter a valid e-mail address and password for the given list, the
 same login page is returned.
	This could be the "redirect" problem.  See 
.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL Issues

[Brad Knowles]

At 7:22 AM -0800 2005-03-23, Heather Madrone wrote:
   I read a article you posted on a website about aol and
bouncing email due 554 errorcould you tell me if you have heard
any information on this or what causes the problem
 Hoo boy, would I like a good answer to this question!  I hear that the
 button to report mail as spam is right next to the delete key and that
 AOL encourages people to report unwanted email as spam.  So, when
 a person gets tired of receiving mail from a mailing list, they can just
 report it as spam and it goes away.
	Speaking as the former Sr. Internet Administrator for AOL, I 
don't think that there will ever be a good answer to this question. 
See 
 
for some more info.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] 'Group mismatch error' problem

[Mark Sapiro]

Kevin Ratcliffe wrote:
>
>Can anybody help me please.  I've installed Mailman as per the install 
>instructions.  I am using exim as my MTA.
>I configured mailman with './configure --with-mail-gid=mail 
>--with-cgi-gid=apache'
>I installed exim with the user and group 'mail'.
>I followed the instructions to configure exim for mailman.
>My MTA seems to be working fine.
>But I cant seem to get any mailing lists to work.
>I can sbuscribe to groups but never get an email reply.
>
>when I do a '$MM_PREFIX/mail/mailman post', I get:
>
>Group mismatch error.  Mailman expected the mail
>wrapper script to be executed as group "mail", but
>the system's mail server executed the mail script as
>group "root".  Try tweaking the mail server to run the
>script as group "mail", or re-run configure,
>providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=root'.


This happens when you run the command as user/group root. What happens
when Exim runs it? If exim (or you) runs it as group 'mail', it should
be fine.

>
>when I check Mailmans smtp-failure log, I get:
>
>Mar 23 14:27:36 2005 (1390) Low level smtp error: (111, 'Connection 
>refused'), msgid: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Mar 23 14:27:36 2005 (1390) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with 
>code -1: (111, 'Connection refused')
>
>I am assuming that exim cannot do the delivery because it cannot run the 
>'$MM_PREFIX/mail/mailman post' script.

No, that is probably not the reason since the '$MM_PREFIX/mail/mailman
post' script is run for an incoming post and the smtp-failure message
above is related to an attempt by Mailman to send some message
(generated by mailman judging from the msgid) to you. Mailman is
unable to connect to the outgoing MTA via SMTP. If you haven't changed
SMTPHOST and SMTPPORT from their defaults in Defaults.py, this means
Mailman can't connect to 'localhost' port 25. This is probably an Exim
or system configuration issue, not a Mailman problem per se.

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[Mailman-Users] Accepting "implicit destination" messages based on other headers?

[Ivan Fetch]

Hello,
   I'm wondering whether it is currently possible, or whether there is 
something on the drawing board, to allow accepting of messages normally 
held for "implicit destination" based on other headers than To or CC?   We 
would like to accept certain messages based on another header, without 
opening things up to much by putting something overly general in 
acceptable_aliases.

Thank you,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives missing on newly-created list

[Mark Sapiro]

Charlie Summers wrote:
>
>   Can I assume I have enough of a situation that I should start from the
>beginning and detail the issue? (It almost _has_ to be my fault somewhere,
>but I've replicated this same thing with _four_ clean installs, two from the
>RPM and two from the downloaded source following the "GNU Mailman -
>Installation Manual" item by item. Everything else, web, mail, seems just
>fine; only the archives are consistantly AWOL.)

I think I have the answer. I tried to look up your original post in the
Mailman-users archive to see if you'd mentioned your platform because
I was thinking of an SeLinux issue. Guess what? Neither of your posts
in this thread are in the archive. The second post which I received by
direct Cc: contains an

X-No-Archive: yes

header. I'm sure if you post to your list without that header, your
post will be archived.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Accepting "implicit destination" messages based onother headers?

[Mark Sapiro]

Ivan Fetch wrote:
>
>I'm wondering whether it is currently possible, or whether there is 
>something on the drawing board, to allow accepting of messages normally 
>held for "implicit destination" based on other headers than To or CC?   We 
>would like to accept certain messages based on another header, without 
>opening things up to much by putting something overly general in 
>acceptable_aliases.

An

Approved: 

header will work. Beyond that, I'm not aware of anything available or
"on the drawing board". You can check http://www.list.org/todo.html
and http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=103&atid=350103

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Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL Issues

[Dave Dewey]

Quoting Heather Madrone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):


> This has been happening on and off for some time.  There's no good
> way to tell which address is reporting the list as spam (AOL certainly
> won't tell you), so it cannot be easily removed.

Actually there is.  If you use VERP and setup a feedback loop through AOL,
the complainer's email address is included in the complaint sent back to you
through the loop.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL Issues

[Martin Dennett]

Dave Dewey wrote:
Quoting Heather Madrone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 

This has been happening on and off for some time.  There's no good
way to tell which address is reporting the list as spam (AOL certainly
won't tell you), so it cannot be easily removed.
   

Actually there is.  If you use VERP and setup a feedback loop through AOL,
the complainer's email address is included in the complaint sent back to you
through the loop.
Having had a similar problem over the last 48 hours or so, it appears 
that the IP address of my mailing list doesn't have a Reverse DNS, as 
opposed to my web site which does. I just have to contact my mail 
provider to get the issue sorted and AOL will add that IP to their White 
List, and hopefully the issue will be solved.

Quite why it's taken AOL over a month with a steady flow of traffic to 
realise this is another issue

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[Mailman-Users] mail -r?

[Matthew A. Marshall]

Hello. I've just converted from mailman 2.0.x to mailman 2.1.x.  After 
sending the confirmation back to the list-request email address, I 
receive this error:

  - Transcript of session follows -
mail: invalid option -- r
Usage: mail [-iInv] [-s subject] [-c cc-addr] [-b bcc-addr] to-addr ...
   [- sendmail-options ...]
  mail [-iInNv] -f [name]
  mail [-iInNv] [-u user]
554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 1

Also, if I attempt to run the mailman command from the command-line I 
receive this:

Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be
executed as one of the following groups:
[mail, postfix, mailman, nobody],
but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group: "root".
Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as one of these groups:
[mail, postfix, mailman, nobody],
or re-run configure providing the command line option:
'--with-mail-gid=root'.
The mailman command is chgrp'd to mailman with the group sticky bit enabled.
Has anyone else experienced this same problem?
Thanks,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives missing on newly-created list

[Charlie Summers]

At 1:56 PM -0500 3/23/05, Mark Sapiro is rumored to have typed:

> I think I have the answer.

   Bloody heck if you don't. I had forgotten all about adding that silly
header field a while back testing something _else._

   Aside from being embarassed, I _greatly_ appreciate the gentle help!

 Charlie


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Re: [Mailman-Users] mail -r?

[Mark Sapiro]

Matthew A. Marshall wrote:

>Hello. I've just converted from mailman 2.0.x to mailman 2.1.x.  After 
>sending the confirmation back to the list-request email address, I 
>receive this error:
>
>   - Transcript of session follows -
>mail: invalid option -- r
>Usage: mail [-iInv] [-s subject] [-c cc-addr] [-b bcc-addr] to-addr ...
>[- sendmail-options ...]
>   mail [-iInNv] -f [name]
>   mail [-iInNv] [-u user]
>554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 1

What do your aliases look like for the list-request and other
addresses? Did you change them for 2.1.x?

They should be something like:

list: "|/path_to/mailman/mail/mailman post list"
list-request: "|/path_to/mailman/mail/mailman request list"
etc.

Or if you're using Exim, see http://www.exim.org/howto/mailman21.html

>Also, if I attempt to run the mailman command from the command-line I 
>receive this:
>
>Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be
>executed as one of the following groups:
>[mail, postfix, mailman, nobody],
>but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group: "root".
>Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as one of these groups:
>[mail, postfix, mailman, nobody],
>or re-run configure providing the command line option:
>'--with-mail-gid=root'.


This is the expected response if you don't run the command as the same
group as your incoming MTA does.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mail -r?

[John Dennis]

On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 15:50 -0500, Matthew A. Marshall wrote:
> Hello. I've just converted from mailman 2.0.x to mailman 2.1.x.  After 
> sending the confirmation back to the list-request email address, I 
> receive this error:
> 
>- Transcript of session follows -
> mail: invalid option -- r
> Usage: mail [-iInv] [-s subject] [-c cc-addr] [-b bcc-addr] to-addr ...
> [- sendmail-options ...]
>mail [-iInNv] -f [name]
>mail [-iInNv] [-u user]
> 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 1

Who is giving you this error? When you reply in your MUA?

> Also, if I attempt to run the mailman command from the command-line I 
> receive this:
> 
> Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be
> executed as one of the following groups:
> [mail, postfix, mailman, nobody],
> but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group: "root".
> Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as one of these groups:
> [mail, postfix, mailman, nobody],
> or re-run configure providing the command line option:
> '--with-mail-gid=root'.
> 
> The mailman command is chgrp'd to mailman with the group sticky bit enabled.

Thats because "mailman" is a wrapper script meant to be executed by your
MTA, its not a command line program (e.g. what's in the mailman bin
directory). Mailman is guarding against anybody else executing what is
supposed to be a private command only to executed by an MTA. The list
presented to you in the error is a common list of of uid's that have the
permission to execute the command. You will need to either logon as one
of them or su to one of them.

P.S. I assume the only reason you're attempting to execute the mailman
command, is for testing purposes, one would never normally do this.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mail -r?

[John Dennis]

On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 15:50 -0500, Matthew A. Marshall wrote:
> Hello. I've just converted from mailman 2.0.x to mailman 2.1.x.

Also, it just occurred to me, the aliases changed between 2.0 and 2.1,
do you still have the old aliases in your alias file?
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[Mailman-Users] "User unknown in local recipient table" Error

[Olson, Gary]

I've got two lists up and running after a new install of Mailman 2.1.5
(RH E 3, Apache 2.0.46, Postfix 2.0.16) but when I went to create a
third list today everything went fine until I sent an email to test the
new list.   The message came right back with a "User unknown in local
recipient table" error.  I did a search of the
documentation/troubleshooting and this list's archives and tried
changing the  local_recipient_maps in main.cf for Postfix.  When I did
that I get a database loop for admin error for the new list that again
bounces the message back to me.  The other two lists run just fine with
the Postfix variable local_recipient_maps commented out.

The Postfix aliases are the same for all three lists except for the list
name, of course.

By the way, this third list created today was created with Mailman Admin
while the others I did from the command line.

Any ideas on why this is happening or where I might look to see what is
causing this?

Gary
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Re: [Mailman-Users] "User unknown in local recipient table" Error

[Mark Sapiro]

Olson, Gary wrote:
>
>The Postfix aliases are the same for all three lists except for the list
>name, of course.
>
>By the way, this third list created today was created with Mailman Admin
>while the others I did from the command line.
>
>Any ideas on why this is happening or where I might look to see what is
>causing this?

Perhaps there is a permissions issue that prevented the postalias
command from updating the aliases.db file with the third list's
aliases when run from the web interface.

You could try running postalias manually and see if that fixes the
problem.

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RE: [Mailman-Users] "User unknown in local recipient table" Error

[Olson, Gary]

 In rereading
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq06.009.htp
, I checked that data/aliases and data/aliases.db were both
group writable.  Oddly aliases.db was not but the aliases was.   When I
changed that to make it group writable all three lists now work.  Odd
that two lists worked with that setting and the one didn't.  Another
strange aspect is that there were no errors logged for this.  The latter
warrants further investigation.

Thanks for the help.

Gary

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 4:12 PM
To: Olson, Gary; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] "User unknown in local recipient table"
Error

Olson, Gary wrote:
>
>The Postfix aliases are the same for all three lists except for the 
>list name, of course.
>
>By the way, this third list created today was created with Mailman 
>Admin while the others I did from the command line.
>
>Any ideas on why this is happening or where I might look to see what is

>causing this?

Perhaps there is a permissions issue that prevented the postalias
command from updating the aliases.db file with the third list's aliases
when run from the web interface.

You could try running postalias manually and see if that fixes the
problem.

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[Mailman-Users] SUEXEC question

[Ashley M. Kirchner]

   Mailman likes to have the scripts in /cgi-bin/ to be run with 
set-gid, however SUEXEC won't allow it.  So, a) can mailman work in a 
SUEXEC environment if I turn OFF the set-gid bit?, or b) what other 
caveats do I have to look out for with mailman running in a SUEXEC 
environment?

   I looked in the FAQ for 'suexec' but that search turned up empty, so 
I'm not sure if I'm not searching for the right term, or whether no one 
has tried it yet.  There is also no mention of suexec anywhere in the 
source files or documentation.

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RE: [Mailman-Users] "User unknown in local recipient table" Error

[Mark Sapiro]

Olson, Gary wrote:

> In rereading
>http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq06.009.htp
>, I checked that data/aliases and data/aliases.db were both
>group writable.  Oddly aliases.db was not but the aliases was.   When I
>changed that to make it group writable all three lists now work.  Odd
>that two lists worked with that setting and the one didn't.


Not really so odd. If you ran bin/newlist as a user who had permission
to write aliases.db (root?), everything could have succeeded even
though newalias might fail when run from the web script.


>Another
>strange aspect is that there were no errors logged for this.  The latter
>warrants further investigation.


True. When Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py runs POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD, it checks the
status (returned by os.system()) and logs any error in the 'error'
log. It's strange that nothing was logged here.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL Issues

[Larry Stone]

On 3/23/05 1:59 PM, Dave Dewey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Quoting Heather Madrone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> 
>> This has been happening on and off for some time.  There's no good
>> way to tell which address is reporting the list as spam (AOL certainly
>> won't tell you), so it cannot be easily removed.
> 
> Actually there is.  If you use VERP and setup a feedback loop through AOL,
> the complainer's email address is included in the complaint sent back to you
> through the loop.

That's what I do. Prior to turning on VERP for every message (originally I
had it set to VERP every tenth message), I had a couple reported as SPAM but
without VERP, the feedback loop is not much help.

So now everything is VERP'd plus there's a message at the bottom that says
"Attention AOL users: You have voluntarily subscribed to this list. If you
report this message as spam, you will be unsubscribed and banned from this
server." While it hasn't happened since, if one does get reported as spam, I
do mean it about banning them from the server. Right into my Postfix
sender_checks they will go.

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[Mailman-Users] Setting Header For Postings

[Staven Bruce]

We are using Mailman 2.1.5 and I was going through the FAQ's trying to
figure our the most secure way to set up an announce only list. I saw under
FAQ 3.11, the suggestion to moderate all users, and for the approved posters
to do the following:

 "...A more secure alternative is for your approved posters to add
an Approved header to their postings as a  header, or as the first line of
the post)." 

My question is where and how do I "add an Approved header" ? I've been
through the Mailman interface, but I am a little confused on how to do this.
Any info you could pass along would be appreciated. 

Thanks,

Staven

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives missing on newly-created list

[John W. Baxter]

On 3/23/2005 8:44, "Charlie Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Before I get to the meat of my situation, I need to verify that I do indeed
> have a problem; since I have not been able to find _any_ reference to anything
> similar through searching this list's archives, the web, et al, I'm not
> convinced this isn't either "installer-error" or even just a mistaken
> impression on how things are supposed to work.

Short of VERP, I've been considering configuring Exim on the mailing list
servers to send AOL messages one per connection, and through another of our
servers rather than directly.  That way the second of our servers will log
the "for [EMAIL PROTECTED]" phrase, and we'll have a chance.  I haven't done the
deed yet, so I don't yet know how (and moving to a newer Exim and Mailman
takes precedence when I have the time).

(It would be nice to be able to configure Mailman to VERP on a per receiving
mail domain basis.  But that's not in there.)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting Header For Postings

[Mark Sapiro]

Staven Bruce wrote:
>
>My question is where and how do I "add an Approved header" ? I've been
>through the Mailman interface, but I am a little confused on how to do this.
>Any info you could pass along would be appreciated. 

If your MUA supports it, you can include the

Approved: 

line anywhere in the actual headers of the message you send to the
list. If it isn't easy to do that, just make it the first line of the
message body and follow it with a blank line as sometimes the line
following gets stripped along with the Approved: line.

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[Mailman-Users] unknown mailer problems

[Ashley M. Kirchner]

   So right now I'm faced with the following error:
- Transcript of session follows -
/usr/bin/python: can't open file '/home/mailman/lists/scripts/post'
554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2
   However, here's my problem: that file does exist, in that path, so 
why would python complain that it can't open it?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] unknown mailer problems

[Ashley M. Kirchner]

Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
   So right now I'm faced with the following error:
- Transcript of session follows -
/usr/bin/python: can't open file '/home/mailman/lists/scripts/post'
554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2
   However, here's my problem: that file does exist, in that path, so 
why would python complain that it can't open it?

   I forgot to add: the permissions are correct, but for the mail-gid 
as well as cgi-gid.  That I checked over and over, and they're correct.  
So what else could be causing the problem?

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[Mailman-Users] Could not get immediately message

[王 博]

  Hello:
i am using Mailman-2.16beta on my RedHat linux box,it works.But here 
is the problem i got now: the Digest works fine,the members can get daily 
digest without any problem,while if member sent a individual message to the 
list,after it was approved,members who register as "non-digest" should get 
it,right? but actually not Please tell me where the problem is or how 
can i solve it,is there anything should be set in configuration field ? 
(non-digestable function already ON,i am 100% sure).
BTW,before i used version 2.15,the digest and non-digest both work,but 
the problem is the delievery of all messages randomly delayed 
sometimes,then i upgraded to 2.16beta,the delay problem seems solved,but 
this new one came  
This is urgent for me to solve it,appreciate if anyone can help,Thanks 
a lot

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.6 beta 5 released

[Tokio Kikuchi]

Hi,

Sorry for the delay of 2.1.6 but a serious bug was found in the previous
beta releases. I put a final beta release before jumping up to the
release candidate. The bug is related to 'Privacy -> SPAM filter ->
header_filter_rules'. So, I want all of you, who have had brave souls to
upgrade 2.1.6 beta and who use this feature, to upgrade again to 2.1.6
beta 5.

The tarball is placed at

http://mm.tkikuchi.net/mailman-2.1.6b5.tgz

# Sorry but it looks like I have not access to the file releases on SF.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] unknown mailer problems

[Mark Sapiro]

Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:

>Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
>
>>
>>So right now I'm faced with the following error:
>>
>> - Transcript of session follows -
>> /usr/bin/python: can't open file '/home/mailman/lists/scripts/post'
>> 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2
>>
>>However, here's my problem: that file does exist, in that path, so 
>> why would python complain that it can't open it?
>>
>I forgot to add: the permissions are correct, but for the mail-gid 
>as well as cgi-gid.  That I checked over and over, and they're correct.  
>So what else could be causing the problem?


It's hard to know what the problem might be because you seem to be
presenting a moving target and not telling us much about what you're
doing. Your initial post was about suEXEC and removing the setgid bit
from the various wrappers in the cgi-bin/ directory.

Now this, which has to do with posting and is strange in a couple of
respects. First of all, the scripts/post script is not normally found
in the lists/ directory. Assuming that the installation directory
(sometimes called $prefix) is /home/mailman/, the path to the post
script would normally be /home/mailman/scripts/post. If this file is
really /home/mailman/lists/scripts/post, it would indicate that
configure was run with an unusual --prefix= option.

Also, the python command to run the post script was invoked by the
(maybe?) /home/mailman/mail/mailman wrapper which was in turn invoked
by the incoming MTA. The wrapper should be setgid so it can set the
executing group to 'mailman' (or whatever your mailman group is). This
should not be affected by suEXEC one way or the other because the web
server isn't involved.

So, are you trying to remove setgid from everything and somehow give
permissions to the mail-gid and the cgi-gid? I don't really know about
running Mailman under suEXEC, but I would suggest that the only thing
that would change from a standard install would be something like the
following (assuming your mailman group is 'mailman'):

-Files should be group writable and group 'mailman'
-Only the wrappers in cgi-bin/ should be not setgid and this only
because suEXEC requires it.
-Web server executes cgi-bin/ wrappers as user/group 'mailman' via
suEXEC (which I think would require configure be run
--with-cgi-gid='mailman')

Note that the above contradicts the following from the INSTALL document:

- You want to be very sure that the user id under which your CGI
  scripts run is *not* in the `mailman' group you created above,
  otherwise private archives will be accessible to anyone.

I think what this really means is it isn't possible to set Mailman up
properly to run with suEXEC.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] unknown mailer problems

[Ashley M. Kirchner]

Mark Sapiro wrote:
It's hard to know what the problem might be because you seem to be
presenting a moving target and not telling us much about what you're
doing. Your initial post was about suEXEC and removing the setgid bit
from the various wrappers in the cgi-bin/ directory.
   Yes it was, and after removing the set-gid bits from everything 
within the /cgi-bin/, I kept on trucking because it seemed to run just 
fine.  I say "seemed" because I haven't done a whole lot of testing just 
yet.  When I was ready to do that, I ran into the unknown mailer 
problem...  Which by the way has now been solved as well.  Keep reading 
please...

First of all, the scripts/post script is not normally found
in the lists/ directory.
   This is correct, however I run mailman across several domains, on 
the same server, and its built-in virtual domain capabilities simply 
don't allow me to do what I want to do (or what my clients want.)  So, I 
install mailman under one user, but in separate folders (for separate 
domains) /lists/ being one of them (this by the way was brought up 
several times in the past.)  So yes, your assumption is correct, I do 
configure mailman with --prefix=/home/mailman//

So, are you trying to remove setgid from everything and somehow give
permissions to the mail-gid and the cgi-gid? I don't really know about
running Mailman under suEXEC.
   Neither do I, however with our recent web server upgrades and 
batting down the hatches, I'm forces to find a way to install Mailman 
under suexec.  So this was my project of the day.

I think what this really means is it isn't possible to set Mailman up
properly to run with suEXEC.
   Maybe so, however I'm still testing it out.  Yes, I have removed the 
set-gid bit from anything within the /cgi-bin/ folder since that's what 
suexec requires.  As for the other error (unknown mailer error), python 
won't read/execute programs in a folder that's g-x which /home/mailman/ 
was.  Once that restriction was removed, it happily worked.

   Now I need to continue testing, sending myself mail, subscribing, 
etc., etc.  So far, it's working.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] unknown mailer problems

[Mark Sapiro]

Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:

>Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
>>I think what this really means is it isn't possible to set Mailman up
>>properly to run with suEXEC.
>>
>Maybe so, however I'm still testing it out.  Yes, I have removed the 
>set-gid bit from anything within the /cgi-bin/ folder since that's what 
>suexec requires.  As for the other error (unknown mailer error), python 
>won't read/execute programs in a folder that's g-x which /home/mailman/ 
>was.  Once that restriction was removed, it happily worked.
>
>Now I need to continue testing, sending myself mail, subscribing, 
>etc., etc.  So far, it's working.

I'm not saying it won't work. I think it probably will. The one issue I
think you may have is if you have private archives, they may turn out
to be accessible to anyone because your web server now runs as group
mailman which is documented as wrong for this reason.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] unknown mailer problems

[Ashley M. Kirchner]

Mark Sapiro wrote:
I'm not saying it won't work. I think it probably will. The one issue I
think you may have is if you have private archives, they may turn out
to be accessible to anyone because your web server now runs as group
mailman which is documented as wrong for this reason.
 

   Hrm, yes, that would be a problem (I just tested it and it's indeed 
visible to everyone, despite the URL difference.)  I'd hate to have to 
come up with a login procedure outside of mailman simply because it 
won't play well with suexec.  Yes I realize it's mentioned very 
specifically that mailman needs for the exec not to be run as the 
mailman user, however that will go against suexec's security feature.  
So I guess my question now is, what can be done to make this work?  Or 
maybe a better question would be, when will mailman reach a point where 
it will and can run within a suexec environment?  I like my security and 
I like using mailman.

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