Re: [Mailman-Users] Preferred Language

2003-03-19 Thread Dallas Bethune 
Hi,

That setting just refers to the language mailman will use when  
displaying its web interface pages and for all of its own generated  
emails.  It won't do anything to messages your users send to the list.

That would be a neat feature, but I think it's a little beyond the  
scope of the mailman project.  8-)

	Dallas

On Wednesday, March 19, 2003, at 04:46 pm, ghhalley wrote:

I'm a newbie to Mailman so be easy on me

First of all, thanks to all of the developers.  The setup of 2.1.1 was
relatively simple.  Good docs and test scripts!  Thanks
I want to make sure I understand a button on the list information
page.  If you subscribe it askes
Which language do you prefer to display your messages?  English (USA)

If I set up a list with multiple languages and the chooser picks a
different language than the sender posts to the list -- wouldn't the
message appear garbled?  There is no translation inherent to Mailman
2.1.1, is there?
Thanks in advance,
George


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Updating virtual-mailman Database

2003-03-20 Thread Dallas Bethune 
I think it's probably safe to edit the file by hand in this case.

	Dallas



On Thursday, March 20, 2003, at 07:36 am, Jeremy Butler wrote:

I know that one is not supposed to manually edit virtual-mailman, but  
I've run into a problem where aliases were not deleted when I removed  
a list and then recreated it again with the same name.

Consequently, I've got duplicate entires (see below).

Any suggestions as to what I should do about this?  Thanks!

--- virtual-mailman ---

# STANZA START: scmscj
# CREATED: Wed Mar 19 13:43:35 2003
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  scmscj
[EMAIL PROTECTED]scmscj-admin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  scmscj-bounces
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  scmscj-confirm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] scmscj-join
[EMAIL PROTECTED]scmscj-leave
[EMAIL PROTECTED]scmscj-owner
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  scmscj-request
[EMAIL PROTECTED]scmscj-subscribe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  scmscj-unsubscribe
# STANZA END: scmscj
# STANZA START: scmscj
# CREATED: Thu Mar 20 09:27:49 2003
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  scmscj
[EMAIL PROTECTED]scmscj-admin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  scmscj-bounces
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  scmscj-confirm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] scmscj-join
[EMAIL PROTECTED]scmscj-leave
[EMAIL PROTECTED]scmscj-owner
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  scmscj-request
[EMAIL PROTECTED]scmscj-subscribe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  scmscj-unsubscribe
# STANZA END: scmscj


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Knocked out cgi group (gid)

2003-03-20 Thread Dallas Bethune 
Either reconfigure mailman and reinstall, or change the Group directive  
in your apache config back to what mailman is expecting.

	Dallas

On Thursday, March 20, 2003, at 09:17 am, Mark Gillingham wrote:

Yesterday I was trying to change the certificate on my server because  
the name of the server changed. Something I did got me in trouble. Now  
mailman reports that it is expecting gid=48 (apache) but getting  
gid=502 (webmaster). I double-checked httpd.conf to see what group  
Apache wants and it is "webmaster." I had not changed this. In fact, I  
don't understand what I changed. What's my best course?

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[Mailman-Users] problem with message subjects

2003-03-20 Thread Dallas Bethune 
Has anyone seen this problem before? :


 | -Original Message-
 | Subject: [botequim] RES: [botequim] RES: [botequim] Início
 | da fase beta


Mailman is not removing the extra [botequim] headers here.  The list is 
spanish language and we're using Mailman 2.0.13.  We can't upgrade yet, 
but are working on it.

Is it getting confused because of the RES: intead of Re: ?  How does 
Mailman figure out how to remove the extra subject stuff?

Any help for me?  Will Mailman 2.1 take care of this better?

	Dallas

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Re: [Mailman-Users] problem with message subjects

2003-03-20 Thread Dallas Bethune 
On Thursday, March 20, 2003, at 10:50 am, Stephan Berndts wrote:

| -Original Message-
| Subject: [botequim] RES: [botequim] RES: [botequim] Início
| da fase beta
Mailman is not removing the extra [botequim] headers here.
Is it getting confused because of the RES: intead of Re: ?
No, it's because the subject was MIME-encoded.
Ah, makes sense.


Any help for me?  Will Mailman 2.1 take care of this better?
I'm having problems with MM2.1 as well.
Do you know if there are any plans to correct this?  Should I ask the 
mailman developers list?

	Dallas

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Errors when creating a new list in v.2.1

2003-03-20 Thread Dallas Bethune 
It looks like this command failed:
 /usr/sbin/postalias /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases
It's probably a permissions issue.  Is the web server user able to  
write to that directory?

	Dallas

On Tuesday, March 18, 2003, at 07:28 pm, Ted Dively wrote:

I just tried to create a list via the http interface, and Mailman  
returned this error message. Any ideas, fellow listers? As always,  
thanks for your patience, understanding, and guidance.

Ted Dively
 ***
Bug in Mailman version 2.1
We're sorry, we hit a bug!

If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy  
of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what  
happened. Thanks!

Traceback:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
main()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 55, in main
process_request(doc, cgidata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 217, in  
process_request
sys.modules[modname].create(mlist, cgi=1)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 226, in create
_update_maps()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 47, in  
_update_maps
raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr)
RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias  
/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted)





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Re: [Mailman-Users] Quick Question

2003-03-20 Thread Dallas Bethune 
On Tuesday, March 18, 2003, at 08:07 am, Pam Buffington wrote:

Hello,
   Is it possible to create a list such that users can not unsubscribe
themselves without moderator approval?
Yep, in the Privacy Options.
"Is the list moderator's approval required for unsubscription requests?  
"


Also, is it possible to restrict posting to a list so that all messages
from a domain are accepted? IE only people with cc.gatech.edu in
their e-mail addresses can post to a list?
Look in Sender Filters under Privacy Options.  I think that will do  
what you want.

	Dallas


Thanks
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Using Mailman with Apache James

2003-03-22 Thread Dallas Bethune 
Hi,

I don't know anything about Apache James, but if it doesn't accept  
pipes as aliases, it's probably not going to work with mailman or any  
list server software.

	Dallas



On Friday, March 21, 2003, at 05:58 pm, Güray Sen wrote:

Hullo everyone,

Has anyone got Mailman to work with the Apache James mail server? I  
seem to be running into a configuration problem. After creating the  
list Test, Mailman tells me to setup the following aliases:

## test mailing list
## created: 21-Mar-2003 root
test:"|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper post test"
test-admin:  "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner  
test"
test-request:"|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test"
test-owner:  test-admin

Easy enough if you are using sendmail, because you can just copy&paste  
the above into /etc/aliases and run "newaliases". What about James? I  
can create aliases with the Remote Administrator, but I don't think  
James supports the piping construct.

Any idea's appreciated.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] members_posting_only

2003-03-25 Thread Dallas Bethune 
In Mailman 2.1.1, look in the Privacy Options and Sender Filters.

	Dallas



On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, at 07:51 am, Serdar Ozler wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to use mailman in my web site, but I have a
problem with the posting restrictions. I want to make
only the members be able to post messages. I set the
members_posting_only to Yes and it works great.
However, I want all other messages (coming from
non-members) to be automatically discarded without
waiting for my approval.
I cannot find the related configuration option. Where
can I set that?
Thanks.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Setup an announce list

2003-03-25 Thread Dallas Bethune 
On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, at 08:32 am, Richard Barrett wrote:

We are a tiny bit cautious about upgrading from 2.0.13 to 2.1.1 on a 
live system.

Are there any problems, or advice on things to be careful of?

Regards
Rod
My experience my be a little unique because I actually upgraded from 
Mailman 1.1 to 2.1.1, but I did run into some problems.  About 1/3 of 
my lists didn't upgrade properly for some reason so I ended up sort of 
painfully reconstructing them from the information I did have.  I'd 
suggest dumping the configurations of all your lists before you start 
just to make sure recovery is relatively easy.

	Dallas

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Re: [Mailman-Users] RE: Disabling Passwords

2003-03-26 Thread Dallas Bethune 
I'm not sure how he set it up, but you could just set up a  
'subscription form' or whatever that your users fill in that hooks into  
a cgi script that just sends off an email to the appropriate mailman  
subscribe address.  If you subscribe an address via email with mailman,  
it will just make up a random password for the user.  If your users  
don't need to use it ever, they'll never know the difference.

	Dallas

On Wednesday, March 26, 2003, at 05:00 pm, Sullivan, John wrote:

Is that a manual process? Do they send the unsubscribe to you and then  
you
take them off the list or is that a scripted feature of 2.1 that is not
available in 2.0.

If it is not manual how did you go about configuring it..

Thanks for your help..

John

-Original Message-
From: Larry Hansford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:06 PM
To: Sullivan, John
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Disabling Passwords
At 07:28 PM 3/26/2003, you wrote:
I am using Mailman V 2.0



I want to know how I can disable the need for a new subscriber to  
create
password. I think the subscribers are going to find it quite annoying  
that
they have to create a password for our newsletter. They should just  
have
subscribe and unsubscribe options...
I use v2.1.1, and have a lot of lists set up as "Newsletter" style, and
none of the users are given passwords.  Since I don't allow archiving  
of
the newsletters, and they don't want/need to go to the web page to  
change
their settings, they are subscribed and unsubscribed without notices  
being
sent to the members.

Larry




Your Comments are appreciated...



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Do I need an MX Record

2003-03-28 Thread Dallas Bethune 
From the last error there, it looks like your mail server is trying to  
deliver mail for lists.mlsnet.com to an smtp server at 12.105.18.209.   
I don't know what server that is, but it needs to be running an some  
sort of smtp server to accept email.  If that is not where the email  
should be going, then an MX record may be appropriate to point it to  
the appropriate location.

	Dallas

On Friday, March 28, 2003, at 08:56 am, Sullivan, John wrote:

Hi all - I am having some problems sending out emails to my lists.



I have Red Hat 8.0

Sendmail

MailMan 2.0.1



I have a test lists set up with test users.



When a user subscribes to the list they get a confirmation from the  
mailman
server but when they reply there email seems to just get lost.

When I send out an email to the list nothing gets delivered.

My server name is lists.mlsnet.com and my list is called 90minutes and  
I
should be able to send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  to send an email to all of the
subscribers.



Here is some log errors from maillog file:





Mar 28 11:48:21 localhost sendmail[10484]: h2SGmKFc010484: from=root,
size=388, class=0, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=localhost  
[[UNIX:
localhost]]

Mar 28 11:48:22 localhost sendmail[10486]: h2SGmLjh010486:
from=<

[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=577, class=0, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP,  
daemon=MTA,
relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]

Mar 28 11:48:22 localhost sendmail[10484]: h2SGmKFc010484:
[EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:02,
xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=relay, pri=30387, relay=localhost.mlsnet.com.
[127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (h2SGmLjh010486 Message accepted for
delivery)
Mar 28 11:49:22 localhost sendmail[10488]: h2SGmLjh010486:
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ctladdr=<

[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (0/0),
delay=00:01:01, xdelay=00:01:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=30576,
relay=lists.mlsnet.com. [12.105.18.209], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred:
Connection
timed out with lists.mlsnet.com.



Do I need to have MX Records setup on my external DNS for this server?



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Do I need an MX Record

2003-03-28 Thread Dallas Bethune 
In general, an MX record is not necessary if you have an A record.   
That's probably not your problem here.

Are you sure sendmail is running on the list server?  Can you connect  
to port 25 on it?  Is it properly configured to accept mail?

	Dallas

On Friday, March 28, 2003, at 09:25 am, Sullivan, John wrote:

In my network I have a corporate mail server set up that handles all  
the
email for mlsnet.com

I have setup the RedHat box so I can send out email to newsletter
subscribers - I didn't want to put the heavy load on my corporate mail
server.
The RedHat box has sendmail on it and should be the box that handles  
emails
for lists.mlsnet.com (incoming should be delivered to this box)
Also the IP for this box is the 12.105.18.209 address referenced below.

I have an A record setup for lists.mlsnet.com - I do not have an MX  
record
setup for it though.

How do I set the box up so it handles all email sent to  
@lists.mlsnet.com?

Thanks for your help..

-Original Message-----
From: Dallas Bethune [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:21 PM
To: Sullivan, John
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Do I need an MX Record
 From the last error there, it looks like your mail server is trying to
deliver mail for lists.mlsnet.com to an smtp server at 12.105.18.209.
I don't know what server that is, but it needs to be running an some
sort of smtp server to accept email.  If that is not where the email
should be going, then an MX record may be appropriate to point it to
the appropriate location.
	Dallas

On Friday, March 28, 2003, at 08:56 am, Sullivan, John wrote:

Hi all - I am having some problems sending out emails to my lists.



I have Red Hat 8.0

Sendmail

MailMan 2.0.1



I have a test lists set up with test users.



When a user subscribes to the list they get a confirmation from the
mailman
server but when they reply there email seems to just get lost.
When I send out an email to the list nothing gets delivered.

My server name is lists.mlsnet.com and my list is called 90minutes and
I
should be able to send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  to send an email to all of the
subscribers.


Here is some log errors from maillog file:





Mar 28 11:48:21 localhost sendmail[10484]: h2SGmKFc010484: from=root,
size=388, class=0, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=localhost
[[UNIX:
localhost]]
Mar 28 11:48:22 localhost sendmail[10486]: h2SGmLjh010486:
from=<
<http://lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/
compose?curmbox=F5&a=fa
f76a38f4023445548c138e0ad20419&mailto=1&[EMAIL PROTECTED]& 
m
sg=MS
G1048870350.86&start=1072965&len=2281&src=&type=x>
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=577, class=0, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP,
daemon=MTA,
relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]

Mar 28 11:48:22 localhost sendmail[10484]: h2SGmKFc010484:
[EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:02,
xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=relay, pri=30387, relay=localhost.mlsnet.com.
[127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (h2SGmLjh010486 Message accepted for
delivery)
Mar 28 11:49:22 localhost sendmail[10488]: h2SGmLjh010486:
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ctladdr=<
<http://lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/
compose?curmbox=F5&a=fa
f76a38f4023445548c138e0ad20419&mailto=1&[EMAIL PROTECTED]& 
m
sg=MS
G1048870350.86&start=1072965&len=2281&src=&type=x>
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (0/0),
delay=00:01:01, xdelay=00:01:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=30576,
relay=lists.mlsnet.com. [12.105.18.209], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred:
Connection
timed out with lists.mlsnet.com.



Do I need to have MX Records setup on my external DNS for this server?



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Sendmail port 25

2003-03-28 Thread Dallas Bethune 
Either sendmail is not binding to an IP that's reachable from the  
outside (by default it should bind to all the IP's on the machine,  
though) or maybe you have some sort of firewall blocking off port 25.   
Something like that?

	Dallas

On Friday, March 28, 2003, at 11:18 am, Sullivan, John wrote:

Configuring sendmail to listen on Port 25 for external connections  
should
not be that difficult to do. (but I am a newbie so I don't know much)

Can anyone point me in the right direction and let me know how I can
accomplish this..
Sendmail is running, from the local host I can telnet to port 25 no  
problem
but from any other machine I cannot get a connection to port 25. Any  
know
what I can do to resolve this?

Thanks..

-Original Message-
From: Sullivan, John
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:51 PM
To: 'David Chait'
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Do I need an MX Record
If I do a ps aux | grep "sendmail" I have some processes running.

Sendmail is an MTA right?

-Original Message-
From: David Chait [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:58 PM
To: Sullivan, John
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Do I need an MX Record
If you can't connect to 25 then you don't have an MTA installed...

- Original Message -
From: "Sullivan, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Dallas Bethune'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:38 AM
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Do I need an MX Record

Ahh that's my problem - I can NOT connect to port 25.

Can someone help me out with trying to get that working? My deadline  
is
quickly approaching and I am nervous.

Thanks..

-Original Message-
From: Dallas Bethune [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:41 PM
To: Sullivan, John
Cc: 'Bill Hilburn'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Do I need an MX Record
In general, an MX record is not necessary if you have an A record.
That's probably not your problem here.
Are you sure sendmail is running on the list server?  Can you connect
to port 25 on it?  Is it properly configured to accept mail?
Dallas

On Friday, March 28, 2003, at 09:25 am, Sullivan, John wrote:

In my network I have a corporate mail server set up that handles all
the
email for mlsnet.com
I have setup the RedHat box so I can send out email to newsletter
subscribers - I didn't want to put the heavy load on my corporate  
mail
server.

The RedHat box has sendmail on it and should be the box that handles
emails
for lists.mlsnet.com (incoming should be delivered to this box)
Also the IP for this box is the 12.105.18.209 address referenced  
below.

I have an A record setup for lists.mlsnet.com - I do not have an MX
record
setup for it though.
How do I set the box up so it handles all email sent to
@lists.mlsnet.com?
Thanks for your help..

-Original Message-
From: Dallas Bethune [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:21 PM
To: Sullivan, John
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Do I need an MX Record
 From the last error there, it looks like your mail server is trying  
to
deliver mail for lists.mlsnet.com to an smtp server at 12.105.18.209.
I don't know what server that is, but it needs to be running an some
sort of smtp server to accept email.  If that is not where the email
should be going, then an MX record may be appropriate to point it to
the appropriate location.

Dallas

On Friday, March 28, 2003, at 08:56 am, Sullivan, John wrote:

Hi all - I am having some problems sending out emails to my lists.



I have Red Hat 8.0

Sendmail

MailMan 2.0.1



I have a test lists set up with test users.



When a user subscribes to the list they get a confirmation from the
mailman
server but when they reply there email seems to just get lost.
When I send out an email to the list nothing gets delivered.

My server name is lists.mlsnet.com and my list is called 90minutes  
and
I
should be able to send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  to send an email to all of the
subscribers.



Here is some log errors from maillog file:





Mar 28 11:48:21 localhost sendmail[10484]: h2SGmKFc010484:  
from=root,
size=388, class=0, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=localhost
[[UNIX:
localhost]]

Mar 28 11:48:22 localhost sendmail[10486]: h2SGmLjh010486:
from=<
<http://lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/
compose?curmbox=F5&a=fa
f76a38f4023445548c138e0ad20419&mailto=1&[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
n&
m
sg=MS
G1048870350.86&start=1072965&len=2281&src=&type=x>
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=577, class=0, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP,
daemon=MTA,
relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]

Mar 28 11:48:22 localhost sendmail[10484]: h2SGmKFc010484:
[EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:02,
xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=relay, pri=30387

Re: [Mailman-Users] RE: Disabling Passwords

2003-03-31 Thread Dallas Bethune 
You can also unsubscribe via email so if you set up something to store  
the user's passwords somewhere, you could have another email form to  
cgi setup send off the appropriate unsubscribe request for you.

	Dallas



On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 08:45 am, Don V Black wrote:

I want my users to easily unsubscribe without needing to use a  
password.

Does this do it? Where is this field located? :
"I set subscriptions to require approval, but not unsubscriptions"
- Don V Black, Founder
  Digital ChoreoGraphics
At 09:39 PM 3/26/2003 -0500, Larry Hansford wrote:
At 08:23 PM 3/26/2003, Dallas Bethune wrote:

I'm not sure how he set it up, but you could just set up a
'subscription form' or whatever that your users fill in that hooks  
into
a cgi script that just sends off an email to the appropriate mailman
subscribe address.  If you subscribe an address via email with  
mailman,
it will just make up a random password for the user.  If your users
don't need to use it ever, they'll never know the difference.

Dallas
That's basically it.

I disabled:
   Sending Welcome Message
   Sending Goodbye Message
   Sending password reminders
   Digests
   Archives
I removed the footer with the web link
I set all list members as Moderated, except the ones allowed to post  
to the list
I set all moderated members or non-members to reject with a message  
of the address to send mail to
I set an Explicit Reply-To address
I set subscriptions to require approval, but not unsubscriptions

Initial setup is done with mass subscriptions.  Large lists are  
broken down into multiple text files with 1,000 names or less per  
list, and then mass subscriptions done multiple times.

Subsequent subscriptions are done either via the List Owner adding  
them, or via e-mail subscribe. the same with unsubscribes.

I think that is basically the setup.

Larry




On Wednesday, March 26, 2003, at 05:00 pm, Sullivan, John wrote:

Is that a manual process? Do they send the unsubscribe to you and  
then
you
take them off the list or is that a scripted feature of 2.1 that is  
not
available in 2.0.

If it is not manual how did you go about configuring it..

Thanks for your help..

John

-Original Message-
From: Larry Hansford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:06 PM
To: Sullivan, John
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Disabling Passwords
At 07:28 PM 3/26/2003, you wrote:
I am using Mailman V 2.0



I want to know how I can disable the need for a new subscriber to
create
password. I think the subscribers are going to find it quite  
annoying
that
they have to create a password for our newsletter. They should just
have
subscribe and unsubscribe options...
I use v2.1.1, and have a lot of lists set up as "Newsletter" style,  
and
none of the users are given passwords.  Since I don't allow  
archiving
of
the newsletters, and they don't want/need to go to the web page to
change
their settings, they are subscribed and unsubscribed without notices
being
sent to the members.

Larry




Your Comments are appreciated...



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Re: [Mailman-Users] don't want to use webinterface, but use somePHP. how?

2003-03-31 Thread Dallas Bethune 
There are command-line and email methods of managing the lists.   
Hooking into one or both of those with your own scripts may do the  
trick.

	Dallas



On Monday, March 31, 2003, at 04:56 am, Ruud Steltenpool wrote:

developing an intranet

Every user can be part of several groups: teams, committees, people  
that for
some reason have the same rights, etc.

every group can also have a mailing-list.

When changing what groups someone is in, i automatically have the
mailinglists changed accordingly.
Any ideas on how to do that?

Thanks

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[Mailman-Users] large messages make qrunner hang?

2003-04-02 Thread Dallas Bethune 
Hi,

With mailman 2.0.13, do you ever have problems with large messages 
causing the qrunner process to stick or hang?  Is there some feature or 
option I can turn off to prevent this from happening?  It seems to 
happen with messages in the > 3 or 4 MB range.

	Dallas

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: MX Record?

2003-03-31 Thread Dallas Bethune 
On Monday, March 31, 2003, at 07:43 am, Vivek Khera wrote:

"b" == bob  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> writes:

In general, an MX record is not necessary if you have an A record.
That's probably not your problem here.
b> Since when?!  For transporting mail, you certainly DO need an MX 
record!

Since the beginning of time.  You do not *need* an MX record, but if
one exists you *must* honor it.


To clarify my original message about this, if you do already have an MX 
record for domain.com, then you would also need another one for 
lists.domain.com if you want list mail to go to a separate smtp server. 
 If you don't have any MX records set up at all, you would be ok with 
just A records.  It is still always advisable to use MX records of 
course, especially if you want to have redundant MX record entries (one 
of those good ideas!).

That goes along with what other people have said, of course!

	Dallas

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[Mailman-Users] update on mailpasswords problem

2003-06-06 Thread Dallas Bethune 
I reported a few days ago that I was seeing incorrect headers on the
mailpasswords monthly cron emails like so:

Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 05:26:52 -0700
Subject: lists.domain1.dreamhost.com mailing list memberships reminder
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-No-Archive: yes
X-Ack: no
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13


The X-BeenThere and Sender headers are incorrect along with the Return-Path
of the message.

It turns out that the list address used as the Sender and Return-Path is
always the very first list mailpasswords processes.  It gets that list with
this line:
for listname in Utils.list_names():

So, I walked through the steps and it looks to me like this is a bug.  It
looks as if only the hostname from each list is passed through to the
delivery mechanism and the Errors-To, Sender, and Return-Path headers are
always derived from the same list no matter which list the password reminder
message is actually for.

In mailpasswds, there's a comment that says:
"The list can be any random one - it is only used for the message
delivery mechanism."

That doesn't seem to be true as that one list is passed all the way through
to the CookHeaders portion of the mail pipeline which uses that single list
to come up with the admin email address with this line:

adminaddr = mlist.GetAdminEmail()

Am I on my own with this now that a more recent version is out?

Dallas




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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Where are the archives?

2003-06-03 Thread Dallas Bethune 
On 6/2/03 3:20pm, "Richard Barrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am kicking. I have been publishing and maintaining patches to integrate
> htdig search with MM since MM 2.0.6 and none of the MM support lists use
> the facility. When I asked thru this list how many people used the patches
> I got 3 replies; so obviously not many sites need searchable Mailman archives.
> 
> All users please note that MM 2.1.3 is the last version of MM for which I
> shall be publishing revisions of the #444884 patch. I will make one last
> effort to publish a generic version of the htdig integration patch which
> provides a framework for integrating other search engiones. Then I give up.
> Life is too short to continue pushing this particular rope uphill.
> 

Oh no!
I just started using the htdig integration on one small list last week.  I
am now considering adding it to the rest of our 4000+ hosted mailman lists
as we make the migration to MM 2.1 (still at 2.0.x now).  Can your mind be
changed?

I think maybe one of the reasons more people are not using the patches is
just the fact that a lot of the installs out there are done from rpm's or
debs instead of from source.  If you don't install from source, it's a lot
less obvious how to use the patches (if it's even possible).  Don't take
that as a sign that your patches are unappreciated!

Dallas


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman v:2.1 - problem with web interface

2003-06-05 Thread Dallas Bethune 
A 404 error is 'File not Found' and has nothing to do with mailman.  Check
your apache configuration and make sure all the mailman stuff is in there.
Maybe the apache server that comes up on startup is not the same as the one
that was running before the machine was restarted.

Dallas



On 6/4/03 2:19pm, "abid dar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Greetings,
>  Machines was restarted and I need to get mail man running again...I am
> running Mailman v:2.1 -> mailmanctl is running.. I can create lists... I can
> send messages to the list serv...but the when I click on the link to go the
> website site I get a error 404.  Everything else is correct but for some
> reason all I get is error 404 no matter what I do.  I am not sure what
> mmsitepass does but I created a new password hoping to fix it but no luck.
> There is something really simple I need to do but I just cant think of it.
> Thanks for your help.
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[Mailman-Users] header problems with the mailpasswords cron

2003-06-05 Thread Dallas Bethune 
One of our users has reported that the headers for the montly password
reminder email had incorrect headers like so:

Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 05:26:52 -0700
Subject: lists.domain1.dreamhost.com mailing list memberships reminder
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-No-Archive: yes
X-Ack: no
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13


I haven't posted the actual headers to protect the privacy of the users, and
have instead replaced the original domain names with domain1 and domain2.
Note that the 2 domains are in no way related other than the fact that we
host both of the lists on our shared mailman installation.

Why would the Sender and X-BeenThere headers show a completely different
domain?  The From is correct and shows the 'lists.dreamhost.com' domain,
which is set up as the DEFAULT_HOST_NAME.

I checked the faqs and didn't see anything about this.  What sets the Sender
and X-BeenThere headers?  The mailpasswords cron script does not mention
those headers.

Dallas




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[Mailman-Users] mailman config with lots of virtualhosts?

2003-07-02 Thread Dallas Bethune 
Has anyone set up mailman 2.1.2 with a large number of virtualhosts?  Like
thousands?  I'm planning to use the postfix integration to have it
automatically generate the aliases and it is working right now.  I have a
config line like this:

POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['listserver.dreamhost.com',
'lists.otherdomain.com']

Does anyone have experience with putting 3000 or so entries in that array?
Is that variable only used by genaliases?  Will it have a possible effect on
any other part of mailman operation?

Dallas


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