[Mailman-Users] Re: Search box for archives

[Mark Dale via Mailman-Users]

On Sun, 2022-09-11 at 16:58 +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> > 
> > And you may first want to edit those new archtoc.html and
> > archtocnombox.html files. By default the search box is at the
> > bottom of
> > the page. I think it's better at the top.
> > 
> 
> 
> Thanks for that hint. It is not documented in the HOWTO.
> 
> 

It is well documented in the How-To:

http://bakacsin.ki.iif.hu/~kissg/project/mailman+namazu/

"Search ... In case of private lists this program checks if user is
authorized to access archive content. (Note: authorization is based on
regular membership only. Server and list administrator access rights
are disregarded. Enabling admin staff to search archives may be subject
of further development.) "

The HOW-TO is very good. It was written in 2007 so a couple of things
have changed (like package names). It needs VERY close attention to be
paid to the detail that the author has taken the trouble to write. I
wish all documentation was as good as this.



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[Mailman-Users] Re: Search box for archives

[Mark Dale via Mailman-Users]

On Sun, 2022-09-11 at 16:58 +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> However, looking at the two files, I see references to:
> 
> 
> 
> I suppose in my case this too has to be modified to reflect the
> correct path.
> With my MM2 installed in /usr/local/mailman2/ the above path then
> should become "/mailman/cgi-bin/search" ?? 
> 
> When I do a search now, I end up with an error saying "The requested
> URL was not found on this server." and the resulting URL in the
> address bar is:
> 
> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/cgi-bin/search?query=odhiambo=Search%21=KICTANet=20=normal=score
> 


Firstly, check your mm_cfg.py file. In my case it is: 

DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/'

Note that there is no "cgi-bin" in the above URL.

If that's the same for you, then yes you need to edit the new
archtoc.html and archtocnombox.html files accordingly.

There are 2 strings in each file that would need to be edited so they
look like:

1. 

2. [How to search]

Then rebuild the archive again: 

bin/arch --wipe 

And it won't hurt to tell Namazu to re-index the archive(s):

ls /var/lib/namazu/mailman | xargs $HOME/bin/mailman_index 

 

 



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[Mailman-Users] Re: Search box for archives

[dmitri maziuk]

On 2022-09-11 8:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote:


However, looking at the two files, I see references to:



I suppose in my case this too has to be modified to reflect the correct
path.
With my MM2 installed in /usr/local/mailman2/ the above path then should
become "/mailman/cgi-bin/search" ??


It references cgi-bin url in your httpd config. Or possibly DocumentRoot 
if you don't have a separate cgi-bin configured. Either way, url -> 
filesystem path mapping is in your httpd config.


Dima


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[Mailman-Users] Re: Search box for archives

[Odhiambo Washington]

On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 3:14 PM Mark Dale via Mailman-Users <
mailman-users@python.org> wrote:

> >
>
>
> > Answering myself on #2, I did figure out that the two files should go
> > to my
> > templates/{language}/ as drop-in replacements. I have done that but
> > accessing
> > the archives of my list still do not bring the search box as shown
> > here -
> > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/ - and I am thinking
> > that
> > there's something
> > minor that I am still missing.
>
> Once you've swapped in the new archtoc.html and archtocnombox.html
> files you need to run bin/arch --wipe 
>

> The renewed archive will then have the search box.
>

Thank you. That's what I was missing.
However, looking at the two files, I see references to:



I suppose in my case this too has to be modified to reflect the correct
path.
With my MM2 installed in /usr/local/mailman2/ the above path then should
become "/mailman/cgi-bin/search" ??

When I do a search now, I end up with an error saying "The requested URL
was not found on this server." and the resulting URL in the address bar is:

https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/cgi-bin/search?query=odhiambo=Search%21=KICTANet=20=normal=score



> If your archive is private you have to be logged as a member to use the
> search. It won't allow you to search if you're logged in as an
> administrator.
>
> And you may first want to edit those new archtoc.html and
> archtocnombox.html files. By default the search box is at the bottom of
> the page. I think it's better at the top.
>

Thanks for that hint. It is not documented in the HOWTO.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: Search box for archives

[Mark Dale via Mailman-Users]

> 


> Answering myself on #2, I did figure out that the two files should go
> to my
> templates/{language}/ as drop-in replacements. I have done that but
> accessing
> the archives of my list still do not bring the search box as shown
> here -
> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/ - and I am thinking
> that
> there's something
> minor that I am still missing.

Once you've swapped in the new archtoc.html and archtocnombox.html
files you need to run bin/arch --wipe 

The renewed archive will then have the search box.

If your archive is private you have to be logged as a member to use the
search. It won't allow you to search if you're logged in as an
administrator.

And you may first want to edit those new archtoc.html and
archtocnombox.html files. By default the search box is at the bottom of
the page. I think it's better at the top.




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[Mailman-Users] Re: Search box for archives

[Stephen J. Turnbull]

Odhiambo Washington writes:

 > 1. I am getting too many messages from cron which I am unable to address
 > because I am not a perl programmer:

I'm not, either.

 > Useless use of greediness modifier '?' in regex; marked by <-- HERE in
 > m/^\w+:{1,1}? <-- HERE / at /usr/local/share/namazu/filter/mp3.pl line 155.
 > 
 > I wonder if doing away with the "?" on that regex is sufficient. I have
 > done that, but I am unsure how it affects the indexing.

That's a very strange RE.  It appears say "you should match at least
one ':' and at most one ':' and if there is more than one way to match
that many ':' you should choose the shortest one that allows the whole
pattern to match".  A normal person would just write ':' instead of
':{1,1}?' but this is Perl code so ;-)

 > Where should I place these two files - archtoc.html and archtocnombox.html
 > - and how do I now integrate them in the whole setup to get the
 > searchbox?

I haven't done this is a very long time.  I assume those two files go
in the template directory, and probably you need to put a link to them
in each template where you a search function.  But if you want a
search box in the thread page, for example, you're going to need to
extract the search form from one of those search pages and add it to
the thread template, the date template, and the author template.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: Search box for archives

[Odhiambo Washington]

On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 12:26 PM Odhiambo Washington 
wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 11:01 AM Stephen J. Turnbull <
> stephenjturnb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Odhiambo Washington writes:
>>
>>  > What is the simplest way to add a searchbox for the archives?
>>
>> If you're talking about about Mailman 2's Pipermail, you need to
>> install and configure a separate application.  I think HT:Dig is most
>> popular, but I've only used Namazu, which worked well for me.  There's
>> a detailed FAQ on it: https://wiki.list.org/x/4030514, which says
>> there are maintained branches on LaunchPad with patches to integrate
>> HT:Dig.  That may be easiest.  Mark will know more when he gets back.
>>
>> Another formerly somewhat popular approach is to substitute MHonArc
>> for Pipermail, although that software is quite old now, and I'm not
>> sure about its security status.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> Great that you are using namazu. I hope you can help me with the bits I am
> stuck about using it.
>
> I have found a detailed HOWTO
>  for
> installing it on Linux, but I use FreeBSD.
> I have installed namazu on FreeBSD and configured it using the guide
> (while conforming to the FreeBSD file system layout), but I have two
> problems:
>
> 1. I am getting too many messages from cron which I am unable to address
> because I am not a perl programmer:
>
> Useless use of greediness modifier '?' in regex; marked by <-- HERE in
> m/^\w+:{1,1}? <-- HERE / at /usr/local/share/namazu/filter/mp3.pl line
> 155.
>
> I wonder if doing away with the "?" on that regex is sufficient. I have
> done that, but I am unsure how it affects the indexing.
>
> 2. The next step that I am not getting clear is how to now include the
> search box in each list's archive.
> In the guide, there is a section that talks about having
> /etc/mailman/*/{archtoc.html | archtocnombox.html} and I get lost right
> there.
> My mailman is installed in /usr/local/mailman2/ and nothing exists as
> /etc/mailman/ (which I believe is Linux file system layout).
> Where should I place these two files - archtoc.html and archtocnombox.html
> - and how do I now integrate them in the whole setup to get the searchbox?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

Answering myself on #2, I did figure out that the two files should go to my
templates/{language}/ as drop-in replacements. I have done that but
accessing
the archives of my list still do not bring the search box as shown here -
https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/ - and I am thinking that
there's something
minor that I am still missing.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Search box for archives

[Odhiambo Washington]

On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 11:01 AM Stephen J. Turnbull <
stephenjturnb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Odhiambo Washington writes:
>
>  > What is the simplest way to add a searchbox for the archives?
>
> If you're talking about about Mailman 2's Pipermail, you need to
> install and configure a separate application.  I think HT:Dig is most
> popular, but I've only used Namazu, which worked well for me.  There's
> a detailed FAQ on it: https://wiki.list.org/x/4030514, which says
> there are maintained branches on LaunchPad with patches to integrate
> HT:Dig.  That may be easiest.  Mark will know more when he gets back.
>
> Another formerly somewhat popular approach is to substitute MHonArc
> for Pipermail, although that software is quite old now, and I'm not
> sure about its security status.
>
> Steve
>

Hi Steve,

Great that you are using namazu. I hope you can help me with the bits I am
stuck about using it.

I have found a detailed HOWTO
 for
installing it on Linux, but I use FreeBSD.
I have installed namazu on FreeBSD and configured it using the guide (while
conforming to the FreeBSD file system layout), but I have two problems:

1. I am getting too many messages from cron which I am unable to address
because I am not a perl programmer:

Useless use of greediness modifier '?' in regex; marked by <-- HERE in
m/^\w+:{1,1}? <-- HERE / at /usr/local/share/namazu/filter/mp3.pl line 155.

I wonder if doing away with the "?" on that regex is sufficient. I have
done that, but I am unsure how it affects the indexing.

2. The next step that I am not getting clear is how to now include the
search box in each list's archive.
In the guide, there is a section that talks about having
/etc/mailman/*/{archtoc.html | archtocnombox.html} and I get lost right
there.
My mailman is installed in /usr/local/mailman2/ and nothing exists as
/etc/mailman/ (which I believe is Linux file system layout).
Where should I place these two files - archtoc.html and archtocnombox.html
- and how do I now integrate them in the whole setup to get the searchbox?

Thanks in advance.


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[Mailman-Users] Search box for archives

[Stephen J. Turnbull]

Odhiambo Washington writes:

 > What is the simplest way to add a searchbox for the archives?

If you're talking about about Mailman 2's Pipermail, you need to
install and configure a separate application.  I think HT:Dig is most
popular, but I've only used Namazu, which worked well for me.  There's
a detailed FAQ on it: https://wiki.list.org/x/4030514, which says
there are maintained branches on LaunchPad with patches to integrate
HT:Dig.  That may be easiest.  Mark will know more when he gets back.

Another formerly somewhat popular approach is to substitute MHonArc
for Pipermail, although that software is quite old now, and I'm not
sure about its security status.

Steve

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[Mailman-Users] Search box for archives

[Odhiambo Washington]

What is the simplest way to add a searchbox for the archives?

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