Re: [Mailman-Users] line returns missing

2008-08-03 Thread David Gibbs

Michael:

I'm jumping into this thread midstream, but this comment caught my eye...


Some supposedly full-featured MUAs, Outlook  Exchange, have been
victims.


Some of those (so called) full-features MUA's specifically merge lines together when they shouldn't be ... and it's not even related to Mailman.  


This has caused me untold problems when it's not noticed.  A few months ago one 
of our QA people sent me a few commands intended to replicate a problem ... but 
Exchange, in it's infinite wisdom, (arbitrarily) wrapped two the lines into one 
... which caused the commands to fail.

Outlook does, however, inform the user when it's removed extra line breaks ... 
and you can click on the message to restore them.  The message is very easy to 
miss.

david

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Complaining Outlook users

2008-08-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

To be honest, that's exactly what on behalf of means, anyway, so I
don't understand why there's a problem here unless Outlook defaults to
reply-to-Sender rather than reply-to-From.


I've never used Outlook. I have no personal knowledge of this, but my
impression is thae following:

Mailman sends a post From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Sender:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Outlook displays the message as

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This is wrong. It would be more accurate if Outlook displayed

Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED]

but I don't know if that would make much difference to the user.

Also, it seems from what I see, that at least some Outlook clients do
reply_to_Sender rather than reply-to-From which is a problem.

Another problem is that some users get confused by bounces and think
it means something is wrong. [EMAIL PROTECTED] might be more
acceptable.

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[Mailman-Users] Periods in user email addresses rejected

2008-08-03 Thread Jay Deiman
I just got mailman up and running with Postfix and everything has been 
working perfectly except when someone tries to subscribe to the list 
that has a period in the user portion of the address.  For example: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  It gets rejected as an invalid email address by 
the web interface.


First, is this a setting somewhere that can be changed?  I've searched 
through the administrative settings and can't seem to find it.  I've 
also looked through the FAQs and can't find any reference to this issue. 
 I've tried Google, to no avail.  I would imagine that I'm not the 
first to pose this question...


Second, if there isn't an actual setting for this, please point me in 
the direction of the source file responsible for the (what I assume is 
an) email address regex so I can change this behavior.


Thank you,

Jay Deiman

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[Mailman-Users] Periods in user email addresses rejected

2008-08-03 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Jay Deiman writes:

  I just got mailman up and running with Postfix and everything has been 
  working perfectly except when someone tries to subscribe to the list 
  that has a period in the user portion of the address.  For example: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  It gets rejected as an invalid email address by 
  the web interface.

I've never heard of this before.  Just checking, but are you sure that
these mailboxes don't have periods in their display names rather than
(or as well as) their addresses?  That is, although

Stephen Turnbull [EMAIL PROTECTED]

is a valid mailbox according to RFC 2822,

Stephen J. Turnbull [EMAIL PROTECTED]

is not, and must be quoted

Stephen J. Turnbull [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(I don't think Mailman checks for this, but given that AFAICT from the
source, Mailman should not behave the way you describe, it's a guess.)

  First, is this a setting somewhere that can be changed?

No.  I would assume that the design is to allow anything that RFC 2822
does.  As far as I can tell, what you are seeing is a MMHostileAddress
as defined in Mailman/Errors.py, and the characters checked for are in
_badchars and _specials in Mailman/Utils.py.  However, '.' isn't in
there AFAICS, in a recently updated bzr checkout of 2.1.

What version of Mailman are you using?

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