Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Migration
Thanks all for the great advice! On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 3:22 PM Keith Seyffarth wrote: > > > We have a client who uses mailman on a plesk server. They are in the > > process of moving to a cpanel server but we have no experience with > mailman > > and were wondering if anyone experienced devs could give us a quote to > > perform the migration for us? Please feel free to reach out with any > > questions. > > First check to see what options you have from within cPanel, apparently > some cPanel implementations come with a migration or transfer tool which > is already set up to transfer sites from PLESK to cPanel. I haven't gone > this direction, but I have transferred from cPanel to PLESK or from older > versions of PLESK to newer versions of PLESK with the PLESK Migrate > tool... > > If you don't have that option, you may want to check out > > https://forums.cpanel.net/threads/migrating-account-from-plesk-to-cpanel.303772/ > which appears to have information on a free transfer service... > > Keith > > -- > > from my mac to yours... > > Keith Seyffarth > mailto:w...@weif.net > http://www.weif.net/ - Home of the First Tank Guide! > http://www.rpgcalendar.net/ - the Montana Role-Playing Calendar > > http://www.miscon.org/ - Montana's Longest Running Science Fiction > Convention > -- James Kelleway Confit Web Design & Development http://confitdesign.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailman Migration
Hi All, We have a client who uses mailman on a plesk server. They are in the process of moving to a cpanel server but we have no experience with mailman and were wondering if anyone experienced devs could give us a quote to perform the migration for us? Please feel free to reach out with any questions. Thanks, James -- James Kelleway Confit Web Design & Development http://confitdesign.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Postfix delivers to mailman, but not aliases
Hi list, I recently migrated our mailman server from an old SLES 11 box to Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS, and installed Mailman from the Ubuntu repositories along with Postfix and other prerequisites. Mailman itself is working fine, but I have a handful of regular email aliases in /etc/aliases which do not receive mail, and when examining the logs, get bounced with a “User unknown” error. What did I screw up? (I’ve checked my aliases and they’re good, and I’ve run the newaliases command numerous times). Cheers, James -- James Dore IT Officer New College, Oxford, OX1 3BN 01865 279252 (Mon-Fri 0830-1600) - 01865 612345 All other www.new.ox.ac.uk<http://www.new.ox.ac.uk> [cid:481BAAE5-F170-469A-B15F-59C56158337F@new.ox.ac.uk] New College is registered with the Charity Commissioners. New College Oxford® is a registered trade mark - No. 2588652 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] X-Spam-Score: 22.4 and still sent out to the list...
How can I configure mailman on Debian to reject messages with X-Spam-Score over 8? We are getting bombarded with spam, messages are tagged by Spamassasin, but for some reason Exim4 still sends these to Mailman. Debian 8 (Jessie) Exim version 4.84 Mailman 1:2.1.18-2 SpamAssassin version 3.4.0, running on Perl version 5.20.2 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailman Bug
Ok we are running version 2.1.5 on an old White Box server and are encountering this bug which is preventing us from accessing the membership management pages for some (but not all) of our mailing lists. if bucket not in digits + '_' + lowercase: TypeError: 'in string' requires character as left operand I added the '_' to the first line thinking maybe someone used an underscore as the first character in the address and mailman didn't like that but no joy. I asked the Google overlords for an answer with no help (maybe my google-fu needs honing) so I apologize if this is an issue that's been fixed 100 times over. Any help on what to twiddle would be helpful. It can't be as simple as something like adding '' to the if statement right? My Python skills are quite rudimentary (read: neanderthal). -- James Sceets BPL Helpdesk -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Images on iPhone's not loading
Peter, as mentioned earlier the HTML newsletter with images displays on everything but iPhone. On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Peter Shute psh...@nuw.org.au wrote: Are these images attachments of the emails, or are they just linked into the html from elsewhere? If the latter, have you looked at the html to see if there are errors in it? Peter Shute Sent from my iPad On 31 Oct 2014, at 8:35 am, James Nightly exim4deb...@gmail.com wrote: I tried disabling dmarc completely and apparently there is still an issue with HTML emails loading images on Apple iPhone Mail app. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/pshute%40nuw.org.au -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] [Suspected Spam] Images on iPhone's not loading
I think the issue is dmarc_moderation_action which we use to wrap the message or munge the headers. This works great for our Yahoo and AOL parents -- school newsletter is not spam filtered anymore. These messages are all HTML MIME-structured with multipart/mixed. Its a global issue, not a single iPhone/email/user -- its everyone with an iPhone, they can't read our newsletter. Images do not load. I tried using Gmail app and it seems to work! iPhone Mail app does not load images in the same message/account/phone/network. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Images on iPhone's not loading
I tried disabling dmarc completely and apparently there is still an issue with HTML emails loading images on Apple iPhone Mail app. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Images on iPhone's not loading
Our school newsletter often has a few images accompanying news articles. These images load fine on android phones and in regular computer browsers. Images do now show on the same message and email account when viewed on iPhone's. On iPhone all I see is an outline of an image with file name and none of the images load/show. Articles/text loads fine. filter_content is set to No iPhone settings Email Load email images is enabled We are on v. Mailman 1:2.1.18-1, Debian 3.16.3-2 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] MM stats question and a moderation issue
Since you moved servers, I suspect there are two lists and some things are going to/coming from the old list(s) and some are going to/coming from the new list(s). And how did you add the members to the new list(s)? config_list doesn't do anything with members or their passwords or options whereas moving the lists/LISTNAME/config.pck files moves all that. I created new lists on the new server, copy/pasted member emails and list settings (using config_list). There is only one set of lists, the other server is offline. I get (many) daily moderation requests for Reason: Post by non-member to a members-only list. On the old server members of the list were able to email the list, non-member messages were sent to moderation. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Regex for spam
There used to be a nice set of regex for some common spam on the old
server that we had, but that crashed and I wasn't able to recover the
settings/regex. Would somebody be willing to share their regex?
If not, I wonder if this work if I add it to header_filter_rules:
ambien (?i)[a@/]+\\?.?m+.?[b8]+.?[i:1!\|]+.?[e3€]+.?n+\b
anal (?i)\banal\b
bulgary (?i)\b[b8].?[uv].?[li17\|].?[gq].?[a@/][\\]?r.?[yi1!:\|]?
cheapest pills (?i)cheapest\spills
cialis (?i)\bc.?[i1!:\|].?[a@/][\\]?.?[li17\|].?[i1!:\|].?[s235$]
credit (?i)\bc.?r.?[e3€].?d.?[i1!:\|].?[t\+]
discount (?i)\bd.?[i1!:\|].?[s235$].?c.?[oQ0].?[uv].?n.?[t\+]?
ejaculation (?i)ejaculation
enlargement (?i)enlargement
levitra \b[LlIi17\|].?[Ee3].?[Vv\\][/]?.?[Ii1!:\|].?[Tt\+].?[Rr].?[Aa@/]?[\\]?
(v nicht optional!)
money (?i)\bm.?[oQ0].?n.?[e3€].?y
mortgage \b[Mm].?[OoQ0].?[Rr].?[Tt\+].?[Ggq].?[Aa@/][\\]?.?[Ggq].?[Ee3€]?
natural weight loss (?i)(natural\s)?weight(\s)?loss
omega \b[OoQ0].?[Mm].?[Ee3€].?[Ggq].?[Aa@/][\\]?
online pharmacy (?i)online\spharmacy
penis (?i)\bp+.?[e3€]+.?n+.?[i1!:\|]+.?[s5$]+\b
pharmaceuticals (?i)pharmaceuticals
porno (?i)\bp.?[oQ0].?r.?n.?[oQ0]?
premature (?i)premature
prescription (?i)prescription
refinance
\b[Rr].?[Ee3€].?[Ff].?[Ii1!:\|].?[Nn].?[Aa@/][\\]?.?[Nn].?[CcZz].?[Ee3€]?
rolex \b[Rr].?[OoQ0].?[LlIi17\|].?[Ee3€].?[Xx]
sex \b[Ss25$].?[Ee3€].?[Xx].?[Yy]?\b
soma [Ss25$].?[OoQ0].?[Mm].?[Aa]?\b oder \b[Ss25$].?[OoQ0].?[Mm].?[Aa/][\\]?\b
src=3Dcid: src=3Dcid:
src=cid: src=cid:
valium (?i)[v\\]+/?.?[a@/]+\\?.?[li17\|]+.?[il1!:\|]+.?[uv]+.?m+\b
xanax \b[Xx].?[Aa@/][\\]?.?[Nn].?[Aa@/][\\]?.?[Xx]?
X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Level:\s\*{8,30}
SPAM (?i)\*{1,6}spam\*{1,6}
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Re: [Mailman-Users] MM stats question and a moderation issue
I'm not sure why you did config_list. If you were upgrading an existing install, this was unnecessary. I had to move to a different server. Sorry, I should have explained that a little better. What is the reason (from the admindb interface or the held message notice or Mailman's vette log) why the post is held? This is the weird part. Sender is on the members list. However, Reason: Post by non-member to a members-only list. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] domain name alias, two domains on one MM?
It doesn't work for some reason. I can see emails routed to the new domain, but there is an unroutable address error in the logs. Our old lists.old_name.org is pointing to lists.new_name.org. MM lists names are same, the only change is in the domain (lists.old_name.org vs lists.new_name.org -- or mailman@lists.old_name.org vs mailman@lists.old_name.org). However, when I SMTP test for lists.old_domain.org I get a response from lists.new_domain.org, like this: SMTP test for lists.OLD_DOMAIN.org Connecting to 69.9.9.9 *(obfuscated) 220 lists.NEW_DOMAIN.org ESMTP Exim 4.84 Wed, 17 Sep 2014 08:02:03 -0700 [5678 ms] EHLO MXTB-PWS3.mxtoolbox.com 250-lists.new_name.org Hello mxtb-pws3.mxtoolbox.com [64.20.227.133] 250-SIZE 52428800 250-8BITMIME 250-PIPELINING 250 HELP [655 ms] MAIL FROM: supert...@mxtoolbox.com 250 OK [655 ms] RCPT TO: t...@example.com 550 relay not permitted [655 ms] MXTB-PWS3v2 8440ms ping lists.old_domain.org reply from 69.9.9.9 OK ping lists.new_domain.org reply rom 69.9.9.9 OK -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] MM stats question and a moderation issue
Can MM generate some type of statistics for all the lists, e.g. number of messages per week, month, most frequent posters, which list has most traffic etc.? All of our lists are setup where members can post, other (non-members) are moderated. After updating to 2.1.18-1 and config_list -i all of the settings the member posts to the list that they are subscribed to require moderator approval too. Maybe a setting didn't get imported, I'm not sure. Any ideas where/what to check? I would like members to be able to post without approval, and non-members to go to queue for moderation. Thank you. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Exim4... sorry to ask...
I have routes and transport setup in Exim4. Its driving me crazy. I keep getting the same rejected RCPT Unrouteable address and I don't know why. exim4 -bt mail...@lists.myschool.org R: system_aliases for mail...@lists.myschool.org mail...@lists.myschool.org is undeliverable: Unrouteable address Any tips or suggestions where to look, I've been at it for days now... exim -C /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template -bV Exim version 4.84 #3 built 29-Aug-2014 18:08:29 Copyright (c) University of Cambridge, 1995 - 2014 (c) The Exim Maintainers and contributors in ACKNOWLEDGMENTS file, 2007 - 2014 Berkeley DB: Berkeley DB 5.3.28: (September 9, 2013) Support for: crypteq iconv() IPv6 GnuTLS move_frozen_messages DKIM PRDR OCSP Lookups (built-in): lsearch wildlsearch nwildlsearch iplsearch cdb dbm dbmjz dbmnz dnsdb dsearch nis nis0 passwd Authenticators: cram_md5 plaintext Routers: accept dnslookup ipliteral manualroute queryprogram redirect Transports: appendfile/maildir/mailstore autoreply lmtp pipe smtp Fixed never_users: 0 Size of off_t: 8 Configuration file is /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template 220 lists.myschool.org ESMTP Exim 4.84 Thu, 11 Sep 2014 12:27:26 -0700 [5756 ms] EHLO MXTB-PWS3.mxtoolbox.com 250-lists.myschool.org Hello mxtb-pws3.mxtoolbox.com [64.20.227.133] 250-SIZE 52428800 250-8BITMIME 250-PIPELINING 250 HELP [671 ms] MAIL FROM: supert...@mxtoolbox.com 250 OK [671 ms] RCPT TO: t...@example.com 550 relay not permitted [686 ms] MXTB-PWS3v2 8674ms -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Exim4... sorry to ask...
for user mailman: using cached result getpwnam() returned NULL (user not found) maildrop router skipped: mailman is not a local user lowuid_aliases router local_part=mailman domain=lists.myschool.org checking domains cached yes match for +local_domains cached lookup data = NULL lists.myschool.org in +local_domains? yes (matched +local_domains - cached) checking for local user seeking password data for user mailman: using cached result getpwnam() returned NULL (user not found) lowuid_aliases router skipped: mailman is not a local user local_user router local_part=mailman domain=lists.myschool.org checking domains cached yes match for +local_domains cached lookup data = NULL lists.myschool.org in +local_domains? yes (matched +local_domains - cached) checking local_parts mailman in ! root? yes (end of list) checking for local user seeking password data for user mailman: using cached result getpwnam() returned NULL (user not found) local_user router skipped: mailman is not a local user mail4root router local_part=mailman domain=lists.myschool.org checking domains cached yes match for +local_domains cached lookup data = NULL lists.myschool.org in +local_domains? yes (matched +local_domains - cached) checking local_parts mailman in root? no (end of list) mail4root router skipped: local_parts mismatch no more routers mail...@lists.myschool.org is undeliverable: Unrouteable address search_tidyup called Exim pid=8836 terminating with rc=2 On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:50 PM, James Nightly exim4deb...@gmail.com wrote: I have routes and transport setup in Exim4. Its driving me crazy. I keep getting the same rejected RCPT Unrouteable address and I don't know why. exim4 -bt mail...@lists.myschool.org R: system_aliases for mail...@lists.myschool.org mail...@lists.myschool.org is undeliverable: Unrouteable address Any tips or suggestions where to look, I've been at it for days now... exim -C /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template -bV Exim version 4.84 #3 built 29-Aug-2014 18:08:29 Copyright (c) University of Cambridge, 1995 - 2014 (c) The Exim Maintainers and contributors in ACKNOWLEDGMENTS file, 2007 - 2014 Berkeley DB: Berkeley DB 5.3.28: (September 9, 2013) Support for: crypteq iconv() IPv6 GnuTLS move_frozen_messages DKIM PRDR OCSP Lookups (built-in): lsearch wildlsearch nwildlsearch iplsearch cdb dbm dbmjz dbmnz dnsdb dsearch nis nis0 passwd Authenticators: cram_md5 plaintext Routers: accept dnslookup ipliteral manualroute queryprogram redirect Transports: appendfile/maildir/mailstore autoreply lmtp pipe smtp Fixed never_users: 0 Size of off_t: 8 Configuration file is /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template 220 lists.myschool.org ESMTP Exim 4.84 Thu, 11 Sep 2014 12:27:26 -0700 [5756 ms] EHLO MXTB-PWS3.mxtoolbox.com 250-lists.myschool.org Hello mxtb-pws3.mxtoolbox.com [64.20.227.133] 250-SIZE 52428800 250-8BITMIME 250-PIPELINING 250 HELP [671 ms] MAIL FROM: supert...@mxtoolbox.com 250 OK [671 ms] RCPT TO: t...@example.com 550 relay not permitted [686 ms] MXTB-PWS3v2 8674ms -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Moving to a new server -- pipe new_list options?
Is it possible to pipe new_list options for owner and password? Something like this: new_list name_of_list | owner_em...@school.org | password I have list_lists and am trying to recreate all of these lists on the new server. Thanks! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving to a new server -- pipe new_list options?
I was so close with that one. Removing pipes from the command worked perfectly. To create new list and add owner email and password this one liner works perfectly: newlist list-name ow...@email.com password On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: On 09/11/2014 03:14 PM, James Nightly wrote: Is it possible to pipe new_list options for owner and password? Something like this: new_list name_of_list | owner_em...@school.org | password What you have written makes no sense, and I am unsure what you are actually trying to accomplish with this so I can't comment further on it. I have list_lists and am trying to recreate all of these lists on the new server. Why don't you just move the lists per http://wiki.list.org/x/2oA9 and posts linked therefrom. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/exim4debian%40gmail.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] domain name alias, two domains on one MM?
We have two domains. Is it possible to setup MM to deliver all messages from list.old_domain.org and list.new_domain.org to one list (on new_domain.org)? For example, a message sent to list_name@list.old_domain.org would be delivered to list_name@list.new_domain.org? Thanks and sorry for all the questions! :( -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Administrative requests for mailing list failing
I'm unable to approve, discard, or do anything on the administrative requests for mailing list. Selecting any of the options for an email that's held for approval (and clicking on Submit All Data) simply refreshes the page and the emails and all admin requests are still on the page. I'm not sure how to troubleshoot this, if its apache/exim4, what log to check... -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] unsubscribe footer?
Somehow I managed to remove unsubscribe footer in my mailing list. Is it possible to append to all lists instructions on how to unsubscribe? I'm hoping subscribers can send 'remove' email to an address and get removed from the list automatically. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Fixing the implicit destination problems
Is it possible to have Mailman lists email an individual directly instead of using an implicit destination email (for the list)? We are getting a lot of messages blocked or ending up in spam folders. For example, when I send an email to my_l...@list.school.org all of the 400 parents should get an email directly TO: parent_em...@gmail.com, and not TO: my_l...@list.school.org In other words I would like recipient email to be substituted by Mailman and their email address substituted as receivers, instead of using the implicit TO: mailing list email address. Thanks! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] New install of mailman -- web links point to non-working https address
Hi, I just installed mailman on a Centos 6.5 server with Apache, and find that all the links on the web interface are broken because they point to an https:// address with /cgi-bin/ in the address rather than an http:// address that works. The Defaults.py config includes the following line: DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' rather than the folloowing: DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/cgi-bin/' which was recommended on one web tutorial I have been using for setup. While I wouldn't mind having it work at the SSL/https address, I don't have a working SSL certificate, won't be purchasing one, and would rather not use a self-signed one that pops up security prompts every time someone visits. So, I'm inclined to stick with the less secure http:// I've tried configuring it both ways, changing the DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN and restarting mailman, but either way the site works at http://www.mysite.com/mailman/listinfo/, but all the web links are to https://www.mysite.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/. I've also checked the config files mm_cfg.py and mailman.conf and don't see anything that is pointing to an https:// address. Any suggestions? I am a novice and appreciate your patience. James -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Reactivate delivery confirmation tokens
MS == Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net writes: MS What do you do and what happens? Mail comes in announcing that: Your membership in the mailing list $LISTNAME has been disabled due to excessive bounces Neither replying nor surfing to the mailman/confirm/$LISTNAME/$TOKEN uri works. Using the uri and passwd listed after the: You can also visit your membership page at line always works. MS Is your problem always with the same site? No. In my primary archive, I have 57 such mails from 33 sites over the last 34 months. There are lots more going back another decade or so in my burried archives. The most recent runs 2.1.15. MS Are you confirming within the sites PENDING_REQUEST_LIFE (default 3 days)? Generally w/in 12 hours of when the mail was sent. Always w/in 24 hours. I route mailman mail to a high-priority group to ensure that I see it without delay. It is only these non-interactive confirm mails which fail; sub, unsub, and change address confirms always work. I suspect that most of the sites install mailman via their distributions' packaging. Might the dists' packaging break something? Of the last six (all in 2013), all but sf.net run debian, according to the apache version strings. -JimC -- James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Reactivate delivery confirmation tokens
MS == Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net writes: MS I understood that, but what else happens? What response do you get from MS the web server when you go to the mailman/confirm/$LISTNAME/$TOKEN uri? Sorry; I thought that was clear. Replies to the confirm mail generate an invalid token reply; surfing to the token uri returns an invalid token page. MS Do other confirmations, e.g. subscription requests, work? Yes. As I wrote, all confirmation tokens generated by active requests always work, whether change-of-email-address, subscribe or unsubscribe. A few sites over the years only supported email or only supported http, but the tokens never generated invalid errors unless they came as part of a please-reply-to-reactivate mail. In other words, tokens generated by the cgi or by sending a subscribe or unsubscribe mail work, but tokens generated by class Bouncer are always invalid. Is the cookie expiring before the mail is sent? I see the comment in Bouncer.py about trying to avoid that, but that would explain things. -JimC -- James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Reactivate delivery confirmation tokens
What is the deal with the confirmation tokens sent in the 'delivery blocked, reply to re-enable' mails? I've never received such a confirmation token which worked. And I've received more than a few over the last decade or more. They are *always* invalid. Whereas logging in and manually re-enabling always works. -JimC -- James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1.14 stops sending mail
Nope, it just took me that long to make sure all of the processes were down, and restart them. -Original Message- From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+james.millsap=chicagobooth@python.org] On Behalf Of Jim Popovitch Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 1:23 PM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1.14 stops sending mail On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Millsap, James james.mill...@chicagobooth.edu wrote: Unfortunately It is difficult as this machine is critical to our operations, I don't have a whole lot of time to troubleshoot, before I must have it up and running. It usually takes around two days for this issue to come up. -TERM will kill it, no need to use --KILL. This is built from source so no redhat packages. This is what I have in the qrunner log. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17606) ArchRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17606) ArchRunner qrunner exiting. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17611) OutgoingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17612) VirginRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17612) VirginRunner qrunner exiting. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17607) BounceRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17608) CommandRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17608) CommandRunner qrunner exiting. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17609) IncomingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17609) IncomingRunner qrunner exiting. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17610) NewsRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17610) NewsRunner qrunner exiting. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17613) RetryRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17613) RetryRunner qrunner exiting. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17604) Master watcher caught SIGTERM. Exiting. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17604) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17606, sig: None, sts: 15, class: ArchRunner, slice: 1/1) Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17604) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17608, sig: None, sts: 15, class: CommandRunner, slice: 1/1) Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17604) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17609, sig: None, sts: 15, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/1) Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17604) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17610, sig: None, sts: 15, class: NewsRunner, slice: 1/1) Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17604) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17612, sig: None, sts: 15, class: VirginRunner, slice: 1/1) Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17604) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17613, sig: None, sts: 15, class: RetryRunner, slice: 1/1) Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17607) BounceRunner qrunner exiting. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17604) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17607, sig: None, sts: 15, class: BounceRunner, slice: 1/1) Apr 10 10:01:37 2013 (17611) OutgoingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Apr 10 10:01:37 2013 (17604) Master watcher caught SIGTERM. Exiting. Apr 10 10:01:37 2013 (17611) OutgoingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Apr 10 10:01:37 2013 (17611) OutgoingRunner qrunner exiting. Apr 10 10:01:38 2013 (17604) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17611, sig: None, sts: 15, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1) approx 20 seconds time Apr 10 10:01:58 2013 (15858) CommandRunner qrunner started. Apr 10 10:01:59 2013 (15859) IncomingRunner qrunner started. Apr 10 10:01:59 2013 (15856) ArchRunner qrunner started. Apr 10 10:01:59 2013 (15857) BounceRunner qrunner started. Apr 10 10:01:59 2013 (15862) VirginRunner qrunner started. Apr 10 10:01:59 2013 (15860) NewsRunner qrunner started. Apr 10 10:01:59 2013 (15863) RetryRunner qrunner started. Apr 10 10:01:59 2013 (15861) OutgoingRunner qrunner started. To me, the above looks like a system reboot. Is something rebooting the box at 10am? -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/james.millsap%40chicagobooth.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1.14 stops sending mail
Unfortunately It is difficult as this machine is critical to our operations, I don't have a whole lot of time to troubleshoot, before I must have it up and running. It usually takes around two days for this issue to come up. -TERM will kill it, no need to use --KILL. This is built from source so no redhat packages. This is what I have in the qrunner log. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17606) ArchRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17606) ArchRunner qrunner exiting. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17611) OutgoingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17612) VirginRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17612) VirginRunner qrunner exiting. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17607) BounceRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17608) CommandRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17608) CommandRunner qrunner exiting. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17609) IncomingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17609) IncomingRunner qrunner exiting. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17610) NewsRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17610) NewsRunner qrunner exiting. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17613) RetryRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17613) RetryRunner qrunner exiting. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17604) Master watcher caught SIGTERM. Exiting. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17604) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17606, sig: None, sts: 15, class: ArchRunner, slice: 1/1) Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17604) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17608, sig: None, sts: 15, class: CommandRunner, slice: 1/1) Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17604) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17609, sig: None, sts: 15, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/1) Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17604) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17610, sig: None, sts: 15, class: NewsRunner, slice: 1/1) Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17604) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17612, sig: None, sts: 15, class: VirginRunner, slice: 1/1) Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17604) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17613, sig: None, sts: 15, class: RetryRunner, slice: 1/1) Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17607) BounceRunner qrunner exiting. Apr 10 10:01:08 2013 (17604) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17607, sig: None, sts: 15, class: BounceRunner, slice: 1/1) Apr 10 10:01:37 2013 (17611) OutgoingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Apr 10 10:01:37 2013 (17604) Master watcher caught SIGTERM. Exiting. Apr 10 10:01:37 2013 (17611) OutgoingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Apr 10 10:01:37 2013 (17611) OutgoingRunner qrunner exiting. Apr 10 10:01:38 2013 (17604) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17611, sig: None, sts: 15, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1) Apr 10 10:01:58 2013 (15858) CommandRunner qrunner started. Apr 10 10:01:59 2013 (15859) IncomingRunner qrunner started. Apr 10 10:01:59 2013 (15856) ArchRunner qrunner started. Apr 10 10:01:59 2013 (15857) BounceRunner qrunner started. Apr 10 10:01:59 2013 (15862) VirginRunner qrunner started. Apr 10 10:01:59 2013 (15860) NewsRunner qrunner started. Apr 10 10:01:59 2013 (15863) RetryRunner qrunner started. Apr 10 10:01:59 2013 (15861) OutgoingRunner qrunner started. -Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:59 PM To: Millsap, James Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1.14 stops sending mail On 4/10/2013 8:43 AM, Millsap, James wrote: mailman 15854 1 0 10:01 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start mailman 15861 15854 0 10:01 ?00:00:06 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s I have to kill the outgoingrunner specifically. The only thing I see in the logs is a lack of logging. It has been running with stunning reliability on this machine for the last few years, so I am not sure what is going on. Perhaps one of redhat's patches killed it. Can you kill -TERM it or do you need to kill -KILL it? Are you sure there's nothing relevant in Mailman's qrunner log (/var/log/mailman/qrunner if a rhel packaged Mailman)? Is there a current .bak file in the out queue (/var/spool/mailman/out/) What does 'lsof' show for the process? You might be able to get something useful from 'gdb' or maybe see something like http://stackoverflow.com/questions/132058/showing-the-stack-trace-from-a-running-python-application. If I had to guess, I'd guess it gets hung waiting for an SMTP response from the MTA. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3
[Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1.14 stops sending mail
Hello, I have mailman 2.1.14 running on RHEL 5.9 with sendmail 8.13.8-8.1.el5_7, and Python 2.4.3. The problem presents itself by mailman no longer sending out mail sent to the lists. The mail is queuing up, and when mailman is stopped and started it all delivers. That leads to the other strange part. All of the mailman daemons stop when I run the stop script, except mailman 15854 1 0 10:01 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start mailman 15861 15854 0 10:01 ?00:00:06 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s I have to kill the outgoingrunner specifically. The only thing I see in the logs is a lack of logging. It has been running with stunning reliability on this machine for the last few years, so I am not sure what is going on. Perhaps one of redhat's patches killed it. James Millsap The University of Chicago Booth School of Business 5807 South Woodlawn Avenue Chicago, IL 60637 (773) 702-7955 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailman hosting needed
Hi Everyone, I've been running my own server hosting (amongst other things) mailman for the last 10+ years using a combination of either my own server, or more recently VPS. However, I've got to the point in my life where it is too much work to maintain the servers myself, so am now offloading all the services on to hosted services. I have successfully moved everything off with the exception of some mailman services that I run for my church. I have three lists one of which is used significantly more than the other two, but collectively they have no more than 700 messages per year sent on them / 250 subscribers. Can anyone recommend a host that might be suitable for my needs? Thanks! James. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Cannot to make work mailman correctly
On 11.08.2011 17:01, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 8/9/2011 11:46 PM, James Brown wrote: I have a vds under Free-BSD-8.1-STABLE which I use for maintaining of public sites and etc. Under that vds I have a mailing system which consits from an exim-4.76 which receives and sends emails to/from local mail users and dovecot-1.2.17 which lets get receiving post to email-clients. I want to set up the Mailman for maintaining post lists. Firstly, created subdomain 'list.somename.name' in my bind-settings. It works correctly. Then, after installing the Mailman from ports, I set up my Apache to work with it. My Apache wokrs correctly too. Then I checked and changed my exim configuration file and etc and tested list verification command with the next result: exim -bt n...@list.somename.name Address rewritten as: n...@list.somename.name n...@list.somename.name -- n...@list.somename.name -- n...@list.somename.name -- n...@list.somename.name router = localuser, transport = local_delivery For some reason, your 'mailman' router is not meeting all it's conditions and Exim is proceeding to 'localuser'. I found what was wrong in my exim configuration and now I have the next: exim -bt n...@list.somename.name Address rewritten as: n...@list.somename.name n...@list.somename.name -- n...@list.somename.name -- n...@list.somename.name router = mailman, transport = mailman Is your definition MAILMAN_HOME=/usr/local/mailman correct? I.e. are your lists in the directory /usr/local/mailman/lists? Yes, it is. That is a configuration creating when installing the Mailman on the FreeBSD system from ports. Maybe it needs to me to install the Mailman from sources into home directory? Further I created a site-wide mailing list and a mailing list as in described in /usr/local/share/doc/mailman/mailman-install.txt but it is not works well. It is possible to subscribe to list throwgh the web-form, it is possible to receive emails after that for subsribing confirmation to local email users which I tried to subsribe, is is possible to confirm subscription through the web but not through email Because email to mailman doesn't work as above. I improve the above but now I have the next: 1QsvUg-0004Bz-06 = a...@somename.name H=hostname ([0.0.0.0]) [76.11.218.145] P=esmtpsa X=TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256 A=plain:a...@somename.name S=744 id=4e49050b.5050...@somename.name from a...@somename.name for n...@list.somename.name 1QsvUg-0004Bz-06 ** n...@list.somename.name (n...@list.somename.name) n...@list.somename.name R=mailman T=mailman: Child process of mailman transport returned 2 from command: /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman 1QsvUg-0004Bz-06 Completed The subscribes receives the next emails: This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: n...@list.somename.name local delivery failed So, there are neither emails in the list (through e-mail) nor in the web-archive. and it is impossible to receive emails from list and to see the archive sending to list throupgh the web. Presumably this is again because mail TO the list is not received by Mailman. With accordance to the above I have some questions: 1) What I do wrong? For some reason, Exim is not routing list mail per the 'mailman' router. The only thing I see is that the require_files = MAILMAN_HOME/lists/$local_part/config.pck is not satisfied, presumably because MAILMAN_HOME is not defined to the correct path. ls -l /usr/local/mailman total 36 drwxrwsr-x 11 root mailman 1536 8 ��� 16:50 Mailman drwxrwsr-x 4 root mailman 512 8 ��� 12:09 archives drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 1024 8 ��� 12:09 bin drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 8 ��� 12:09 cgi-bin drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 8 ��� 12:09 cron drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 10 ��� 09:36 data drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 8 ��� 12:09 icons drwxrwsr-x 4 root mailman 512 8 ��� 12:45 lists drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 15 ��� 12:00 locks drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 13 ��� 07:30 logs drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 8 ��� 12:56 mail drwxrwsr-x 38 root mailman 512 8 ��� 12:09 messages drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 8 ��� 12:09 pythonlib drwxrwsr-x 11 root mailman 512 8 ��� 12:26 qfiles drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 8 ��� 12:09 scripts drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 8 ��� 12:09 spam drwxrwsr-x 39 root mailman 512 8 ��� 12:09 templates drwxrwsr-x 4 root mailman 512 8 ��� 12:09 tests pkg_info -L mailman-2.1.14_5 Information for mailman-2.1.14_5: Files: /usr/local/www/icons/PythonPowered.png /usr/local/www/icons/mailman.jpg /usr/local/www/icons/mm-icon.png /usr/local/www/icons/powerlogo.gif /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver
[Mailman-Users] Cannot to make work mailman correctly
I have a vds under Free-BSD-8.1-STABLE which I use for maintaining of public sites and etc. Under that vds I have a mailing system which consits from an exim-4.76 which receives and sends emails to/from local mail users and dovecot-1.2.17 which lets get receiving post to email-clients. I want to set up the Mailman for maintaining post lists. Firstly, created subdomain 'list.somename.name' in my bind-settings. It works correctly. Then, after installing the Mailman from ports, I set up my Apache to work with it. My Apache wokrs correctly too. Then I checked and changed my exim configuration file and etc and tested list verification command with the next result: exim -bt n...@list.somename.name Address rewritten as: n...@list.somename.name n...@list.somename.name -- n...@list.somename.name -- n...@list.somename.name -- n...@list.somename.name router = localuser, transport = local_delivery Further I created a site-wide mailing list and a mailing list as in described in /usr/local/share/doc/mailman/mailman-install.txt but it is not works well. It is possible to subscribe to list throwgh the web-form, it is possible to receive emails after that for subsribing confirmation to local email users which I tried to subsribe, is is possible to confirm subscription through the web but not through email and it is impossible to receive emails from list and to see the archive sending to list throupgh the web. With accordance to the above I have some questions: 1) What I do wrong? 2) Where is I need to indicate aliases after creating the new list - in /etc/aliases (which is a symbolic link to /etc/mail/aliases in FreeBSD) or in /usr/local/etc/exim/aliases? 3) Does it need to create in the /usr/local/etc/exim/passwd email-users such as maillistn...@list.somename.name or not? I don't read any about it in /usr/local/share/doc/mailman/mailman-install.txt and here http://www.exim.org/howto/mailman21.html and firstly I did not create 'em. I had the next exim logs that time: H=mail.somename.name [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] sender verify fail for news-boun...@list.somename.name: all relevant MX records point to non-existent hosts H=mail.somename.name [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] F=news-boun...@list.somename.name rejected RCPT mailman-ow...@list.somename.name: Sender verify failed H=mail.somename.name [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] sender verify fail for news-boun...@list.somename.name: all relevant MX records point to non-existent hosts H=mail.somename.name [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] F=news-boun...@list.somename.name rejected RCPT a...@somename.name: Sender verify failed H=router45-readme.domainname1.net ([0.0.0.0]) [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] F=a...@somename.name rejected RCPT mailman-requ...@list.somename.name: all relevant MX records point to non-existent hosts 4) If I need to create an email user for lists in /usr/local/etc/exim/passwd, how I can indicate to the Mailman its password for authentificaton? Or what I need to do instead? 5) If I need to create an email user for lists in /usr/local/etc/exim/passwd, what is home directory of it I need to indicate? As I think, I need to indicate one of the directories existing in /usr/local/mailman/archives, probably /usr/local/mailman/archives/public/nameoflist? I created public list named news through the web-form, but it was created the next symbolic link: ls -l /usr/local/mailman/archives/public lrwxr-xr-x 1 mailman mailman news - /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/news not a directory. So I have the next too: ls -l /usr/local/mailman/archives/private total 8 drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 mailman drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 mailman.mbox drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 512 news drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 512 news.mbox When I tried to indicate it as the email user news home directory in /usr/local/etc/exim/passwd and when I tried to indicate /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/news or /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/news.mbox as it, after sending an email to the list I had the next exim logs: 1Qqh5b-0001Qz-Kx == n...@list.somename.name (n...@list.somename.name, n...@list.somename.name) n...@list.somename.name R=localuser T=local_delivery defer (13): Permission denied: while creating mailbox /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/news.mbox/mbox 1Qqh5b-0001Qz-Kx == n...@list.somename.name (n...@list.somename.name, n...@list.somename.name) n...@list.somename.name R=localuser T=local_delivery defer (-52): Retry time not yet reached 6) As I use an email system for my usual needs consists from exim + dovecot, do I need to include the dovecot in working with my Mailman email list by any method? The current configuration file of my exim attached. Yours, James VIRUS_SCAN = yes POSTGREY_SOCKET = inet:127.0.0.1:10023 FREEBSD = yes MAILMAN_ENABLE = yes SPAMCBIN=__ISP_SPAMCBIN__ EXIMBIN=/usr/local/sbin/exim log_selector = \ +all_parents \ +lost_incoming_connection
[Mailman-Users] Gmail Admin/Owner Notifications
Having a weird issue with my mailman list. I am using my gmail account as the list owner and moderator. When an email is sent to the list from someone else I get the email from the list just fine, the problem is when someone joins the list I am not getting any of the email notifications at all, not even in spam. I switched to a non-gmail email address and I then get the notifications just fine. Very weird. Any help/suggestion? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught Runner Exception
On 18/04/10 01:43, Mark Sapiro wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: It appears that you (or someone) has installed the Spamassassin.py/spamd.py custom handler from https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/557991 and included it in the GLOBAL_PIPELINE or a lists' pipeline. Actually, on closer inspection, I think the most current Spamassassin.py/spamd.py code is at https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/266588. I have added a patch to spamd in comment # 23 of the report which I think will prevent shunting of the message when this exception occurs, and just log a one-line error log entry instead. Thanks for the help, especially on a Saturday evening! Patch sorted it all out, getting one line logs for the spamassassin timeouts, but at least the legit messages are getting delivered. -- James Kemp my games at http://www.full-moon.info/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Uncaught Runner Exception
I'm running mailman 2.1.13 on Ubuntu 9.10 out of the Ubuntu repositories. Mail server is postfix and I also have Apache and spamassassin on the same box, again all from the ubuntu repositories. Over the last couple of weeks I've noticed that a number of legitimate e-mails have failed to be delivered. All of these have been shunted and an error like the one repeated below is written to the error log. I've been through the mailman FAQ, the launchpad documentation and bugs for the ubuntu maintained package and googled a bit. I'm none the wiser about how to fix this problem. 2558 is the pid of the incoming runner, Apr 17 21:22:28 2010 (2558) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 104] Connection reset by peer Apr 17 21:22:28 2010 (2558) Traceback (most recent call last): File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 120, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 191, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 130, in _dispose more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 153, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SpamAssassin.py, line 76, in process score, symbols = check_message(mlist, str(msg)) File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SpamAssassin.py, line 62, in check_message res = connection.check(spamd.SYMBOLS, message) File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/spamd.py, line 122, in check response = fp.readline() File /usr/lib/python2.6/socket.py, line 406, in readline data = self._sock.recv(self._rbufsize) error: [Errno 104] Connection reset by peer Apr 17 21:22:28 2010 (2558) SHUNTING: 1271535747.4608049+d7d9c4e9e3ba323d632e260659b522bcbd48eacd -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Question on setting up mailman
Hello, I have a lot of troubles setting up the mailman on a linux box. Please help. I guess these are simple and common questions, so please help us. Many thanks. Now, I run the apache webserver under username say, tatac, which is also the group name. I have suexec configured for apache. Why the following configuration doesn't work? Do I need a DocumentRoot? I already run the suexec -V -D AP_DOC_ROOT=/ -D AP_GID_MIN=100 -D AP_HTTPD_USER=nobody -D AP_LOG_EXEC=/usr/local/apache/logs/suexec_log -D AP_SAFE_PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin -D AP_UID_MIN=100 -D AP_USERDIR_SUFFIX=public_html I hate this nobody thing, it has given me a lot of troubles already. I just don't want to run under nobody. mailman directory ownership is tatac:tatac VirtualHost xx.xx.xx.xx:80 ServerName list.tata.com ServerAlias list.tata.com IfModule !mod_disable_suexec.c SuexecUserGroup tatac tatac /IfModule Alias /mailman/archives /home/mailman/archives/public/ ScriptAlias /mailman/ /home/mailman/cgi-bin/ Directory /home/mailman/cgi-bin/ AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory Alias /pipermail/ /home/mailman/archives/public/ Directory /home/mailman/archives/public/ Options Indexes MultiViews FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory Directory /home/mailman/archives/public/ AddDefaultCharset off /Directory /VirtualHost Any comments and ideas where went wrong? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] many Subscription disabled messages after moving list to new server
Hi Andrew, I'd have a look to see if the email addresses that are being disabled come from similar domains... problem might be caused by reverse dns or spf records - check out http://knol.google.com/k/ruben-rubio-rey/mail-servers-spam-and-dns-records/2zt8z36uq2soj/5# for some ideas. Regards, James. I recently moved a list to a new host, but retained the domain name. After many travails, and help from this list, I got my list working. After about a week of function, I am suddenly getting many Subscription disabled messages (about 10% of the 4411 subscribers, so far, but still growing as I write). It is possible that these are legitimate, and these really are bad addresses, and that in the move of the list my bounce processing options changed to be more stringent. Current they are: bounce_processing=Yes bounce_score_threshold= 5.0 bounce_info_stale_after=7 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings=5 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings_interval=7 bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner=no bounce_notify_owner_on_disable=yes bounce_notify_owner_on_removal=yes But it seems likely that this is bogus, and good addresses are being disabled (especially if this grows to 100% of subscribers!) Has anyone experienced a similar problem? -Andrew -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/james%40thereidsonline.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Attempting to migrate mailman to a new server.
Rsynced over all the lists, qfiles, data etc. Now I think I just have a sendmail problem. Can't really seem to find anything applicable to my situation. Oct 21 12:00:02 bushlms01 sendmail[3836]: n9LH02nG003836: from=mail...@###.###, size=766, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=200910211700.n9lh01tl003...@mailman@###.###, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1] Oct 21 12:00:02 bushlms01 sendmail[3835]: n9LH01tL003835: to=mailman, ctladdr=mailman (500/500), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30464, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (n9LH02nG003836 Message accepted for delivery) Oct 21 12:00:03 bushlms01 sendmail[3837]: n9LH02nG003836: to=|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman, ctladdr=mail...@###.### (8/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=prog, pri=30986, dsn=5.3.0, stat=unknown mailer error 1 I have put a link in smrsh for mailman. I get this in the bounce. The e-mail system was unable to deliver the message, but did not report a specific reason. Check the address and try again. If it still fails, contact your system administrator. ###.### #5.0.0 X-Unix; 1 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Googlemail vs Gmail Bounce
Hi everyone, This is not the standard Gmail issue about receiving a copy of your posts. I have an issue with people using @gmail and @googlemail domains interchangably. I know some mailing lists you can configure to treat them as the same - is there a way to do that with Mailman? If someone subscribes with john...@gmail.com it would be great if sending email from john...@googlemail.com didn't bounce. Any ideas? Cheers, James -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] i need help for linux ubuntu
From: mailman-users@python.org On Behalf Of lady Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:44 PM Saluti a tutti gli utenti è la 1a volta che entro nel Mailman. Ho guardato spesso delle mail per sapere cose varie. Le mie domande: Come sapere differenze per esempio fra Gnome e KDE di Ubuntu nel mio caso. Poi Dovrei sapere di più sulle differenze tra Linux Ubuntu e Xubuntu che conosco pochissimo. Grazie di tutto Lady I need help for linux ubuntu I'm sorry, I don't speak Italian, although google translate gave me the gist. if you need help deciding which flavour of Ubuntu you want then you would be best asking on http://ubuntuforums.org/ If you want to know if it makes a difference to running mailman then I don't believe that the flavour does make any difference. -- James Kemp Head of Operational Analysis, Identity and Passport Service 4th Floor, West Wing, Allington Towers, Allington Street, London SW1E office: 020 3356 8084 mobile: 07970 559948 Register your interest now in the National Identity Service and the National Identity Card at http://www.direct.gov.uk/identity ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ** The original of this email was scanned for viruses by the Government Secure Intranet virus scanning service supplied by CableWireless in partnership with MessageLabs. (CCTM Certificate Number 2009/09/0052.) On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus free. Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored and/or recorded for legal purposes. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Question of adminstration
Hi, Sorry guys to bother you, but I cannot find anywhere the answer to my question I am doing some tests at the moment. What I want to do, is to create a mailing list, in order to send newsletters BUT Only the administrator and the moderator can send newsletters I don't want that the members in the list, can send any info, via our newsletter If they send any email, I would like to reject automatically the email. ( but not from the moderator or the Admin ) Thanks -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unmoderated list member recieving msgs, but unable to post to the list
Text/html is allowed. I even added his address to the list administrators. The only logging I get is when I set his moderation bit. -Original Message- From: mailman-users-bounces+james.millsap=chicagobooth@python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+james.millsap=chicagobooth@python.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Goldberg Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 11:34 PM To: Stephen J. Turnbull Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Unmoderated list member recieving msgs,but unable to post to the list On May 21, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Mark Sapiro writes: There is nothing left of his message after content filtering. Which at a guess means he was posting in HTML only, and your list is set to filter HTML. If that is the case, it is strongly recommended that you teach your member to set his mail client to post in plain text (with or without HTML). Depending on what is meant by nothing, I've seen something like this happen another way. Some clients will create a multipart/alternative message with a text/plain alternate and a text/html alternate. But these clients will just put a note in the text/plain part that says roughly, read the HTML part. So with normal stripping of the text/html alternative all that comes through is a text/plain message that says read the other part. This naturally confuses list members, although I consider mailman's behavior absolutely correct. The originating client is lying when it claims that it's produced a multipart/alternative message. And naturally I concur with what I've snipped of your message, encouraging people to send only text/plain email. Anyway, the OP should have the user cc the list administrator with their next posting attempt. That way, you can examine the structure of the message that got submitted. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberghttp://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/james.millsap%40chi cagobooth.edu Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Unmoderated list member recieving msgs, but unable to post to the list
Hello, Have not been able to find anything on this. Bit of a strange one. I have a list with about thirty members. One member has reported that he cannot post to the list, ever though he was able to a few months ago. I investigated, and he was not moderated , nor were members disallowed from posting. I removed, and re-subscribed him, deleted and re-created the list without effect. He sends a msg, I can follow it in the MTA being delivered to our mailman server. On the mailman server there is no log or acknowledgement of a msg being sent. I then moderated the list and his msg was waiting for moderation. I released it to the list, and it disappeared. No delivery, no error. Kind of stumped. We have hundreds of lists, with thousands of msgs being posted . Not sure what the deal is with this one list/user. Thanks in advance. James Millsap Computing Services University of Chicago Booth School of Business 5807 South Woodlawn Avenue Chicago, IL 60637 (773)702-7955 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation On Separate Server Plausible?
Hi Brad, Is this something that would become *easier* if it were done using the MYSQL plugin that is floating around? Thanks! James. on 5/14/09 8:45 PM, Carlos Williams said: I am being told that my Postfix email server can no longer run Apache on the same physical server. The management has decided for specific reasons that Apache can only be installed and configured on the web server, not the mail server. The mail server will simply run Postfix / Dovecot. You can certainly configure Mailman to use your new mail-only server as the external mail interface to the world, but I think you're going to need to have some sort of mail server running on the web server machine, even if that mail server is not otherwise externally accessible. The reason is because of the way that messages are handed off to Mailman -- via e-mail. The only other solution I can see is to have your mail server and web server both mount and share the same file storage, so that the mail server can provide the message input to Mailman (as well as the archiving, mailing the messages back out to the subscribers, etc...), and the web server can provide the WebUI for interacting with Mailman. However, neither of these is an easy configuration to set up or maintain, at least not relative to the typical method. I think we've got some pointers on doing this kind of thing in the FAQ and in the archives of this list, but there may be some details which are not clear to you and will need further clarification. This will force me to move web mail (RoundCube) MailMan to my web server! My question is can I have MailMan function from scratch (no data needs to be migrated to the new install) from my web server and work? You still need access to the data. You can't just install a web server on another machine and expect it to magically have all the data. And you still need to provide some way to update that data, and you still need some way to provide e-mail input and output to that system. There are a few ways to solve these issues, but each has a different set of trade-offs, etc -- Brad Knowles b...@shub-internet.orgIf you like Jazz/RB guitar, check out LinkedIn Profile: my friend bigsbytracks on YouTube at http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxuhttp://preview.tinyurl.com/bigsbytracks -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/james%40thereidsonline.com Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Email commands to list-requests
Mailman version 2.1.11 on a hosted service ... As far as I can tell by experimentation, the email admin commands (such as who to get a membership list) work only when they are in the subject line of the request. The command is not recognized in the body of the message, even if it is the only content in the body of the message and even if there is no subject line in the message. Is this the intended behavior? I'm setting up a cron job to backup my mailing list membership rosters, because I do not have access to the Mailman commandline tools on the hosting server. I'd prefer not to put the owner/moderator password in the Subject: line, if possible. Granted, putting the password in the message body is not terribly secure. But subject lines get logged by transit MTAs, at least some of the time; message bodies rarely get logged. (As an aside: the emailed command in message body works with MajorDomo.) Thanks, Beau -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] What does this message mean?
Hi Everyone, I have one single user on one of my lists whose posts regularly (though not always) result in her messages coming to me as list owner with the following message: The attached message has been automatically discarded. As far as I can see: - The user is sending from a subscribed address (only subscribers can send to the list) - The message is not too big The only thing that I can guess might be a problem is that the user is renown for bcc'ing quite a few others in her posts, but I can't see how that could affect things (the other addresses would have disappeared by the time it got to my mailman server - the user is on the internet) Can someone give me some suggestion on what the problem might be? Thanks! James. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Triggering password reminders from the Web UI?
MailMan 2.1.11, on a shared-hosting ISP ... Is there any way from the Web UI for the list administrator to trigger mailman to send the password reminder to all list members? (The administrator can trigger it to a specific member.) Is there any way to find out via the Web UI, the schedule on which password reminders will be sent to the entire list when send monthly password reminders is selected on the general list properties? Thanks. Beau -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting up mailman on ubuntu 8.10 / desktop andserver
From: mailman-users@python.org On Behalf Of Jones, Scott (GE Money, consultant) Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:07 PM I recently attempted to set up Mailman on my ubuntu machine. I have been running several lists on an older machine running etch, which has worked fine, but when attempting the install on 8.10 desktop, I kept running into errors and roadblocks. Is it just me or are there issues and workarounds required for 8.10 installation and operation? I've got 8.10 and mailman is working just fine. That said, I installed it originally on 7.04 and have been through three distro upgrades (with a fourth coming imminently). I did have some teething problems, but resolved them by reading through the documentation. My setup is postfix, apache2 and mailman from the ubuntu packages. If interested I am willing to share my (anonymised) config files. -- James Kemp All views expressed in this e-mail are my personal views and not those of my employer. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ** The original of this email was scanned for viruses by the Government Secure Intranet virus scanning service supplied by CableWireless in partnership with MessageLabs. (CCTM Certificate Number 2007/11/0032.) On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus free. Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored and/or recorded for legal purposes. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Poster not Receiving Postings
-- That's a known problem with gmail. -- -- Some of us appreciate the feature of non-duplication based on Message-Id. And many of us do not. At the very least, it should be a gmail behavior that is configurable by each user account. Not a mother knows what's best global behavior. Beau -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request
Hi Everyone, For what it is worth... I'd like to be able to have all the options that are available in the user management screen available in the bulk subscription screen. I operate a list which is closed to anyone except by personal invite, so pretty much use the bulk subscribe option for all of my subscriptions. A large number of my subscribers come are older in age, and typically are quite timid to do anything more than send and receive emails. The result is that they generally email me to advise of changes to their subscriptions + email addresses of others who want to join the list - it would be far easier to both add the new user and configure all from the bulk subscription page. Personally, I'd also like to move away from calling this option bulk subscriptions - adding subscribers one-at-a-time is not bulk!!! Regards, James. Michael Welch wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote at 05:27 PM 3/16/2009: Michael Welch wrote: Ahh, a workaround. Change the default setting, add the member, then change it back. Unfortunately, one has to wait until after the new member has confirmed before changing the default moderation settng back. I don't get it. Why would you want to moderate new members you invite and not moderate new members who subscribe themselves? If anything, this seems just backwards. Fair enough question. One actual and one theoretical answer. The actual case that just occurred was that a known off-topic poster from another related list wants to join the list in question. The list in question has no public component, so subscription requests beyond personal invitation are rare. So what you really want is in some (unusual) cases but not all (normal cases) to be able to send an invitation that when accepted will result in a moderated member. As far as a direct add is concerned, the easiest is add the member and then set her moderated from the membership list. I don't know if adding a 'moderate' flag to invitations is really of general interest. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/james%40thereidsonline.com Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Why does this happen???
Hi Everyone, Can someone please explain why I have a small number of users who occasionally send message to mylist-boun...@domain.com instead of to the correct address myl...@domain.com ? I suspect that it is to do with the email client that they are using and whether they are replying or reply-to-all, but don't see it happening often enough to be able to figure it out (I'd like to add something to the sign-on message for the group to give people more info on how to avoid this problem). Thanks! James. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Is it possible to delay messages?
Hi Everyone, I have a list that I ran for a number of years un-moderated However, a few months ago the list went through a bit of turmoil, and as a result I had to turn moderation on. The mere fact that the list is now moderated has acted as a deterrent to those who were causing problems, and as a result the list is now running smoothly again. I'm also finding that moderating the list is taking up too much of my time (even if it means simply approving messages to go out). What I would like to now do is move to a sort of half-way ground of permitting many members to send messages out un-moderated again. However, I'd like to give the impression that the list is still fully moderated by creating an automated delay for all un-moderated subscribers (possibly even 2-3 hours, though a random interval would be even better) between when their messages are received and when they are sent out to the list. I'm using a combination of postfix and mailman... can anyone give me a suggestion of how I could create a delay somewhere? Thanks! James. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Linux Preferred?
Someone known as Tim Ferguson t...@ccs135.com scribed the following at 09:07:02 on Tue, 27 Jan 2009, allegedly: Is there a preferred flavor of Linux that Mailman seems to work and install the best with? I'm trying Ubuntu, but the apt-get feature is getting hung up on trying to find the repositories and can't, so, until I get that fixed I just thought I'd ask. I've got mine on Ubuntu (8.10, with postfix apache). All from use of apt-get. One thing I have noticed, shortly after upgrading to 8.10, was that my repositories stopped working properly and I needed to replace the contents of the file. If that's the case for you ubuntuforums will sort you out with all the info required. -- James Kemp see Alexander at http://www.ajkemp.org/gallery/ or my games at http://www.full-moon.info/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Security consequences of adding www user to mailman group
I need to run bin/add_member in our Mailman 2.1.11 list server installation from a cgi/perl script. Normally, it has to run as root. The easy solution was to add the www user to the mailman group. You can then: open(LISTSERVER, '|/usr/local/mailman/bin/add_members -r- '.$list_name); print LISTSERVER $email; close(LISTSERVER); My question is are there any security consequences from adding the Apache2 user to the mailman group I should be aware of. I don't want to inadvertently allow spammers to add themselves to our lists. The cgi script that I'm using is well protected by pubcookie and ip restriction to ensure that only authorized administrators can add new addresses. Thanks, James Riendeau MMI Computer Support Technician Rm. 1541, Dept. of MedMicro 1550 Linden Drive Madison, WI 53706-1521 Phone: (608) 262-3351 After-hours Phone: (608) 260-2696 Fax: (608) 262-8418 Email: jtrie...@wisc.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Duplicate Subscription Confirmations
Thank you, Mark. I think you're right. I don't see the problem often enough to merit implementing a fix. I do have one additional pair of questions, if you please. I had a problem with permissions that prevented the Mailman GUI from successfully creating list. The GUI returned the following error: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.9 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. and the error log shows: Dec 12 11:35:27 2008 (3669) command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias /etc/mailman/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted) Dec 12 11:35:27 2008 admin(3669): admin(3669): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.9 -] admin(3669): [- Traceback --] admin(3669): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(3669): File /usr/lib/mailman/scripts/driver, line 101, in run_main admin(3669):main() admin(3669): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py, line 56, in main admin(3669):process_request(doc, cgidata) admin(3669): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py, line 238, in process_request admin(3669):sys.modules[modname].create(mlist, cgi=1) admin(3669): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py, line 232, in create admin(3669):_update_maps() admin(3669): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py, line 53, in _update_maps admin(3669):raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr) admin(3669): RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias /etc/mailman/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted) admin(3669): [- Python Information -] admin(3669): sys.version= 2.4.3 (#1, May 24 2008, 13:47:28) [GCC 4.1.2 20070626 (Red Hat 4.1.2-14)] admin(3669): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(3669): sys.prefix = /usr admin(3669): sys.exec_prefix = /usr admin(3669): sys.path= /usr admin(3669): sys.platform= linux2 admin(3669): [- Environment Variables -] admin(3669):HTTP_COOKIE: campaignions+admin=28020069b64b414973280030666530653230363239653337353438316264303639656238333931376436376433323766386362 admin(3669):SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/2.2.3 (CentOS) admin(3669):SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/create admin(3669):SERVER_SIGNATURE: addressApache/2.2.3 (CentOS) Server at hostname.com Port 80/address admin(3669): admin(3669):REQUEST_METHOD: POST admin(3669):HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE: 300 admin(3669):SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 admin(3669):QUERY_STRING: admin(3669):CONTENT_LENGTH: 153 admin(3669):HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 admin(3669):HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.2; en-US; rv:1.9.0.4) Gecko/2008102920 Firefox/3.0.4 admin(3669):HTTP_CONNECTION: keep-alive admin(3669):HTTP_REFERER: http://hostname.com/mailman/create admin(3669):SERVER_NAME: hostname.com admin(3669):REMOTE_ADDR: X.X.X.X admin(3669):SERVER_PORT: 80 admin(3669):SERVER_ADDR: X.X.X.X admin(3669):DOCUMENT_ROOT: /var/www/html admin(3669):PYTHONPATH: /usr/lib/mailman admin(3669):SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/create admin(3669):SERVER_ADMIN: r...@localhost admin(3669):HTTP_HOST: hostname.com admin(3669):REQUEST_URI: /mailman/create admin(3669):HTTP_ACCEPT: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 admin(3669):GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 admin(3669):REMOTE_PORT: 3314 admin(3669):HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en-us,en;q=0.5 admin(3669):CONTENT_TYPE: application/x-www-form-urlencoded admin(3669):HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip,deflate The problem was alleged to be caused by thefact that the web server process owner apache was calling this process. Apparently, this user did not have permissions to execute the command. After fiddling with ownerships and permissions, I was never able to resolve the problem and had to resort to command line newlist to create all lists. Do you have any idea what is causing this problem? Also, (and this may be related), I am seeing the following error in the Mailman error log: Dec 11 15:51:24 2008 (2107) SHUNTING: 1229039483.4080291+18102d31f7e1d52f9d4ca593ddb48d23f9e7d00e Dec 11 15:51:24 2008 (2104) Archive file access failure: /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox' Dec 11 15:51:24 2008 (2104) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox' Dec 11 15:51:24 2008 (2104) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 112, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 170, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File
Re: [Mailman-Users] Duplicate Subscription Confirmations
Thank you, Mark. I think you're right. I don't see the problem often enough to merit implementing a fix. I do have one additional pair of questions, if you please. I had a problem with permissions that prevented the Mailman GUI from successfully creating list. The GUI returned the following error: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.9 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. and the error log shows: Dec 12 11:35:27 2008 (3669) command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias /etc/mailman/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted) Dec 12 11:35:27 2008 admin(3669): admin(3669): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.9 -] admin(3669): [- Traceback --] admin(3669): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(3669): File /usr/lib/mailman/scripts/driver, line 101, in run_main admin(3669): main() admin(3669): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py, line 56, in main admin(3669): process_request(doc, cgidata) admin(3669): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py, line 238, in process_request admin(3669): sys.modules[modname].create(mlist, cgi=1) admin(3669): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py, line 232, in create admin(3669): _update_maps() admin(3669): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py, line 53, in _update_maps admin(3669): raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr) admin(3669): RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias /etc/mailman/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted) admin(3669): [- Python Information -] admin(3669): sys.version = 2.4.3 (#1, May 24 2008, 13:47:28) [GCC 4.1.2 20070626 (Red Hat 4.1.2-14)] admin(3669): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(3669): sys.prefix = /usr admin(3669): sys.exec_prefix = /usr admin(3669): sys.path= /usr admin(3669): sys.platform= linux2 admin(3669): [- Environment Variables -] admin(3669):HTTP_COOKIE: campaignions+admin=28020069b64b414973280030666530653230363239653337353438316264303639656238333931376436376433323766386362 admin(3669):SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/2.2.3 (CentOS) admin(3669):SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/create admin(3669):SERVER_SIGNATURE: addressApache/2.2.3 (CentOS) Server at hostname.com Port 80/address admin(3669): admin(3669):REQUEST_METHOD: POST admin(3669):HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE: 300 admin(3669):SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 admin(3669):QUERY_STRING: admin(3669):CONTENT_LENGTH: 153 admin(3669):HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 admin(3669):HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.2; en-US; rv:1.9.0.4) Gecko/2008102920 Firefox/3.0.4 admin(3669):HTTP_CONNECTION: keep-alive admin(3669):HTTP_REFERER: http://hostname.com/mailman/create admin(3669):SERVER_NAME: hostname.com admin(3669):REMOTE_ADDR: X.X.X.X admin(3669):SERVER_PORT: 80 admin(3669):SERVER_ADDR: X.X.X.X admin(3669):DOCUMENT_ROOT: /var/www/html admin(3669):PYTHONPATH: /usr/lib/mailman admin(3669):SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/create admin(3669):SERVER_ADMIN: r...@localhost admin(3669):HTTP_HOST: hostname.com admin(3669):REQUEST_URI: /mailman/create admin(3669):HTTP_ACCEPT: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 admin(3669):GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 admin(3669):REMOTE_PORT: 3314 admin(3669):HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en-us,en;q=0.5 admin(3669):CONTENT_TYPE: application/x-www-form-urlencoded admin(3669):HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip,deflate The problem was alleged to be caused by thefact that the web server process owner apache was calling this process. Apparently, this user did not have permissions to execute the command. After fiddling with ownerships and permissions, I was never able to resolve the problem and had to resort to command line newlist to create all lists. Do you have any idea what is causing this problem? Also, (and this may be related), I am seeing the following error in the Mailman error log: Dec 11 15:51:24 2008 (2107) SHUNTING: 1229039483.4080291+18102d31f7e1d52f9d4ca593ddb48d23f9e7d00e Dec 11 15:51:24 2008 (2104) Archive file access failure: /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox' Dec 11 15:51:24 2008 (2104) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox' Dec 11 15:51:24 2008 (2104) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 112, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 170, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File
[Mailman-Users] Duplicate Subscription Confirmations
Hi. Have you ever seen Mailman issue duplicate subscription requests? When a user sends a request to subscribe, he is receiving two confirmations for each request. Nothing obvious is apparent in the logs and the confirmations are properly formatted. Email is flowing well (using Postfix as the MTA). Has anyone seen this problem before? Do you have any suggestions as to how to approach this problem? Here is some environmental information: OS - CentOS 5.2 (2.6.18-92.1.10.el5) Mailman - 2.1.9 Postfix - 2.3.3 Python - 2.4.3 Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jim -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with moving lists
On Dec 5, 2008, at 9:53 AM, Brad Knowles wrote: James Gallagher wrote: I moved a set of lists from one host mailman installation to another host running Mailman 2.1.11rc2. I followed the advice in the FAQ regarding moving lists and it seemed to work OK but I notice two issues. First, messages to the lists are not being archived - I've checked the permissions on the .mbox files, et c., and they are the same as with new lists where archiving does work. What are your ownership and permissions like? What happens when you run ~Mailman/bin/check_perms? Not all of the things in FAQ 4.78 (see http://wiki.list.org/x/A4E9) are going to be relevant to your problem here, but there are lots of good general debugging steps that are listed there. One thing that shouldn't matter is that I ran configure before I copied the lists - I forget if that's the order used in the FAQ answer. I'm not convinced that won't create a problem for you, but I'll leave that question for Mark. The second question, and it might provide a clue regarding the first, is that I have the lists in question set to prefix the message subject with the name of the list in brackets. Again, that works with the new lists but not with the moved lists. That sounds like a configuration file that is not in the right place, and that might potentially be caused by the configure not being done in the correct place on the correct system. There were two problems: One I needed to re-run configure and use -- with-username and two, I failed to configure some host-specific settings so mailman was never actually getting my test messages. Thanks for the help with the basic configuration stuff. James -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- James Gallagher jgallagher at opendap.org 406.723.8663 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Problem with moving lists
Hi, I moved a set of lists from one host mailman installation to another host running Mailman 2.1.11rc2. I followed the advice in the FAQ regarding moving lists and it seemed to work OK but I notice two issues. First, messages to the lists are not being archived - I've checked the permissions on the .mbox files, et c., and they are the same as with new lists where archiving does work. One thing that shouldn't matter is that I ran configure before I copied the lists - I forget if that's the order used in the FAQ answer. The second question, and it might provide a clue regarding the first, is that I have the lists in question set to prefix the message subject with the name of the list in brackets. Again, that works with the new lists but not with the moved lists. Thanks, James -- James Gallagher jgallagher at opendap.org 406.723.8663 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] How about throttling?
Hi Everyone, Why not try using outbound QOS (eg Shorewall)? I'm using it on one of my servers - works perfectly slowing down the amount of traffic that the server pushes out on to the network. Regards, James. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Sapiro Sent: Thursday, 4 December 2008 3:47 PM To: Grant Taylor; Mail List - Mailman Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] How about throttling? Grant Taylor wrote: I believe it is possible to have Mailman use the sendmail (binary / command) rather than SMTP direct to send emails. Yes, but read all the caveats and warnings in Mailman/Handlers/Sendmail.py. Don't do it. Besides, SMTPDirect delivers via the local MTA, so if you're going to implement throttling in the MTA (as we recommend in the FAQ - http://wiki.list.org/x/j4A9), you still can use SMTPDirect. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/james%40thereidsonline. com Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman archiver not archiving
Problem solved. The root cause turned out to be wrong file ownership of the aliases file in /etc/mailman. James Chapman wrote: I've set up postfix / dovecot / mailman on my server and it works well, except that no messages to mailman lists are archived. The server hosts several domains, though mailman serves only one of the domains. Mail is delivered to mailing list subscribers as expected, but the messages are never added to the mbox archive file. Mailman logs show no errors. I'm using Fedora 9, mailman 2.1.9, python 2.5.1, postfix 2.5.1, all installed from standard f9 RPMs. Archiving is enabled. The aliases for the mailman lists are set up correctly. Regular users have mail delivered in Maildir format. Does this affect mailman? Any suggestions for things to check? Thanks! /james -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] mailman archiver not archiving
I've set up postfix / dovecot / mailman on my server and it works well, except that no messages to mailman lists are archived. The server hosts several domains, though mailman serves only one of the domains. Mail is delivered to mailing list subscribers as expected, but the messages are never added to the mbox archive file. Mailman logs show no errors. I'm using Fedora 9, mailman 2.1.9, python 2.5.1, postfix 2.5.1, all installed from standard f9 RPMs. Archiving is enabled. The aliases for the mailman lists are set up correctly. Regular users have mail delivered in Maildir format. Does this affect mailman? Any suggestions for things to check? Thanks! /james -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Dealing with ISPs that blacklist by message volune?
Wondering whether anyone has suggestions for dealing with this situation. I run two mailing lists for coachess (577 members) and referees (377 members) in a local volunteer youth sports group. Not exactly large lists, and typically low traffic - 3 or 4 messages on a busy day, none at all most days. But occasionally, there will be a couple of back-to-back messages e.g. a question and reply. Because it is a local organization, the list members tend to have email addresses concentrated in a few ISP domains e.g sbcglobal.net, comcast.net (plus a lot who use Yahoo or Gmail, of course). Last week and again last night, the ISP server that hosts our domain suddenly found itself on multiple blacklists. The trigger seems to be that some of our subscriber's ISP domans don't like too many incoming messages per hour from one originating domain. Example: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domain ayso45.org has exceeded the max emails per hour. Message discarded. Worse, some of these ISPs apparently report the domain and the IP address of the originating MTA to some of the blacklist siets. In very short order, we're dead. And so are all the other lists hosted on our ISPs server. Rate-limiting messages from an originating domain seems like a brain-dead anti-SPAM algorithm that makes discsussion lists unusable. Our hosting ISP tells me that we have to keep it under 60 *outbound* messages per hour to stay under these recipient ISP's radar, and has suggested using phplist to do so). At 60 messages per hour, a single message to our small lists would take 15 hours to be distributed (if the rate limiting is global and not per recipient domain). How are other's dealing with this? Thanks, Beau -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] want to slow down the post of server
I think you could set things up so that mailman talks to sendmail / postfix via tcp, which could then be throttled using shorewall -Original Message- From: Zbigniew Szalbot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 1 September 2008 10:08 PM To: James Reid Cc: 'Burcu İnci'; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] want to slow down the post of server Hi, James Reid: The best way I have found to throttle the number of messages coming out of mailman is to use something like the QOS service found in Shorewall. This allows you to control how much of the available bandwidth is used going out of your server + prioritise SMTP with other protocols. But he was referring to his server load increasing so much that it ceases to operate in a stable manner, which throttling bandwidth won't help, or will it? -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.LCWords.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] several questions.
Hey all. I run a publicity company, and we regularly email mp3s to our email list of a couple thousand DJs. I have MailMan on my Plesk server interface, and Im wondering if MM can help make that process easier for me. A few questions. 1. Does MailMan support attachments? I read that it does, but I want to be sure. MM is no good to me if it doesnt. 2. Can I put a custom message in the subscription email that people receive when I add them to the mailing list? That way they know exactly who I am when they receive the subscription email. 3. If someone replies to the email I send them via MM, where is that email sent to? The email address I used to send the message to my MM list for distribution? Or the mailing list email itself? And in that case, where do I go to read it? 4. Thirty minutes ago I added two of my email addresses to a test list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), then I sent an email with a 4MB mp3 attached to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Neither of those email addresses have received that email yet. Did I do it right? How long does MM normally take to send? If I was to send the same email to, say, 1,000 contacts, how long should I reasonably expect it to take for everyone to receive the email? 5. The Plesk pdf tells me I can access the mailing list by going to http://lists.my-domain.com/mailman/admin/listname (in my case, http://lists.dunndealpr.com/mailman/admin/djs), but when I do so I receive an error message. Why? Thanks in advance for your help. Im new to all this. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Restricting throughput
Hi Everyone, I've been running mailman for sometime (2 years) plus with all working fine. However, I have one list that is now getting very busy, both by volume of messages sent + size of each message + total number of subscribers. I now have a problem where if someone sends a 1MB message to the list that mailman will end up using almost all of the available bandwidth on my internet connection, making it difficult for other mail and web service to get out. I'm looking at implementing QOS on my internet router with a view to giving mailman traffic a low priority, but am also wondering if I can slow things down at the mailman end. I've looked at making adjustments to the following variables, but am not quite sure whether these would have the desired effect or what combination to use: SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 20 SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = 0 MAX_DELIVERY_THREADS = 0 Could someone give me some suggestions? Thanks! James. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Authorization required with Firefox 3: Packet capture attached
Mark Sapiro wrote: James Cort wrote: Line-based text data: application/x-www-form-urlencoded adminpw=zzzadmlogin=Let+me+in... (I have elided the actual password here). Is the password correct? In particular, is the final character preceding admlogin=Let+me+in... actually part of the password or is the password only the first 10 characters? Also, see https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1996767group_id=103atid=100103 for another report of this issue which was apparently a copy/paste issue. Are you pasting the password into the form or typing it? It's not the correct password any more, because I've changed it. But looking at the link, yes I think you're right. Though most of those details hadn't been added when I first looked a few weeks ago ;) Sorry for wasting your time. James. -- James Cort IT Manager U4EA Technologies Ltd. -- U4EA Technologies http://www.u4eatech.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Authorization required with Firefox 3: Packet capture attached
Dear All, Apologies for the delay in replying; I think Mark's go ahead message got eaten by my spam filter. The issue concerns Firefox 3 being unable to authenticate with Mailman successfully as per earlier email on the subject dated 4 July 2008, archived at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg50050.html A packet capture taken from my PC is attached; it should open in Ethereal or Wireshark. -- James Cort IT Manager U4EA Technologies Ltd. -- U4EA Technologies http://www.u4eatech.com Ôò¡ ÿÿ $;nHä 6 6 ) R .U² E ([EMAIL PROTECTED](¬ zp PCàÃ㬮Pÿ©^ $;nH).U² ) R E ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@¦¬ z¬ ( Pp¬®CàÃäP-F0æ$;nH¡ )[EMAIL PROTECTED](¬ zpÌ PVâb¾pÿÿÄ\ ì$;nH}¢.U² )[EMAIL PROTECTED]@¥ú¬ z¬ ( PpÌæ§ØVâb¿pÐkô ´$;nHÀ¢ 6 6 ) R .U² E ([EMAIL PROTECTED](¬ zpÌ PVâb¿æ§ÙPÿÿ¯ $;nH£ )[EMAIL PROTECTED](¬ zpÌ PVâb¿æ§ÙPÿÿT¹ POST /mailman/admin/chat HTTP/1.1 Host: lists.u4eatech.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008052906 Firefox/3.0 Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 Accept-Language: en-gb,en;q=0.5 Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 Keep-Alive: 300 Connection: keep-alive Referer: http://lists.u4eatech.com/mailman/admin/chat Cookie: it-discussion+user+james.cort--at--u4eatech.com=28020069f6396e487328006664326465323962663662343935333232343739353837353438376437323231316633383430 Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded Content-Length: 41 adminpw=xiciimtaso+admlogin=Let+me+in...$;nH²¤.U² ) R E ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@Ís¬ z¬ ( PpÌæ§ÙVâeP $;nH~ .U² )[EMAIL PROTECTED]@Ȭ z¬ ( PpÌæ§ÙVâeP ÷ HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:01:48 GMT Server: Apache Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100 Connection: Keep-Alive Transfer-Encoding: chunked Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii 7d5 html head titleChat Administrator Authentication/title /head body bgcolor=#ff FORM METHOD=POST ACTION=/mailman/admin/chat font color=#ff size=+1strongfont size=+1Authorization failed./font/strong/font TABLE WIDTH=100% BORDER=0 CELLSPACING=4 CELLPADDING=5 TR TD COLSPAN=2 WIDTH=100% BGCOLOR=#99CCFF ALIGN=CENTER BFONT COLOR=#00 SIZE=+1Chat Administrator Authentication/FONT/B /TD /TR tr TDdiv ALIGN=RightList Administrator Password:/div/TD TDINPUT TYPE=password NAME=adminpw SIZE=30/TD /tr tr td colspan=2 align=middleINPUT type=SUBMIT name=admlogin value=Let me in... /td /tr /TABLE pstrongemImportant:/em/strong From this point on, you must have cookies enabled in your browser, otherwise no administrative changes will take effect. pSession cookies are used in Mailman$;nHX~ î î .U² )[EMAIL PROTECTED]@ɹ¬ z¬ ( PpÌæ¬ÅVâeP jU 's administrative interface so that you don't need to re-authenticate with every administrative operation. This cookie will expire automatically when you exit your browser, or you can explicitly expire the cookie by hitting the emLogout/em link under emOther Administrative Activities/em (which you'll see once you successfully log in). /FORM /body /html hraddressa href=http://lists.u4eatech.com/mailman/listinfo/chat;Chat/a list run by a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]it at u4eatech.com/abra href=http://lists.u4eatech.com/mailman/admin/chat;Chat administrative interface/a (requires authorization)bra href=http://lists.u4eatech.com/mailman/listinfo;Overview of all lists.u4eatech.com mailing lists/ap table WIDTH=100% BORDER=0 tr tdimg src=/icons/mailman.jpg alt=Delivered by Mailman border=0brversion 2.1.9rc1/td tdimg $;nH~ 6 6 ) R .U² E ([EMAIL PROTECTED](¬ zpÌ PVâeæ°}Pÿÿ¤ $;nHt° ë ë.U² )[EMAIL PROTECTED]@Ì»¬ z¬ ( PpÌæ°}VâeP ½ af src=/icons/PythonPowered.png alt=Python Powered border=0/td tdimg src=/icons/gnu-head-tiny.jpg alt=GNU's Not Unix border=0/td /tr /table /address $;nHÙº .U² )[EMAIL PROTECTED]@Íj¬ z¬ ( PpÌæ±2VâeP C 0 $;nH3» 6 6 ) R .U² E ([EMAIL PROTECTED](¬ zpÌ PVâeæ±7PÿE¤ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Authorization required with FireFox 3
I've found that I have the same problem with Firefox 3 and Mailman 2.1.9rc1, viz. I can log in with setting the URL ?adminpw=password but the admin login interface always returns Authorization failed. Once logged in with ?adminpw=, everything works as it should. I can mass-subscribe members, edit settings and logout as I'd want. The login for the user list membership configuration page works just fine, as does visiting the subscriber list on lists with a protected subscriber list and viewing list archives. I've used ethereal to capture the traffic between my PC and the list server. The capture file is about 4kb; would there be a problem with me attaching it to a mail to this list? The underlying platform is Gentoo Linux with Python 2.3.5. -- James Cort IT Manager U4EA Technologies Ltd. -- U4EA Technologies http://www.u4eatech.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Authorization required with FireFox 3
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sascha Schmidt Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 7:22 AM yesterday, 2 days after the release of FireFox 3 I'm trying to login to my mailman 2.1.10 installation. After entering the correct password the errormessage Authorization failed is shown. Deleting the Browser Cache/Cookies didn't fix the problem. There's no problem logging in with Firefox 2 and IE. Someone can reproduce this behaviour? At home I've been using the beta of Firefox 3 on an ubuntu machine with no problems authenticating. I've also been using IE here and Firefox 2 on a windows vista laptop, also with no trouble. Are you absolutely sure you got the right password in, no caps lock on, or accidentally hitting the wrong key? -- James Kemp All views expressed in this e-mail are my personal views and not those of my employer. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ** The original of this email was scanned for viruses by the Government Secure Intranet virus scanning service supplied by CableWireless in partnership with MessageLabs. (CCTM Certificate Number 2007/11/0032.) On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus free. Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored and/or recorded for legal purposes. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Server Overload Issues
At 3/6/2008 04:47 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: My immediate suggestion is to find a new mailman host/provider. Allowing only 50 outgoing messages per hour seems to be a little severe. Based upon the average size list that we host, I would say 80-100 members would be considered a small list by us. How many posts are made to these lists on a per day or hour basis? An average figure would do. It is not clear to me that all of the providers where I am having problems are metering the number of messages sent at one time. At least some of my issues appear to be related to the Yahoo and AOL type problems discussed on the list in the last few days. As far as the host that had the 50 messages per hour limit, when challenged they revised this to 500 per hour. Unfortunately, I do not consider this a solution. I have a total of 13 lists at that host which vary from 5 to 407 members. Although all of these lists are low volume lists, this limit still prevents even two messages per hour from my largest list, and if several of them were active at one time I will encounter the limit with what I consider minimal activity. This is clearly an issue I need to pursue with the ISP. My suggestion is to check us out at http://www.emwd.com/mailman.html. We do not throttle our smtp servers nor do we overload our servers. We have had a number of people come to us from other hosts who had treated their mailman clients poorly. No one running a mailing list should tolerate the loss of mail as being part of the service that they are paying for. The offering looks great Brian except for the fact that it would be 10X - 20X more expensive than what I current pay. I guess you are telling me that I am getting what I am paying for. That may be the case but is certainly not what I bargained for when I recently moved four domains thinking I was making a positive move. The limited response to my posting either suggests that you said it all, or at least that I am in the minority with this problem. Since you and Mark suggest it is not a chronic Mailman problem, I'll not waste anymore bandwidth here. Thank You, Regards, Brian -- - JimF James T. Fortney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Server Overload Issues
Barry, Mark, et all - I use multiple Mailman implementations on several ISPs and am generally very pleased with its operation. I have one issue that seems to exist to one degree or another with all of them and I would appreciate some insight from the experienced users. I have problems on my larger lists (they range from 85 to 420 members) with loss of outgoing mail. I have been able to identify what are apparently multiple reasons for these problems. All of them seem to be associated with server overload. At least one of my ISPs had a default limit of 50 outgoing messages per hour (I do not know how this control is implemented). Obviously, this kind of limit resulted in some of the list members never receiving any mail and everyone being cut-out if more than one message was sent during the metering period. Unfortunately, even the ISPs without the metering limit seem to have problems handling the large volume burst created when a message is sent to a list exceeding 80-100 members. I have been told that some less full featured mailing list applications have metering capabilities included in them but I would prefer to stick with Mailman. Obviously, solutions like breaking up my lists into smaller lists would only help in a limited number of instances. I need a better solution, especially for my lists that are interactive (Discussion). Can anyone offer any insight or suggestions? Who else is having this problem? - JimF James T. Fortney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] images in a feedback page
Hi Guys i'm creating a php contact page i have a submit image and a clear image but don't seam to work here the code input type=image src=images/submit.jpg input type=image src=images/submit.jpg both of the images keep going to http://www.stormsearchers.com/sendeail.php the clear image dose not clear the contact page Mike _ Overpaid or Underpaid? Check our comprehensive Salary Centre http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fcontent%2Emycareer%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fsalary%2Dcentre%3Fs%5Fcid%3D595810_t=766724125_r=Hotmail_Email_Tagline_MyCareer_Oct07_m=EXT -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Allowing posting to list A by members of list B?
We sometimes have related but distinct mailing lists, e.g. one for coaches and one for referees in the same league. Both lists are moderated. We'd like to turn on the flag to allow postings (still moderated) only by members of the list. For the usual reason: SPAMmers are overwhelming the volunteer list moderators. At the same time, we'd like to allow member of the related list still to be able to post (postings still to be moderated). That is, we'd like the members of list A to be allowed to post to list B, without registering as members of list B. We could do this by, in effect, maintaining two copies of each mailing list: one is the actual mailing list A, and the other is in the 'allowed posters' section of the list B. (And vice-versa). This is rather painful to administer, of course. (Assuming both the mailing list memberships and the allowed posters lists are stored in files, one could create a script and cron job to periodically sync/merge the membership of list A into the allowed posters of list B. Unfortunately, we do not have that kind of shell access to the our list server.) Any hints on how one might best accomplish this? Thanks. Beau -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Allowing posting to list A by members of list B?
Thanks for the quick response. -- At the same time, we'd like to allow member of the related list -- still to be able to post (postings still to be moderated). That -- is, we'd like the members of list A to be allowed to post to -- list B, without registering as members of list B. -- -- There is a patch at -- http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1220144group_id=103atid=300103 -- which is included in the Mailman 2.1.10 base. This enables putting -- list B in one of list A's *_these_nonmembers via the syntax @listb. -- -- With Mailman 2.1.10 or with the patch in prior versions, you can put -- @listb in lista's hold_these_nonmembers to accomplish what you want. Perfect! -- Any hints on how one might best accomplish this? -- -- It's as simple as installing the patch or upgrading to Mailman 2.1.10 -- (currently in beta with a release candidate due soon). All you need to -- do is convince your provider to do it.wink I'll take a run at that. Even if we don't get quick satisfaction, it's good to know that there is relief on the horizon. Thanks again. Beau -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Need some fortware to run website
Hi guys I need a software to some files like IFF for my website Eg. zI downloading some files from JCU and Bom the one from Bom i'm looking at some software i need to be in a General access to a file through FTP can only be gained if the creator of the file has made it publicly accessible on a computer archive. This will accept the word anonymous as logon and your e-mail address as a password or type guest if you don't have e-mail address. As an anonymous user you can do the following: If you're in telnet, type ftp ftp2.bom.gov.au ( or see Starting FTP ) When prompted for user-id, enter anonymous. When prompted for the password, enter your e-mail address ( or guest ) Type ls Use an ftp command to download the required information. Type quit to finish FTP session. first of all my computer is a window home basic 64 bit Mike _ What are you waiting for? Join Lavalife FREE http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D30288_t=764581033_r=email_taglines_Join_free_OCT07_m=EXT -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] changing image script on the mailing list
Hi cause i have setup the mailing list http://stormsearchers.com/mailman/listinfo/stormsearcher_stormsearchers.com i want to cahnge the image scrip to suit my website can it be done and how could i do that Mike _ Your Future Starts Here. Dream it? Then be it! Find it at www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau%2F%3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Ahet%3Ask%3Anine%3A0%3Ahot%3Atext_t=764565661_r=OCT07_endtext_Future_m=EXT -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] installing Mailman
Dear Support Group I'm trying 2 setup mailman on my WEBSITE http://www.stormsearchers.com/overveiw/overveiw.html but i don't no python programming.could someone help us out here... Regards Michael Wright _ It's simple! Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641_t=762955845_r=tig_OCT07_m=EXT -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Spamassasin and Mailman
A quick question on how to implement SpamAssasin with Mailman. How? :} -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Problem with archives and escaping of From
Running mailman 2.1.9-7 on Debian 4.0. The archive for one of my lists played up today and two extra entries appeared containing only the tail end of a seperate post. It turns out that the archive software got confused when it came across a line in the body that started From and had been properly escaped to From in the mbox file. It treated that as the start of the e-mail. Deleting the appears to unconfused the archive software and the messages appeared as they should. Am I getting my head in a twist, shouldn't the behavior have been the other way around? Thanks, James -- http://www.freecharity.org.uk/ - Free IT services for charities http://www.freecharity.org.uk/wiki/ - The VCSWiki -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] TypeError: decoding Unicode is not supported
Mark Sapiro wrote: If you just move digest.mbox aside and don't replace it, you'll lose a digest. even if you do fix and replace it, you may wind up with and 'out of sequence' digest. Thanks, that did the trick. I deleted the digest as it serves no purpose to the users of this list. Thank you once again, James -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] TypeError: decoding Unicode is not supported
mailman 2.1.5-8sarge5 running on Debian 4.0. It's actually a custom
package I built myself with only minor changes for my mail environment.
It's an odd one... A search of Google and the archives shows that it's
been discussed before but with no definitive answer. One user is having
problems posting to a list. Mailman's error log shows the following
error, the e-mail which caused the problem is also supplied below.
Any idea what's causing this problem?
Thanks,
James
May 18 09:50:13 2007 (29323) Uncaught runner exception: decoding Unicode
is not supported
May 18 09:50:13 2007 (29323) Traceback (most recent call last):
File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 111, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 167, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 130, in
_dispose
more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 153, in
_dopipeline
sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 91, in process
send_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 132, in
send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 306, in
send_i18n_digests
msg = scrubber(mlist, msg)
File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py, line 318, in process
partcharset = part.get_content_charset()
File email/Message.py, line 800, in get_content_charset
TypeError: decoding Unicode is not supported
May 18 09:50:13 2007 (29323) SHUNTING:
1179478212.3616531+d13a31b783297c1f32c72ac08da016a012618db4
Here's the e-mail that caused the error.
Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivery-date: Fri, 18 May 2007 09:50:11 +0100
Received: from web25413.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.176.231])
by freecharity.org.uk with smtp (Exim 4.63)
(envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
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X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/651.23.1 YahooMailWebService/0.7.41.14
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 08:50:08 + (GMT)
From: Stefan Laros [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Symphony
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary=0-707090045-1179478208=:17471
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Spam-Score: 1.9 (+)
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0
tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no
version=_VERSION
--0-707090045-1179478208=:17471
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ascii
All,
Further to my earlier e-mails: we will only be rehearsing the symphony
this Sunday!
See you then there.
Stefan
--0-707090045-1179478208=:17471
Content-Type: text/html; charset=ascii
htmlheadstyle type=text/css!-- DIV {margin:0px;}
--/style/headbodydiv style=font-family:arial, helvetica,
sans-serif;font-size:10ptDIV/DIV
DIV
DIV style=FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif
DIV/DIV
DIVAll,/DIV
DIVnbsp;/DIV
DIVFurther to my earlier e-mails: we will only be rehearsing the
symphony thisnbsp;Sunday!BR/DIV
DIVSee you then amp; there./DIV
DIVnbsp;/DIV
DIVStefan/DIV
DIVnbsp;/DIV
DIVnbsp;/DIV/DIV/DIV/div/body/html
--0-707090045-1179478208=:17471--
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Looking for professional help
Why does there need to be a patch to mailman? Could you just setup htdig and have it index the pipermail web pages? James Dinkel Todd Zullinger wrote: Brian Carpenter wrote: My installation of mailman is on a Linux box running cPanel/WHM. The os is CentOS 4.4. It is not an apple machine. It seems to me that the patch is looking for a Defaults.py.in file, which I don't have. I could be wrong however in interpreting the error message. I don't know much about the ht:dig patch, but it does appear from a cursory reading of it's docs[1] that it is meant to be applied to a Mailman *source* tree, not to an already installed Mailman. You may be able to force this to apply to the cPanel version of mailman, but you'd face an uphill battle I'm sure. See FAQ 6.11[2] regarding cPanel. There is a source dir on cPanel, the last time I looked. But it differs in numerous ways from the official Mailman install. (Someone out there may be interested in doing this work for pay, though I'm not one of them. My experience with cPanel is intentionally limited. I found it incredibly annoying to have to track down change after change that they'd made to the various parts of the system.) [1] http://www.openinfo.co.uk/mm/patches/444884/install.html [2] http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq06.011.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jdinkel4%40cox.net Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] detecting administrivia requests in bounces
For some reason, my users like to send emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I guess maybe because that is what is in the From: address on emails they recieve. Anyway, they will be emails with a single request in them like help or subscribe but they dome to me because the bounce filter couldn't filter them out. Is there anyway to have these checked for Administrivia? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Looking for professional help
Why not just use mailman's built in pipermail archiver? With pipermail built into mailman, archiving is set on a list by list basis. James Dinkel Brian Carpenter wrote: Dear List: I am looking to hire someone experience with mailman to help me setup searchable archives for my clients. My idea at this moment is to use mhonarc and htdig but I am open to suggestions. Not all of my clients require this so I would need to set this up on a list by list basis. I am looking to hire for installation services, configuration, and instruction on how to setup/use the archiving/search software on a list by list basis. I look forward to your replies. Thank you. Kind regards, Brian Carpenter -- EMWD - Executive Officer -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jdinkel4%40cox.net Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman is not scrubbing attachments in thearchives
Mark Sapiro wrote: James Dinkel wrote: For some reason our archive web pages try to display attachments inline instead of displaying a link to download the attachment. If I understand correctly, this process is called scrubbing. From what I've read the default behavior is to scrub attachments in the archives, but it is not on mine. This is pretty much a fresh, standard mailman (version 2.1.5-9ubuntu4.1) install on Ubuntu Dapper. Mailman doesn't scrub all attachments. It scrubs most, but not those with type text/plain and a specified character set. What is the MIME Content-Type: header of the attachments that aren't scrubbed? Also note that uuencoded data in a text/plain part is not an attachment, even though some MUAs treat it as one, and it won't be scrubbed. They have all been pdf files. Will it not scrub pdf files? I don't exactly know what the MIME Content-Type: is. James -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] my email to a list - getting it back!
I know this is probably a VERY easy option for most of you, but for the life of me, I cant find it. I have a list that i have started and its working very well. However the poster does not receive his own message, even though he is part of the list. I can setup an autorepond telling him/her that it was recieved and sent out, but it would be more straight forward to have the original message just come back as part of the list. I know the option is there...just need to find out where. Thanks! -- --- James D. LaintoN -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Unable to access Mailman cgi's via Web Server
I have a major problems executing mailman cgi's via web server. I am getting very desperate right now since I don't see a solution to this problem. Is there a ways to make this work and what should I do? --- When accessing: http://domain.com/mailman/admin suexec.log: [2006-12-17 22:26:17]: uid: (500/domain) gid: (500/500) cmd: admin [2006-12-17 22:26:17]: command not in docroot (/usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/admin) chown /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root mailman 18215 2006-10-13 20:07 admin virtual host config: VirtualHost *:* SuexecUserGroup domain domain ServerName domain.com ServerAlias www.domain.com DocumentRoot /home/domain/public_html ErrorLog /home/domain/logs/error_log CustomLog /home/domain/logs/access_log combined ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ Alias /mailmanicons/ /usr/lib/mailman/icons/ Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/ Directory /home/domain/public_html Options ExecCGI FollowSymLinks Indexes AllowOverride All Allow from all /Directory Directory /home/domain/cgi-bin Options ExecCGI FollowSymLinks Indexes AddHandler cgi-script .pl AllowOverride all Allow from all /Directory Directory /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin Options ExecCGI FollowSymLinks Indexes order allow,deny allow from all /Directory Directory /usr/lib/mailman/icons order allow,deny allow from all /Directory Directory /var/lib/mailman/archives/ Options +FollowSymLinks order allow,deny allow from all /Directory /VirtualHost I also found good description to this problem: http://www.murrayc.com/blog/permalink/2005/04/28/suse-versus-mailman/ Configuration: SuSE 9.3 Mailman Version: 2.1.5-5.3 Installed: 2.1.5-5.12 Thank You James -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Can I somehow copy list settings to another list?
I've setup a mailing list 1 just the way I like it. Can I somehow copy these settings for all new lists that I create? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] rejecting spam disables local subscribers on remote lists
We recently implemented a policy such that any incoming message that scores higher than 10 with SpamAssassin is rejected at our MX servers with: 550 5.7.0 message not delivered due to suspect content We've discovered that this policy has interaction problems with recipients at our site who are subscribed to external mailing lists. Here's what happens: 1. Someone at our site is subscribed to a random Mailman mailing list on the Internet. 2. The owners of the mailing list have made little to no attempt to filter spam. As a result, the mailing list passes on spam to subscribers at our site. 3. We detect the spam that Mailman attempts to relay to our subscribers and reject it per above. 4. Mailman, upon receiving the bounces, assumes that the messages bounced because the recipient addresses are no longer valid, and disables and/or removes them. 5. Our users, upon being given the brush-off by Mailman at the remote site, blame us. The fundamental problem is that the owners of the mailing list, by not taking steps to protect their list from spam, are essentially operating an opt-in spam amplification and relaying system. But given that we have no control over how these individuals [mis]manage their mailing lists, we are pondering how to best address this issue on our end. I just looked at Mailman/Bouncers/DSN.py, to see if Mailman was looking at the Status field of the message/delivery-status part, but alas, Mailman only pays attention to the Action field. Therefore, no matter what we return as the DSN code, Mailman will assume that any permanent failure occurred because the recipient address was invalid. One possibility would be to not reject incoming messages if they appear to be from Mailman. (We use David Skoll's excellent MIMEDefang package, so we easily have this capability.) But spammers are a devious and clever lot; I have no doubts that they'd quickly realize that they could bypass our spam blocking simply by adding a few Mailman headers to their messages. Another possibility would be to allow our recipients to opt out of the spam rejecting. But this is a last-ditch option. Have others encountered this situation? If so, how did you deal with it? Thanks, James -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] List does not show on the overview page
I migrated mailman to a new box and everything went fine except one list does not show on the overview page. I ran withlist -l -r fix_url on the list, as I did with the others, but it still does not show on the overview of all lists pages. I am running mailman-2.1.5.1-34.rhel4.3 the list has a dir at /var/lib/mailman/lists. If I go directly to the lists url, the admin interface is there. Any suggestions ? -- James H. Edwards Network Systems Administrator Judicial Information Division [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] List does not show on the overview page
On 7/14/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you checked that Privacy options...-Subscription rules-advertised is set to Yes? That was it. Thanks. -- James H. Edwards Network Systems Administrator Judicial Information Division [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving mailman to a new box
On 7/7/06, Ricardo Scachetti Pereira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James, Mark Sapiro posted a very useful set of instructions about moving mailman lists around. The message is at: Thanks, everything went well. james -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Moving mailman to a new box
I am moving our mailman server to a new box. On the old box I was running mailman-2.1.5.32.FC3 and on the new box mailman-2.1.5.1-34rhel4.3. What dirs and files do I need to copy over from the old to the new box to make mailman work ? james -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender field
On 2006-04-27 at 22:46-05 Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:40 AM -0500 2006-04-27, Neal Groothuis wrote: Again from RFC 2822 3.6.2, the Sender: header should contain the address of the agent responsible for transmitting the message, meaning that a person who sends mail to the address in that header should expect to reach said agent, not suggest to Mailman that a message bounced. Right. Mailman is the agent responsible for transmitting the message, and this needs to be reflected. This is not correct. Quoting RFC2822 section 3.6.2: 3.6.2. Originator fields The originator fields indicate the mailbox(es) of the source of the message. The From: field specifies the author(s) of the message, that is, the mailbox(es) of the person(s) or system(s) responsible for the writing of the message. The Sender: field specifies the mailbox of the agent responsible for the actual transmission of the message. For example, if a secretary were to send a message for another person, the mailbox of the secretary would appear in the Sender: field and the mailbox of the actual author would appear in the From: field. The Sender header should be employed by the orignator of the message, and only the originator. Mailman is not the originator of a message sent to a list; it is merely a relay agent. I will grant that the phrasing of the RFC is suboptimal here--it uses transmission when a better word choice would have been submission. But the immediately proceeding example (of a secretary sending mail on behalf of another person) clarifies the intent beyond any claim of ambiguity. [Outlook's behavior] is an MUA problem. See FAQ 2.3. No, it's not. As much as it pains me to say it, Outlook's behavior matches perfectly the intent of the RFC. It is Mailman's behavior of rewriting the Sender header that is the problem. However, we want to make sure to capture any potential messages that may be routed to the Sender: field and have them automatically processed through the part of the system that is designed to do that sort of thing. Mailman's processing behavior is to treat a reply to the Sender as a bounce. This is incorrect behavior, because many mail clients will include address of the Sender header in a reply-to-all function, causing Mailman to treat the reply as a bounce. So, in summary, the disadvantages of Mailman's behavior of rewriting the Sender header is that doing so is not in the intended spirit of RFC2822, causes subscription grief, and breaks Outlook. The advantage is that it helps Mailman detect bounces from a slim minority of brain-dead MTAs that send bounces to the Sender header. The problem is that you said you wanted to implement an option to allow people to turn it off, not to rip this feature completely out of the system. I would argue that the best course of action is to excise Sender header rewriting entirely and provide no option to turn it on. (Mailman has way too many options already.) If, however, an option is created to control the behavior, it should definitely default to OFF (no Sender header rewriting), not on. -- James Ralston, Information Technology Software Engineering Institute Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh, PA, USA -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Problems Installing from SVN
I'm looking to tweak the source of my mailman installation a little so decided to install from source onto my Debian system using the subversion repository. This is the first time I've installed mailman from source, usually I just rely upon the Debian packages. Everything installed without a problem, so good so far. But when I go to view the webpages I get the following error in my browser. ** Bug in Mailman version 2.2.0a0 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. ** If I try and start mailman's qrunner I get the following errors. ** cressida:/usr/local/mailman# ./scripts/mailman start Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl, line 126, in ? loginit.initialize() File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/loginit.py, line 94, in initialize handler = ReopenableFileHandler(os.path.join(mm_cfg.LOG_DIR, logger)) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/loginit.py, line 43, in __init__ logging.FileHandler.__init__(self, filename, mode, encoding) TypeError: __init__() takes at most 3 arguments (4 given) ** Any ideas? I'm using Python 2.3.5. Thanks, James -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] problems with .pck files
What happens if you go to the admin page for the list? Does that seem OK or what? If dumpdb is telling the truth, the list's admin pages should at most show default settings and no members. What are the sizes of config.pck and config.pck.last? Yep. If you go to the list's admin pages and everything looks totally OK including the membership, make some innocuous change in settings and then look at bin/dumpdb of the config.pck again. It should display all the list attributes, membership, member options, etc. Unless everything looks good including gate_news being OK, I'd restore the config.pck only from the backup. Restore is going well, too bad that partition is almost a terabyte as it took forever to blow out. Mark, thanks again for your help in this. -- James H. Edwards Network Systems Administrator Judicial Information Division [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] problems with .pck files
After my server panicked and rebooted itself, when this cron runs: /usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_new I get this error message: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 284, in ? main() File /usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 264, in main process_lists(lock) File /usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 199, in process_lists mlist = MailList.MailList(listname, lock=0) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 128, in __init__ self.Load() File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 608, in Load raise Errors.MMCorruptListDatabaseError, e Mailman.Errors.MMCorruptListDatabaseError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/lib/mailman/lists/jid/config.db.last' The config files exist for this list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] init.d]# cd /var/lib/mailman/lists/jid/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] jid]# ls config.pck config.pck.last pending.pck request.pck From what I read on the internet about this issue, this lists config files are now hosed and I should replace them from the last known good backup. Is this correct ? james -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] problems with .pck files
Mark,
Thanks for your help. Answers inline.
Is it only gate_news that gets this error? Are there errors like this
in the error log from other processes. What happens if you go to the
web listinfo overview for example. Does it get the same error?
Yep only for one list.
If everything that accesses the list gets this, then I hope you have a
recent backup. If you don't, try 'bin/dumpdb' on both the config.pck
and config.pck.last to see if you can at least get up to date info in
text form.
A level 0 backup raan last night, so I can get the files from there.
Is there anything of use here:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jid]# /usr/lib/mailman/bin/dumpdb -p config.pck.last
[- start pickle file -]
[- end pickle file -]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jid]# /usr/lib/mailman/bin/dumpdb -p config.pck
[- start pickle file -]
[- end pickle file -]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jid]# ls
config.pck config.pck.last pending.pck request.pck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jid]# /usr/lib/mailman/bin/dumpdb -p pending.pck
[- start pickle file -]
- start object 1 -
{ 'c3e20eb8105c74b4b1356d965dd88523103cf608': ('H', 32),
'e01d88cc37e6f6bf1d546b28b38c413125beb229': ('H', 33),
'evictions': { 'c3e20eb8105c74b4b1356d965dd88523103cf608':
1143215294.351737,
'e01d88cc37e6f6bf1d546b28b38c413125beb229':
1143242143.3469989},
'version': 2}
[- end pickle file -]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jid]# /usr/lib/mailman/bin/dumpdb -p request.pck
[- start pickle file -]
- start object 1 -
{ 33: ( 1,
( 1142982943.3346181,
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
'',
'Post by non-member to a members-only list',
'heldmsg-jid-33.pck',
{ '_parsemsg': True,
'lang': 'en',
'listname': 'jid',
'pipeline': [ 'Hold',
'MimeDel',
'Emergency',
'Tagger',
'CalcRecips',
'AvoidDuplicates',
'Cleanse',
'CookHeaders',
'ToDigest',
'ToArchive',
'ToUsenet',
'AfterDelivery',
'Acknowledge',
'ToOutgoing'],
'received_time': 1142982942.707638,
'rejection_notice': 'Non-members are not allowed to post
messages to this list.',
'tolist': 1,
'version': 3})),
'version': (0, 1)}
[- end pickle file -]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jid]#
James
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Post Requires Approval
bethelweb wrote: I created a list. I sent this email to the list and I get the email below. I am the moderator, but I don't recall setting a password and the link that came with the email below requires a password. Membership Management - Membership list. Find yourself in the membership list and flip the moderation tick box for yourself. James -- http://www.freecharity.org.uk/ - Free hosting for charities http://jamesd.ukgeeks.co.uk/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
