[Mailman-Users] Change the confirmtion request text and automated invitations
Hi, I would like to automatically invite every new user of our computing center to our mailing list. But I need an adapted text for the invitation/confirmation request. This is, to decrease the possibility that this e-Mail might be considered an spam by the receiver. * Is it possible to adapt the invitation text We have received a request from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx for subscription of your mailing list... to the actual list? * In the Admin-Section, there is the chance to invite a list of users wit a personalized text. Is this option somehow available via the email interface? Thank You Ulf -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] disappearing CC lines
hi i have some problems with a mailman list. if i send from user A, to list L, and CC to B and C (where A,B,C are list members on the same list), the mail i got back from the list (to user A) is missing a CC address. i mean when i look at the message (using firefox) there is only one user (B) in the CC list, the other one is gone. i don't know why this is. could somebody help me out? i tried to send the same mail to another address too (like yahoo), with CC, and it appears alright. so i don't think it's my MTA. MTA: postfix-2.2.2, mailman: 2.1.5, distrib: Fedora Core 2 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] No mail from list (was: Stupid Newby Setup question)
Mark Sapiro wrote: PC At Last wrote: It used to work. Then the server died. Then the backup got corrupted by the clutz rebuilding the server. Then we had to start from scratch. Now I have three mailing lists that just won't work - test messages vanish into the ether - no bounce, no notification, no delivery, no nothing. I'm at my wits end, and have invested way too much of my life in this. Can someone point me to a template, or a simple point by point how to make this simple configuration work. At this point, I'm happy to nuke everything and start with default settings again... If you set up a simple, default, test list, does that work. If so, see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.011.htp. If not, see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp Thanks for the links Mark. They have helped tie down exactly what is (or isn't as the case may be) going on. I have deleted all lists, and created a brand new one, making minimal alterations to default values - (ie. set smtp server name, set descriptive rejection notice for all moderated posts, and subscribed an address in each of the four mail servers I have access to - just to eliminate pop3 or spam filtering issues). Before I set the reject moderated posts flag, I DID get a reply to the originating address stating held for moderation. And after accepting the post in moderation tasks, the post DID go to all four addresses subscribed. After I set the reject moderated posts flag, I DID NOT get anything at all from anywhere or to anywhere. Not even the rejected notice I had added to try and track which part of the system rejected the post. The test post just vanished into the ether. Unfortunately, most of the testing suggestions in your second link, I can't get to, as my mailman install is part of a CPanel hosting package and I don't have access that far back in the directory tree. Vital Statistics are as follows... Mailman version 2.1.7.cp1 Kernel version 2.4.21-40.ELsmp Apache version 1.3.34 (Unix) PERL version5.8.7 PHP version 4.4.1 MySQL version 4.0.25-standard cPanel Build10.8.2-RELEASE 83 I don't know how much of that is useful, or even relevant, but rather than make a bad call, it was easier to copy and paste the lot. Until I can get messages passing through, I guess there is no point trying to customize it for how it's supposed to work. I figure I have a reasonable handle on that part anyway - just couldn't find what I had done to kill it first time round - maybe nothing? Thanks again for help so far. Any further suggestions more than welcome... Regards, Glen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] No mail from list (was: Stupid Newby Setup question)
At 10:53 PM +0930 2006-05-18, PC At Last wrote: Mailman version 2.1.7.cp1 Kernel version 2.4.21-40.ELsmp Apache version 1.3.34 (Unix) PERL version 5.8.7 PHP version 4.4.1 MySQL version4.0.25-standard cPanel Build 10.8.2-RELEASE 83 See FAQ 6.11 at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq06.011.htp. In short, you need to work with your cPanel hosting provider and use the cPanel public support forums, because there's all sorts of changes that they've made to the code base which they have not informed us of, and our ability to provide support is very limited. We'll try to provide what help we can, but since you're using a commercially modified version of Mailman, you really should be getting all your support through the organizations that provide that commercial product to their customers, or the vendor of the product. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member since December 2005. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Sendmail debugging questions
I looked at the links that you gave me and learned a few things about debugging. However, I have still been unsuccessful. I think the main problem is that our configuration is quite complex and I am quite green at all of this stuff. We accept email from the internet (addressed to domain.gov) on machine A which has Sun Messenger 6.2 installed (MTA). If the mail if for a regular user the mail is stored on machine B (Sun Messenger 6.2 mailstore mailboxes). The Messenger is integrated with an LDAP server on machine C. I have added LDAP entries for testlist, testlist-owner, testlist-subscribe, etc. I set all of these entries to use machine D as their mailhost. Machine D has Mailman and Sendmail running on it. All of the internal machines (A, B, C, D, etc.) actually belong to domainpriv.gov, not domain.gov. The email addresses to [EMAIL PROTECTED] hits machine A and gets redirected to machine D. However, we have Sendmail on machine D set up to send and email that it d! oes not recognize back to the MTA machine (A). Thus, the message is redirected back to the MTA without hitting Mailman. I have added the aliases in the /etc/aliases file (i.e. testlist: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post testlist) and even have added entries in the virtualusertable (i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] testlist). I added a single entry to the mailertable (domain.com mailhost:localhost.domainpriv.com). I test sendmail: echo From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test test mail body | /usr/lib/sendmail -f [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] I get no response in the Mailman logs/smtp log. I get no errors in the /var/log/maillog. I test mm-handler: echo From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test test mail body | /etc/mail/mm-handler localhost.domainpriv.gov -r [EMAIL PROTECTED] testlist I receive: to: testlist sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] server: localhost.domainpriv.gov I get no response in the Mailman logs/smtp log. I get no errors in the /var/log/maillog. Help the ignorant. From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 5/17/2006 10:33 AM To: Daniel, Barry K.; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Sendmail debugging questions Daniel, Barry K. wrote: I have two problems. First, if I create a new list via command line I cannot edit it via the web interface. I execute the command line as the mailman user and the web is executed as the webservd user. I have placed the webservd user in the mailman group in my /etc/group file but I still can not add users to the list via the web interface. The lists/testlist/config.pck file changes date but the information does not change. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.045.htp Second problem. If I send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the Sun JES Messenger it traverses to the Mailman machine but an email addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is sent back to the Messenger machine. (This is from looking at the Sendmail logs.) Shouldn't it be sending back several emails, one addressed to each member of the list? How do I debug this? Can you see what this mail says? See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest not sent (was: Announce-list only.)
Thus spake Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED], circa 5/17/2006 6:50 PM: The lists/listname/digest.mbox file for the affected list contains a malformed message from which an attempt to extract the attachment filename throws the exception. Many thanks to Mark for the help, and for fixing the subject line in my message to the list. Mea culpa! If anyone is interested, the first message in the file digest.mbox contained a malformed filename line. Instead of name=xxx it read name*0=xxx. Once I removed the *0 I was able to generate a digest and mail started flowing again. peter -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] PGP keys causing problems
It seems that adding the filter_types has one effect. When the list subscribers get a message that has been PGP signed, the signature is no longer valid. When a patch is submitted (for developers) it is stripped from the message that is posted to one list and the entire message with the patch is then forwarded to another list (for the actual patches). When one particular patch was submitted, it seems that the characters are being converted to either unicode or ascii. i.e. is now =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D etc, etc, for several more lines. this is in the mbox for the patches list. also there are miscellaneous characters tossed in there (just for good measure I suppose :) ) static int ShowStaticPage (const cGH *GH, httpRequest *request, void *u= nused); 494c496 (from the mbox) One possibility for the character munging perhaps is the email client the submitter uses. One person is using thunderbird and the other is using the default Mail client on Mac OS X. the mac submitter patches at least arrive in the mbox correctly without munging. Hope that helps. Thank you, Jeff D On 5/17/06, Todd Zullinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Sapiro wrote: Todd Zullinger wrote: [...] Around line 300 in Handlers.Scrubber, the comments say: # All parts should be scrubbed to text/plain by now. and then a simple test for a non text/plain ctype is made, replacing it with the Skipped content text from above. Somewhere before that, shouldn't the multipart/mixed message part have been handled? Yup. Something is wrong here. Maybe in Scrubber, Maybe in Python's email parser. I probably won't have time to look at this in detail until Friday, but I will. Can you send me a copy of your test message off list? Thanks. Will do. And thank you. - -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp == The human race divides itself politically into those who want to be controlled, and those who have no such desire. -- Robert A. Heinlein -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. iG0EARECAC0FAkRrzNsmGGh0dHA6Ly93d3cucG9ib3guY29tL350bXovcGdwL3Rt ei5hc2MACgkQuv+09NZUB1o98gCeMYdZKBzLa0HnOr2ZIyAwCNZ1kSkAoMNNTpyw fSwV7UNIF7PNSmUyKU7T =8X0l -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jdereus%40gmail.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman and dynamic DNS redirect
A very basic question that I haven't found the answer to -- (and I've looked) -- can Mailman run using a dynamic DNS redirect or does it have to have a static IP address for reverse DNS? I'm wanting to run three small low-volume lists. Thanks Steve R OS X 10.4.6 DynDNS redirect (free account that would be upgraded if need be) DSL connection -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] mailman + exim, no mail to owners
I've just switched over from sendmail to exim because of how well it (supposedly) works with mailman, but now none of my owner posts are going through...thus owners are not getting their notifications of pending posts, etc. It's happening for all my lists. This is what's in the mailman logs: May 18 11:43:51 2006 (1956) post to escml.field.all from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=5185, message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 2 failures And there is nothing in the exim log. Since the message are getting to mailman, I don't think it's a problem with exim delivering the message to mailman, but there seems to be some error in processing the data. They just keep sitting in the retry queue. I'm not sure what to try next, please advise. -- Anne Ramey NCMail 850-2762 __ NOTICE: E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + exim, no mail to owners
On 5/18/06 9:26 AM, Anne Ramey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just switched over from sendmail to exim because of how well it (supposedly) works with mailman, but now none of my owner posts are going through...thus owners are not getting their notifications of pending posts, etc. It's happening for all my lists. This is what's in the mailman logs: May 18 11:43:51 2006 (1956) post to escml.field.all from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=5185, message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 2 failures And there is nothing in the exim log. Since the message are getting to mailman, I don't think it's a problem with exim delivering the message to mailman, but there seems to be some error in processing the data. They just keep sitting in the retry queue. I'm not sure what to try next, please advise. If you mean there is nothing in the Exim log literally, then either you've turned off all logging in Exim--I'm not sure that's possible--or you're looking in the wrong place for the Exim log. At the least, there should be evidence of the message being delivered to Mailman. If you mean there is nothing in the Exim log related to the messages Mailman should be sending, then my best guess would be that Exim is not accepting port 25 connections from localhost (assuming Exim on the same machine). You could try, on the Mailman machine, telnet localhost 25 That should be rejected, timed out, or responded to with Exim's banner. If you get a banner, next issue the quit command. Let us on the list know what happens, and we'll have a chance to work through this further. --John (whose list address will shortly change to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + exim, no mail to owners
Anne Ramey wrote: I've just switched over from sendmail to exim because of how well it (supposedly) works with mailman, but now none of my owner posts are going through...thus owners are not getting their notifications of pending posts, etc. It's happening for all my lists. This is what's in the mailman logs: May 18 11:43:51 2006 (1956) post to escml.field.all from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=5185, message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 2 failures And there is nothing in the exim log. Since the message are getting to mailman, I don't think it's a problem with exim delivering the message to mailman, but there seems to be some error in processing the data. They just keep sitting in the retry queue. I'm not sure what to try next, please advise. Let me add that the main mailman messages are going through fine, and I see those sent in the exim logs, it is just these owner posts that don't show up in the logs. Yes, it appears that exim is configured correctly, and like I said, the mail is getting to mailman to be posted to the owner fine, it's mailman that doesn't seem to be able to handle it. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + exim, no mail to owners
Let me try again, hopefully I'll be more clear this time: I've just switched over from sendmail to exim because of how well it (supposedly) works with mailman, but now none of my owner posts are going through...thus owners are not getting their notifications of pending posts, etc. Let me mention here that messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and [EMAIL PROTECTED] seem to be going through without trouble. People can submit (un)subscribes and post messages to the lists fine. It's just the owner messages that are not going out. It's happening for all my lists. This is what's in the mailman logs: May 18 11:43:51 2006 (1956) post to listname from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=5185, message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 2 failures And there is nothing about these messages in the exim log, but I can of course see the posts and request messages fine in the exim logs, since they go to their destinations. Since the message are getting to mailman, I don't think it's a problem with exim delivering the message to mailman, but there seems to be some error in processing the data--the number of failures listed is always the number of owners for that list. They just keep sitting in the retry queue. I'm not sure what to try next, please advise. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + exim, no mail to owners
On 5/18/06 10:24 AM, Anne Ramey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anne Ramey wrote: I've just switched over from sendmail to exim because of how well it (supposedly) works with mailman, but now none of my owner posts are going through...thus owners are not getting their notifications of pending posts, etc. It's happening for all my lists. This is what's in the mailman logs: May 18 11:43:51 2006 (1956) post to escml.field.all from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=5185, message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 2 failures And there is nothing in the exim log. Since the message are getting to mailman, I don't think it's a problem with exim delivering the message to mailman, but there seems to be some error in processing the data. They just keep sitting in the retry queue. I'm not sure what to try next, please advise. Let me add that the main mailman messages are going through fine, and I see those sent in the exim logs, it is just these owner posts that don't show up in the logs. Yes, it appears that exim is configured correctly, and like I said, the mail is getting to mailman to be posted to the owner fine, it's mailman that doesn't seem to be able to handle it. OK (I really think I should have read that last part into what you wrote first--sorry). At this point, I'm having trouble imagining what is going wrong. I can see a failure if the The list administrator email addresses. box on the General page contains a bare local part, with sendmail having been configured to qualify that and Exim not so configured, but I have trouble coming up with customized Exim logging settings which would totally suppress the logging of the unqualified address error that would result, while letting Exim logging for proper messages happen. And Mailman wouldn't know the difference--it would do what it's always done. The same logging argument would apply to Exim believing it isn't allowed to relay the message to owner to whatever machine that would be a relay to. It's someone else's turn. --John -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] disappearing CC lines
On 5/18/06, Imre Gergely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have some problems with a mailman list. if i send from user A, to list L, and CC to B and C (where A,B,C are list members on the same list), the mail i got back from the list (to user A) is missing a CC address. i mean when i look at the message (using firefox) there is only one user (B) in the CC list, the other one is gone. Is user C a member of list L? Mailman tries to not send duplicates, and it may in fact do this by stripping the address from the CC and sending it as a normal list post. -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Sendmail debugging questions
oes not recognize back to the MTA machine (A). Thus, the message is redirected back to the MTA without hitting Mailman. I have added the aliases in the /etc/aliases file (i.e. testlist: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post testlist) and even have added entries in the virtualusertable (i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] testlist). I added a single entry to the mailertable (domain.com mailhost:localhost.domainpriv.com). Did you rebuild the aliases file and/or restart Sendmail after making these changes? To the messages arrive at Sendmail with an @domain.gov address, or @domainpriv.gov? Is sendmail set to accept whichever one is appropriate as a local delivery address? -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Announce-list only.
Thanks Todd, I tested the method of using the first line with Approved: password. I would like to know how can I use the Header way. I don't know how insert it on the header of the message... []s On 5/17/06, Todd Zullinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fabiano Breves wrote: I need a tip about securing a announce-list. I've setup every user to be moderated and set just one non-member e-mail address to post without moderation but It feels quite insecure. Is there a way to make this e-mail address to use a password ??? Yes. You can add Approved: list admin or moderator password as a header or as the first line in the message. Mailman will check for that and allow the post through even if the address is moderated. The Approved line will be stripped. If you search the FAQ and list archives for Approved:, you will find some examples and more discussion. - -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp == Chemistry is applied theology. -- Augustus Owsley Stanley -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. iG0EARECAC0FAkRrgMAmGGh0dHA6Ly93d3cucG9ib3guY29tL350bXovcGdwL3Rt ei5hc2MACgkQuv+09NZUB1opGgCgnSTb2ylGZdtc4Px831AONYoPlskAn2+mRpar Hu7SDdUT7AqpwWPHAzTs =+RlT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/fabiano.breves%40gmail.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Fabiano de Carvalho Breves [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and dynamic DNS redirect
At 11:11 AM -0400 2006-05-18, Steve R wrote: A very basic question that I haven't found the answer to -- (and I've looked) -- can Mailman run using a dynamic DNS redirect or does it have to have a static IP address for reverse DNS? I'm wanting to run three small low-volume lists. Mailman doesn't care about these sorts of things itself. The MTA (sendmail, postfix, Exim, whatever) will probably care, and the web server (e.g., apache) may care. But Mailman itself doesn't know anything about DNS, nor does it use DNS internally. By the time the messages get to Mailman, all the DNS-related stuff will already have been done by the MTA. By the time the users connect to the Mailman web interface, the web server will have done all the other DNS-related stuff. Mailman will dump outgoing messages on the MTA, which will then care about using DNS to deliver those messages. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member since December 2005. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Announce-list only.
On 5/18/06 11:13 AM, Fabiano Breves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Todd, I tested the method of using the first line with Approved: password. I would like to know how can I use the Header way. I don't know how insert it on the header of the message... I don't see a way to add a header to outgoing mail in Gmail (from which you sent your question). I checked the Settings area and Help. I can understand why it isn't allowed. (Of course, I might have missed something.) If you tell us what other mail programs you could use to send, we would have a chance to help further. --John -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Umbrella lists
After more research it looks like the issue is between our exchange server and mailman. Exchange is holding all emails in a queue and getting error 'The remover server did not respond to a connection attempt.' So far I have not found out why exchange can't connect or what the exact error it is getting when it tries to connect. Has anyone ever had a similar problem? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Sapiro Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 6:10 PM To: Lori Christensen; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Umbrella lists Lori Christensen wrote: We are currently trying to implement mailman lists on our campus. Implementation of normal lists has gone well but when we try to set up an umbrella list it doesn't seem to work. It shows the lists as subscribed to the main list and we've set the privacy options but somewhere we must have something selected or not selected that makes them run properly. Is it possible for you to send a link that would show how both the main list of the umbrella list is set up and also how the sub lists within it are set up? We have a feeling it may be we don't have something chosen correctly. It might be easier if you just told us exactly what happens when a post is sent to the umbrella list and exactly what privacy options you have set. Note the following: A post to the umbrella must come from a member of the umbrella list or someone in accept_these_nonmembers of the umbrella (see http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1220144group_ id=103atid=300103 for a way to include the members of the sub lists) or default_nonmember_action for the umbrella must be accept (or at least not reject or discard). Similar considerations apply to the sub-lists with respect to the address the sub-list will determine sent the post. The umbrella should be in acceptable_aliases of the sub-lists or they should have require_explicit_destination set to No. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/adamski%40graceland .edu Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Announce-list only.
Then you just need to include an 'Approved' header with the value being whichever password you want to use. On 5/18/06, Fabiano Breves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick, The fact is that I have two way of sending messages to this list: One is using the Outlook Express program and other one is using an internal aplication that sends the message in HTML format, and for this one I would like to use de header option, hard coded on the internal application... thanks On 5/18/06, Patrick Bogen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/18/06, Fabiano Breves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tested the method of using the first line with Approved: password. I would like to know how can I use the Header way. I don't know how insert it on the header of the message... This depends on which MUA you're using. Why can't you use the first-line method? It's stripped out when the mail is delivered, anyway. -- - Patrick Bogen -- Fabiano de Carvalho Breves [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] How do I put mailman in debug mode?
My messages aren't being relayed on my test system. I thought it might be a weird permissions problem or something, so I tried this from commandline: cat /tmp/message.txt | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post my-mail-list and nothing came of it. No errors, no nothing. /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman --help and /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman -h doesn't help either. I checked /var/log/messages /var/log/maillog /var/log/mailman/* and I don't see any errors related to my problem. Anyone know how to put this thing in debug mode? I checked the FAQ and google and couldn't find much. - Steve -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + exim, no mail to owners
John W. Baxter wrote: On 5/18/06 10:24 AM, Anne Ramey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anne Ramey wrote: I've just switched over from sendmail to exim because of how well it (supposedly) works with mailman, but now none of my owner posts are going through...thus owners are not getting their notifications of pending posts, etc. It's happening for all my lists. This is what's in the mailman logs: May 18 11:43:51 2006 (1956) post to escml.field.all from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=5185, message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 2 failures And there is nothing in the exim log. I think that's from the 'post' log. There should be a more detailed message in Mailman's 'smtp-failure' log. Mailman sends owner notices in two steps. Step 1 - send it to list-owner. Step 2 - receive the mail to list-owner and resend to the owners. If you look in Mailman's 'smtp' log, you can normally see the two entries for the message-id, the first with 1 recipient and the second with recipients = the number of owners. In your case, it seems to be step 2 that fails. Things that can break step 1 are most likely, the -owner suffix missing from the mailman router in the exim config, but in your case it definitely seems to be step 2 as you said the number of failures listed is always the number of owners for that list. So what's in the 'smtp' and 'smtp-failure' logs? Just guessing, I think exim may not like the envelope sender (SMTP MAIL FROM command) of the owner notice. I think this is [EMAIL PROTECTED] (where mailman is the name of the site list). -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] How do I put mailman in debug mode?
Steve Quezadas wrote: My messages aren't being relayed on my test system. I thought it might be a weird permissions problem or something, so I tried this from commandline: cat /tmp/message.txt | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post my-mail-list and nothing came of it. No errors, no nothing. /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman --help and /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman -h doesn't help either. I checked /var/log/messages /var/log/maillog /var/log/mailman/* and I don't see any errors related to my problem. All that command did (since it didn't issu an error) is put the message in the 'in' queue to be processed by IncomingRunner which I'm guessing isn't running. Anyone know how to put this thing in debug mode? I checked the FAQ and google and couldn't find much. There is no 'debug' mode. Did you start the qrunners (bin/mailmanctl start)? If so, what's in /var/log/mailman/qrunner (assuming that's where the logs really are - check the setting for LOG_DIR in mm_cfg.py). -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Sendmail debugging questions
On 5/18/06, Daniel, Barry K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I did rebuild the aliases file and restart Sendmail. The messages are arriving at the Mailman server with a @domain.gov address, not @domainpriv.gov. How do I ensure that Sendmail is set to accept this as a local delivery address? The Mailman machine is .domainpriv.gov. There are a couple of ways to do this with sendmail. If you have mailertable support, you can add a rule to your mailertable like: domain.gov local: Or, perhaps, you can add domain.gov to sendmail's 'local-host-names' file. -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Changing host name for email (Fedora Core 5)
Hello, Everyone I have been making a few fledgling attempts at learning how to set up mailing lists using Mailman. In fact, I have one that I have created for the use of friends of our cat. Like I said, I'm just figuring out how to do it. When I initially set up that list (and in all of my other, and subsequent attempts), my domain was incorrectly listed as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] As a result, I could submit my request for membership to the list, I could even get the message that I am supposed to confirm before I become an official member. But I could not send the email back, since xx-xxx-xxx-xxx.client.insightbb.com is not the name of my domain. It is the correct IP/machine name for our computer, but afolkey2.net is my fully qualified domain name. With a little fiddling around on the web interface for my linus-speaks mailing list, I successfully changed the setting: Host name this list prefers for email. from xx-xxx-xxx-xxx.client.insightbb.com to the correct afolkey2.net Since then, my list has been fully functional. But now I cannot duplicate that success. When I experimented with creating another list (expecting the above described issue), I again went to the web interface to change xx-xxx-xxx-xxx.client.insightbb.com to afolkey2.net This time, it failed with the following error: Server not found Firefox can't find the server at 12-223-130-240.client.insightbb.com. * Check the address for typing errors such as ww.example.com instead of www.example.com * If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network connection. * If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure that Bon Echo is permitted to access the Web. With this error in the browser, the url in the address bar was as follows: http://**-***-***-***.client.insightbb.com/mailman/admin/afolkey3/general to http://www.afolkey2.net/mailman/admin/afolkey3/general So I did what I did before with the linus-speaks list: I changed http://**-***-***-***.client.insightbb.com/mailman/admin/afolkey3/general to http://www.afolkey2.net/mailman/admin/afolkey3/general This brought back the afolkey3 list configuration page. So I again attempted to change: xx-xxx-xxx-xxx.client.insightbb.com to the correct afolkey2.net Same error. So my question is, how come I could change the Host name this list prefers for email. setting before, but I can't now? I initially set up both lists using the /usr/lib/mailman/bin/newlist command. This brings up a related question: when I attempted to create a new list from the following page: http://www.afolkey2.net/mailman/create I was informed as follows: Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists This seemed odd, since the mailman password is the same as my root password. (I know, I NEED to get more diverse in my passwords.) The point is, how can I have any more authority to creat a list than I already have? Anyway, I am a real noob with Mailman. But I believe that as soon as I get a few fundamental principles down, I will be just fine. Also, my perusal of your extensive FAQ's and documentation didn't turn up an answer to this, probably very simple, problem. Not that the answers weren't there, but I couldn't find them. Also, I have downloaded the entire mailman-users archives, and I will peruse those while I wait for your wisdom on this. Steven P. Ulrick P.S.: Just to prove that I do have a functioning list, check out this URL: http://www.afolkey2.net/mailman/listinfo/linus-speaks Also, the Mailman that I am using is the one that ships with Fedora Core 5: mailman-2.1.7-1.2 _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing host name for email (Fedora Core 5)
Steven Ulrick wrote: So my question is, how come I could change the Host name this list prefers for email. setting before, but I can't now? I initially set up both lists using the /usr/lib/mailman/bin/newlist command. Possibly you specified a web domain the first time and not this time. The problem is the list attribute web_page_url is http://**-***-***-***.client.insightbb.com/mailman/ and needs to be changed. Changing the domain in the address bar in the browser doesn't work because it's the post action url in the web page that you go to when you click Save Changes. Go to the FAQ at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py and search for fix_url. This brings up a related question: when I attempted to create a new list from the following page: http://www.afolkey2.net/mailman/create I was informed as follows: Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists There are two passwords that work for authorizing the 'create' page. They are the Mailman site password and the list creator password, both set by bin/mmsitepass. One of these two needs to be entered in the List creator's (authentication) password: box. If this doesn't work, the browser/web server is not sending the post data correctly from the form. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.045.htp. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] disappearing CC lines
Patrick Bogen wrote: On 5/18/06, Imre Gergely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have some problems with a mailman list. if i send from user A, to list L, and CC to B and C (where A,B,C are list members on the same list), the mail i got back from the list (to user A) is missing a CC address. i mean when i look at the message (using firefox) there is only one user (B) in the CC list, the other one is gone. Is user C a member of list L? Mailman tries to not send duplicates, and it may in fact do this by stripping the address from the CC and sending it as a normal list post. Patrick is correct as to what happens, but it is a mystery to me why this is done. The AvoidDups handler makes a list of all explicit recipients of a message (addresses in To:, Cc:, Resent-To: and Resent-Cc:). It then goes through the message recipients (normally, the non-digest list members with delivery enabled) and any message recipient that is a list member and has DontReceiveDuplicates set is removed from the message recipients so that address doesn't receive a list message because it presumably receive a directly addressed message. So far, so good. But then, for reasons I don't understand, AvoidDups then removes this address from the Cc: header, if that's where it was. It doesn't remove it if it is in To:, Resent-To: or Resent-Cc:. It just removes it from Cc:. It is not clear (to me at least) why. But the bottom line is any address in Cc: that would otherwise have received the post from the list and that has DontReceiveDuplicates set will not receive the post from the list (because it presumably received the Cc:) and will be removed from the Cc: header of the message sent from the list. Note that this does not affect digest members who are in Cc: because they will not be candidate recipients of the message. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
