RE: [Mailman-Users] Analysis of reasons for bounce responses
Thanks for the response JC. I am checkig with exim and cpanel, to see if they can at least point me in the right direction. I checked my smtp-failure log in the mailman directory and are seeing hundreds of these. Aug 03 08:01:14 2003 (30019) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code 550: cannot route to sender address <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Aug 03 08:01:14 2003 (30019) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code 550: cannot route to sender address <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Aug 03 08:01:14 2003 (30019) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code 550: cannot route to sender address <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Aug 03 08:01:14 2003 (30019) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code 550: cannot route to sender address <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Aug 03 08:03:22 2003 (30019) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code 550: cannot route to sender address Is this attached to the bounce backs I am getting which usually say 550 REQUESTED ACTION DNS Failure Thanks for any help in advance -Original Message- From: JC Dill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:32 AM To: Christine De La Rosa; 'Richard Barrett' Cc: 'Mailman' Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Analysis of reasons for bounce responses At 09:30 PM 7/31/2003, Christine De La Rosa wrote: >Hi Richard, > >Here is what I know so far, mail for most list members seem to be going >through for the most part. About two weeks ago MM mass unscribed about >300 folx. Now we seem to have stablized the members but the owners of >the lists are getting routinely bounced. Yahoo email address do not >have a problem, aol is a major headache as is hotmail. This is a big clue that the MTA is improperly configured and is trying to deliver to the AOL and Hotmail servers messages for more recipients than those systems allow - triggering anti-spam filtering on the recipient MTA at AOL and Hotmail. The messages are then bounced. My guess is that they changed the MTA at around the same time they upgraded Mailman, and you are barking up the wrong tree to try to find the source of the problem. jc -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] Analysis of reasons for bounce responses
Oh I forgot to add, that my dedicated is also a nameserver (domain.com) with about 10 hosted domains (domain1.com, domain2.com...) Chris -Original Message- From: Richard Barrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 7:30 PM To: Christine De La Rosa Cc: 'Mailman' Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Analysis of reasons for bounce responses Chris On Friday, August 1, 2003, at 12:48 am, Christine De La Rosa wrote: > This is the EXACT problem I am having with mailman, using cpanel and > exim. I, however, am on a dedicated box and have root access. I have > been working on this problem for over three weeks. I am tired and > frustrated and wishing I knew a little more about mailman and its > inner workings. As I said in my post, this bounce issue is not, in my view, at heart a bug in Mailman. The evidence I saw of bounce notices from local MTA (Exim) say that the MTA is having problems getting outgoing mail off the system and finally bouncing it back to Mailman when it fails to do so. If you are getting final bounce notices from Mailman when it disables a subscriber because of these problems what is the reason reported in the bounce message from the MTA, which should be attached to the bottom of the final bounce notification from MM? In the example final bounce notice passed to me for comment the MTA was reporting it was having an IP routing problem; that is hardly a Mailman generated problem as far as I can tell. One of my problems with looking at this is I am trying to help out a fairly new user with a problem I have not seen on my systems, while I have no access to the Mailman or MTA logs on a system experiencing the problem. I have no standing with the CPanel owners to raise matters with them in case they are contributing to the problem with the way they set things up. Deeply frustrating. Let me know if you gain any insight or information related to this. > I come from a majordomo background. When I got this dedicated server, > it had mailman pre-installed so I thought kewl I will use it instead. > It ran fabulously until cpanel did their last upgrade. I have been in > hell since then. > > I wish I could help you, but I have not been able to figure out even > from the logs what the issues are. Granted, looking at the logs are > like gobbledigook to me. So I have spent a lot of time searching the > archives for this problem. Although, I haven't been able to find > anyone > with my specific issue. I can tell you that qrunner has been consuming > my cpu at astonishing rates. Mailman can consume large amounts of CPU when the MTA it is trying to hand mail over to repeatedly returns temporary failures. MM can be too aggressive in repeatedly trying to get the MTA to either accept or permanently fail the handover. There are changes in the Mailman CVS to moderate MM's efforts in this respect but so far as I know those changes are not available as a patch for MM 2.1.2 stable. This issue may be affecting you but I am no expert myself in setting up Exim so as to avoid this undesirable interaction; I do not see it with my Sendmail setup. There have been posts to mailman-users on the topic of high CPU utilisation. This one fromJon Carnes relates to Postfix MTA but its substance/recommendations may be applicable to Exim: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg17786.html > But there is no rhyme or reason to that, > that I can see. If I find anything out I will post it here. > > Chris > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On > Behalf Of Richard Barrett > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 5:08 AM > To: Mailman > Subject: [Mailman-Users] Analysis of reasons for bounce responses > > > This is not my problem but one soemone approached me about off list. > I'll summarise their situation and I would appreciate any thoughts, > comments, sanity checking on my analysis. > > Situation: > > 1. List admin's domain is hosted by a server run by a hosting company. > > 2. The server is (probably) running Linux > > 3. Mailman 2.1.2 is provided on the server with, I believe, CPanel > > 4. The server's MTA appears to be Exim 4.20 handling both incoming and > outgoing messages to/from Mailman > > 5. Mailman list's basically work OK much of the time > > 6. Periodically messages out from Mailman are being bounced en masse > leading to the subscriber accounts being disabled > > 7. The bounce response attached to the bounce action notice produced by > > Mailman when subscribers are disabled in these circumstances is from > the server local MTA. The MTA lists what appears to be all the > addresses to which the outgoing message was sent with a note against > each saying "unrouteable
RE: [Mailman-Users] Analysis of reasons for bounce responses
I checked my hosts file here it is # Do not remove the following line, or various programs # that require network functionality will fail. 127.0.0.1 alpha.domain2.com localhost 64.62.144.106 alpha.domain2.com localhost -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Carnes Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 10:47 PM To: Todd Cc: 'Mailman' Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Analysis of reasons for bounce responses If anyone has sysadmin access to a server running CPanel, I would be happy do some trouble-shooting on the problem. >From the aggregate complaints it sounds like Cpanel has introduced an error with Exim. It could be something as simple as a timeout value. Are the servers also running a local DNS server - and set to resolve using 127.0.0.1 as the primary nameserver? There are so many things that could be a problem... On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 20:43, Todd wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Christine De La Rosa wrote: > > When I got this dedicated server, it had mailman pre-installed so I > > thought kewl I will use it instead. It ran fabulously until cpanel > > did their last upgrade. I have been in hell since then. > > Unfortunately, I work on a site which is hosted using cPanel. It's a > far cry from the problem free experience I have with my own mailman > installs which "just work." When they finally did the upgrade to > 2.1.2, I had some immediate problems with bounces but then the server > admin applied an update from cPanel that seems to have fixed that. I > don't know it the bounces were at all similar to what you're having, > but I mention it in case you haven't applied whatever updates cPanel > has pushed out. It was either a mailman or exim update, I'm not sure > since I don't admin the box. > > Of course, the cPanel upgrade to 2.1.2 also broke some virtual host > stuff for me that I have yet to get the host to work out. I have > tried and tried to contact the folks at cPanel directly to find out > what patches they apply to mailman and request the sources for those > changes (as *required* by the > GPL) to no avail. They have simply ignored me. I find that really > annoying. If anyone knows of a way to reach someone at cPanel, please let > us know. I'd like to point out to them that they *need* to make their > changes available to the public. I'm not a fan of folks making money off of > the work of open source software and then not even having the courtesy of > honoring the few license requirements there are. > > - -- > Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp > == > == > I got stopped by a cop the other day. He said, "Why'd you run that stop > sign?" I said, "Because I don't believe everything I read." > -- Stephen Wright > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3rc2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. > > iD8DBQE/KbfEuv+09NZUB1oRAuC3AKCsj14RKywYjQtf3cXdIbFW2tOGtgCgsI7w > jQdIuKN2/Ut9E4BwKyiOH/o= > =27TD > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/chris%40christinede larosa.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] Analysis of reasons for bounce responses
Hi Richard, Here is what I know so far, mail for most list members seem to be going through for the most part. About two weeks ago MM mass unscribed about 300 folx. Now we seem to have stablized the members but the owners of the lists are getting routinely bounced. Yahoo email address do not have a problem, aol is a major headache as is hotmail. What is happening on my side is that the sub notices are never reaching the owners, so they are bouncing like mad and eventually hit the excessive bounce phase after five days (since we have the settings set to set to nomail after 5 bounces and mailman set to send notifcations once a day). I have been monitoring this list and the cpanel forums (http://forums.cpanel.net) to see if this issue is resolved. I have tried several of the fixes they had on there to no avail. Although they have set out a new fix http://forums.cpanel.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12740&highlight=mail man for the qrunner eating up cpu, but I haven't tried it yet. I am basically trying to find bits and pieces and make them into a whole that will fix my problems. this is clipped and pasted from a final bounce message I am getting from MM. Since I don't really know how to read bounces I am not sure if the issue is on my side, their side or somewhere in the middle. Please note that the email that bounced on the sub notice is getting all its mail from just regular list mail. Hope this helps! Back to the quest! Chris This is a Mailman mailing list bounce action notice: List: Vegas Member: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: Subscription disabled. Reason: Excessive or fatal bounces. The triggering bounce notice is attached below. Questions? Contact the Mailman site administrator at [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Mail Delivery System" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 08:02:13 -0700 This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SMTP error from remote mailer after MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: host mailin-01.mx.aol.com [152.163.224.26]: 550 REQUESTED ACTION NOT TAKEN: DNS FAILURE [EMAIL PROTECTED] SMTP error from remote mailer after MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SIZE=2643: host nymx-2.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.164]: 553 5.1.8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Domain of sender address [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not exist -- This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. -- Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from alpha.domain2.com ([127.0.0.1]) by alpha.domain2.com with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19h9UO-0006jA-VB; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 08:00:40 -0700 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=alpha.domain2.com) by alpha.domain.com with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19h9U7-0006h2-MD for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 08:00:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 3 Finewine moderator request(s) waiting From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 08:00:01 -0700 Precedence: bulk X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 List-Id: X-List-Administrivia: yes Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list has 3 request(s) waiting for your consideration at: Please attend to this at your earliest convenience. This notice of pending requests, if any, will be sent out daily. Pending subscriptions: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sue) Sat Jul 19 17:23:45 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (deborah) Thu Jul 24 22:38:08 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jen) Sun Jul 27 04:36:20 2003 _ -Original Message- From: Richard Barrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 7:30 PM To: Christine De La Rosa Cc: 'Mailman' Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Analysis of reasons for bounce responses Chris On Friday, August 1, 2003, at 12:48 am, Christine De La Rosa wrote: > This is the EXACT problem I am having with mailman, using cpanel and > exim. I, however, am on a dedicated box and have root access. I have > been working on this problem for over three weeks. I am tired and > frustrated and wishing I knew a little more about mailman and its > inner workings. As I said in my post, this bounce issue is not, in my view, at heart a bug in Mailman. The evidence I saw of bounce notices from local MTA (Exim) say that the MTA is having problems getting outgoing mail off the system and finally bouncing it back to Mailman when it fails to do so. If you are getting fin
RE: [Mailman-Users] Analysis of reasons for bounce responses
This is the EXACT problem I am having with mailman, using cpanel and exim. I, however, am on a dedicated box and have root access. I have been working on this problem for over three weeks. I am tired and frustrated and wishing I knew a little more about mailman and its inner workings. I come from a majordomo background. When I got this dedicated server, it had mailman pre-installed so I thought kewl I will use it instead. It ran fabulously until cpanel did their last upgrade. I have been in hell since then. I wish I could help you, but I have not been able to figure out even from the logs what the issues are. Granted, looking at the logs are like gobbledigook to me. So I have spent a lot of time searching the archives for this problem. Although, I haven't been able to find anyone with my specific issue. I can tell you that qrunner has been consuming my cpu at astonishing rates. But there is no rhyme or reason to that, that I can see. If I find anything out I will post it here. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Barrett Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 5:08 AM To: Mailman Subject: [Mailman-Users] Analysis of reasons for bounce responses This is not my problem but one soemone approached me about off list. I'll summarise their situation and I would appreciate any thoughts, comments, sanity checking on my analysis. Situation: 1. List admin's domain is hosted by a server run by a hosting company. 2. The server is (probably) running Linux 3. Mailman 2.1.2 is provided on the server with, I believe, CPanel 4. The server's MTA appears to be Exim 4.20 handling both incoming and outgoing messages to/from Mailman 5. Mailman list's basically work OK much of the time 6. Periodically messages out from Mailman are being bounced en masse leading to the subscriber accounts being disabled 7. The bounce response attached to the bounce action notice produced by Mailman when subscribers are disabled in these circumstances is from the server local MTA. The MTA lists what appears to be all the addresses to which the outgoing message was sent with a note against each saying "unrouteable mail domain maildomain.tld". The bounce response asserts that this is a permanent failure. The messages are each being sent to a number of different mail domains not just a single one 8. The list admin with the problem has no access to either the Mailman or MTA logs 9. The server administrator is supposedly claiming that these bounces are a result of "a bug in Mailman for which no patch is available" My analysis is: 1. The problem is not obviously due to any bug in Mailman 2. The problem is more likely due to an IP routing problem which periodically afflicts the server and its ability to reach the MTAs for the mail domains addressed by the outgoing messages 3. The MTA is accepting the outgoing messages from Mailman and then finding it has problems of its own in delivering mail which are unrelated to Mailman as the origin of the messages But I have to concede I know nothing about Exim 4.20. I know even less about CPanel. Any thoughts or anatomically feasible suggestions welcome. - Richard Barrett http://www.openinfo.co.uk -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/chris%40christinede larosa.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Sending mail question
Prior to the upgrade on my server my mail was being sent out by [EMAIL PROTECTED] now it is being sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this a correct setting? Thanks Christine -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] Am I doing something wrong?
I am sorry, I hadn't seen a response from Richard Barret. I checked the archives and there it was. Thanks Jon for pointing that out. Chris -Original Message- From: Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 8:02 AM To: Christine De La Rosa Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Am I doing something wrong? Christine, I don't see where you ever responded to Richard Barret who kindly answered your question with a most pertinent response (you have look in the MTA logs to see what is really going on). If you did respond, my apologies. Jon Carnes On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 08:48, Christine De La Rosa wrote: > Am I missing some ettiquette for this list? I have sent two questions > to the list with no responses. I am wondering if they have never been > seen before therefore no one has the answer, or if they are so simple > they seem too stupid to answer. I am having so many problems with the > new mailman upgrade, I really need help. If I am on the wrong list > can someone point me to the right area to ask for help? > > Thanks > Chris > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] Trying again
Thanks for the info Richard. At the risk of sounding like a total rookie, where would those logs be found? I have checked the logs in the mailman folder but none of them are called MTA logs, would they be under another name? Thanks Chris On Thursday, July 24, 2003, at 09:16 PM, Christine De La Rosa wrote: I am having a new issue, again I have searched the archives, but see no resolution. My list owners receive email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is supposed to be forwarded to their private email. When the system sends out the notification of pending request it is sending it to the private email, for some reason the email never reaches them even though their emails are perfectly fine, You could try checking your MTA log to see if these outbound messages from Mailman to the list admin's email address are being sent out by Mailman and accepted by the MTA. You might then be able to track down if and where the message is being bounced. so it bounces I guess and then disables them after so many tries. I would really appreciate help with this issue. My list wranglers are being kicked off their own list on a daily basis. Christine -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Am I doing something wrong?
Am I missing some ettiquette for this list? I have sent two questions to the list with no responses. I am wondering if they have never been seen before therefore no one has the answer, or if they are so simple they seem too stupid to answer. I am having so many problems with the new mailman upgrade, I really need help. If I am on the wrong list can someone point me to the right area to ask for help? Thanks Chris -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Trying again
I am having a new issue, again I have searched the archives, but see no resolution. My list owners receive email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is supposed to be forwarded to their private email. When the system sends out the notification of pending request it is sending it to the private email, for some reason the email never reaches them even though their emails are perfectly fine, so it bounces I guess and then disables them after so many tries. I would really appreciate help with this issue. My list wranglers are being kicked off their own list on a daily basis. Christine -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Uncaught Bounce Notifications w/ Auto Responder
Hello again, I checked the archives but couldn't find anything that addressed this particular issue. I am on the latest release of mailman. I have each of my lists set to send out and auto-responder questionnaire. Prior to the upgrade it used to be sent by listname-owner, now it is being sent by listname-bounces, so when the user hits reply to send back the questionnaire it is replying to listname-bounces. What this does is send the email back to the owner with this in the subject line Uncaught bounce notification. How do I fix this? Thanks Christine -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Auto-Responder Question
Hello all, I am a mailman newbie although I have been running mailing lists with majordomo for about five years. I have community website and we run about 30 lists. I have a dedicated RedHat Linux box running cpanel. Recently the cpanel folx upgraded my cpanel and also my mailman (I didn't know about it). Now I am running mailman 2.1.2. I am going to post a few questions I have, but wanted to break them out into individual emails for future searching purposes. Here is my first question. I have my lists set up to send a questionnaire using the auto-respond to -request feature. I noticed that if a potential member clicks on the link provided in the confirm subscribe email they do not receive that questinnaire. They will only receive it if they reply to the email with the confirm+number. Is this how mailman works? Or is this a feature I can change? I want the questionnaire to be sent out if they reply to the confirm subscribe email or if they click on the link. Thanks in advance. Christine -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org