Re: [Mailman-Users] To-Do-list admin

2009-04-03 Thread Helmut Schneider

From: "Mark Sapiro" 

Helmut Schneider wrote:


From: "Mark Sapiro" 

Helmut Schneider wrote:


I did not touch the MTA setting, the only things I added are

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST
DEFAULT_URL_HOST
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN
PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect'
SMTPHOST
SMTPPORT

Communication itself seems fine, i recieved a subscription
reminder this morning from mailman-owner.



What is/are the address(es) listed for the owner of the mailman list?


postmas...@domain.tld


Are they deliverable? This is where the aliases mail is sent.
What happens if you send mail to mailman-ow...@...?


A mail to mailman-ow...@domain.tld is forwarded to
postmas...@domain.tld and  gets delivered.


And is that also true if it is sent via SMTPHOST:SMTPPORT (assuming
they are different from localhost)?


Yes.

Nevermind, I kicked the installation and installed from scratch, now it's 
fine.


Thanks, Helmut 


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Re: [Mailman-Users] To-Do-list admin

2009-04-01 Thread Helmut Schneider

From: "Mark Sapiro" 

Helmut Schneider wrote:


I did not touch the MTA setting, the only things I added are

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST
DEFAULT_URL_HOST
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN
PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect'
SMTPHOST
SMTPPORT

Communication itself seems fine, i recieved a subscription reminder this
morning from mailman-owner.



What is/are the address(es) listed for the owner of the mailman list?


postmas...@domain.tld


Are they deliverable? This is where the aliases mail is sent.
What happens if you send mail to mailman-ow...@...?


A mail to mailman-ow...@domain.tld is forwarded to postmas...@domain.tld and 
gets delivered. 


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Re: [Mailman-Users] To-Do-list admin

2009-04-01 Thread Helmut Schneider

Hi Mark,

From: "Mark Sapiro" 

Mark Sapiro wrote:


Helmut Schneider wrote:


I set up a new mailman instance (2.1.11). I remeber that when I
created new  lists a mail was sent to the admin describing what he
needs to add to  /etc/aliases to make the new list work. Currently I
do not recieve that  email at the new installation. Did I forget to
check a box?


It depends on how you create the list. If you create a list from the
web or via bin/newlist without the "-q" option, the admin should be
notified.

Is Mailman running?

See the FAQ at <http://wiki.list.org/x/A4E9>.


In the above reply, I overlooked the fact that you were talking about
the aliases email to the owner of the site list ('mailman-owner').
This is only sent if you haven't changed the default MTA = 'Manual'
setting. If you have set MTA in mm_cfg.py to other than 'Manual', the
aliases mail will not be sent.


I did not touch the MTA setting, the only things I added are

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST
DEFAULT_URL_HOST
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN
PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect'
SMTPHOST
SMTPPORT

Communication itself seems fine, i recieved a subscription reminder this 
morning from mailman-owner. 


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[Mailman-Users] To-Do-list admin

2009-03-31 Thread Helmut Schneider

Hi,

I set up a new mailman instance (2.1.11). I remeber that when I created new 
lists a mail was sent to the admin describing what he needs to add to 
/etc/aliases to make the new list work. Currently I do not recieve that 
email at the new installation. Did I forget to check a box?


Thanks, Helmut 


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Re: [Mailman-Users] privacy options, SPAM, regex

2008-11-28 Thread Helmut Schneider

From: "Mark Sapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Mark Sapiro wrote:

Helmut Schneider wrote:

Interesting, with "^subject:.*Declined.*"

Subject: Declined: [Somelist] Invitation to workshop on 13rd Dec. 2008

matches while

Subject: [Somelist] Declined:  Invitation to workshop on 13rd Dec. 2008

does not. Huh?!



It turns out that RFC 2047 encoded headers are not decoded before
matching against the regexps. Is that the issue here? What do the raw
headers look like?

I think that the headers should be decoded, but I wonder if people are
currently working around this with regexps that match encoded headers
and wouldn't match decoded headers.



I have developed a patch for SpamDetect.py which will decode RFC 2047
encoded headers. This is somewhat problematic because the decoded
headers will presumably contain non-ascii characters, and while the
character sets of the headers are known (and there can be different
headers or even different parts of a single header encoded in different
character sets), the character set of the regexps in header_filter_rules
is not known.

The patch creates a unicode object containing all the headers unfolded
and RFC 2047 decoded with one complete header per line and then encodes
it into the character set of the list's preferred_language, and this
result is what the regexps will search. As long as the regexps contain
only ascii and the raw headers contain no non-ascii characters, this
should give expected results. If the regexps contain non-ascii
characters or the headers contain non-ascii not RFC 2047 encoded,
results may be unexpected.

If in fact, the original issue is due to RFC 2047 encoded headers, try
the patch and let us know how it works.


As far as I can see this patch works great. As a positive side effect, is it 
possible that this patch also affects uncaught bounces? I recieve lots of 
uncaught bounces now where a SPAM-filter was required before the patch.


Thanks a lot, Helmut 


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Re: [Mailman-Users] privacy options, SPAM, regex

2008-11-27 Thread Helmut Schneider

Helmut Schneider wrote:


I have lots of problems with out-of-office replies. I tried to set up
a few  filter rules using 2.1.10. Unfortuantely they don't catch them.
Are the  expressions case sensitiv? Are the expressions basic or
extended? 
What I tried yet:


^subject:.*Accepted.*
^subject:.*Declined.*
^subject:.*is out of office.*



There are two different filters at # Privacy options... ->Spam filters,
and they work differently.

The more flexible of the two is header_filter_rules. For
header_filter_rules the regexps are matched against a multi-line
string containing all the unfolded headers in the message, both
message headers and sub-part headers. The regexp is a python regexp
<http://docs.python.org/library/re.html#regular-expression-syntax> and
the headers are searched
<http://docs.python.org/library/re.html#re.search> for a match of the
regexp in MULTILINE and IGNORECASE mode. This means the '^' matches
the beginning of the string or the null character immediately
following a newline and the match is case insensitive. Thus your above
expressions look good.


That's weird. Messages still pass with e.g.

Subject: [Somelist] Declined:  Invitation to workshop on 13rd Dec. 2008

in the Header. Do I need to escape the colon? Or something else?


Interesting, with "^subject:.*Declined.*"

Subject: Declined: [Somelist] Invitation to workshop on 13rd Dec. 2008

matches while

Subject: [Somelist] Declined:  Invitation to workshop on 13rd Dec. 2008

does not. Huh?!
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Re: [Mailman-Users] privacy options, SPAM, regex

2008-11-26 Thread Helmut Schneider
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Sapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Helmut Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 5:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] privacy options, SPAM, regex 

Helmut Schneider wrote:


I have lots of problems with out-of-office replies. I tried to set up
a few  filter rules using 2.1.10. Unfortuantely they don't catch them.
Are the  expressions case sensitiv? Are the expressions basic or
extended? 
What I tried yet:


^subject:.*Accepted.*
^subject:.*Declined.*
^subject:.*is out of office.*



There are two different filters at # Privacy options... ->Spam filters,
and they work differently.

The more flexible of the two is header_filter_rules. For
header_filter_rules the regexps are matched against a multi-line
string containing all the unfolded headers in the message, both
message headers and sub-part headers. The regexp is a python regexp
<http://docs.python.org/library/re.html#regular-expression-syntax> and
the headers are searched
<http://docs.python.org/library/re.html#re.search> for a match of the
regexp in MULTILINE and IGNORECASE mode. This means the '^' matches
the beginning of the string or the null character immediately
following a newline and the match is case insensitive. Thus your above
expressions look good.


That's weird. Messages still pass with e.g.

Subject: [Somelist] Declined:  Invitation to workshop on 13rd Dec. 2008

in the Header. Do I need to escape the colon? Or something else?

Thanks, Helmut
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[Mailman-Users] privacy options, SPAM, regex

2008-11-25 Thread Helmut Schneider

Hi,

I have lots of problems with out-of-office replies. I tried to set up a few 
filter rules using 2.1.10. Unfortuantely they don't catch them. Are the 
expressions case sensitiv? Are the expressions basic or extended?


What I tried yet:

^subject:.*Accepted.*
^subject:.*Declined.*
^subject:.*is out of office.*

Thanks, Helmut 


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Re: [Mailman-Users] ImportError: No module named _md5

2007-10-29 Thread Helmut Schneider
From: "Mark Sapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Helmut Schneider wrote:
>>I'm running mailman 2.1.9 chrooted. Recently FreeBSD switched from
> Python2.4 to Python2.5 as default. As an effect mailman won't start
> anymore using Python2.5:
>>Traceback (most recent call last):
>> File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 107, in 
>> from Mailman import Utils
>> File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 32, in 
>> import sha
>> File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/sha.py", line 6, in 
>> from hashlib import sha1 as sha
>> File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/hashlib.py", line 133, in 
>> md5 = __get_builtin_constructor('md5')
>> File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/hashlib.py", line 60, in
>>__get_builtin_constructor
>> import _md5
>>ImportError: No module named _md5
>>What did I miss? I suspect that some additional files need to be copied to
>>the jail but which ones? Using Python2.4 mailman still works fine.
> I had a similar if not the identical problem when I upgraded from
> python 2.4 to 2.5 on a test system under cygwin (no chroot).
> It turned out that Python 2.4 had been installed with prefix = /usr
> (library in /usr/lib/python2.4) and Python 2.5 was installed with
> prefix = /usr/local (library in /usr/local/lib/python2.5).
> I think I could have fixed it with a few symlinks, but I wound up
> removing and reinstalling python 2.5 with prefix = /usr.
> Perhaps this will help you figure out what you need to do.

It helped, yes, but I don't know how to solve it :)

When I start mailman non-chrooted python requests md5.py while when chrooted
it tries to access _md5.py. That only happens with md5, e.g. sha1 is not
effected.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ktrace -id /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mailman start
Site list is missing: mailman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# kdump -sf ./ktrace.out | grep md5
 22569 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/md5"
 22569 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/md5.so"
 22569 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/md5module.so"
 22569 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/md5.py"
 22569 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/md5.pyc"
 22569 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/md5"
 22569 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/md5.so"
 22569 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/md5module.so"
 22569 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/md5.py"
 22569 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/md5.pyc"
 22569 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/mailman/md5"
 22569 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/mailman/md5.so"
 22569 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/mailman/md5module.so"
 22569 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/mailman/md5.py"
 22569 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/mailman/md5.pyc"
 22569 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/mailman/bin/md5"
 22569 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/mailman/bin/md5.so"
 22569 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/mailman/bin/md5module.so"
 22569 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/mailman/bin/md5.py"
 22569 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/mailman/bin/md5.pyc"
 22569 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/md5"
 22569 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/md5.so"
 22569 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/md5module.so"
 22569 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/md5.py"
 22569 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/md5.pyc"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ktrace -id /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mailman-chroot start
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 107, in 
from Mailman import Utils
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 32, in 
import sha
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/sha.py", line 6, in 
from hashlib import sha1 as sha
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/hashlib.py", line 133, in 
md5 = __get_builtin_constructor('md5')
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/hashlib.py", line 60, in
__get_builtin_constructor
import _md5
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/_md5.py", line 6, in 
from hashlib import md5
ImportError: cannot import name md5
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# kdump -sf ./ktrace.out | grep md5
 22576 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/_md5"
 22576 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/_md5.so"
 22576 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/_md5module.so"
 22576 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/_md5.py"
 22576 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/_md5.pyc"
 22576 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/mailman/_md5"
 22576 python2.5 NAMI  "/usr/local/mailman/_md5.so"

[Mailman-Users] ImportError: No module named _md5

2007-10-29 Thread Helmut Schneider
Hi,

I'm running mailman 2.1.9 chrooted. Recently FreeBSD switched from Python2.4
to Python2.5 as default. As an effect mailman won't start anymore using
Python2.5:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 107, in 
from Mailman import Utils
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 32, in 
import sha
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/sha.py", line 6, in 
from hashlib import sha1 as sha
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/hashlib.py", line 133, in 
md5 = __get_builtin_constructor('md5')
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/hashlib.py", line 60, in
__get_builtin_constructor
import _md5
ImportError: No module named _md5

What did I miss? I suspect that some additional files need to be copied to
the jail but which ones? Using Python2.4 mailman still works fine.

Thanks, Helmut 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Prerequesits for mailman and a mta

2007-07-22 Thread Helmut Schneider
From: "Mark Sapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Helmut Schneider wrote:
>>Thanks, but I wonder why mailman does not send emails e.g. invitations.
> In  mm_cfg.py I set:
>>DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect'
>>SMTPHOST = 'localhost'
>>SMTPPORT = 25
>>There are no errors at logs/error, there is a hosts and a resolv.conf.
[...]
> Is Mailman even running (bin/mailmanctl start)?

D'oh!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Prerequesits for mailman and a mta

2007-07-21 Thread Helmut Schneider
From: "Mark Sapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Helmut Schneider wrote:
>>I'm not talking about inbout mails/requests, just outbound, mails
> generated  by mailman.
> Mailman uses the outgoing MTA defined in SMTPHOST (default =
> 'localhost'). By defining SMTPHOST and perhaps SMTPPORT in mm_cfg.py,
> you can use any outgoing MTA that you can connect to (a small patch to
> Mailman is required if the MTA requires authorization to forward mail).

Thanks, but I wonder why mailman does not send emails e.g. invitations. In 
mm_cfg.py I set:
DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect'
SMTPHOST = 'localhost'
SMTPPORT = 25

There are no errors at logs/error, there is a hosts and a resolv.conf. The 
logfile (of postfix) does not show a connection attempt. 

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[Mailman-Users] Prerequesits for mailman and a mta

2007-07-20 Thread Helmut Schneider
Hi,

what part(s) of e.g. postfix do I need to run mailman?

I have installed mailman in a chrooted environment. What does mailman need 
to run properly? Is mailman able to use a mta via IP and a 
sendmail/mailwrapper binary provided in the chroot is enough?

I'm not talking about inbout mails/requests, just outbound, mails generated 
by mailman.

Thanks, Helmut 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Not sending password reminders, subscription confirmations

2006-07-20 Thread Helmut Schneider
From: "Mark Sapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Helmut Schneider wrote:
>
>>From: "Mark Sapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>> You might try setting up another test_list with an underscore in the
>>> name and see if that fails too.
>>
>>Does no fail. Is there a way to backup everything and then recreate those
>>two lists?
>
>
> A combination of bin/config_list and bin/list_members can be used to
> dump the list config and the digest and non-digest membership which
> can be then applied to a new list with bin/config_list and
> bin/add_members, but this does not preserve all user options.
>
> Before doing this, I would suggest using bin/config_list to dump the
> configurations of a problem list and a working list and diff the
> results. If this doesn't reveal the problem, you can try the same
> thing with the results of bin/dumpdb on the lists/listname/config.pck
> files. For this latter diff, you'll have to ignore differences in
> various attributes which are lists of members with other member info,
> but if there is something peculiar in the config of these lists which
> causes the problem, this should reveal it.

I'll try.

Thanks, Helmut 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Not sending password reminders, subscription confirmations

2006-07-18 Thread Helmut Schneider
From: "Mark Sapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Helmut Schneider wrote:
>>
>> I have 2 other lists which were not used anymore and checked them, they
>> also  work fine and notifications are sent. The only difference is that
>> the  concerned lists (the 2 which aren't sending notifications) contain
>> an  underscore, but I am quite unsure if this is relevant.
>
> I don't know either, but it seems to be the only distinguishing
> characteristic of the lists that fail.
>
> If you look in Mailman's 'smtp' log, can you find any evidence that the
> notices were sent?

Nope.

> You might try setting up another test_list with an underscore in the
> name and see if that fails too.

Does no fail. Is there a way to backup everything and then recreate those 
two lists?

Thanks, Helmut 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Not sending password reminders, subscription confirmations

2006-07-14 Thread Helmut Schneider
Hi Mark,

From: "Mark Sapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Helmut Schneider wrote:
>>
>>Membership Management-Mass Subscription-"Send welcome messages to new
>>subscribees"and "Send notifications of new subscriptions to the list". On
>>the test list it works, on the two other lists it doesn't.
>
>
> Does the owner receive the owner notification?

No.

> Are there any list specific templates in lists/// for
> two lists that don't work?

No.

I have 2 other lists which were not used anymore and checked them, they also 
work fine and notifications are sent. The only difference is that the 
concerned lists (the 2 which aren't sending notifications) contain an 
underscore, but I am quite unsure if this is relevant. 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Not sending password reminders, subscription confirmations

2006-07-13 Thread Helmut Schneider
From: "Mark Sapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Helmut Schneider wrote:
>>
>>I'm using mailman 2.1.8 on OpenBSD. I have 5 lists, 2 are really used, 1
>> is  for testing purposes.
>>A admin of that 2 lists claims that subscription confirmations are not
>> sent  to the users allthough the checkbox is active (I checked that).
>> For my test  list the confirmations work for each new user.
>
> Do you mean the message for the user to confirm before being subscribed
> or the welcome message after subscription is completed?

Membership Management-Mass Subscription-"Send welcome messages to new 
subscribees"and "Send notifications of new subscriptions to the list". On 
the test list it works, on the two other lists it doesn't.

> The former is Privacy Options...->Subscription rules->subscribe_policy;
> the latter is GeneralOptions->welcome_message.

Gereral option-notifications. Every checkbox ist selected (YES to all).

>>Moreover on none of the (5) lists the monthly password reminders are
>> working  anymore.
>
> Are the cron jobs running?. Is General Options->send_reminders on for
> all the lists.

cron jobs?! Oh dear, mentioning that I remember that there was a note about 
creting cron jobs at the end of installation. LART on me :( 

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[Mailman-Users] Not sending password reminders, subscription confirmations

2006-07-13 Thread Helmut Schneider
Hi,

I'm using mailman 2.1.8 on OpenBSD. I have 5 lists, 2 are really used, 1 is 
for testing purposes.
A admin of that 2 lists claims that subscription confirmations are not sent 
to the users allthough the checkbox is active (I checked that). For my test 
list the confirmations work for each new user.

Moreover on none of the (5) lists the monthly password reminders are working 
anymore.

I started using mailman with 2.1.2(?) and always upgraded the lists with 
every new release.

Where should I start to look at? I grepped my maillog files (which are on 
the same machine, postfix 2.1.8) but did not find anything.

Thanks, Helmut 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Change hostname

2004-03-18 Thread Helmut Schneider
Jon Carnes wrote:

> On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 09:49, Helmut Schneider wrote:
>> I apologize if the question was asked before.
>> 
>> I have a server running mailman 2.1.2, say mail.domain.com. I got 3
>> lists. Now I add an alias for the server in DNS (e.g. lists). 
>> How is it possible to transfer the 3 lists to the new alias? If I
>> open the page http://lists.domain.com/mailman/listinfo I can see the
>> welcome message. If I create a new list here it is listed here to.
>> But the "old" lists do only appear under the old hostname
>> (http://mail.domain.com/mailman/listinfo). Same for the footer.
>> 
>> Thanks, Helmut
> 
> http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.029.htp

Argh, I always ran /usr/local/lib/mailman/bin/withlist -l -r 
/usr/local/lib/mailman/bin/fix_url.py testlist. Works now...

Thanks, Helmut

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Change hostname

2004-03-18 Thread Helmut Schneider
Jon Carnes wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 09:49, Helmut Schneider wrote:
>> 
>> I apologize if the question was asked before.
>> 
>> I have a server running mailman 2.1.2, say mail.domain.com. I got 3
>> lists. Now I add an alias for the server in DNS (e.g. lists). 
>> How is it possible to transfer the 3 lists to the new alias? If I
>> open the page http://lists.domain.com/mailman/listinfo I can see the
>> welcome message. If I create a new list here it is listed here to.
>> But the "old" lists do only appear under the old hostname
>> (http://mail.domain.com/mailman/listinfo). Same for the footer.
> 
> http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.029.htp

Oh, sorry, of course I read the FAQ before posting! Perhaps something went wrong. Will 
try again.

Regards, Helmut

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[Mailman-Users] Change hostname

2004-03-17 Thread Helmut Schneider
Hi,

I apologize if the question was asked before.

I have a server running mailman 2.1.2, say mail.domain.com. I got 3 lists. Now I add 
an alias for the server in DNS (e.g. lists).
How is it possible to transfer the 3 lists to the new alias? If I open the page 
http://lists.domain.com/mailman/listinfo I can see the welcome message. If I create a 
new list here it is listed here to. But the "old" lists do only appear under the old 
hostname (http://mail.domain.com/mailman/listinfo). Same for the footer.

Thanks, Helmut

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