Re: [Mailman-Users] non human interface for manging users
At 2:54 PM +0900 2006-02-06, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: AFAIK Mailman 2.2 is not expected to get major improvements in this area, but Tokio Kikuchi the authoritative source on that (IIRC); if a brief look at Mailman 2.1 MemberAdapter seems unsatisfactory, you could ask (on this list would be best, I think) about Mailman 2.2. Questions about using MemberAdapter would definitely belong on this list. If someone wanted to talk about contributions they'd like to make to the code, that would belong on mailman-developers. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member since December 2005. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Virtual Servers
I am sure I should be able to sort this one out via the documentation/threads, but am struggling to do so, so some help would be appreciated! I have successfully set up mailman 2.1.6 on my redhat server, but now wish to use further domain names. I would like the domain names to be treated as separately as possible, but reading through the docs, it seems that I cannot have the same list name on separate domains. This is not an issue, so fine. I have set up a virtual mail domain for a second domain, and am able to successfully send/receive email via this domain. I have then changed the preferred domain for one of my lists (via web interface) to this second domain. I'm sure there is more to do, but unsure exactly what: The question is, what do I need to do next in postfix/mailman to make the two work together? 1 - Do I need to edit /etc/postfix/virtual? 2 - What changes do I need to make to mailman? 3 - Do I need to make any changes to httpd.conf or other apache config files? (note that I can access the mailman admin interface via domain1/mailman/admin and also domain2/mailman/admin, but at present the list of email lists only shows up via domain1/mailman/admin) My setup is pretty much standard, so just a bit of handholding should get me through if anyone is able to spell it out for me. Thanks in advance, Jon ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mails don't reach some subscribers
How we can check that a message was sent to the entire list if some of the members didn't received that mail? Is the sending process controlled by the MTA or directly by mailman? Is there any log where i can check every mail sended by mailman like the mail.log from the MTA? I'm using Postfix as my MTA. Thanks. -- Xabier Guitián [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alsernet 2000 S.L. http://www.alsernet.es Tlf: 902 187 187 - Fax: 902 187 188 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mails don't reach some subscribers
Xabier Guitián, Montag, 6. Februar 2006 11:41: How we can check that a message was sent to the entire list if some of the members didn't received that mail? Is the sending process controlled by the MTA or directly by mailman? Is there any log where i can check every mail sended by mailman like the mail.log from the MTA? What does /var/log/mail say? Looking at that log, did MM send the Mail to these users, or didn't it? Did you check that your users are subscribed, don't receive digests, and didn't set mail delivery on hold? -- Andre Tann -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman log error
Mark Sapiro wrote: Clóvis Tristão wrote: How to see the unknown users in Mailman? It is generate any log about users unknown? I saw in the /var/log/maillog, but is very difficult identify, many information. Go to the list admin Bounce processing page for the list and be sure bounce_processing is set to Yes. Then, depending the frequency of posts to your list and how agressive you want to be about removing bouncing members, set the other options according to their descriptions. Then all bounces will be logged in the 'bounce' log. and members will be automatically disabled and removed according to your settings. Hi Mr. Mark Sapiro, I discovered that mailman is not removing the user of the list when returns bounce, sees the example below: Feb 6 13:33:26 myshost postfix/smtpd[28902]: 988FDC3D799: reject: RCPT from localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]: 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table; from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] to=[EMAIL PROTECTED] proto=ESMTP helo=domain.com.br ./list_members listname | grep -i username username@domain.com.br The user not exist in my system domain.. What it can be happening? Tkanks a lot, Clóvis -- Clovis Tristao - UNICAMP/Faculdade de Engenharia Agricola Administrador de Redes - Secao de Informatica (SINFO) E-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.agr.unicamp.br Fone(0xx19) 37881031-37881038 ou FAX(55xx19) 37881005/37881010 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman log error
Clovis Tristao wrote: I discovered that mailman is not removing the user of the list when returns bounce, sees the example below: If Bounce processing for the list is on, default bounce settings will disable delivery to a member only after bounces occur on 5 different days with no more than 7 days between any two bounces. Then after disable, 3 warning notices are sent at 7 day intervals, and then the member is removed from the list. If you want a member to be removed on the first bounce, go to the Bounce processing page for the list and set the following: bounce_processing: Yes bounce_score_threshold: 0.9 bounce_info_stale_after: doesn't matter in this case bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings: 0 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings_interval: doesn't matter in this case Also, set the notifications to Yes, so you will see what's happening. You can always look in Mailman's 'bounce' log to see if bounces are being recorded. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Unauthorized mailings
There have been mailings through my mailman account that are not authorized - in fact, I have cancelled my extra services from my server Time Warner and no longer have the capability of sending mailman messages. People are receiving messages with attachments and a short message. Can you help? Best regards, Robin Tara Design, Inc. www.taratangoshoes.com Toll Free in US: 1-877-906-8272 18 Stillman St. So. Portland ME 04106 207-741-2992-- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mails don't reach some subscribers
Xabier Guitián wrote: How we can check that a message was sent to the entire list if some of the members didn't received that mail? Is the sending process controlled by the MTA or directly by mailman? Is there any log where i can check every mail sended by mailman like the mail.log from the MTA? Mailman has two logs, 'smtp' and 'smtp-failure' which will tell you (smtp) that the post was delivered to the MTA and how many recipients there were, but not their addresses, and (smtp-failure) if there were any errors in delivery to the MTA. If you have automated bounce processing enabled for the list, Mailman's 'bounce' log will tell you which addresses bounced. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman log error
Mark Sapiro wrote: If you want a member to be removed on the first bounce, go to the Bounce processing page for the list and set the following: bounce_processing: Yes bounce_score_threshold: 0.9 bounce_info_stale_after: doesn't matter in this case bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings: 0 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings_interval: doesn't matter in this case Also, set the notifications to Yes, so you will see what's happening. You can always look in Mailman's 'bounce' log to see if bounces are being recorded. Hey Mark, Configured as its suggestion. But because the system does not send email for the members of the list that are registered correctly? []s Clóvis -- Clovis Tristao - UNICAMP/Faculdade de Engenharia Agricola Administrador de Redes - Secao de Informatica (SINFO) E-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.agr.unicamp.br Fone(0xx19) 37881031-37881038 ou FAX(55xx19) 37881005/37881010 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual Servers
Jon Loose wrote:
I have successfully set up mailman 2.1.6 on my redhat
server, but now wish to use further domain names. I
would like the domain names to be treated as
separately as possible, but reading through the docs,
it seems that I cannot have the same list name on
separate domains. This is not an issue, so fine.
I have set up a virtual mail domain for a second
domain, and am able to successfully send/receive email
via this domain.
I have then changed the preferred domain for one of
my lists (via web interface) to this second domain.
I'm sure there is more to do, but unsure exactly what:
You probably need to run fix_url for the list, but that's not the first
step. See below.
The question is, what do I need to do next in
postfix/mailman to make the two work together?
1 - Do I need to edit /etc/postfix/virtual?
I'm not really familiar with Postfix, but see
http://www.list.org/mailman-install/postfix-virtual.html and the
other material in that section of the manual.
2 - What changes do I need to make to mailman?
In mm_cfg.py you need to set/add the following (see Defaults.py for
documentation)
MTA = Postfix
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS
add_virtualhost('url_hostname', 'email_hostname')
If the Defaults.py settings
POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postalias'
POSTFIX_MAP_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postmap'
aren't correct, override them in mm_cfg.py
3 - Do I need to make any changes to httpd.conf or
other apache config files? (note that I can access the
mailman admin interface via domain1/mailman/admin and
also domain2/mailman/admin, but at present the list of
email lists only shows up via domain1/mailman/admin)
Perhaps you are OK as is with apache then. If you put the
add_virtualhost() in mm_cfg.py and run fix_url to set the domain2 list
to 'domain2', that list should 'move to' the domain2 listinfo and
admin overview pages.
See
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.062.htp
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman log error
Clovis Tristao wrote: When send mail to the list appears the following error: /var/log/mailman/post: Feb 06 14:28:42 2006 (22383) post to listname-l from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=3D347714, message-id=3D[EMAIL PROTECTED], 350 failures In this list I possess 365 users. I do not know what to make, already I restarted the service some times, without success. Some tip? It looks like the entire SMTP transaction is failing. Look in /var/log/mailman/smtp and /var/log/mailman/smtp-failure for more information about this. (Whenever you see 'failures' in the post log, there should be more detail in the smtp-failure log.) -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman log error
Clovis Tristao wrote: In Defaults.py: DEFAULT_BOUNCE_PROCESSING = Yes REGISTER_BOUNCES_EVERY = minutes(15) DEFAULT_BOUNCE_SCORE_THRESHOLD = 5.0 DEFAULT_BOUNCE_INFO_STALE_AFTER = days(7) DEFAULT_BOUNCE_YOU_ARE_DISABLED_WARNINGS = 3 DEFAULT_BOUNCE_YOU_ARE_DISABLED_WARNINGS_INTERVAL = days(7) DEFAULT_BOUNCE_UNRECOGNIZED_GOES_TO_LIST_OWNER = Yes DEFAULT_BOUNCE_NOTIFY_OWNER_ON_DISABLE = Yes DEFAULT_BOUNCE_NOTIFY_OWNER_ON_REMOVAL = Yes These are only defaults for a new list. The actual settings for any list can be seen/set on the list admin Bounce processing web page for that list. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mails don't reach some subscribers
Hi! I've checked every log and find what i was looking for, the logs tells us the message-id I want to look after, it divides in different MTA IDs, i'm supposing that MM sorts them somehow. With that I can search across the logs looking for the specific list member i wanted to track. That's what i were looking for. I wonder if there is any tool that could do this for you :P Thanks for your help. -- Xabier Guitián [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alsernet 2000 S.L. http://www.alsernet.es Tlf: 902 187 187 - Fax: 902 187 188 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unauthorized mailings
rtara (Robin) wrote: There have been mailings through my mailman account that are not authorized - in fact, I have cancelled my extra services from my server Time Warner and no longer have the capability of sending mailman messages. Presumably someone is posting to the list by spoofing you as the sender of the post (i.e., faking the message to meke it look as though it comes from you). Are you the list owner? If so, you can set your subscription to moderated so posts 'from' you have to be approved. If not, you can ask the list owner to do it. You can unsubscribe the spoofed address and subscribe with a different address or a 'variant' of the spoofed address. You or someone with some expertise can examine the Received: and other headers in these posts and possibly determine the IP address of origin, but some of these may be spoofed as well, and it is usually not possible to determine the actual sender in any case without cooperation from the originating ISP which may not be obtainable without court order. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mails don't reach some subscribers
Xabier Guitián wrote: I've checked every log and find what i was looking for, the logs tells us the message-id I want to look after, it divides in different MTA IDs, i'm supposing that MM sorts them somehow. With that I can search across the logs looking for the specific list member i wanted to track. That's what i were looking for. I wonder if there is any tool that could do this for you :P There's no tool (other than grep and your fingers :-) that I'm aware of. Let us know if you find one or make one. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman log error
Mark Sapiro wrote: Clovis Tristao wrote: When send mail to the list appears the following error: /var/log/mailman/post: Feb 06 14:28:42 2006 (22383) post to listname-l from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=3D347714, message-id=3D[EMAIL PROTECTED], 350 failures In this list I possess 365 users. I do not know what to make, already I restarted the service some times, without success. Some tip? It looks like the entire SMTP transaction is failing. Look in /var/log/mailman/smtp and /var/log/mailman/smtp-failure for more information about this. (Whenever you see 'failures' in the post log, there should be more detail in the smtp-failure log.) /var/log/mailman/smtp Feb 06 14:28:42 2006 (22383) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp for 350 recips, completed in 34.526 seconds /var/log/mailman/smtp-failure Feb 06 14:28:42 2006 (22383) Low level smtp error: Server not connected, msgid: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Feb 06 14:28:42 2006 (22383) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code -1: Server not connected Any idea? -- Clovis Tristao - UNICAMP/Faculdade de Engenharia Agricola Administrador de Redes - Secao de Informatica (SINFO) E-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.agr.unicamp.br Fone(0xx19) 37881031-37881038 ou FAX(55xx19) 37881005/37881010 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Members only umbrella lists
Is there a way to configure settings so that one sub-list will accept mails posted to the umbrella list by a member a different sub-list? Want the whole thing to be members only to cut-out spam and also would ideally like to have sender's emal shown in the posts. E.g. Sub-listA: memberA1, memberA2 Sub-listB: memberB1, memberB2 UmbrellaList: Sub-ListA, Sub-ListB Although UmbrellaList is a recognised alias in both sub lists, if memberA1 posts to UmbrellaList the post is held for moderator approval by Sub-ListB because sender is a non-member! Is there a way around this though the settings in the Administrative Interface? Mailman v 2.1.6 provided by Web Hoster -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Members-only-umbrella-lists-t1070607.html#a2785397 Sent from the Mailman - Users forum at Nabble.com. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mails don't reach some subscribers
At 6:01 PM +0100 2006-02-06, Xabier Guitián wrote: I've checked every log and find what i was looking for, the logs tells us the message-id I want to look after, it divides in different MTA IDs, i'm supposing that MM sorts them somehow. Once the message has passed from Mailman to the MTA, there is nothing more that Mailman can do -- everything is in the hands of the MTA. With that I can search across the logs looking for the specific list member i wanted to track. That's what i were looking for. I wonder if there is any tool that could do this for you :P Not any Mailman-related tools, no. You should check with the author or company supporting your MTA to see if they have any such tools. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member since December 2005. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman log error
At 3:16 PM -0200 2006-02-06, Clovis Tristao wrote: /var/log/mailman/smtp-failure Feb 06 14:28:42 2006 (22383) Low level smtp error: Server not connected, msgid: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Feb 06 14:28:42 2006 (22383) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code -1: Server not connected Sounds like your MTA is not running. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member since December 2005. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Members only umbrella lists
RobertHJ wrote: Sub-listA: memberA1, memberA2 Sub-listB: memberB1, memberB2 UmbrellaList: Sub-ListA, Sub-ListB Although UmbrellaList is a recognised alias in both sub lists, if memberA1 posts to UmbrellaList the post is held for moderator approval by Sub-ListB because sender is a non-member! Is there a way around this though the settings in the Administrative Interface? No, I don't think so, other than making the umbrella list anonymous which you don't want to do. You can try subscribing [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the sub lists with delivery disabled and password reminders off. This may work. Let us know. (It depends in some ways on the settings of USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER and SENDER_HEADERS in mm_cfg.py, but I *think* it should work with the defaults.) Mailman v 2.1.6 provided by Web Hoster Bummer. There is a patch http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1220144group_id=103atid=300103 that would allow you to put '@Sub-listA' in accept_these_nonmembers of Sub-listB and vice versa. This would do what you want, but you'd have to convince the host to install the patch. This is on the list as a feature for Mailman 2.2. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] set mailman default for nonmember_rejection_notice
I am trying to set the default message (for new lists) for non-member posts that are rejected. In mm_cfg.py, I have tried: NONMEMBER_REJECTION_NOTICE= Blah blah blah blah That doesn't work. I understand that Python can use single, double, or triple quotes. None of these work. -- Christopher Adams -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] per list VERP
There is a way to enable VERP only for some list and not globally? -- Sythos - http://www.sythos.net () ASCII Ribbon Campaign - against html/rtf/vCard in mail /\- against M$ attachments Beccati questo strato di astrazione che ti nasconde la differenza tra umani e demoni e piu` non dimandare (Inferno III). -- Nando Santagata -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] changes not being saved
I've switched to mailman from qmail and none of the changes I submit are saved. Does anyone have any ideas on what the problem could be? - Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] set mailman default for nonmember_rejection_notice
Christopher Adams wrote: I am trying to set the default message (for new lists) for non-member posts that are rejected. In mm_cfg.py, I have tried: NONMEMBER_REJECTION_NOTICE= Blah blah blah blah That doesn't work. I understand that Python can use single, double, or triple quotes. None of these work. The problem is not in the syntax of your assignment, The problem is the default nonmember_rejection_notice for new lists is the null string (which in turn causes the default notice coded into Mailman/Handlers/Moderate.py to be used) and there is no provision for setting a different default in mm_cfg.py. In general, the only things that can be meaningfully set in mm_cfg.py are those things which are defined in Defaults.py. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] per list VERP
At 7:23 PM +0100 2006-02-06, Sythos wrote: There is a way to enable VERP only for some list and not globally? Not unless you want to modify the source code. If you create a patch, please upload it to the SourceForge web site. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member since December 2005. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] changes not being saved
Patrick Orr wrote: I've switched to mailman from qmail and none of the changes I submit are saved. Huh? Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Articles 1.22, 1.23 and 4.45. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Emails With Attachments
Hello All -- Thanks in advance for your suggestions and advice. We are unable to send an email with an attached file. Can it be done? We receive the following error message: -- Your mail to 'NAPHAstaff' with the subject Test - Please Ignore Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Message body is too big: 199200 bytes with a limit of 40 KB Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: http://napha.org/mailman/confirm/naphastaff_napha.org/b7f39d43b11e01add9b6a9ebf5843825089d8562 Again, thank you for your comments -- Outgoing mail is Virus Scanned byNorman Data Defense.Inbound Spam reduced 98.2% byVircom Sieve. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email
I am having trouble figuring why when a message from a non-member sent to my lists does not immediately bounce back to the sender saying, You are not a member. Also, I have a lot of held messages in qfiles/*/* and data/*. How can I manually process those? Thanks, LDB -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails With Attachments
In a flurry of recycled electrons, Marlowe McClasky wrote: We are unable to send an email with an attached file. Can it be done? Make the attachment smaller than 40k. (Or better, put the file on a web site and send the URL.) We receive the following error message: -- Your mail to 'NAPHAstaff' with the subject Test - Please Ignore Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Message body is too big: 199200 bytes with a limit of 40 KB Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: http://napha.org/mailman/confirm/naphastaff_napha.org/b7f39d43b11e01add9b6a9ebf5843825089d8562 z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails With Attachments
Marlowe McClasky wrote: We are unable to send an email with an attached file. Can it be done? We receive the following error message: -- Your mail to 'NAPHAstaff' with the subject Test - Please Ignore Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Message body is too big: 199200 bytes with a limit of 40 KB snip If you are the list owner or moderator, you can approve the message, however depending on the list's Content Filtering settings, the attachment may be removed. If you are the list owner, you can raise max_message_size from its current value of 40 to anything you like. If you are not the list owner, you need to communicate with her/him about this. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email
Lawrence Bowie wrote: I am having trouble figuring why when a message from a non-member sent to my lists does not immediately bounce back to the sender saying, You are not a member. If that's what you want, you need to set Privacy options...-Sender filters-generic_nonmember_action) to Reject. Also, I have a lot of held messages in qfiles/*/* and data/*. How can I manually process those? The data/heldmsg-list_name-*.pck files are messages for list_name that are waiting moderator approval. Go to the list's admindb page and accept/reject/discard them as appropriate. In which qfiles/ directory do you find messages. Other than messages currently in process, there should only be messages in qfiles/shunt/ and maybe qfiles/retry/. If there are old messages in other queues, not all your qrunners are running. Messages in the retry queue are failed deliveries that will be periodically retried until DELIVERY_RETRY_PERIOD (default 5 days) elapses. if there are messages older than that, RetryRunner isn't running. Messages in the shunt queue were placed there because of some error which will have been logged in the 'error' log. They can be reprocessed with bin/unshunt, but if the underlying error hasn't been addressed, they will just be shunted again. Also bin/dumpdb and bin/show_qfiles are useful for looking at these files. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email
Mark Sapiro wrote: Lawrence Bowie wrote: I am having trouble figuring why when a message from a non-member sent to my lists does not immediately bounce back to the sender saying, You are not a member. If that's what you want, you need to set Privacy options...-Sender filters-generic_nonmember_action) to Reject. Does not work? I was hoping there was something I was missing but apparently not. I do not receive the reject messag until about 4 or 6 hours later. Which is what led into the below question. Also, I have a lot of held messages in qfiles/*/* and data/*. How can I manually process those? The data/heldmsg-list_name-*.pck files are messages for list_name that are waiting moderator approval. Go to the list's admindb page and accept/reject/discard them as appropriate. In which qfiles/ directory do you find messages. Other than messages currently in process, there should only be messages in qfiles/shunt/ and maybe qfiles/retry/. If there are old messages in other queues, not all your qrunners are running. Messages in the retry queue are failed deliveries that will be periodically retried until DELIVERY_RETRY_PERIOD (default 5 days) elapses. if there are messages older than that, RetryRunner isn't running. Messages in the shunt queue were placed there because of some error which will have been logged in the 'error' log. They can be reprocessed with bin/unshunt, but if the underlying error hasn't been addressed, they will just be shunted again. Also bin/dumpdb and bin/show_qfiles are useful for looking at these files. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email
Lawrence Bowie wrote: If that's what you want, you need to set Privacy options...-Sender filters-generic_nonmember_action) to Reject. Does not work? I was hoping there was something I was missing but apparently not. I do not receive the reject messag until about 4 or 6 hours later. Which is what led into the below question. So it actually does work, but you have a problem with delayed deliveries. This is probably not a Mailman issue per se, but looking into the qfiles/ entries may indicate a Mailman problem. Otherwise, this may be a Mailman/MTA integration issue or it may be strictly in the outgoing MTA or beyond. Does your outgoing mail go through your ISP and if so, does the ISP limit outgoing mail somehow? Note that this can be the case even if you have your own outgoing MTA. Some ISPs intercept ALL port 25 connects and route them through their own server. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Password
Hello -- Recently our web master took off without leaving any passwords behind (what a mess!). In any case, I am trying to learn mailman, and just realized that I have no idea what our list administrator password is. I've tried all kinds of things, none works. How do I find out or change it? Thanks again in advance, Marlowe Futrell National Amusement Park Historical Association www.napha.org Outgoing mail is Virus Scanned byNorman Data Defense.Inbound Spam reduced 98.2% byVircom Sieve. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Issues with replaced characters/newlines inmailmanlists
On Feb 3, 2006, at 5:10 PM, Matt Zorzin wrote: This is an exact copy and paste of an affected subject, with info obfuscated but of an identical length to the original information: Subject: [Suspect List XX] 11-11: Subject of emails coming from mailing lists with ? between words Our mail clients all run through AVG Enterprise antivirus. One interesting note is that it seems that many posts from this very list (mailman-users) are exhibiting the same symptoms; i'm getting the nonprintable characters in Mozilla, and a 'view source' shows a newline in the subject. We ran into a similar issue here. It turned out that some virus- scanning MTA was incorrectly handling the folding of long headers. (Where long was greater than about 70 characters or so.) You can try isolating the problem by connecting (via telnet) to the SMTP port of the various MTAs in the delivery path, and manually typing in messages with long header lines. In our case: A long test header: Reply-to: A very long real name. 0123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789 0123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789@ 0123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789.0 123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789 After passing through the virus scanning system: Reply-To: A very long real name. 01234567890123456789012345678901234567890 12345678901234567890123456789 0123456789012345678901234567890123456789012.345678901234567890123456789 @01234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456.78901234567890123456789 . 012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890.1234567890123456789 Note the insertion of an extra space in the real name portion of the address, and the insertion of extra dots in the address portion. Perhaps something similar is happening at your site. -- Matt Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Password
Marlowe McClasky wrote: Hello -- Recently our web master took off without leaving any passwords behind (what a mess!). In any case, I am trying to learn mailman, and just realized that I have no idea what our list administrator password is. I've tried all kinds of things, none works. How do I find out or change it? Thanks again in advance, Marlowe Futrell Assuming you have shell access to the mailman userid, you want to look at the mmsitepass program. # /usr/local/mailman/bin/mmsitepass --help Set the site password, prompting from the terminal. The site password can be used in most if not all places that the list administrator's password can be used, which in turn can be used in most places that a list users password can be used. Usage: /usr/local/mailman/bin/mmsitepass [options] [password] Options: -c/--listcreator Set the list creator password instead of the site password. The list creator is authorized to create and remove lists, but does not have the total power of the site administrator. -h/--help Print this help message and exit. If password is not given on the command line, it will be prompted for. # -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 512-248-2683 E-Mail: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 430 Valona Loop, Round Rock, TX 78681-3893 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Password
Marlowe McClasky wrote: Recently our web master took off without leaving any passwords behind (what a mess!). In any case, I am trying to learn mailman, and just realized that I have no idea what our list administrator password is. I've tried all kinds of things, none works. How do I find out or change it? If this is your own Mailman installation, use bin/mmsitepass to set a new site password and then use the site password to access the list admin interface and set new list passwords. If this is an externally hosted Mailman, you'll need to get the host to set new list passwords for you. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual Servers
Many thanks for your help, which has precipitated
progress. I am now able to see the appropriate lists
when accessing the system via the appropriate domain.
Thus www.domain1.org/mailman/admin leads to the
domain1 lists, and www.domain2.org/mailman/admin leads
to the domain2 lists. All to the good.
However, I now find that sending a message to the list
on domain2 leads to copies being sent out to a local
user, but not to any users outside my network. This
looks like an MTA issue, and so I'm sure I should have
fixed things slightly differently in postfix. Further
comments below:
The question is, what do I need to do next in
postfix/mailman to make the two work together?
1 - Do I need to edit /etc/postfix/virtual?
I'm not really familiar with Postfix, but see
http://www.list.org/mailman-install/postfix-virtual.html
and the
other material in that section of the manual.
The trouble is, this is the documentation I don't
understand! Can anyone help? Specifically, having
set up domain2 as a virtual domain in postfix, what do
I need to do to allow mailman to use this? I suspect
the /etc/postfix/virtual will need editing (do aliases
need moving from /etc/aliases for this?) but am not
sure.
2 - What changes do I need to make to mailman?
In mm_cfg.py you need to set/add the following (see
Defaults.py for
documentation)
MTA = Postfix
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS
add_virtualhost('url_hostname', 'email_hostname')
If the Defaults.py settings
POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postalias'
POSTFIX_MAP_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postmap'
aren't correct, override them in mm_cfg.py
Got it... FYI, the MTA=Postfix threw up an error,
but all went well without this line.
3 - Do I need to make any changes to httpd.conf or
other apache config files? (note that I can access
the
mailman admin interface via domain1/mailman/admin
and
also domain2/mailman/admin, but at present the list
of
email lists only shows up via domain1/mailman/admin)
Perhaps you are OK as is with apache then. If you
put the
add_virtualhost() in mm_cfg.py and run fix_url to
set the domain2 list
to 'domain2', that list should 'move to' the domain2
listinfo and
admin overview pages.
Thanks,
Jon
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[Mailman-Users] majordomo mailinglist migration to mailman
Hi there, I need to migrate mailing list from majordomo to mailman. I didn't see any instructions to do this, what are the steps? If I copy the mailing list from majordomo to mailman at the following location: /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/ This does not work. Any feedback would be much appreciated. Thank you. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual Servers
Jon Loose wrote: However, I now find that sending a message to the list on domain2 leads to copies being sent out to a local user, but not to any users outside my network. This looks like an MTA issue, and so I'm sure I should have fixed things slightly differently in postfix. Further comments below: This sounds like Postfix thinks that domain2 is not local and it is refusing to relay from domain2 to the outside. I'm not really familiar with Postfix, but see http://www.list.org/mailman-install/postfix-virtual.html and the other material in that section of the manual. The trouble is, this is the documentation I don't understand! Can anyone help? Specifically, having set up domain2 as a virtual domain in postfix, what do I need to do to allow mailman to use this? I suspect the /etc/postfix/virtual will need editing (do aliases need moving from /etc/aliases for this?) but am not sure. This has to do primarily with setting up Postfix so that incoming mail to the various list and list-* addresses at domain1 and domain2 are all properly delivered to Mailman. I don't think anything special needs to be done to accommodate outgoing mail from Mailman as long as both domain1 and domain2 can send mail at all. MTA = Postfix snip Got it... FYI, the MTA=Postfix threw up an error, but all went well without this line. My fault. It needs to be MTA = 'Postfix' So that bin/genaliases and list creation and deletion can automatically update the Mailman aliases and virtual maps files for Postfix. Mailman creates/updates the data/aliases and data/virtual-mailman files and the postalias and postmap commands update the corresponding .db files. The aliases and virtual-mailman files are referenced in the Postfix configuration in alias_maps and virtual_alias_maps as shown in the manual. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] majordomo mailinglist migration to mailman
Jana Nguyen wrote: I need to migrate mailing list from majordomo to mailman. I didn't see any instructions to do this, what are the steps? There is an old perl script, majordomo2mailman.pl, in the contrib directory in the Mailman distribution that may or may not be helpful. If I copy the mailing list from majordomo to mailman at the following location: /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/ You need somehow to export the majordomo archive as a mbox format file (a flat file with raw messages separated by lines that begin From with email address and date), and then use Mailman's bin/arch tool to build the archive from the mbox. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email
Mark Sapiro wrote: Lawrence Bowie wrote: If that's what you want, you need to set Privacy options...-Sender filters-generic_nonmember_action) to Reject. Does not work? I was hoping there was something I was missing but apparently not. I do not receive the reject messag until about 4 or 6 hours later. Which is what led into the below question. So it actually does work, but you have a problem with delayed deliveries. This is probably not a Mailman issue per se, but looking into the qfiles/ entries may indicate a Mailman problem. Otherwise, this may be a Mailman/MTA integration issue or it may be strictly in the outgoing MTA or beyond. Does your outgoing mail go through your ISP and if so, does the ISP limit outgoing mail somehow? Note that this can be the case even if you have your own outgoing MTA. Some ISPs intercept ALL port 25 connects and route them through their own server. Thank you Mark... I have full control of the MTA and I am using PostFix. I should tell you that ... 1) I do not have bounce processing enabled within Mailman 2) The mailing lists have been migrated from older versions mailman and have been cleaned up. 3) When typing, mailq, on the server, it does not list the corresponding held messages. These are message Mailman has in its qfiles that PostFix does not know about. Thanks .. LDB -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email
Lawrence Bowie wrote: 3) When typing, mailq, on the server, it does not list the corresponding held messages. These are message Mailman has in its qfiles that PostFix does not know about. In which qfiles? If it is qfiles/retry/*, then the message has been queued for retry because the original MTA delivery attempt resulted in a transient error. The reason is logged in Mailman's smtp-failure log. If it is some other queue, that that queue's runner is not doing its job. Have you set QRUNNER_SLEEP_TIME in mm_cfg.py to some large value? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email
In a flurry of recycled electrons, Mark Sapiro wrote: Lawrence Bowie wrote: 3) When typing, mailq, on the server, it does not list the corresponding held messages. These are message Mailman has in its qfiles that PostFix does not know about. In which qfiles? If it is qfiles/retry/*, then the message has been queued for retry because the original MTA delivery attempt resulted in a transient error. The reason is logged in Mailman's smtp-failure log. The command 'mailq' usually lists -sendmail-'s queue. Postfix uses the postqueue command, and AFAIK mailman doesn't have a command at all. z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + apache2
How are you configuring Apache to understand that a URL like http://www.example.com/mailman/listinfo for example is supposed to execute the Cgi program whose (default configuration) location is /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo? The normal way this is done is with ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/ I set in Vhosts_ispconfig.conf (where the virutual hosts are created) ScriptAlias /mailman/ /var/www/web1/cgi-bin/ When I browse now to the URL: http://domain.tld/cgi-bin/mailman/create then I get: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. So, what is wrong? Stefan pgpkbM2zg753Y.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual Servers
Thanks for the correction... MTA='Postfix' works just fine. However, no change in mailing behaviour after making this change and restarting mailman/postfix. I still can't get messages out beyond the local network. Note that up to this point, I have put the aliases for mailman lists in /etc/aliases and have only created lists via command-line interface. Also, I observe that there are no data/aliases or data/virtual-mailman files. Do I need to create these? Thanks, Jon Mark Sapiro said: Jon Loose wrote: However, I now find that sending a message to the list on domain2 leads to copies being sent out to a local user, but not to any users outside my network. This looks like an MTA issue, and so I'm sure I should have fixed things slightly differently in postfix. Further comments below: This sounds like Postfix thinks that domain2 is not local and it is refusing to relay from domain2 to the outside. I'm not really familiar with Postfix, but see http://www.list.org/mailman-install/postfix-virtual.html and the other material in that section of the manual. The trouble is, this is the documentation I don't understand! Can anyone help? Specifically, having set up domain2 as a virtual domain in postfix, what do I need to do to allow mailman to use this? I suspect the /etc/postfix/virtual will need editing (do aliases need moving from /etc/aliases for this?) but am not sure. This has to do primarily with setting up Postfix so that incoming mail to the various list and list-* addresses at domain1 and domain2 are all properly delivered to Mailman. I don't think anything special needs to be done to accommodate outgoing mail from Mailman as long as both domain1 and domain2 can send mail at all. MTA = Postfix snip Got it... FYI, the MTA=Postfix threw up an error, but all went well without this line. My fault. It needs to be MTA = 'Postfix' So that bin/genaliases and list creation and deletion can automatically update the Mailman aliases and virtual maps files for Postfix. Mailman creates/updates the data/aliases and data/virtual-mailman files and the postalias and postmap commands update the corresponding .db files. The aliases and virtual-mailman files are referenced in the Postfix configuration in alias_maps and virtual_alias_maps as shown in the manual. ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + apache2
Stefan Fuhrmann wrote: When I browse now to the URL: http://domain.tld/cgi-bin/mailman/create then I get: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. So, what is wrong? Find the above error in Mailman's error log and if it is not self explanitory, post the complete error and traceback here and we'll help you decipher it. BTW, I'm not sure why you have the 'cgi-bin/' in the above URL, Normally, if the ScriptAlias says '/mailman/' the URL uould just be http://domain.tld/mailman/create -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual Servers - Correction
Brief correction to my previous message... I do now have data/aliases, though not data/virtual-mailman. Hope this helps, Thanks, Jon ___ NEW Yahoo! Cars - sell your car and browse thousands of new and used cars online! http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual Servers
Jon Loose wrote: Thanks for the correction... MTA='Postfix' works just fine. However, no change in mailing behaviour after making this change and restarting mailman/postfix. I still can't get messages out beyond the local network. As I said before, I think this is strictly Postfix, not Mailman or Mailman-Postfix integration. I think Postfix is not relaying mail from domain2 to the outside world. I don't know enough Postfix to suggest what might need to be done to correct this. Note that up to this point, I have put the aliases for mailman lists in /etc/aliases and have only created lists via command-line interface. Also, I observe that there are no data/aliases or data/virtual-mailman files. Do I need to create these? Since you haven't had MTA = 'Postfix', you've been using the default MTA = 'Manual' which just tells you what the aliases are and asks you to manually install them. If you now run bin/genaliases, it should create the data/aliases and data/virtual-mailman files containing data for all your lists, and run the postalias and postmap commands to create the .db files. Then you can update your Postfix config to use these files and not have to do the aliases manually in the future. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Carl Zwanzig wrote: The command 'mailq' usually lists -sendmail-'s queue. Postfix uses the postqueue command, and AFAIK mailman doesn't have a command at all. Postfix is very sendmail compatible and it does install a mailq command - at least on the installations I have done over the years. Mailman has bin/show_qfiles to 'Show the contents of one or more Mailman queue files.' - -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp == Learning is something students do, NOT something done to students -- Alfie Kohn -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. iG0EARECAC0FAkPoBswmGGh0dHA6Ly93d3cucG9ib3guY29tL350bXovcGdwL3Rt ei5hc2MACgkQuv+09NZUB1oWMgCeKatZuwwoeBdWMksxr0AGQnAFPKcAn06RYg7V nW4KA78Y/8uMypG6Ud/m =m3v0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email
Mark Sapiro wrote: Lawrence Bowie wrote: 3) When typing, mailq, on the server, it does not list the corresponding held messages. These are message Mailman has in its qfiles that PostFix does not know about. In which qfiles? If it is qfiles/retry/*, then the message has been queued for retry because the original MTA delivery attempt resulted in a transient error. The reason is logged in Mailman's smtp-failure log. If it is some other queue, that that queue's runner is not doing its job. Have you set QRUNNER_SLEEP_TIME in mm_cfg.py to some large value? No, that has been modified. LDB -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email
Lawrence Bowie wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: Lawrence Bowie wrote: These are message Mailman has in its qfiles that PostFix does not know about. In which qfiles? If it is qfiles/retry/*, then the message has been queued for retry because the original MTA delivery attempt resulted in a transient error. The reason is logged in Mailman's smtp-failure log. If it is some other queue, that that queue's runner is not doing its job. Have you set QRUNNER_SLEEP_TIME in mm_cfg.py to some large value? No, that has been modified. So let's see if I get the situation. A nonmember send a post to a list. A reject message is generated and is queued within Mailman and takes several hours to be delivered, meanwhile it sits in some queue in mailman. Is that correct? In which queue do you find it? Are there any relevant messages in any of Mailman's logs, particularly 'locks', 'qrunner', 'error' and 'smtp-failure'? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Weirdness
Mark Sapiro wrote: Lawrence Bowie I have not tried the above but it is asking for confirmation because the posts are from legitimate automatic engines that send email. The list does not know how to distinguish between SPAM and a legitimate automatic post. Any ideas on resolving this dilemma? Posts which are held because of being from a non-member are only held based on the calculated 'sender' of the message which in turn is based on only a few message headers which all looked OK in your sample message. I can understand your reluctance to patch the code, but at least look in the 'vette' log and see what the entry there reports as the sender of the held post. In the vette log, I am seeing these messages from the automatic posts ... Feb 06 06:13:14 2006 (17698) mail-list post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Message has implicit destination -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email
Mark Sapiro wrote: Lawrence Bowie wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: Lawrence Bowie wrote: These are message Mailman has in its qfiles that PostFix does not know about. In which qfiles? If it is qfiles/retry/*, then the message has been queued for retry because the original MTA delivery attempt resulted in a transient error. The reason is logged in Mailman's smtp-failure log. If it is some other queue, that that queue's runner is not doing its job. Have you set QRUNNER_SLEEP_TIME in mm_cfg.py to some large value? No, that has been modified. So let's see if I get the situation. A nonmember send a post to a list. A reject message is generated and is queued within Mailman and takes several hours to be delivered, meanwhile it sits in some queue in mailman. Is that correct? Yes, that is correct. In which queue do you find it? the out queue Are there any relevant messages in any of Mailman's logs, particularly 'locks', 'qrunner', 'error' and 'smtp-failure'? Nothing good in qrunner, locks or error. smtp-failure has legitimate failures of domain not found or rejected remote delivery (due to non-existent recipient) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Weirdness
Lawrence Bowie wrote: In the vette log, I am seeing these messages from the automatic posts ... Feb 06 06:13:14 2006 (17698) mail-list post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Message has implicit destination So the post is held because the list posting address is not in a To: or Cc: header of the post, not because [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not a member. If you want these posts to go to the list without being held for moderator approval, here are your choices. 1)Arrange for the automated sender to put the list posting address in a To: or Cc: header in the message, or 2)go to the list's Privacy options...-Recipient filters page and either set require_explicit_destination to No or add the actual To: address of the message or a regular expression that matches it to acceptable_aliases. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email
Lawrence Bowie wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: In which queue do you find it? the out queue Are there any relevant messages in any of Mailman's logs, particularly 'locks', 'qrunner', 'error' and 'smtp-failure'? Nothing good in qrunner, locks or error. smtp-failure has legitimate failures of domain not found or rejected remote delivery (due to non-existent recipient) So are there multiple messages in the out queue? Is there a backlog? Does the 'smtp' log indicate that processing is going as fast as it can, i.e. for sequential entries in the 'smtp' log is the time between the time stamp of one entry and that of the next roughly equal to the processing time in the first entry? And, do these times seem long. See the 'performance' related FAQ entries. These may be out of date (6.6 in particular), but 4.11 and 6.4 may be useful. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email
Mark Sapiro wrote: Lawrence Bowie wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: In which queue do you find it? the out queue Are there any relevant messages in any of Mailman's logs, particularly 'locks', 'qrunner', 'error' and 'smtp-failure'? Nothing good in qrunner, locks or error. smtp-failure has legitimate failures of domain not found or rejected remote delivery (due to non-existent recipient) So are there multiple messages in the out queue? Is there a backlog? Does the 'smtp' log indicate that processing is going as fast as it can, i.e. for sequential entries in the 'smtp' log is the time between the time stamp of one entry and that of the next roughly equal to the processing time in the first entry? And, do these times seem long. See the 'performance' related FAQ entries. These may be out of date (6.6 in particular), but 4.11 and 6.4 may be useful. Here is a recent post to a test list and it NEVER hit my mail server as reject. It never even hit the postfix mailq. --===0209451863==-- qfiles/out/1139292738.257997+63ebc154352008cb297bd321d3651ab6f813ff18.pck Subject: test is From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary0562359899== Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 22:12:18 -0800 Precedence: bulk X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 List-Id: test-list.lists.mydomain.org X-List-Administrivia: yes --===0562359899== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has been automatically rejected. If you think that your messages are being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] --===0562359899== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.mydomain.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7692A678114 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 6 Feb 2006 22:12:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.mydomain.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (lists.mydomain.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09593-02 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 6 Feb 2006 22:12:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by lists.mydomain.org (Postfix, from userid 1005) id 4FD33678118; Mon, 6 Feb 2006 22:12:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from master.otherdomain.org (v757223.fromhere.com [xxx.xxx.xx.xxx]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.mydomain.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD97A678114 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 6 Feb 2006 22:12:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by master.otherdomain.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3BF46890D for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 7 Feb 2006 00:12:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from master.otherdomain.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (master.ldb-jab.org [209.135.157.157]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18443-08 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 7 Feb 2006 00:12:13 -0600 (CST) Received: by master.otherdomain.org (Postfix, from userid 51) id 978E0469253; Tue, 7 Feb 2006 00:12:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from [10.3.3.7] (pool-70-105-21-105.rich.east.verizon.net [70.105.21.105]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by master.otherdomain.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0467946890D for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 7 Feb 2006 00:12:11 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 01:13:07 -0500 From: LDB [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050715) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: test is Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ldb-jab.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on lists.mydomain.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.0.3 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at lists.mydomain.org sd --===0562359899==-- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy:
Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email
Mark Sapiro wrote: Lawrence Bowie wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: In which queue do you find it? the out queue Are there any relevant messages in any of Mailman's logs, particularly 'locks', 'qrunner', 'error' and 'smtp-failure'? Nothing good in qrunner, locks or error. smtp-failure has legitimate failures of domain not found or rejected remote delivery (due to non-existent recipient) So are there multiple messages in the out queue? Is there a backlog? Does the 'smtp' log indicate that processing is going as fast as it can, i.e. for sequential entries in the 'smtp' log is the time between the time stamp of one entry and that of the next roughly equal to the processing time in the first entry? And, do these times seem long. nothing in the mailq at all for postfix. no backlog at all. Hardly anything is running this time of night. The mail and list server are two different servers. See the 'performance' related FAQ entries. These may be out of date (6.6 in particular), but 4.11 and 6.4 may be useful. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email
Mark Sapiro wrote: Lawrence Bowie wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: In which queue do you find it? the out queue Are there any relevant messages in any of Mailman's logs, particularly 'locks', 'qrunner', 'error' and 'smtp-failure'? Nothing good in qrunner, locks or error. smtp-failure has legitimate failures of domain not found or rejected remote delivery (due to non-existent recipient) So are there multiple messages in the out queue? Is there a backlog? Does the 'smtp' log indicate that processing is going as fast as it can, i.e. for sequential entries in the 'smtp' log is the time between the time stamp of one entry and that of the next roughly equal to the processing time in the first entry? And, do these times seem long. See the 'performance' related FAQ entries. These may be out of date (6.6 in particular), but 4.11 and 6.4 may be useful. It just flushed like you crazy!! I changed my SMTP port in Mailman from the default to 10025 (for amavisd). That was the only real change. I hope that did it ... LDB -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Weirdness
Mark Sapiro wrote: Lawrence Bowie wrote: In the vette log, I am seeing these messages from the automatic posts ... Feb 06 06:13:14 2006 (17698) mail-list post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Message has implicit destination So the post is held because the list posting address is not in a To: or Cc: header of the post, not because [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not a member. If you want these posts to go to the list without being held for moderator approval, here are your choices. 1)Arrange for the automated sender to put the list posting address in a To: or Cc: header in the message, or 2)go to the list's Privacy options...-Recipient filters page and either set require_explicit_destination to No or add the actual To: address of the message or a regular expression that matches it to acceptable_aliases. Perfect .. Thank you sir .. LDB -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
