Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brad Knowles wrote: check the Mailman logs, to see how many copies of each message was delivered to the MTA, and then check the MTA logs to track down the individual deliveries to each user. OK, I'll do that. But once I determine the problem, then how to fix it? Say I confirm Mailman is only delivering one copy of a message (rather than 20), what can I do? (First thing I do will probably be to come right back here and post!) Allan mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/perl%40ipchains.ru Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp Please, be sure that mailman delivers messages to MTA. If it delivers to MTA, then it's *not* a mailman problem. -- Oleg D. -- don't believe every word people use to say, they might be wrong. an undefined problem has infinitive number of solutions. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exchange is really all that's recently changed in our environment. I think I'll focus my trouble-shooting there now. Thank you, all! Allan mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Try to find out where problem *exists* first. If mailman does all the thing needed it's not mailman's problem. Just take a look inside mailman's logs first. -- Oleg D. -- don't believe every word people use to say, they might be wrong. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] qmail setup question
Peter Horst wrote: Hi, I'm trying to set up Mailman on a Fedora Core 5 system running qmail. I'm using the current yum (rpm) package of Mailman. The 2.1 Installation Manual says: Then make your aliases: .qmail = [EMAIL PROTECTED] letters .qmail-owner = mailman-owner’s letters I can't parse this - can someone break it down for me? What does [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s letters mean? Thanks, hope this is not too dumb. Peter Refer to your MTA documentation. Also, it is a good practice to *google* solution first. There're a lot of solutions how to solve this. As for exim i do this like that: mailman_router: driver = accept condition = MAILMAN_ENABLED require_files = MAILMAN_VAR/lists/$local_part/config.pck local_part_suffix_optional local_part_suffix = -bounces : -bounces+* : \ -confirm+* : -join : -leave : \ -owner : -request : -admin transport = mailman_transport Maybe your MTA has some like that? -- Oleg D. -- don't believe every word people use to say, they might be wrong. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Double address in Reply-To header
Hi Our Mailman was recently upgraded to 2.1.5. After the upgrade, a couple of subscribers began complaining that they were receiving double replies to their posts. It turned out that their MUA was appending their private address to the list address in the Reply-To header. I've tried to find out what is happening, but without success. One subscriber was using an old version of Outlook Express, but she was still getting the same behaviour after she upgraded OE, and even after she switched over to Thunderbird. Another subscriber is using some version of elm. What really makes me wonder, what is different in the messages that this can happen at all? With the old version of Mailman, nothing of the sort happened. TIA Tomi Snellman -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Double address in Reply-To header
Tomi Snellman wrote: Hi Our Mailman was recently upgraded to 2.1.5. After the upgrade, a couple of subscribers began complaining that they were receiving double replies to their posts. It turned out that their MUA was appending their private address to the list address in the Reply-To header. I've tried to find out what is happening, but without success. One subscriber was using an old version of Outlook Express, but she was still getting the same behaviour after she upgraded OE, and even after she switched over to Thunderbird. Another subscriber is using some version of elm. What really makes me wonder, what is different in the messages that this can happen at all? With the old version of Mailman, nothing of the sort happened. TIA Tomi Snellman -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/perl%40ipchains.ru Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp Did you stopped older version of mailman with your ``cli'' scripts eq `mailmanctl' ? -- Oleg D. -- don't believe every word people use to say, they might be wrong. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Allan Trick wrote: Getting more reports now of other internal users (we have people subscribed within our firewall on our Exchange mail server as well as people outside with all other kinds of email addresses) not getting all messages. In each case, it sounds like they get ONE message, whereas they're on between 4 and 20 different lists. They should be getting 4-20 copies of the same message (one for each list they're on). But they're only getting ONE. I can't see anything different in the settings for the one successful list (not the same one for all users). Is it possible that Exchange is trying to be helpful by not delivering the additional messages since they're all the same? There is nothing in the Junk folder, but it seems logical that the mail system might be interfering with the mail delivery here. We just went to Exchange; previously we were on sendmail and everything worked OK. We, too, are doing the initial phases of migrating from Unix based UW-IMAP towards Exchange. I think I have seen something similar: UW-IMAP recipient on 'n' lists gets 'n' copies; similar Exchange recipient sees one copy. (Note the I think disclaimer: we haven't yet put this far enough up the priority list to investigate more fully.) So before looking at the Mailman configuration, perhaps first check the email logs (sendmail, exim, etc.) on the Mailman machine to what it is outputting towards the Exchange server: 'n' or one. If 'n', then it seems that Exchange would be conflating them; if one, then you probably need to concentrate your efforts on the Mailman machine. (My guess, and it is only a guess, is that Exchange assumes the Message-ID is unique and so discards duplicates. This uniqueness assumption for email is generally fine. But in the case of an email going through more than one list, with recipients in common, I think it would no longer be valid.) Hope that helps. (You might want to report back your findings for the benefit of the FAQ!) -- : David LeeI.T. Service : : Senior Systems ProgrammerComputer Centre : : Durham University : : http://www.dur.ac.uk/t.d.lee/South Road: : Durham DH1 3LE: : Phone: +44 191 334 2752 U.K. : -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] problem about a statistic script
Hello;
I've modified the following script in order to get monthly statistics
including list owner column.
original script:
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#!/bin/bash
MONTH=`date +'%b'`
MAILMANDIR=/cwis/htdocs/mailman
POSTLOG=$MAILMANDIR/logs/post
LISTLISTS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_lists
LISTMEMBERS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_members
echo Listname Posts Members
echo =
for list in `$LISTLISTS | grep -v matching mailing lists found | awk '{print
$1}'`
do
postnum=`grep ^$MONTH $POSTLOG | grep -i post to $list | wc -l`
membernum=`$LISTMEMBERS $list | wc -l`
echo $list | $postnum | $membernum
done
-- (it works perfectly)
I've added owner related lines and the script became to be as following:
modified script:
#!/bin/bash
MONTH=`date +'%b'`
MAILMANDIR=/cwis/htdocs/mailman
POSTLOG=$MAILMANDIR/logs/post
LISTLISTS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_lists
LISTMEMBERS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_members
LISTOWNERS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_owners
echo Listname Posts Members
echo =
for list in `$LISTLISTS | grep -v matching mailing lists found | awk '{print
$1}'`
do
ownlist=`$LISTOWNERS $list | head -1`
postnum=`grep ^$MONTH $POSTLOG | grep -i post to $list | wc -l`
membernum=`$LISTMEMBERS $list | wc -l`
echo $list | $ownlist | $postnum | $membernum
done
-
only addition is the path of list_owners command and ownlist variable
calling this command.
But the script gives the following lines.
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /cwis/htdocs/mailman/bin/list_owners, line 120, in ?
main()
File /cwis/htdocs/mailman/bin/list_owners, line 91, in main
mlist = MailList(listname, lock=0)
File /cwis/htdocs/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 130, in __init__
self.Load()
File /cwis/htdocs/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 615, in Load
raise Errors.MMUnknownListError
Mailman.Errors.MMUnknownListError
The is about ~250 lists in the system and the result probably will be
repeated 250 times if i wont kill the command.
how can i solve the problem?
Tank you for your answers.
Regads.
Evrim AKMAN
Computer Center METU
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Message IDs Security
Thanks Brad/Mark for comments. It seems outlook is to blame for the message ids. Re: Security, I will pass back to the list anything I find that's simple enough for me! The potential feature set of 2.2 looks good. Any guesstimates on when this will be coming?(!) Are there plans for 2.2 to be as easy to apply as an upgrade as the 2.1.x releases have been? One further issue: Is it possible to discover who has been invited to join a list but has not yet responded to the invitation email? Thanks, Jon - Original Message From: Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jon Loose [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 24 August, 2006 6:02:12 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Message IDs Security At 9:25 AM + 2006-08-24, Jon Loose wrote: The potential feature set of 2.2 looks good. Any guesstimates on when this will be coming?(!) I'm not aware of any specific schedule for the delivery of version 2.2. You'd have to ask Barry about that. Are there plans for 2.2 to be as easy to apply as an upgrade as the 2.1.x releases have been? I'm not sure, but I would hope it would be very easy to make the upgrade. Again, you'd have to talk to Barry. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 Founding Individual Sponsor of LOPSA. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] SMTPHOST?
Anyone have any suggestions on this issue? Mailman is running, and I've created a few different mailing lists. I'm running Blue Quartz and have virtual domains. Currently all email sent from Mailman is originating from my localhost FQDN. I would like email from one of my virtual domains to originate from that domain name/IP, not the localhost domain name and IP.. Is this possible? Thanks! Jay -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jay%40abadata.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] problem about a statistic script
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 how can i solve the problem? uppercase Listnames as reported by list_lists throw errors in list_owner - convert listnames to lower - -- Andreas Schulze DATEV eG, Paumgartner Strasse 6-14, D - 90429 Nürnberg Abt. Internet- und Securitydienste Telefon : +49 911 276 2648 Telefax : +49 911 276 7892 Mobil : +49 172 8122883 E-Mail : andreas.schulze_at_datev.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFE7uswA7Vnk6fbpn8RAneiAJ4zFgTz81ChOn18diW35nwm4u2mkgCeLlsm aSMWcSGEnO3+PgMjWdUJYnQ= =vnzO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] SMTPHOST?
Jay Vaagen wrote: Anyone have any suggestions on this issue? Mailman is running, and I've created a few different mailing lists. I'm running Blue Quartz and have virtual domains. Currently all email sent from Mailman is originating from my localhost FQDN. I would like email from one of my virtual domains to originate from that domain name/IP, not the localhost domain name and IP.. Is this possible? Thanks! Jay -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jay%40abadata.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp mm_cfg.py: VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = On VHOST_EMAIL_HOST = 'DOMAIN' VHOST_URL_HOST = 'www.DOMAIN' add_virtualhost(VHOST_URL_HOST, VHOST_EMAIL_HOST) add_virtualhost(VHOST_EMAIL_HOST, VHOST_EMAIL_HOST) and in lists' options set the right virtualdomain you'd like to use. Note that MTA must deliver mail for this domain -- Oleg D. -- don't believe every word people use to say, they might be wrong. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] problem about a statistic script
I am trying to write the script on bash How can i use transrom to lower/upper commands? the manuals on the web didn't work. Liste Yoneticisi http://e-list.cc.metu.edu.tr http://e-liste.bidb.odtu.edu.tr On Fri, 25 Aug 2006, Andreas Schulze wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 how can i solve the problem? uppercase Listnames as reported by list_lists throw errors in list_owner - convert listnames to lower - -- Andreas Schulze DATEV eG, Paumgartner Strasse 6-14, D - 90429 Nürnberg Abt. Internet- und Securitydienste Telefon : +49 911 276 2648 Telefax : +49 911 276 7892 Mobil : +49 172 8122883 E-Mail : andreas.schulze_at_datev.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFE7uswA7Vnk6fbpn8RAneiAJ4zFgTz81ChOn18diW35nwm4u2mkgCeLlsm aSMWcSGEnO3+PgMjWdUJYnQ= =vnzO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hit a Bug during server move
Mark Sapiro wrote: Anne Ramey wrote: OK, my cgi-bin was missing the suid. Now all I need to figure out is my post failures. Is $prefix/mail/mailman also missing SETGID? If that's not it, does your MTA use aliases for Mailman, and if so, are they there? What's in the MTA log for an attempted post? I thought I should post that I did solve it. My $prefix/mail/mailman was also missing it's siud, but my exim install was also missing a + in front of the local domains. So now my mail can be delivered to mailman and mailman can process it. Thanks. Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] qmail setup question
Oleg D. wrote: Peter Horst wrote: Hi, I'm trying to set up Mailman on a Fedora Core 5 system running qmail. I'm using the current yum (rpm) package of Mailman. The 2.1 Installation Manual says: Then make your aliases: .qmail = [EMAIL PROTECTED] letters .qmail-owner = mailman-owner’s letters I can't parse this - can someone break it down for me? What does [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s letters mean? Thanks, hope this is not too dumb. Peter Refer to your MTA documentation. Also, it is a good practice to *google* solution first. There're a lot of solutions how to solve this. Solve what? :-) I appreciate your taking the time to answer, but my question was what does '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s letters mean? What's a letter? I'm saying that fundamentally I don't understand what the part I quoted even means, so I have nothing to Google... -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Error when trying to remove a member from the ban_list
When I try to remove a member from a ban_list, I receive an error message. It only says: Error (in red) Bad email address for option ban_list and then all the banned member are listed. I am correctly removing the member. Any ideas? J -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Why Not Upgrade to 2.1.8?
Our Mailman was recently upgraded to 2.1.5. I have seen many posts on this list from people who are running 2.1.5 (or earlier). I am wondering why someone would recently upgrade to 2.1.5 instead of to 2.1.8, which is the current release? -- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone:+1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 222, Room D209 Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Why Not Upgrade to 2.1.8?
At 09:18 AM 8/25/2006, Barry Finkel wrote: I have seen many posts on this list from people who are running 2.1.5 (or earlier). I am wondering why someone would recently upgrade to 2.1.5 instead of to 2.1.8, which is the current release? Barry, I know one reason we don't upgrade every time one comes out is we want to be sure everything is stable. I'm sure it is, but sometimes people talk about a feature not working right in a release and we think we know everything's working properly in the one we have, so why upgrade. Also, we usually hire someone to come in and help us with upgrades like this. If the upgrade process were really cut and dried, and there was virtually no possibility that something weird could happen, then maybe us non-guru folks would attempt it. Is there a document explaining the upgrade process, and is it considered a pretty simple thing to do? Allan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Double address in Reply-To header
Tomi Snellman wrote: Our Mailman was recently upgraded to 2.1.5. After the upgrade, a couple of subscribers began complaining that they were receiving double replies to their posts. It turned out that their MUA was appending their private address to the list address in the Reply-To header. It appears that the list settings on General Options are: first_strip_reply_to = No reply_goes_to_list = This List If this is correct, setting first_strip_reply_to = Yes will fix your problem. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] setting moderator password with command line
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Re: [Mailman-Users] problem about a statistic script
Its OK.
I want to share the script:
-
#!/bin/bash
MONTH=`date +'%b'`
echo $MONTH
MAILMANDIR=/cwis/htdocs/mailman
POSTLOG=$MAILMANDIR/logs/post
LISTLISTS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_lists
LISTMEMBERS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_members
LISTOWNERS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_owners
echo Listname Posts Members
echo =
echo $LISTOWNERS
for list in `$LISTLISTS | grep -v matching mailing lists found | awk
'{print $1}'`
do
listlow=`echo $list | tr A-Z a-z`
listupp=`echo $list | tr a-z A-Z`
ownlist=`$LISTOWNERS $listlow | head`
postnum=`grep ^$MONTH $POSTLOG | grep -i post to $list | wc -l`
membernum=`$LISTMEMBERS $list | wc -l`
echo $list | $ownlist | $postnum | $membernum
done
---
Of course some estetic corrections are needed.
But this isn't completed. I also want to add list creation date.
We used to work on Listproc and we had a statistic script including the
columns about list description and list creation date.
description can be added but how can i add creation date?
Liste Yoneticisi
http://e-list.cc.metu.edu.tr
http://e-liste.bidb.odtu.edu.tr
On Fri, 25 Aug 2006, liste yoneticisi wrote:
I am trying to write the script on bash
How can i use transrom to lower/upper commands?
the manuals on the web didn't work.
Liste Yoneticisi
http://e-list.cc.metu.edu.tr
http://e-liste.bidb.odtu.edu.tr
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- convert listnames to lower
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Need to stop mailman
Hi Catherine and Brad, Typed in the code to stop the mailman but it kept on sending mail already in the queue - I forgot to empty the MTA. A reboot appeared to have stopped the process of sending however. The logs were inclusive, but it appears that the html became malformed somehow and the adv was being resent to one group of the whole list. I am on that list but I never got a repeat email, but I saw on several computers at the business where they got at least 4 of them. We cleared the mail queue and will restart the server later today after we look again at the /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/out files to be sure they are clear too. I have set up a test list that only has the names of the principles of this mailing endeavor. We will first send out the adv to ourselves and be sure the adv looks as we expect it too and not other problems crop up. After the test run we will send out the adv to the main list. My primary reason for this is to check out this guy's html code every time - just in case. Thanks for your suggestions and help. Warm regards, Gary Catherine Maxwell wrote: Hello Gary, Just set this guy to moderated and make sure that he is not set in the allowed to post block. When he posts a message the notice will come to you as the list administrator to approve it or not. --Catherine At 10:57 AM 8/24/2006, you wrote: Hi Guy's, Problem: Mailman is sending out unsolicited emails and I want to clear out the remaining emails. I will stop the service (at the machine itself) by: /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop The list in question is sending out unsolicited emails according to the person who once a month sends out an advertisement for his company. I have asked for examples and I am being stonewalled - don't know why he won't send me an example. He is the only one authorized to send mail - I set that myself. I am not only the list owner, but I am the only one with passwords to the root and list. I have removed the network cable from the server and will access the server on site to type in the code above. After typing in the stop code I will reattach the network cable so I can view the root via secure shell at my office. After that I can use the html interface to view the list settings. Question: What do I look for? Have I missed anything? Is there a file that holds emails that need to be sent out? Has anyone else had this problem? Is this guy blowing smoke up my *(^%? Thanks, Warm regards, Gary . -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/catmaxx%40berrach.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Why Not Upgrade to 2.1.8?
Barry Finkel wrote: Our Mailman was recently upgraded to 2.1.5. I have seen many posts on this list from people who are running 2.1.5 (or earlier). I am wondering why someone would recently upgrade to 2.1.5 instead of to 2.1.8, which is the current release? End original message. - I suspect a lot of these people are using an RHEL distribution and the RPM they supply which is usually a version or three behind the latest. As easy as mailman is to install from source, I can't really see a reason to use the RPM other than to remain compliant with Redhat's way of doing things. Dragon ~~~ Venimus, Saltavimus, Bibimus (et naribus canium capti sumus) ~~~ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] qmail setup question
Peter Horst wrote: Solve what? :-) I appreciate your taking the time to answer, but my question was what does '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s letters mean? What's a letter? I'm saying that fundamentally I don't understand what the part I quoted even means, so I have nothing to Google... Most of us are not qmail experts or even knowledgeable about qmail at all. Questions about a specific MTA are more likely to get good answers if directed to a list or other resource devoted to that MTA. I know your question comes directly from our installation manual, but that material may well have been contributed by one person who isn't here now. Having read that section, all I can tell you is this has to do with delivering mail to the site list 'mailman' and it's owner 'mailman-owner' when 'mailman' is also a local user. I think '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' means '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' where 'example.com' is your domain. I haven't a clue about the broader meaning of those lines. Sorry I can't be more help. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages
I'm just reporting back that in the scenario I was describing earlier in this thread, I've checked logs and it appears that Mailman did do what it was supposed to and deliver a message to all 20 of our lists. So the fact that any given user who is subscribed to all those lists only receives one message of the 20 would appear to be due to Exchange's helpfulness in reducing in-box clutter. I'm not sure I like this feature but there probably isn't much to be done about it. Maybe it'll help others who didn't already know that Exchange does this to read this in the FAQ. And if anyone more knowledgeable about Exchange wants to comment and maybe provide a workaround for cases where all messages sent to a bunch of lists ARE received by the Exchange user in Outlook, that'd be nice. I've got a question about the logs, but I'll put that in a separate message. Allan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Why Not Upgrade to 2.1.8?
Allan Trick wrote: At 09:18 AM 8/25/2006, Barry Finkel wrote: I have seen many posts on this list from people who are running 2.1.5 (or earlier). I am wondering why someone would recently upgrade to 2.1.5 instead of to 2.1.8, which is the current release? Barry, I know one reason we don't upgrade every time one comes out is we want to be sure everything is stable. I'm sure it is, but sometimes people talk about a feature not working right in a release and we think we know everything's working properly in the one we have, so why upgrade. Security for one. Much of the impetus for releasing later versions in the 2.1.X branch was for that reason. See http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/security.html for some more info on that. The release notes for each release also explain any other changes. Also, we usually hire someone to come in and help us with upgrades like this. If the upgrade process were really cut and dried, and there was virtually no possibility that something weird could happen, then maybe us non-guru folks would attempt it. Is there a document explaining the upgrade process, and is it considered a pretty simple thing to do? The process is described in the UPGRADING file that is part of the source for each release. I found it pretty simple. It basically comes down to a few simple steps as long as you have a version of Python that is recent enough for the package. If you are already running 2.1.5 then that is covered for installing 2.1.8. 1. Download the tarball. 2. Extract the files from the tarball. 3. Run configure (you may need to change a few options there to get it to set things up properly, mainly to do with what group your MTA and web server execute under and what owner/group mailman execute as). 4. Run make 5. Stop mailman and your MTA while doing the install. (Use bin/mailmanctl stop to shutdown mailman). 6. Run make install 7. Start your MTA and mailman ( bin/mailmanctl start. The only thing I can see that may complicate things is if you used an RPM or other package to install that does not use the standard file locations for mailman. If everything goes well, it is literally less than 30 minutes to do all of this and you only have to keep mailman and your MTA off line for maybe 5 or 10 minutes. Dragon ~~~ Venimus, Saltavimus, Bibimus (et naribus canium capti sumus) ~~~ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages
Allan Trick sent the message below at 08:03 8/25/2006: I'm just reporting back that in the scenario I was describing earlier in this thread, I've checked logs and it appears that Mailman did do what it was supposed to and deliver a message to all 20 of our lists. So the fact that any given user who is subscribed to all those lists only receives one message of the 20 would appear to be due to Exchange's helpfulness in reducing in-box clutter. I'm not sure I like this feature but there probably isn't much to be done about it. Maybe it'll help others who didn't already know that Exchange does this to read this in the FAQ. And if anyone more knowledgeable about Exchange wants to comment and maybe provide a workaround for cases where all messages sent to a bunch of lists ARE received by the Exchange user in Outlook, that'd be nice. I've got a question about the logs, but I'll put that in a separate message. End original message. - Since the FAQ is open to contributions from anyone, you can go there and add this in a new entry yourself. Dragon ~~~ Venimus, Saltavimus, Bibimus (et naribus canium capti sumus) ~~~ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Error when trying to remove a member from theban_list
Jewel wrote: When I try to remove a member from a ban_list, I receive an error message. It only says: Error (in red) Bad email address for option ban_list and then all the banned member are listed. I am correctly removing the member. Any ideas? One of the addresses in the resultant list is not a syntactically valid email address or is a regular expression that doesn't begin with the '^' character. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Log entries refer to which list?
I was trying to determine if a message was sent to the lists it should have been sent to, and see two different types of entries in my SMTP log: Aug 24 16:23:57 2006 (18946) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp for 41 recips, completed in 8.864 seconds Aug 24 16:23:58 2006 (18946) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.296 seconds Does the first line indicate the sending of a message to one list, which has 41 members? Is there one line like this per list that receives a message? If so, how does one determine which list that is? And what would the difference be in the second example? I'm guessing that is referring to maybe an umbrella list that was sent to. Thanks! Allan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] problem about a statistic script
liste yoneticisi wrote:
Its OK.
I want to share the script:
-
#!/bin/bash
MONTH=`date +'%b'`
echo $MONTH
MAILMANDIR=/cwis/htdocs/mailman
POSTLOG=$MAILMANDIR/logs/post
LISTLISTS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_lists
LISTMEMBERS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_members
LISTOWNERS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_owners
echo Listname Posts Members
echo =
echo $LISTOWNERS
for list in `$LISTLISTS | grep -v matching mailing lists found | awk
'{print $1}'`
do
listlow=`echo $list | tr A-Z a-z`
listupp=`echo $list | tr a-z A-Z`
ownlist=`$LISTOWNERS $listlow | head`
postnum=`grep ^$MONTH $POSTLOG | grep -i post to $list | wc -l`
membernum=`$LISTMEMBERS $list | wc -l`
echo $list | $ownlist | $postnum | $membernum
done
---
Of course some estetic corrections are needed.
But this isn't completed. I also want to add list creation date.
We used to work on Listproc and we had a statistic script including the
columns about list description and list creation date.
description can be added but how can i add creation date?
Liste Yoneticisi
http://e-list.cc.metu.edu.tr
http://e-liste.bidb.odtu.edu.tr
On Fri, 25 Aug 2006, liste yoneticisi wrote:
I am trying to write the script on bash
How can i use transrom to lower/upper commands?
the manuals on the web didn't work.
Liste Yoneticisi
http://e-list.cc.metu.edu.tr
http://e-liste.bidb.odtu.edu.tr
On Fri, 25 Aug 2006, Andreas Schulze wrote:
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how can i solve the problem?
uppercase Listnames as reported by list_lists throw errors in list_owner
- convert listnames to lower
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Whoops, your script is lil buggy:
echo Listname Posts Members
I use my own perl scripts for that, that generates very nice web-stats,
not only for mailman, but for whole userland programms on my machine :-)
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages
Allan Trick wrote: I'm just reporting back that in the scenario I was describing earlier in this thread, I've checked logs and it appears that Mailman did do what it was supposed to and deliver a message to all 20 of our lists. So the fact that any given user who is subscribed to all those lists only receives one message of the 20 would appear to be due to Exchange's helpfulness in reducing in-box clutter. I'm not sure I like this feature but there probably isn't much to be done about it. Maybe it'll help others who didn't already know that Exchange does this to read this in the FAQ. And if anyone more knowledgeable about Exchange wants to comment and maybe provide a workaround for cases where all messages sent to a bunch of lists ARE received by the Exchange user in Outlook, that'd be nice. I've got a question about the logs, but I'll put that in a separate message. Allan As David said it would be a great idea to have a post in FAQ about that ;-) David Lee on Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:55:01 +0100 (BST): Hope that helps. (You might want to report back your findings for the benefit of the FAQ!) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] problem about a statistic script
liste yoneticisi wrote:
Its OK.
I want to share the script:
-
#!/bin/bash
MONTH=`date +'%b'`
echo $MONTH
MAILMANDIR=/cwis/htdocs/mailman
POSTLOG=$MAILMANDIR/logs/post
LISTLISTS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_lists
LISTMEMBERS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_members
LISTOWNERS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_owners
echo Listname Posts Members
echo =
echo $LISTOWNERS
for list in `$LISTLISTS | grep -v matching mailing lists found | awk
'{print $1}'`
do
listlow=`echo $list | tr A-Z a-z`
listupp=`echo $list | tr a-z A-Z`
ownlist=`$LISTOWNERS $listlow | head`
postnum=`grep ^$MONTH $POSTLOG | grep -i post to $list | wc -l`
membernum=`$LISTMEMBERS $list | wc -l`
echo $list | $ownlist | $postnum | $membernum
done
---
Of course some estetic corrections are needed.
But this isn't completed. I also want to add list creation date.
We used to work on Listproc and we had a statistic script including the
columns about list description and list creation date.
description can be added but how can i add creation date?
Liste Yoneticisi
http://e-list.cc.metu.edu.tr
http://e-liste.bidb.odtu.edu.tr
On Fri, 25 Aug 2006, liste yoneticisi wrote:
I am trying to write the script on bash
How can i use transrom to lower/upper commands?
the manuals on the web didn't work.
Liste Yoneticisi
http://e-list.cc.metu.edu.tr
http://e-liste.bidb.odtu.edu.tr
Sorry didn't see the bottom of your message.
You can try tolower(3), ex awk{'print tolower(FOO)}'
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Re: [Mailman-Users] setting moderator password with command line
Oleg D. wrote: Alan Holmes wrote: Is there a way to set the moderator password with one of the command line tools? $PREFIX/mailman/bin/mmsitepass No! mmsitepass sets only the site admin password or the sitewide list creator password. There is bin/change_pw that can be used to change a list's admin password, but not it's moderator password. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] qmail setup question
Mark Sapiro wrote: Peter Horst wrote: Solve what? :-) I appreciate your taking the time to answer, but my question was what does '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s letters mean? What's a letter? I'm saying that fundamentally I don't understand what the part I quoted even means, so I have nothing to Google... Most of us are not qmail experts or even knowledgeable about qmail at all. Questions about a specific MTA are more likely to get good answers if directed to a list or other resource devoted to that MTA. I know your question comes directly from our installation manual, but that material may well have been contributed by one person who isn't here now. Having read that section, all I can tell you is this has to do with delivering mail to the site list 'mailman' and it's owner 'mailman-owner' when 'mailman' is also a local user. I think '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' means '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' where 'example.com' is your domain. I haven't a clue about the broader meaning of those lines. Sorry I can't be more help. Oh, I definitely appreciate your taking the time to help - I certainly don't think it's anybody's job to help Peter :-) I think I'll try this out over on the qmail list see how that goes. Thanks again - Peter -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] setting moderator password with command line
Mark Sapiro wrote: Oleg D. wrote: Alan Holmes wrote: Is there a way to set the moderator password with one of the command line tools? $PREFIX/mailman/bin/mmsitepass No! mmsitepass sets only the site admin password or the sitewide list creator password. There is bin/change_pw that can be used to change a list's admin password, but not it's moderator password. Whoops, sorry for mistake. Lil brain-buggy after hard-working day. ;-) Oleg D. -- don't believe every word people use to say, they might be wrong. an undefined problem has infinitive number of solutions. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Log entries refer to which list?
Allan Trick wrote: I was trying to determine if a message was sent to the lists it should have been sent to, and see two different types of entries in my SMTP log: Aug 24 16:23:57 2006 (18946) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp for 41 recips, completed in 8.864 seconds This is a delivery of one message to the subscribers of one list with 41 eligible recipients. Aug 24 16:23:58 2006 (18946) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.296 seconds This is an internally generated mailman message (you can tell by the form of the message ID). It could be an owner or user notification of some kind. Does the first line indicate the sending of a message to one list, which has 41 members? Is there one line like this per list that receives a message? If so, how does one determine which list that is? Yes. Look in the 'post' log whose entries have message ID and list name. You can correlate thes with 'smtp' log entries by message ID or in the case of posts to multiple lists with the same message ID, by timestamp. Note that current Mailman versions include the list name in the smtp log message. You can do the same in your version by putting the following in mm_cfg.py SMTP_LOG_EVERY_MESSAGE = ( 'smtp', '%(msg_message-id)s smtp to %(listname)s for %(#recips)d recips, completed in %(time).3f seconds') (this is 3 lines, the last of which is wrapped by my MUA). And what would the difference be in the second example? I'm guessing that is referring to maybe an umbrella list that was sent to. See above. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Log entries refer to which list?
Mark Sapiro wrote: Allan Trick wrote: I was trying to determine if a message was sent to the lists it should have been sent to, and see two different types of entries in my SMTP log: Aug 24 16:23:57 2006 (18946) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp for 41 recips, completed in 8.864 seconds This is a delivery of one message to the subscribers of one list with 41 eligible recipients. Aug 24 16:23:58 2006 (18946) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.296 seconds This is an internally generated mailman message (you can tell by the form of the message ID). It could be an owner or user notification of some kind. Does the first line indicate the sending of a message to one list, which has 41 members? Is there one line like this per list that receives a message? If so, how does one determine which list that is? Yes. Look in the 'post' log whose entries have message ID and list name. You can correlate thes with 'smtp' log entries by message ID or in the case of posts to multiple lists with the same message ID, by timestamp. Note that current Mailman versions include the list name in the smtp log message. You can do the same in your version by putting the following in mm_cfg.py SMTP_LOG_EVERY_MESSAGE = ( 'smtp', '%(msg_message-id)s smtp to %(listname)s for %(#recips)d recips, completed in %(time).3f seconds') (this is 3 lines, the last of which is wrapped by my MUA). And what would the difference be in the second example? I'm guessing that is referring to maybe an umbrella list that was sent to. See above. So looking thru this message I figure out that mailman has no any tool to be more ``friendly with verbose''. This i mean, ``exim'' has such a tool like `exigrep' helping me surfing thru logs by ID and parsing out all info about delivery (or error) on that ID. I mean I do `exigrep 'foo.diman' /var/log/exim_mainlog` and it greps 'foo.domain' (or other PATTERN) parses out Message-ID and greps everything that has this Message-ID from same log file... -- Oleg D. -- don't believe every word people use to say, they might be wrong. an undefined problem has infinitive number of solutions. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Message IDs Security
Jon Loose wrote: Thanks Brad/Mark for comments. It seems outlook is to blame for the message ids. Re: Security, I will pass back to the list anything I find that's simple enough for me! The potential feature set of 2.2 looks good. Any guesstimates on when this will be coming?(!) Are there plans for 2.2 to be as easy to apply as an upgrade as the 2.1.x releases have been? Yes. Mailman 2.2 should be as easy to apply as 2.1.x upgrades. And I know I'll regret saying this, but 2.2 should be released in beta at least before the end of 2006, but the security changes I mentioned earlier in this thread won't be in the initial 2.2 release. One further issue: Is it possible to discover who has been invited to join a list but has not yet responded to the invitation email? bin/dumpdb lists/listname/pending.pck and look at entries with a code of 'S'. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Message IDs Security
Thanks for lots of good/useful news here - especially the tentative beta release date! On running dumpdb, I noticed a couple of long-standing invitations. When an invitation is issued, is there a time-period after which mailman uninvites the individual concerned? The ability to produce this list via the web interface would be a most useful feature for web-based listadmins of invitation-only lists, I suspect. Thanks, Jon - Original Message From: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jon Loose [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailman-users@python.org Sent: Friday, 25 August, 2006 5:49:16 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Message IDs Security Jon Loose wrote: Thanks Brad/Mark for comments. It seems outlook is to blame for the message ids. Re: Security, I will pass back to the list anything I find that's simple enough for me! The potential feature set of 2.2 looks good. Any guesstimates on when this will be coming?(!) Are there plans for 2.2 to be as easy to apply as an upgrade as the 2.1.x releases have been? Yes. Mailman 2.2 should be as easy to apply as 2.1.x upgrades. And I know I'll regret saying this, but 2.2 should be released in beta at least before the end of 2006, but the security changes I mentioned earlier in this thread won't be in the initial 2.2 release. One further issue: Is it possible to discover who has been invited to join a list but has not yet responded to the invitation email? bin/dumpdb lists/listname/pending.pck and look at entries with a code of 'S'. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] lists within lists
Hi all, We're running a site with a mailman 2.1.5 configuration with 40-50 lists on it, and some lists have a list address as a subscriber to the list.. ie the general@ list might have a bunch of individual addresses and an otherlist@ address also as a member, (and the otherlist@ also contains individual addresses) So, what happens, is that when an email is sent to the general@ list it gets subject modified [General] as normal, but the people on the otherlist@ also get rewritten so they get mail that appears as [Otherlist][General] Subject line.. My question is, is there a way to have mailman not include the 2nd subject tag when posting to the general@ list (for the otherlist@ subscribers)? but also still retain it when sending explicitly to otherlist@ Cheers Spyro -- This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you may not copy or deliver this message or its attachments to anyone. Rather, you should permanently delete this message and its attachments and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments, which does not relate to the official business of the sending company must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by the sending company or any of its related entities. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Message IDs Security
Jon Loose wrote: On running dumpdb, I noticed a couple of long-standing invitations. When an invitation is issued, is there a time-period after which mailman uninvites the individual concerned? All pending requests including invitations expire after PENDING_REQUEST_LIFE which is set in Defaults.py to 3 days, but can be overridden in mm_cfg.py. Expired requests may remain in the file for a time, but they can't be used and will eventually be deleted. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] lists within lists
Spyro Polymiadis wrote: My question is, is there a way to have mailman not include the 2nd subject tag when posting to the general@ list (for the otherlist@ subscribers)? but also still retain it when sending explicitly to otherlist@ Not without modifying Mailman code. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Why Not Upgrade to 2.1.8?
On 8/25/06 8:07 AM, Dragon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Security for one. Much of the impetus for releasing later versions in the 2.1.X branch was for that reason. I don't know what, if anything, RedHat is doing about backporting the security changes. For things in general, they are pretty good about backporting upstream security fixes. Some, at least, of the ones present in 2.1.8 may be present in RedHat's current 2.1.5. Or not, of course. --John -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] lists within lists
Hi all, We're running a site with a mailman 2.1.5 configuration with 40-50 lists on it, and some lists have a list address as a subscriber to the list.. ie the general@ list might have a bunch of individual addresses and an otherlist@ address also as a member, (and the otherlist@ also contains individual addresses) So, what happens, is that when an email is sent to the general@ list it gets subject modified [General] as normal, but the people on the otherlist@ also get rewritten so they get mail that appears as [Otherlist][General] Subject line.. My question is, is there a way to have mailman not include the 2nd subject tag when posting to the general@ list (for the otherlist@ subscribers)? but also still retain it when sending explicitly to otherlist@ Cheers Spyro This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you may not copy or deliver this message or its attachments to anyone. Rather, you should permanently delete this message and its attachments and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments, which does not relate to the official business of the sending company must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by the sending company or any of its related entities. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] lists within lists
Hi all, We're running a site with a mailman 2.1.5 configuration with 40-50 lists on it, and some lists have a list address as a subscriber to the list.. ie the general@ list might have a bunch of individual addresses and an otherlist@ address also as a member, (and the otherlist@ also contains individual addresses) So, what happens, is that when an email is sent to the general@ list it gets subject modified [General] as normal, but the people on the otherlist@ also get rewritten so they get mail that appears as [Otherlist][General] Subject line.. My question is, is there a way to have mailman not include the 2nd subject tag when posting to the general@ list (for the otherlist@ subscribers)? but also still retain it when sending explicitly to otherlist@ Cheers Spyro -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] lists within lists
Hi all, We're running a site with a mailman 2.1.5 configuration with 40-50 lists on it, and some lists have a list address as a subscriber to the list.. ie the general@ list might have a bunch of individual addresses and an otherlist@ address also as a member, (and the otherlist@ also contains individual addresses) So, what happens, is that when an email is sent to the general@ list it gets subject modified [General] as normal, but the people on the otherlist@ also get rewritten so they get mail that appears as [Otherlist][General] Subject line.. My question is, is there a way to have mailman not include the 2nd subject tag when posting to the general@ list (for the otherlist@ subscribers)? but also still retain it when sending explicitly to otherlist@ Cheers Spyro -- This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you may not copy or deliver this message or its attachments to anyone. Rather, you should permanently delete this message and its attachments and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments, which does not relate to the official business of the sending company must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by the sending company or any of its related entities. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman not working...help pls
I'm having problems with a maillman installation that *used* to work fine. I'm not quite sure what stopped working. i don't believe any updates or changes were made on the server since the last time it worked and when it stopped working. I'm running Mailman 2.1.8 on Mac OS X 10.4.7. The MTA is Postfix. When I send e-mail to any list on the server, it seems to get swallowed up. If I try sending it from an unmoderated address, nothing happens. And if I try sending it from a moderated address, nothing happens and it doesn't show up in Tend to pending moderator requests. I've tried fixing Mailman perms with the checkperms command. At first it found some problems but they've all been fixed. I've also confirmed that postfix is working fine. I can send e-mail from the server with no problems. Can someone help me on the next steps of troubleshooting? Thanks! Ed -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not working...help pls
ed wrote: Can someone help me on the next steps of troubleshooting? http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Quicker way to subscribe someone?
Sorry to post so many questions in the space of a week to this list. I work at a school and all the changes we make to our mailing lists tend to take place just once a year--now. So in a few days I'll probably go away and you won't hear from me again till next summer. :-) My question this time is: is there a simpler way to subscribe one person to all 20 of our lists, and have the 'mod' bit unchecked for her? I've been going into each list thru the web interface, selecting Mass Subscription, adding the person, and then going to the Membership List and unchecking the 'mod' bit that is on by default. I'll be there's a much simpler command-line way to do it. Hope so! Thanks, Allan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Quicker way to subscribe someone?
Allan Trick sent the message below at 13:49 8/25/2006: Sorry to post so many questions in the space of a week to this list. I work at a school and all the changes we make to our mailing lists tend to take place just once a year--now. So in a few days I'll probably go away and you won't hear from me again till next summer. :-) My question this time is: is there a simpler way to subscribe one person to all 20 of our lists, and have the 'mod' bit unchecked for her? I've been going into each list thru the web interface, selecting Mass Subscription, adding the person, and then going to the Membership List and unchecking the 'mod' bit that is on by default. I'll be there's a much simpler command-line way to do it. Hope so! End original message. - You can do this easily from the web interface and not have to change the setting for each individual user. On the Privacy Options-Sender Filters page there is a setting to control if new members are moderated by default. You would want to set this to No before mass subscribing anyone else. At the bottom of the Membership Management page, you can set the moderation bit for all subscribers on a list to on or off in one operation. Dragon ~~~ Venimus, Saltavimus, Bibimus (et naribus canium capti sumus) ~~~ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Quicker way to subscribe someone?
At 04:30 PM 8/25/2006, Dragon wrote: You can do this easily from the web interface and not have to change the setting for each individual user. On the Privacy Options-Sender Filters page there is a setting to control if new members are moderated by default. You would want to set this to No before mass subscribing anyone else. At the bottom of the Membership Management page, you can set the moderation bit for all subscribers on a list to on or off in one operation. That still requires going to the admin page for each of 20 lists. I was thinking of using add_members on the command line, but I don't see a way to change the mod bit there (my default is to have it on, but I want it off for this person I'm adding to all lists). Any other ideas? Allan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Quicker way to subscribe someone?
Dragon sent the message below at 14:30 8/25/2006: Allan Trick sent the message below at 13:49 8/25/2006: Sorry to post so many questions in the space of a week to this list. I work at a school and all the changes we make to our mailing lists tend to take place just once a year--now. So in a few days I'll probably go away and you won't hear from me again till next summer. :-) My question this time is: is there a simpler way to subscribe one person to all 20 of our lists, and have the 'mod' bit unchecked for her? I've been going into each list thru the web interface, selecting Mass Subscription, adding the person, and then going to the Membership List and unchecking the 'mod' bit that is on by default. I'll be there's a much simpler command-line way to do it. Hope so! End original message. - You can do this easily from the web interface and not have to change the setting for each individual user. On the Privacy Options-Sender Filters page there is a setting to control if new members are moderated by default. You would want to set this to No before mass subscribing anyone else. At the bottom of the Membership Management page, you can set the moderation bit for all subscribers on a list to on or off in one operation. End original message. - I just added these two topics to the FAQ. http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.065.htp and http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.066.htp Dragon ~~~ Venimus, Saltavimus, Bibimus (et naribus canium capti sumus) ~~~ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Quicker way to subscribe someone?
Allan Trick wrote: My question this time is: is there a simpler way to subscribe one person to all 20 of our lists, and have the 'mod' bit unchecked for her? I've been going into each list thru the web interface, selecting Mass Subscription, adding the person, and then going to the Membership List and unchecking the 'mod' bit that is on by default. I'll be there's a much simpler command-line way to do it. Hope so! Consider something like #!/bin/sh for list in `bin/list_lists --bare` do echo $1 | bin/add_members -r - -w y -a n $list done in the Mailman installation directory, cd there and run ./script [EMAIL PROTECTED] See bin/add_members --help for an explaination of the options. You'll still need to set Privacy options-Sender filters-default_member_moderation to No for each list if you don't want the new member to be moderated. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] upgrading, changing MTA and moving between servers
Hi, For starters I have read the documentation available and done some googleing before this post. Today we have about 25-30 lists running on an old Debian Woody installation with postfix as MTA. Since the installation is old Mailman runs version 2.0.11. Our new server is running Qmail, Rhel4 and Mailman 2.1.5 and my question is about best practice for this migration. I've read some pages telling me that the administrative addresses has changed between these versions. I'm not sure if the best way is: 1) to create the lists on the new server, use the config-list script to export the config and the import this on the new server 2) just manually copy the lists/listname and archives directories to the new server 3) upgrade the old server to 2.1.5 and the move to new server? At this moment I prefer 1) since I'm really not that familiar with qmail and it would be nice if the system handled the creation of aliases. But how should I then procede? Should I run config-list to export/import or can I just copy som directories to the new server and fix the permissions and the URL:s? //kim -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] upgrading, changing MTA and moving between servers
Kim Leandersson wrote: I've read some pages telling me that the administrative addresses has changed between these versions. I'm not sure if the best way is: 1) to create the lists on the new server, use the config-list script to export the config and the import this on the new server Not the best way for two reasons. When you dump the config with config_list -o and then import with config_list -i, the 2.0 attributes which are redefined/replaced in 2.1 won't be properly converted. Transferring the list membership (via list_members - add_members) doesn't preserve all member options. 2) just manually copy the lists/listname and archives directories to the new server This is the way to go. Caveats - Do not create the list on the new server before the transfer. If you do, you will create a lists/listname/config.pck and Mailman will never see to lists/listname/config.db you move over. Does the domain name change? If so, you'll need to run fix_url on the moved lists and may want to rebuild the archives with bin/arch --wipe in order to fix the absolute links to the listinfo page on the archive index pages (or you can fix these manually or with a script). You will also have to deal with telling qmail about the lists, but I can't help with that. 3) upgrade the old server to 2.1.5 and the move to new server? No need to do this. 2) is sufficient. At this moment I prefer 1) since I'm really not that familiar with qmail and it would be nice if the system handled the creation of aliases. Mailman doesn't know qmail aliases. Mailman can do Postfix automatically (MTA = 'Postfix'), and exim and maybe others can be configured so aliases are not needed. There is a qmail-to-mailman.py script in the contrib directory of the distribution to eliminate the need for aliases in qmail, but I don't know to use it or what its limitations are. But how should I then procede? Should I run config-list to export/import or can I just copy som directories to the new server and fix the permissions and the URL:s? Do the latter as I indicate above. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Need to stop mailman
At 10:51 AM -0400 2006-08-25, Gary Hall wrote: I have set up a test list that only has the names of the principles of this mailing endeavor. We will first send out the adv to ourselves and be sure the adv looks as we expect it too and not other problems crop up. After the test run we will send out the adv to the main list. My primary reason for this is to check out this guy's html code every time - just in case. Keep in mind that what looks fine to your MUA may not look good in some other. This is the classic problem with HTML, especially as sent via e-mail, and most especially as that is processed and munged by mailing lists. Think about any particular web page, but as viewed by any of a zillion different web browsers -- not just Microsoft, but also Mozilla, Opera, iCab, Nokia, PalmOS, and every single other browser in existence. Now, multiply that problem by a factor of about a billion, because there are a lot of additional programs involved in the process that could munge the content beyond recognition. Fundamentally, if you are depending on HTML being properly formatted and transmitted to your clients using Mailman, you are playing the e-mail equivalent of Russian Roulette. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 Founding Individual Sponsor of LOPSA. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Need to stop mailman
Hi Brad, Good thoughts - thanks. This guy who is formulating the advertisements is the only one who is authorized to send mail to the server and have it delivered to the list. I am going to pass on your knowledge to him and hopefully he will take heed. Thanks again. Warm regards, Gary Brad Knowles wrote: At 10:51 AM -0400 2006-08-25, Gary Hall wrote: I have set up a test list that only has the names of the principles of this mailing endeavor. We will first send out the adv to ourselves and be sure the adv looks as we expect it too and not other problems crop up. After the test run we will send out the adv to the main list. My primary reason for this is to check out this guy's html code every time - just in case. Keep in mind that what looks fine to your MUA may not look good in some other. This is the classic problem with HTML, especially as sent via e-mail, and most especially as that is processed and munged by mailing lists. Think about any particular web page, but as viewed by any of a zillion different web browsers -- not just Microsoft, but also Mozilla, Opera, iCab, Nokia, PalmOS, and every single other browser in existence. Now, multiply that problem by a factor of about a billion, because there are a lot of additional programs involved in the process that could munge the content beyond recognition. Fundamentally, if you are depending on HTML being properly formatted and transmitted to your clients using Mailman, you are playing the e-mail equivalent of Russian Roulette. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Need to stop mailman
At 11:24 PM -0400 2006-08-25, Gary Hall wrote: This guy who is formulating the advertisements is the only one who is authorized to send mail to the server and have it delivered to the list. I am going to pass on your knowledge to him and hopefully he will take heed. Please note, my comments are aimed at the problem of fully compliant HTML that is hopelessly munged beyond recognition at one or more places where the message passes through. Most web browsers aren't actually fully compliant with HTML themselves, and things you may do to make things look better with one particular browser that is broken in one particular way may make things look worse for other browsers that may be broken in other ways. And the situation just gets worse when you throw in multiple different mail servers, one or more mailing list manager(s), and multiple different clients. If you don't have properly formed HTML in the first place, or it's not being sent by the appropriate people in the appropriate way, then that's a totally different problem. Anyway, good luck! -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 Founding Individual Sponsor of LOPSA. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
