Re: [Mailman-Users] mails without MIME delimiter break when sent through mailman
Hi all, thanks for your help, it is much appreciated. Mark wrote: This is a pre-MIME uuencoded attachment. Wow - ancient indeed. Must have been around the time i played text-based adventures in my local mailbox here. Whoops, memories coming up :-) However, I don't understand why adding msg_footer to the body would break the mail. Mailman should not be changing anything in the body between the begin and end delimiters so the uuencoded data chould be intact. And here Stephen is completely correct in assuming: I would guess that some recipient MUA readded uuencode support only as a bug fix without really thinking about what they were doing, and it's only supported at the end of a message in the MIME trailer. Mailman doesn't change anything in the body as such, however I get reports from multiple users that their MUAs do not show the picture as an attachment if there is a MIME object behind. At least the following MUAs seem to be affected: - Thunderbird 17.0.4 - Outlook 11 - Outlook 14 Outlook 14 (= MS Office 2010, if I remember correctly) is also the one producing the uuencoding. Google revealed that this seems to be a known issue and does indeed happen with attachments to plaintext-mails if the respective switch in outlook is set. So I will have that user correct his setting and all should be fine then. The fact that this did not happen before migrating to the current mailman version could (in this light) be due to a possible re-installation or user clicking around in outlook stupidly. That should solve my problem, thanks very much for your help and have a great weekend. Jan P.S.: Yes, msg_footer can be empty and Mailman won't add anything. N.B. IIRC, it has to be *empty*, not blank. Make sure there's no remnant of whitespace there, either. Of course :-) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Gmail RFC 2822
On 5/15/2013 10:45 AM, Dave Jones wrote, in part: I am not sure the best place to solve this problem but I will start with this list since the problem is impacting a heavy traffic mailman listserv. Since Mark did not respond to this, I will. Mailman is not listserv. Listserv is a registered trademark of L-soft, and is one of a number of Mailing List Management software packages available. Mailman is another MLM software package. (I first met the founder of L-soft when he was still a student in Paris.) --Barry Finkel -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] moving a mailing list to a new subdomain
I have a mailman install under cPanel, and I need to move my lists from listn...@bigdata.org to listn...@lists.bigdata.org. I've read quite a few webpages about how to move lists and rename lists, and I've done a lot of testing. I feel like I'm very close to getting this to work. The only problem that remains is scrubbed attachments. I've followed the directions at http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030617, and while it says that links to scrubbed attachments [that] point to the oldlist can be fixed with bin/arch --wipe newlist, this doesn't work for me. the command completes without error, but when I look at an archived message, the I still see URL: http://mail.bigdata.org/mailman/private/listname_bigdata.org/attachments/20130513/5d587194/attachment.obj I have two questions. 1. For the situation I described, are the instructions on that FAQ (moving the files) the ones I should be following? 2. Should the arch --wipe command really be fixing the links to the scrubbed attachments? I also tried renaming the list from list1 to list2 without changing the domain, and that didn't help. It seems like it should be easy enough change them manually, but I'd rather use whatever mechanism Mailman provides. Thanks. -- Matthew Needham The HDF Group 1800 South Oak Street, Suite 203 Champaign, IL 61820 217-531-6110 mneed...@hdfgroup.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Python remote urllib.request - mailman subscription
Hey list, I'm not sure if anyone has done this before (probably), but I figured I'd run my solution by those more knowledgeable of the inner workings of GNU Mailman. My Python 3 / PyGI / Gtk+ application, among other things, prompts a user for their name, email, and password, and then submits an http POST request to a hard coded remote GNU Mailman server. So far, the code appears to work and I'll request a peer review by anyone kind enough: http://rod.gs/Cbq One potential concern I've found is that it is difficult to machine parse the server response to reliably distinguish a successful subscription from a failure. A successful subscription returns an http code 200, but so do many failed ones (e.g. bad formatted email address is still code 200). The most reliable brute force method I could come up with was to check the message body of the returned HTML document for the substring Your subscription request has been received. Great, except since Mailman is i18n capable, its gettext could return something semantically equivalent, but obviously worded different if the locale is changed. However, since the server I am submitting the request to will probably always use the English user interface, this probably won't be an issue, but is still inelegant and I'd like to solve it. Moreover, even if it remains in English, but perhaps the string changes anyways when Mailman is upgraded, then it is a problem again. Does anyone have any suggestions or other feedback they'd like to share or propose a better solution? -- Kip Warner -- Software Engineer OpenPGP encrypted/signed mail preferred http://www.thevertigo.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] moving a mailing list to a new subdomain
An update... On May 16, 2013, at 14:48 PM, Matthew Needham mneed...@hdfgroup.org wrote: I have a mailman install under cPanel, and I need to move my lists from listn...@bigdata.org to listn...@lists.bigdata.org. I've read quite a few webpages about how to move lists and rename lists, and I've done a lot of testing. I feel like I'm very close to getting this to work. The only problem that remains is scrubbed attachments. I've followed the directions at http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030617, and while it says that links to scrubbed attachments [that] point to the oldlist can be fixed with bin/arch --wipe newlist, this doesn't work for me. the command completes without error, but when I look at an archived message, the I still see URL: http://mail.bigdata.org/mailman/private/listname_bigdata.org/attachments/20130513/5d587194/attachment.obj I have two questions. 1. For the situation I described, are the instructions on that FAQ (moving the files) the ones I should be following? 2. Should the arch --wipe command really be fixing the links to the scrubbed attachments? I also tried renaming the list from list1 to list2 without changing the domain, and that didn't help. It seems like it should be easy enough change them manually, but I'd rather use whatever mechanism Mailman provides. The URL in the archives is updated for attachments that were received when scrubbing is OFF. For attachments that were received when scrubbing is ON, the URL is not rewritten and still points to the old list. Incidentally, message headers report that this is Mailman 2.1.15. Thanks. -- Matthew Needham The HDF Group 1800 South Oak Street, Suite 203 Champaign, IL 61820 217-531-6110 mneed...@hdfgroup.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] moving a mailing list to a new subdomain
On 05/17/2013 08:45 AM, Matthew Needham wrote: An update... On May 16, 2013, at 14:48 PM, Matthew Needham mneed...@hdfgroup.org wrote: 1. For the situation I described, are the instructions on that FAQ (moving the files) the ones I should be following? They are as good as any. 2. Should the arch --wipe command really be fixing the links to the scrubbed attachments? I also tried renaming the list from list1 to list2 without changing the domain, and that didn't help. It seems like it should be easy enough change them manually, but I'd rather use whatever mechanism Mailman provides. The URL in the archives is updated for attachments that were received when scrubbing is OFF. For attachments that were received when scrubbing is ON, the URL is not rewritten and still points to the old list. The issue here is that bin/arch --wipe will fix the links to attachments scrubbed during the archiving process. However, for attachments scrubbed during incoming message processing because scrub_nondigest is Yes, the situation is different. The attachment was saved in the attachments directory and replaced by a link in the actual message body. Thus, the LIST.mbox file contains only the link in the body and the only place the scrubbed attachment exists is in the attachments directory on the old server. The only way to fix this is to move the actual files from the attachments directory on the old server and update the links manually or possibly with some programmatic process. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] moving a mailing list to a new subdomain
On 05/17/2013 10:34 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 05/17/2013 08:45 AM, Matthew Needham wrote: An update... On May 16, 2013, at 14:48 PM, Matthew Needham mneed...@hdfgroup.org wrote: 1. For the situation I described, are the instructions on that FAQ (moving the files) the ones I should be following? They are as good as any. I just updated them to include a warning about the scrub_nondigest situation. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Any way to change all members of a particular domain to another domain?
We are going to change one of the domain names we have. I have a few lists where members of these lists will need to have their email addresses changed. memb...@old-domain.com - memb...@new-domain.com I am aware of a few ways I could do this. One is pipe the list's members into a file, delete the list, and recreate the members. Or just do an add-the-new and delete-the-old. Is there any way other than this? Thanks steve campbell -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Any way to change all members of a particular domain to another domain?
On 05/17/2013 11:04 AM, Steve Campbell wrote: We are going to change one of the domain names we have. I have a few lists where members of these lists will need to have their email addresses changed. memb...@old-domain.com - memb...@new-domain.com I am aware of a few ways I could do this. One is pipe the list's members into a file, delete the list, and recreate the members. Or just do an add-the-new and delete-the-old. Is there any way other than this? See the script at http://www.msapiro.net/scripts/change_member_address.py. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
