Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing the send email address from 2.1

[Mark Sapiro]

On 1/31/20 10:40 AM, Evan Hansen wrote:

It will according to the mailman website.


If that's the case, that FAQ needs updating/correcting. I'll look into it.


all I want is for my mailing list
emails to be sent from my email as opposed to a bounce-m...@domain.com



Mail is sent with envelope from listname-boun...@example.com to enable 
automated bounce processing. It also contains that address in Sender: 
and Errors-To: headers. Normally issues with the display of this address 
in mail clients are due to the Sender: header. If your Mailman is 
2.1.14+ and the host has not changed the default, there will be an 
include_sender_header setting near the bottom of the list admin General 
Options page. Setting that to No may solve this for you.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on TMDHosting.com

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On 1/31/20 12:03 AM, Tim H via Mailman-Users wrote:

  I just moved a cluster of domains to TMDHosting.com
I had two Mailman mailing lists on the old service.  I made a gziped tarball of 
the entire account using the usual tool. Staff at TMD brought it over and in 
minutes all my files were in place.
But. They do not have Mailman in cPanel. They do not have Mailman available in 
Softalicious.  This is a shared hosting type of account.  I don't have root 
access to the server.
Their suggestion was to create an email address the same as the mailing list 
address, then use that to set up BCC to a group of contacts in Roundcube.
So I tried to create mymailingl...@mydomain.com
I could not create the address. Instead I got an error message saying a mailing 
list with that address already exists.
But the address does not show up in the list of email addresses in cPanel, so, 
I cannot delete it.
I didn't think about the Mailman mailing lists when I set up to do the 
transfer.  I took the time to save the member lists and some of the archives, 
but I should have gone ahead and deleted the lists. I did not suspect that the 
new service would not have Mailman.  Every web service provider I've been with 
in years and years has had Mailman.
So - what now?  Anyone on TMDHosting?  Have you been where I just landed?
Thanks.
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Hi Tim,

Screenshots of what you are seeing would be helpful. Are you sure 
Mailman is not accessible via cPanel? They are under Mailing Lists in 
the Email section of cPanel. Mailing lists and email accounts are 
treated as separate services on a cPanel server. Also Mailman is not 
available via Softaculous.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing the send email address from 2.1

[Evan Hansen]

It will according to the mailman website. all I want is for my mailing list
emails to be sent from my email as opposed to a bounce-m...@domain.com

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 12:31 PM Mark Sapiro  wrote:

> On 1/31/20 9:32 AM, Evan Hansen wrote:
> > problem is my host has root access disabled and I can't get to that file
> > without ssh commands and knowing the file location
>
> That doesn't matter because if I understand correctly, enabling Full
> Personalization won't accomplish what you want anyway. Please follow up
> on the list with more detail as to exactly what you want.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] acceptable_aliases does not seem to work (or more likely I don't understand) V2.1.23

[Mark Sapiro]

On 1/30/20 7:29 PM, stinga wrote:

G'day all,

I can't seem to get acceptable_aliases to work...


(domain names changed to protect the innocent, but all match up)

c...@lists.lf.me = List email address
i...@lf.me = Google group (google group has one email address which is 
c...@lists.lf.me

i...@lf.me is a member of the mailman list and is set for nomail

User anot...@domain.com sends email to i...@lf.me

List receives email and bounces with:

     List:    c...@lists.lf.me
     From:    anot...@domain.com
     Subject: Testing
     Reason:  Post by non-member to a members-only list

The above is correct as user anot...@domain.com is not a member of the 
mailman list



And that is the entire issue. acceptable_aliases and 
require_explicit_destination have nothing to do with this.




In the email header there is
To: 

I have in acceptable_aliases (tried various things)
i...@lf.me
"i...@lf.me"
.*i...@lf.me.*

and require_explicit_destination is yes

I believe that should allow email sent to i...@lf.me to be accepted by 
the list, maybe I am reading this all wrong?



All that does is avoid the message's being held for "implicit 
destination" it doesn't bypass other checks.



If I am doing this wrong how do I get a google email to send to mailman 
and be accepted?



There are a few of choices.

You can set Privacy options... -> Sender filters -> 
generic_nonmember_action to Accept in order to accept posts from any 
nonmember, but you may not want that.


You can ensure that everyone sending mail to i...@lf.me is a member of 
the c...@lists.lf.me list.


You can make use of the fact that mailman considers a post to be from a 
member if any of the From:, Reply-To: Sender: or envelope sender 
addresses is a list member. Posts from google groups generally have no 
Sender: header, and the envelope sender is something like 
'info+bncbcn2p7unuujrbfxhspsakgqe7gew...@googlegroups.com' where the 
'bncbcn2p7unuujrbfxhspsakgqe7gew6fa' may not be constant. However, 
messages from Google Groups have a


Reply-To: groupn...@googlegroups.com

header. If that address is a member of your list, it should be OK. You 
say i...@lf.me is a member of your list. Is that an address you control 
which forwards to the google group?. If so, you want to make 
groupn...@googlegroups.com a member of your list set to nomail. If in 
fact by i...@lf.me you mean the actual groupn...@googlegroups.com 
address, then I don't know what the problem is.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on TMDHosting.com

[Mark Sapiro]

On 1/30/20 9:03 PM, Tim H via Mailman-Users wrote:

  I just moved a cluster of domains to TMDHosting.com
I had two Mailman mailing lists on the old service.  I made a gziped tarball of 
the entire account using the usual tool. Staff at TMD brought it over and in 
minutes all my files were in place.
But. They do not have Mailman in cPanel.



As far as I know, every cPanel installation has Mailman 2.1.

The issue may be that they just dropped your files into somewhere in 
/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman. You can't just do that. cPanel's 
Mailman is different enough that the config.pck files aren't directly 
compatible and the file names and or locations maybe different to.


See .

Also, there are others on this list who are much more knowledgeable 
about cPanel Mailman than I am, and they may chime in.




So I tried to create mymailingl...@mydomain.com
I could not create the address. Instead I got an error message saying a mailing 
list with that address already exists.


Which indicates cPanel is aware of it.



But the address does not show up in the list of email addresses in cPanel, so, 
I cannot delete it.



You need advice from someone who knows more about Mailman in cPanel than 
I do.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing the send email address from 2.1

[Mark Sapiro]

On 1/31/20 8:09 AM, Evan Hansen wrote:

So when I went to the FAQ page it told me to select Non-Digest options and
go and select full personalization, however that isn't on the Non-digest
page nor could I locate it anywhere else within version 2.1.27. All i want
to do is modify the address my emails come from



The Personalization options are only available if the site allows it. If 
you have access to Mailman's mm_cfg.py, you an add


OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = Yes

to enable this, but if this is not your server, that is probably not 
possible.


In any case, Full Personalization only affects the To: header of the 
delivered mail, not the From:


You can hide the address of the sender of the post by setting 
anonymous_list to Yes on the ewb admin General Options page. If that is 
not what you want, please explain in more detail what you do want.


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[Mailman-Users] Changing the send email address from 2.1

[Evan Hansen]

So when I went to the FAQ page it told me to select Non-Digest options and
go and select full personalization, however that isn't on the Non-digest
page nor could I locate it anywhere else within version 2.1.27. All i want
to do is modify the address my emails come from
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman on TMDHosting.com

[Tim H via Mailman-Users]

 I just moved a cluster of domains to TMDHosting.com
I had two Mailman mailing lists on the old service.  I made a gziped tarball of 
the entire account using the usual tool. Staff at TMD brought it over and in 
minutes all my files were in place. 
But. They do not have Mailman in cPanel. They do not have Mailman available in 
Softalicious.  This is a shared hosting type of account.  I don't have root 
access to the server. 
Their suggestion was to create an email address the same as the mailing list 
address, then use that to set up BCC to a group of contacts in Roundcube.  
So I tried to create mymailingl...@mydomain.com
I could not create the address. Instead I got an error message saying a mailing 
list with that address already exists.  
But the address does not show up in the list of email addresses in cPanel, so, 
I cannot delete it.
I didn't think about the Mailman mailing lists when I set up to do the 
transfer.  I took the time to save the member lists and some of the archives, 
but I should have gone ahead and deleted the lists. I did not suspect that the 
new service would not have Mailman.  Every web service provider I've been with 
in years and years has had Mailman. 
So - what now?  Anyone on TMDHosting?  Have you been where I just landed?
Thanks.
Tim 
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[Mailman-Users] acceptable_aliases does not seem to work (or more likely I don't understand) V2.1.23

[stinga]

G'day all,

I can't seem to get acceptable_aliases to work...


(domain names changed to protect the innocent, but all match up)

c...@lists.lf.me = List email address
i...@lf.me = Google group (google group has one email address which is 
c...@lists.lf.me

i...@lf.me is a member of the mailman list and is set for nomail

User anot...@domain.com sends email to i...@lf.me

List receives email and bounces with:

List:c...@lists.lf.me
From:anot...@domain.com
Subject: Testing
Reason:  Post by non-member to a members-only list

The above is correct as user anot...@domain.com is not a member of the 
mailman list


In the email header there is
To: 

I have in acceptable_aliases (tried various things)
i...@lf.me
"i...@lf.me"
.*i...@lf.me.*

and require_explicit_destination is yes

I believe that should allow email sent to i...@lf.me to be accepted by 
the list, maybe I am reading this all wrong?


If I am doing this wrong how do I get a google email to send to mailman 
and be accepted?
i...@lf.me was a real email address and I converted to a group so that 
all on the list could see it rather than person having to deal with the 
email.
(I could have just forwarded the email in google but I didn;t want to 
have to deal with the email account that would never be looked at.)


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