Re: [Mailman-Users] archiving
Check your cron to make sure it is still running. Other than that, you will need to include more information: Version of Mailman that you are running, How it was installed (via rpm, apt-get, source, provided by host), the MTA that you are using, and the Operating System that your host is running. Good luck - Jon Carnes On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 06:06, webulous wrote: > I had an archive up and running and doing fine. I did not change anything to > the setting but messages are being send but not archived. Anyone have a hint > as to what the problem might be? > > Also does anyone know if it possible to have the number of messages in a > thread mentioned in the archive. > > thanks, > > Jeroen > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman won't send out mail
On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 11:00, Justin Rush wrote:
> While trying to do /sbin/service mailman start ... I get the following
> error.
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "/var/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 524, in ?
> main()
> File "/var/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 319, in main
> check_privs()
> File "/var/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 274, in check_privs
> gid = grp.getgrnam(mm_cfg.MAILMAN_GROUP)[2]
> KeyError: getgrnam(): name not found
>
> I tried doing a rpm -U on the python devel package, but the error still
> persists.
>
Put the following in your /var/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py file:
MAILMAN_USER = 'mailman'
MAILMAN_GROUP = 'mailman'
Also you will need to put in your hosts real domain name:
#DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'porky.devel.redhat.com'
#DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'porky.devel.redhat.com'
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'list.anncons.org'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'list.anncons.org'
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/'
Lord knows what the Mailman packager for RedHat was smoking the day he
did this RPM...
Good luck - Jon Carnes
> On 31 Jul 2003, Jon Carnes wrote:
>
> > First idea is to check to check out the FAQ, but the most common problem
> > here is that you didn't: service mailman start
> >
> > Good Luck
> >
> > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
> >
> > On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 10:17, Justin Rush wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > I am trying to get mailman working on my new redhat 9 servers and
> > > mailman refuses to send out mail. I tried copying my mailman directory
> > > from the working server (running redhat 7.3), but that didn't work. I
> > > also tried installing the newest rpm 2.1-8. I see in the maillog that it
> > > does recieve the mail:
> > >
> > > Jul 31 09:12:36 hundo sendmail[20921]: h6VECahH020921:
> > > from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=866, class=0, nrcpts=1,
> > > msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=mail.scout.wisc.edu [144.92.170.199]
> > > Jul 31 09:12:36 hundo sendmail[20922]: h6VECahH020921:
> > > to="|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post test",
> > > ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (8/0), delay=00:00:00,
> > > xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=31090, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
> > >
> > > However, nothing follows after that line.
> > > Sendmail will work just fine if I telnet to it and send mail, so mailman
> > > must be the problem.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any ideas?
> >
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman won't send out mail
First idea is to check to check out the FAQ, but the most common problem here is that you didn't: service mailman start Good Luck Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 10:17, Justin Rush wrote: > Hi, > I am trying to get mailman working on my new redhat 9 servers and > mailman refuses to send out mail. I tried copying my mailman directory > from the working server (running redhat 7.3), but that didn't work. I > also tried installing the newest rpm 2.1-8. I see in the maillog that it > does recieve the mail: > > Jul 31 09:12:36 hundo sendmail[20921]: h6VECahH020921: > from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=866, class=0, nrcpts=1, > msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=mail.scout.wisc.edu [144.92.170.199] > Jul 31 09:12:36 hundo sendmail[20922]: h6VECahH020921: > to="|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post test", > ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (8/0), delay=00:00:00, > xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=31090, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent > > However, nothing follows after that line. > Sendmail will work just fine if I telnet to it and send mail, so mailman > must be the problem. > > Does anyone have any ideas? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Email addresses in archive
On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 09:56, CARTER Anthony wrote: > Is there a way that I can make peoples email addresses in the archive > become: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > rather than: > > xxx.yyy at server.com (with a link to the mailman listinfo page). > > Thanks, > > Anthony > Add this to your ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py file and then change the value from 1 to 0. # Pipermail archives contain the raw email addresses of the # posting authors. Some view this as a goldmine for spam # harvesters. Set this to true to moderately obscure email # addresses, but note that this breaks mailto: URLs # in the archives too. ARCHIVER_OBSCURES_EMAILADDRS = 1 Hope this helps - Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Analysis of reasons for bounce responses
On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 06:08, Richard Barrett wrote: > This is not my problem but one soemone approached me about off list. > I'll summarise their situation and I would appreciate any thoughts, > comments, sanity checking on my analysis. > > Situation: > > 1. List admin's domain is hosted by a server run by a hosting company. > > 2. The server is (probably) running Linux > > 3. Mailman 2.1.2 is provided on the server with, I believe, CPanel > > 4. The server's MTA appears to be Exim 4.20 handling both incoming and > outgoing messages to/from Mailman > > 5. Mailman list's basically work OK much of the time > > 6. Periodically messages out from Mailman are being bounced en masse > leading to the subscriber accounts being disabled > > 7. The bounce response attached to the bounce action notice produced by > Mailman when subscribers are disabled in these circumstances is from > the server local MTA. The MTA lists what appears to be all the > addresses to which the outgoing message was sent with a note against > each saying "unrouteable mail domain maildomain.tld". The bounce > response asserts that this is a permanent failure. The messages are > each being sent to a number of different mail domains not just a single > one > > 8. The list admin with the problem has no access to either the Mailman > or MTA logs > > 9. The server administrator is supposedly claiming that these bounces > are a result of "a bug in Mailman for which no patch is available" > > My analysis is: > > 1. The problem is not obviously due to any bug in Mailman > > 2. The problem is more likely due to an IP routing problem which > periodically afflicts the server and its ability to reach the MTAs for > the mail domains addressed by the outgoing messages > > 3. The MTA is accepting the outgoing messages from Mailman and then > finding it has problems of its own in delivering mail which are > unrelated to Mailman as the origin of the messages > > But I have to concede I know nothing about Exim 4.20. I know even less > about CPanel. > > Any thoughts or anatomically feasible suggestions welcome. > I have seen this behavior a few times and in each case it was resource problem on the server. They need to check on the memory of the box and how much is being used during the bounces. I'm afraid it is only something that the sysadmin can really do. I have also seen this problem when the /var directory was made too small. Could this be a problem with the users services being chrooted and them running out of quota space while processing large messages? Good Luck - Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sendmail Aliases Setup
On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 21:47, Wendall Cada wrote: > Ok, I figured out the parameters. Is there a utility that will configure my > aliases file for my users when setting up lists? If not, I'll surely have to > use another list manager...it pretty much makes it so i have to babysit my > site users and i'd rather not do that. I was told that this is a very mature > product by many others, if so, are there third party script resources > available for this type of functionality? Should I put in an RFE for > this?...I can't really believe that everyone is doing this manually for every > list on their server. > > TIA > > Wendall Well, in my Mailman 2.1 installs, the aliases are created automatically either via the web or from my newlist command: newlist -o /var/mailman/data/aliases I run Postfix as the MTA and have the integration turned on in ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py. The steps for integrating Mailman with Postfix are very clearly laid out in the README.POSTFIX file that comes with Mailman. Good Luck - Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Send messages to thousands of users
On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 12:26, José Carlos Rebola Gomes wrote:
> How can i send a message to a list with 10 users using a bulk script on
> mailman ?
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Jose, I would answer this question, but unfortunately I'm not the "named
recipient", and according to your sig file, I can't.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman mailinglists and 'plussed' E-mail
On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 11:16, Wim Peeters wrote: > Hello All, > > People in our company love to send E-mail using the plussed address > (procmail feature as delivery agent for sendmail) > > E.g. E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], end > up in '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Mailmain, asks for approval of each of these messages. > > With the message > Reason: Message has implicit destination > > Any idea how to allow this? > > Best Regards > > Wim Look in the web-admin for your list. You will see that their are some anti-spam settings. One of them is restricts postings to only allow messages where your list name is in the To or CC field; you can change the setting on this and then your list will allow that to pass. Alternately, you can edit one of the fields on that same page which simply adds [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a valid name for originating messages to your list. Good Luck - Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Question
On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 16:47, Steven Poulakos wrote: > Hi, > > I have posted to the [LO] [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list about the > question below two times (about 1 month ago and again last Friday) and > hadn't received a response. I'm getting in a time crunch to find a > solution. So, if you could please provide me with any advice, I would > really appreciate it. > > Here's the question: > > I would like to allow a listowner to subscribe/unsubscribe users by > sending emails to Mailman. Those emails would come from the list > owner's email address and contain a password if needed. I would then > like to do the following actions: > > 1. Subscribe (not invite) the user > 2. Not send a welcome message > > 3. Unsubscribe the user > I think the best way to do this is write a script that is attached to a special email address for the list. -admin_unsub: "|/var/local/mm/hack/admin_unsub " The email address to access the script is -admin_unsub. In this case the name of the script would be admin_unsub. The script is stored in the directory /var/local/mm/hack/.. The first command line input to the script is the list's name. The list admin sends an email to the address -admin_unsub with the list password (or simply a general password for using the app) and the email address to be unsubscribed. This information is dumped to your script, then your script runs the Mailman commands to add a user (without a welcome message) to your bye-bye list, then it also runs the commands to unsubscribe the user from their current list. I've been doing scripts like that for years - they are a piece of cake to write. These days, I find it easier to write the scripts as a cgi, it takes just a tiny bit more of formating to get done, but it's easier for the list admins (and they sort of expect that sort of thing from Mailman). There are some tricks that make this easier, using sudo is one of them. One of my old favorites, is to copy the bash executable to a secure location (only reachable via your script) and then SetGID for it to run as Mailman, then have your scripts use that as the shell. Have fun! Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] IETF's recommendations on email Autoresponses
The IETF just issued the following draft: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-moore-auto-email-response-01.txt "Recommendations for Automatic Responses to Electronic Mail" The recommendations are very sane, and hopefully this document can be adopted as an RFC soon. Please comment on it and help i on its way to an RFC. Jon Carnes == oh i'm just a memo an internet memo... but one day i hope to be an RFC oh i hope it can be that one day i am an RFC!!! -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Am I doing something wrong?
Christine, I don't see where you ever responded to Richard Barret who kindly answered your question with a most pertinent response (you have look in the MTA logs to see what is really going on). If you did respond, my apologies. Jon Carnes On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 08:48, Christine De La Rosa wrote: > Am I missing some ettiquette for this list? I have sent two questions > to the list with no responses. I am wondering if they have never been > seen before therefore no one has the answer, or if they are so simple > they seem too stupid to answer. I am having so many problems with the > new mailman upgrade, I really need help. If I am on the wrong list can > someone point me to the right area to ask for help? > > Thanks > Chris > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help needed!
On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 05:09, Simon Maddox wrote: > I have just installed Mailman on our mail server, but get the following > when I try to send a mail to it. The path given in the error message is > the correct path to the mailman file. I have read the note about > sendmail and have made sure the mailman link is in the smrsh folder. I > have also opened the permissions on all the mailman files to 777 until > its working, but still no joy. Any ideas? > > Simon Maddox > > -Original Message- > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 26 July 2003 10:03 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details > > The original message was received at Sat, 26 Jul 2003 10:03:28 +0100 > from public1-reig1-6-cust138.hers.broadband.ntl.com [80.3.48.138] > >- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - > "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman" > (reason: 4) > (expanded from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > >- Transcript of session follows - > No such file or directory > 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 4 > > __ I have seen this kind of problem when Sendmail was running in a Chroot... If that is not your problem then you should become the sendmail user (su mail) and see if you can access the mailman app. Good Luck - Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with user rights
On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 09:59, Christian Schoepplein wrote: > Hello! > > After adding some virtual hosts to mm_cfg.py and restartting mailman, I > get the following problems with the user rights for mailman and postfix: > > --- > This is the Postfix program at host www.as-2.de. > > I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned > below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. > > For further assistance, please send mail to > > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > delete your own text from the message returned below. > > The Postfix program > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Command died with status 2: > "/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post blindzeln-mod". Command output: Group > mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as > group "nogroup", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as > group "mailman". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group > "nogroup", or re-run configure, providing the command line option > `--with-mail-gid=mailman'. > --- Hmmm, Check the ownership of the alias file (the where the above alias is stored). Try setting the files group ownership to "nogroup"... > I ran check_perms but no problems where shown..., before adding the > virtual hosts everything worked fine. > > what can I do, to solve this problem? I know that I could reconfigure > and reinstall mailman, but what about the old lists an configurations? > Will they be deleted after a new installation? How shuld I reinstall > mailman to have the right userrights? > If you re-install from source, then the old lists will be fine (not deleted) and your configurations (stored in mm_cfg.py) will be fine as well. One of the first steps (after expanding the tar ball containing all the source code) to installing from source is to run the command: ./configure In your case you would include the switch: ./configure --with-mail-gid=mailman But really, I don't think you need to re-install, just adjust some rights. Good Luck, Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman performance / sends per hour
On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 06:03, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 7:43 PM -0400 2003/07/25, Jon Carnes wrote: > > > Actually Brad, it looks like your knowledge of Sendmail is rather dated. > > Sendmail has been doing this since 2001. > > > >http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/doc8.12/RELEASE_NOTES Sigh... You would think that somebody who had been mucking about with sendmail since ~1991, and whose name comes up in the full RELEASE_NOTES four times, plus was the sendmail FAQ maintainer from ~1995 to ~1997, would be able to read release notes from Sendmail... Here is the section from the Release Notes that is pertinent to our "pissing contest": Add parallel queue runner code. Allows multiple queue runners per work group (one or more queues in a multi-queue environment collected together) to process the same work list at the same time. And yes this is an old reference. I said, that Sendmail had been doing this since 2001 - not advocating that folks use an old version of Sendmail. Though if anyone else is reading these messages, I'm sure they understood that. > > > For larger lists and Mailman, I have found that nothing beats using a > > RAM disk and accessing the list database files via the mounted RAM disk. > > The speed increase can be 100x faster. > > If you're going to be a professional spammer, then I would > suggest using the professional spammer tools. > > Otherwise, if you're going to run a mailing list for normal > people, then I would suggest that you pay attention to sections 5.3.3 > and 5.3.4 of RFC 1123 "Internet Host Requirements", which is also > part of STD0003: Once again, Brad, you show that you have either very poor reading skills or simply a poor understanding of mailsystems, and Mailman in particular. Re-read my statement above and maybe look into the old archives of this list. You will discover that due to Mailman's current design (well really a limitation of Python) large lists can be very slow to maintain and process. the solution is to move the MAILMAN (not sendmail you oaf!) list databases into a RAM drive. And (duh!) a battery backed up RAM drive sure would be best. Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman performance / sends per hour
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 17:36, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 5:01 PM -0400 2003/07/25, Jon Carnes wrote: > > > Right! Given decent equipment the MTA is the primary worry. For best > > performance you really want to use an optimized MTA like Postfix. > > Postfix shuffles slow responding mail sites to the end of the queue so > > that they don't hold up the outflow of mail. The increase in efficiency > > this gives you is tremendous and far outweighs any other gains. > > Actually, what postfix does is handle multiple copies of the > message being transmitted to separate domains in parallel. This > helps ensure that fast sites further down the list don't get hung up > by slower sites that come earlier. However, there is a limit to this > parallelism. Mailman could help this process by tracking the average > delivery time per recipient, and then sorting the recipient list when > handing the messages to postfix -- fastest first, slowest last. > Actually Brad, it looks like your knowledge of Sendmail is rather dated. Sendmail has been doing this since 2001. http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/doc8.12/RELEASE_NOTES Postfix has some very interesting features that make it much better to use than Sendmail, but the one that sets it most apart in added efficiency is its default queueing structure. I do agree with you though, that if the MTA (or Mailman) could periodically sweep the MTA delivery logs and sort the domains from fastest to slowest, there would be an increase in efficiency. I regularly run MTA reports that give me these stats and there are easy to see regularities in the list (the slow staying slow, the fast always finishing near the top). > You could further tune this process by making the initial > delivery attempt time out very quickly (like, five seconds instead of > the typical two minutes), and then have "reaper" processes set to > retry delivery with a more normal timeout. But this is an MTA tuning > process, and would differ depending on which MTA you use. > This is the Timeout.iconnect feature (if you use M4 to setup Sendmail). > Overall, postfix is pretty well optimized for use with mailing > lists, but the architecture does guarantee a certain minimum amount > of overhead that cannot be escaped. With some work, you can create a > sendmail configuration that will avoid even this level of overhead, > and can be considerably faster. But it does take more work to get > there, whereas postfix will do a pretty good job out-of-the-box. > > > The next best thing you can do is use a nice fast LVD disk subsystem > > (maybe even a RAID) for your /var volume. MTA's follow a specification > > that ensures the delivery of mail, even if the server goes down. This > > means that each and every transaction is written somewhere on disk. So > > moving mail around takes a very large number of read and writes! We say > > that mail servers are disk I/O bound. > > Increasing filesystem performance is a big issue. The best > choice here is with a *BSD operating system and "softupdates", > because that will avoid writing files to disk if they are created and > then deleted very quickly (they're safely queued in memory before > being written to disk, and the creat() is removed if the file is > unlink()'ed before the data has been flushed). > > Using Linux-style asynchronous writes will cause the data to > still be written to disk, even if in a more efficient manner. This > is not as good as avoiding the disk operations entirely. > > But a Journaling extent-based filesystem with a hashed directory > structure (such as SGI XFS) would be a big step forward over what > most people are likely to have. > > > So, you really didn't give us enough information to guess at how well > > your server will do. Still you can probably count on at least 2k > > messages/minute if you have a SCSI disk subsystem and use something like > > Postfix. > > Certainly, a high-speed multi-user oriented disk subsystem would > also help, and here SCSI is preferred over ATA/EIDE (it's the > multi-user part that SCSI does so much better). > > > BTW: if you choose to use Sendmail, I have some tweaks that let it run > > in an quasi-optimized mode (similar to Postfix). You will find them > > described here: > >http://www.trilug.org/~jonc/mailserver/PartIII.html > For larger lists and Mailman, I have found that nothing beats using a RAM disk and accessing the list database files via the mounted RAM disk. The speed increase can be 100x faster. Take care and again, good luck! Jon Carnes -
Re: [Mailman-Users] Deleting the archives
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 10:53, Ed Whitcomb wrote: > Is there a way to delete the archives? I've been > sending a lot of test messages before it goes live and > I don't want them in the archives. > > Thanks in advance, > > Ed > Delete the Mbox file for the list (or edit out the messages you don't want), then run the arch command on that list. For more specific details, read the FAQ item on it: > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman performance / sends per hour
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 12:19, Vivek Khera wrote: > >>>>> "JS" == John Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > JS> With a dedicated Pentium 4 2GHz / 1 GB RAM server / > JS> 10Mbs, what sort of performance should be possible > JS> with Mailman? Sends per hour / max subscribers. > > I think it depends on your MTA and whether you have personalization on > in Mailman (which will increase the number of messages being pumped > through). Also, sending mail tends to be disk-bound if you are not > network-bound. > Right! Given decent equipment the MTA is the primary worry. For best performance you really want to use an optimized MTA like Postfix. Postfix shuffles slow responding mail sites to the end of the queue so that they don't hold up the outflow of mail. The increase in efficiency this gives you is tremendous and far outweighs any other gains. The next best thing you can do is use a nice fast LVD disk subsystem (maybe even a RAID) for your /var volume. MTA's follow a specification that ensures the delivery of mail, even if the server goes down. This means that each and every transaction is written somewhere on disk. So moving mail around takes a very large number of read and writes! We say that mail servers are disk I/O bound. So, you really didn't give us enough information to guess at how well your server will do. Still you can probably count on at least 2k messages/minute if you have a SCSI disk subsystem and use something like Postfix. Good Luck - Jon Carnes BTW: if you choose to use Sendmail, I have some tweaks that let it run in an quasi-optimized mode (similar to Postfix). You will find them described here: http://www.trilug.org/~jonc/mailserver/PartIII.html -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Passwords Q
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 16:19, Nyx Wolfwlaker wrote: > Greetings, > > I've not been able to find the info, but I know its out there ... How can I send > members > their password if they forget what it is? > > Or how can they get their passwrod if they for get it? > > Thanks take care, > > Nyx Wolfwalker As long as you know the email address, you can use the listinfo page for your list to have it send the user a password reminder. Other than that, you can also do a dump of the database and read the password which is stored in plain text. Good Luck, Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] keep users from turning off delivery
On Mon, 2003-07-21 at 15:43, Robert C. Jacobson wrote: > At 03:04 PM -0400 7/21/03, Jon Carnes wrote: > >How is this any different than an ordinary aliases list? > > Perhaps you are joking here, but I'll answer anyway. I assume you > are referring to the MTA built-in aliases. I'd like non-root users > to be able to add people to the list. I previously ran this list on > majordomo, but everyone says "mailman, mailman, mailman", so here I > am. > Actually I was serious, but I've handled that (in the past) differently than you. I used include files in the /etc/aliases and put the included files for the aliases into samba shared directories. Worked fine for letting admins of each department edit their own aliases lists. Some caveats to that method: I had to set "dontblamesendmail" to true, and I ran a cron job every ten minutes looking for any changes to the files (which then ran "newalaises"). There are better ways of doing that now. > >But seriously, if you want to use Mailman, you can tell it not to mail a > >welcome message (this is what has the password in it). > > I figured that part out (yay for me :) ) But then they can just go > to the web interface for your email address (e.g. > http://doman.com/mailman/options/test/robert.jacobson%40gsfc.nasa.gov) > And tell it to email you a password reminder. > > >Then you can > >disable the listinfo portion of the web so that they can't get the > >password from the Web-portion, and you can simply route the > >-request alias for the list to go to the admins. > > How do you disable that? And does that also disable the options screen? Well, beyond the obvious answer of editing the source code, there is always the brute force method of deleting the cgi: ~mailman/cgi-bin/options or you could also write a simple cgi to replace it that simply prints out an html formated information page telling them to contact their administrator. > >Don't forget to setup the config of the list to *not* look for > >administrative requests going to the list. > > > >Good Luck > > If this gets too complicated, I guess I'll switch back to majordomo :-/ > -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] keep users from turning off delivery
How is this any different than an ordinary aliases list? But seriously, if you want to use Mailman, you can tell it not to mail a welcome message (this is what has the password in it). Then you can disable the listinfo portion of the web so that they can't get the password from the Web-portion, and you can simply route the -request alias for the list to go to the admins. Don't forget to setup the config of the list to *not* look for administrative requests going to the list. Good Luck On Mon, 2003-07-21 at 12:35, Robert C. Jacobson wrote: > I'm trying to set up a corporate, required membership mailing list. > I've already figured out that I can prevent them from unsubscribing > by requiring moderator approval. > > However, it appears that any user can simply go to their options page > and disable their delivery. Is there a way to stop this? > > On a similar note, how do I keep mailman from telling the newly > subscribed user their password? This certainly would prevent them > from turning off their delivery > > Thanks > -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: Re[2]: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mail does not have recipient in Toaddress
On Mon, 2003-07-21 at 06:13, Abigail Marshall wrote: > Hello Richard, > > Monday, July 21, 2003, 2:35:21 AM, you wrote: > > > RB> Not so with MM 2.1.2. Turning on full personalization on the non-digest > RB> options web admin GUI page for a list does the trick. The list then > RB> sends individual copies of posts to each subscriber with their email > RB> addresses in the To: header > > I have 2.1.2 installed and don't see this full > personalization option anywhere. The "non digest" options > page gives me the following three choices: > > Can subscribers choose to receive mail immediately, rather than in batched digests? > (Edit nondigestable) [No/Yes] > > Header added to mail sent to regular list members > (Details for msg_header) > > Footer added to mail sent to regular list members > (Details for msg_footer > > > Are there other settings that could be influencing whether > this option is available? > Yes. In ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py you need to add: OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = 1 Please read FAQ's: 3.15 and 2.2 Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Duplicate messages
On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 16:46, Ed Wilts wrote: > I'm trying to discover why mailman sent the same message multiple times > to the same recipients. I don't believe it happened to every recipient > on my list, but as Murphy's Law would have it, some key people did get > the message more than once - some got it at least 3 times. > > The message really was only posted to the list once. > > What can I look at to see why this happened, and to ensure that it > doesn't happen again? I'm running Mailman 2.0.13 on Red Hat Linux > 7.0. > > Thanks, > .../Ed The most common cause for duplicates is that the users are on multiple lists (or sublists). If the original list contains other sublists then each sublist will get the message, and folks on both lists will get the message twice. Another less common cause is a resource problem on the Mail-server. If the message was very large and the amount of RAM on the Mail-server was small, you might have run out of resources while processing the message. A malformed or odd header on an email could also make earlier releases of Mailman send out duplicates. I haven't heard of that being a problem in version 2.0.13 (which is very robust). If you can look at the headers of the email that these folks got, it will help you figure out what is going on. If the headers are all identical, then the mail was duplicated, and you should mark the time when the message was processed and then check out the logs of your server for that time period. If the headers are not identical, then they should help you trace down where the duplicates are coming from. Good Luck - Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribing Users from the web interface.
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 13:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Did I ask a stupid question or hard one? > Any assistance on this would appreciated. > > > Problem the confirmation messages still don't arrive. > > > >Here is what I see in /var/log/maillog > > > > > >Jul 14 19:44:39 mydomain sendmail[2764]: h6ENidN02764: > >from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=1646, class=-60, nrcpts=1, > >msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP, > >daemon=MTA, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1] > >Jul 14 19:44:40 mydomain sendmail[2766]: h6ENidN02764: > >to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, > >mailer=esmtp, pri=139646, relay=mx2.mail.yahoo.com. [64.157.4.82], > >dsn=5.0.0, stat=Service unavailable > >Jul 14 19:44:40 mydomain sendmail[2766]: h6ENidN02764: h6ENieN02766: > >DSN: Service unavailable > > > > Check your configuration. There is a setting in the config that says to add -owner onto each email. You might have accidently checked it. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't save config
rpm -qi mailman If there are any installation notes for post install, that should bring them to light. I've installed Mailman many, many times from source. I've also done a few rpm installs. The source one's *always* work. The rpm ones always need a bit of tweaking - which is fine once you know what to tweak. RedHat 9's rpm install seems to work fairly well, though I did have to run check_perms -f to get it to work properly (and that was not in the documentation for the rpm). Good Luck - Jon Carnes On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 12:52, James Pifer wrote: > I didn't see anything in that FAQ that looked like it applied to my > issue. > > Another question though. Is there any documentation for installation > when using the RPM install? Trying to follow the install doc for non-RPM > install is very difficult when installed with RPM. > > Should I uninstall the RPM and do it the manual way? > > Thanks, > James > > On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 11:23, Jon Carnes wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 09:40, James Pifer wrote: > > > I searched the archives but did not find an answer. I have also already > > > posted to Redhat's list for help(since I was already on their list), but > > > none of their suggestions worked. > > > > > > I'm new to mailman and trying to run it (2.0.13-3) on Redhat 8.0. It's > > > installed and I created a new list. The problem is that I can't save any > > > changes I make to that list from the admin pages. For example, if I > > > change the where replies are directed to to "This List" and then hit > > > submit, it asks me to enter the admin password again, then takes me back > > > to the page. Problem is it didn't save my changes. > > > > > > -It is sending cookies and my browser is accepting them (turned on > > > prompting) > > > -I did the post-install things from the readme > > > -I ran check_perms, which found a bunch of permission problems, which I > > > corrected with check_perms -f > > > > > > Anyone know what the problem is? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > James > > > > > First, try deleting your local cookies, if that doesn't work, then read the FAQ it > > has some interesting suggestions that might work. > > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't save config
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 09:40, James Pifer wrote: > I searched the archives but did not find an answer. I have also already > posted to Redhat's list for help(since I was already on their list), but > none of their suggestions worked. > > I'm new to mailman and trying to run it (2.0.13-3) on Redhat 8.0. It's > installed and I created a new list. The problem is that I can't save any > changes I make to that list from the admin pages. For example, if I > change the where replies are directed to to "This List" and then hit > submit, it asks me to enter the admin password again, then takes me back > to the page. Problem is it didn't save my changes. > > -It is sending cookies and my browser is accepting them (turned on > prompting) > -I did the post-install things from the readme > -I ran check_perms, which found a bunch of permission problems, which I > corrected with check_perms -f > > Anyone know what the problem is? > > Thanks, > James > First, try deleting your local cookies, if that doesn't work, then read the FAQ it has some interesting suggestions that might work. Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
That would certainly work, but the problem is that ordinary folks using the mailing list would probably simply ignore that advice when they post. On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 08:37, Ed Wilts wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 02:18:27PM +0200, Brad Knowles wrote: > > The problem is how to embed something like this within the HTML, > > so that it would work for everyone. And there is no easy answer for > > that question. > > How about doing something simply obvious, like forcing the sending > poster to use something like MAILMAN_FOOTER in the HTML. Then mailman > could simply scan the html code for the keyword and do an in-place > substitution. Grossly simple, so I'm probably overlooking something... -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] remove_members error
There are some convoluted way to get this done... and here is my favorite - use a hex editor and find each occurrence of the offending email (there should be three or four) and then change the first "@" to some letter like "a". Now simply remove that email address. This is really fast and works great. Good Luck - Jon Carnes On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 02:57, Juan Enrique Gómez wrote: > Hi! > > I am getting the following error when trying to unsubscribe an special > mail address (really not special, a bad suscriptor address). > > Here is the command used and the error, any help will be very > appreciatted: > > bin/remove_members -n -N novedades > [EMAIL PROTECTED]@elsitio.com > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "bin/remove_members", line 186, in ? > main() > File "bin/remove_members", line 176, in main > admin_notif, userack) > File "/home/listas.m2kcore/Mailman/MailList.py", line 941, in > ApprovedDeleteMember > self.removeMember(emailaddr) > File "/home/listas.m2kcore/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 220, > in removeMember > self.__assertIsMember(member) > File "/home/listas.m2kcore/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 113, > in __assertIsMember > raise Errors.NotAMemberError, member > Mailman.Errors.NotAMemberError: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Thanks in advance for any help -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
Just curious, but what would be the problem in looking for an html message and if the message is html, placing the footer directly in front of the tag - or if that is missing, in front of the tag - or if that is missing, simply putting it at the end of the message. That seems like it would accommodate 99% of the situations discussed here. The coding for that would also be fairly straightforward. Jon "in ignorance" Carnes On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 20:03, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 4:53 PM -0700 2003/07/15, Jason Buscema wrote: > > > This puts me back to my original post... the reason I want to have a > > personalized footer message in my HTML emails is so that a user can click > > the link to unsubscribe. Again, we don't use Mailman management for this > > list. > > I'm confused. If you're not using mailman for the list, why are > you asking us for help on this topic? > > The problem with HTML is that there is no standard way of knowing > where the bottom of the message is (as perceived by the user), and > therefore you can't really attach a footer at the bottom. You could > encapsulate the entire HTML message and use a MIME multipart, but how > that would be displayed would vary greatly depending on the MUA. > > > So, the basic answer is -- it can't be done. Not with HTML > e-mail. This is one of the many reasons why people who've been doing > e-mail for a while consider it to be one of the worst evils that has > been visited upon the Internet -- usually just below spam. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] more names per page in the admin lookup?
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 16:10, JC Dill wrote: > I've asked before, but had no answer: > > If some kind person will remind me how to change the administrative page > setting so we get more than 30 names per page, it would really help. > > Thanks! > > jc Change it in mm_cfg.py (See Defaults.py for the exact syntax) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] One more time--list server bounces goingthrough news gateway
On Mon, 2003-07-14 at 13:27, Eric McDonald wrote: > I've posted this several times now. Am I asking the wrong question, not > providing enough information, or? It seems that even the most simple of > questions are being answered, and I don't understand why this might be > off-topic. > > * > > Hi everyone: > > I have a list server that's tied to a news server through the gateway, > specifically soc.nonprofit.org > > When someone posts a message to the newsgroup, it gets forwarded to the > nonprofit list server that I maintain, but if one of the users on the > listserver has the mail bounced back, and then it's approved by the > administrator, then the bounce goes all the way back to the original > poster on the newsgroup (not the whole newsgroup itself). > > Is there any way to make list server bounces transparent to those who > are posting to the newsgroup? > > Thanks in advance, > > Eric McDonald > Systems Admin, RAIN Network > Well since no one has answered, I'll kick in my 2 cents. I've done this integration for a few folks, and for similar reasons to what you describe, I use an external script to move mailing list mail out to the News server. It's a bit of a pain, but it lets you filter out these kinds of things. Alternately, you can pull the Newslist mail into your mailman list using an external app, and modify the From to a generic user so that any bounces get dumped. You could do this by hacking the code to Mailman as well. I've tried adding headers to mail pulled from the Newslists (Mailman does this for you already), but if the users MUA is silly enough to bounce the message from a mailing list, then it's silly enough to *not* include those headers as well Good Luck - Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribed email addresses: Is there a log?
You'll find what you seek, when you look in the Mailman logs. On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 23:49, Angel Gabriel wrote: > I would like to have a list of all people that have unsubscribed from > some mailing lists since my list began. Is there anyway for me to get > these records? > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] newbie question
Ahh, the list was already created before you did all this right? You'll have to use a special fix_url script on your list (or delete and recreate the list). The script is found in ~mailman/bin/.. Life in NC is fun (as usual). You are missed. Hope you're having fun in my old haunts up in Cambridge! Take care - Jon On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 14:12, Ed Hill wrote: > On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 11:33, Jon Carnes wrote: > > Hay Ed, > > > > What version of Mailman are you using? Guessing that you are using a > > recent version, you should be able to set the Mailing host (as opposed > > to the Web host) separate within the configuration file: > > ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py > > Hi Jon, > > Thanks for responding! I'm using mailman-2.1.2-2 as shipped with RH 9 > and the machine has the name "forge.lcs.mit.edu" with a CNAME of > "dev.mitgcm.org" pointing to the same IP address. Through the Mailman > admin web interface I set the Reply-To: address as > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and in the Mailman config file I set: > > DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'dev.mitgcm.org' > DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'dev.mitgcm.org' > > and also in sendmail.mc I used: > > MASQUERADE_AS(`dev.mitgcm.org')dnl > FEATURE(allmasquerade)dnl > FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl > FEATURE(masquerade_entire_domain)dnl > MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(forge.lcs.mit.edu)dnl > MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(dev.mitgcm.org)dnl > > and made sure to run the sendmail.cf--rebuild command and restart all > daemons. But after all that the emails from the list still arrive at my > inbox with To: and Reply-To: addresses of > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" when what I'd prefer is > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". Its really just an annoyance since the > list emails seem to go to all the right places -- I just want the > different fqdn in the To: and Reply-To: headers. > > So I'm stumped. What config-file invocation am I missing? > > > > You would be setting up a virtual domain since the address is different > > from the default. > > > > The kids are calling so I've got to be running! Good Luck - Jon > > Thanks again and I hope things are going well in NC! ;-) > > Ed > -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] newbie question
Hay Ed, What version of Mailman are you using? Guessing that you are using a recent version, you should be able to set the Mailing host (as opposed to the Web host) separate within the configuration file: ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py You would be setting up a virtual domain since the address is different from the default. The kids are calling so I've got to be running! Good Luck - Jon On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 10:25, Ed Hill wrote: > Hi folks, > > I've setup mailman for a low-traffic public list and, while all the > mails seem to get through just fine, I'm having one nagging little > problem. I'd like the Reply-To: address to point to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > but mails sent from the list appear to be from: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > in spite of my efforts to specify the Return-To: settings through the > mailman admin tools. > > For instance, heres part of a header: > > Received: from onyx.he.net (onyx.he.net [216.218.161.2]) by > forge.lcs.mit.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6AEFXMf018850 for > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:15:33 -0400 > Received: from eaps-dhcp-131.lcs.mit.edu (eaps-dhcp-131.lcs.mit.edu > [18.24.3.131]) by onyx.he.net (8.8.6p2003-03-31/8.8.2) with ESMTP id > HAA05609 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:15:33 > -0700 > > and it appears from this that sendmail is changing the Reply-To: > address. > > Any suggestions on how I can fix this? > > thanks! > Ed > -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Notices
Scan the mailman log files. It reports every bounce in the logs. On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 00:43, John Liggins wrote: > How do I set things so that I can get a Bounce notice the FIRST time that a > message bounces? I need to know if anyone on my list has NOT received a > message. > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught runner exception
Just as a guess, I would say that you need to monitor your servers memory allocation while sending out a message. Your list may have outgrown the current resources. If this happens, then corruption can creep into your database and you may need to rebuild it. Do a database check. Also dump out your user list and store it in a backup - if it dumps out with no problems. Good Luck. Hope you find the answers soon. On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 20:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi > > I'm running mailman for the mailing list of http://www.aarons-jokes.com/ > I'm currently sending out over 150,000 mails (over 7 lists) a day using > an "announce only" type setup. > > Problem is mailman has been causing the server to crash on a regular > basis. > > I am get VERY large number (1000's) of the following errors and as yet > have not been able to track down the problem. I recently upgraded to > 2.1.2 and the problem still persists. Is anybody else having these same > error or stability problems with large lists? > > Thanks > Rob Anderson > webmaster > http://www.aarons-jokes.com/ > > > *** error 1 start *** > Jul 09 19:11:17 2003 (3753) Uncaught runner exception: could not convert > string to float > Jul 09 19:11:17 2003 (3753) Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 105, in > _oneloop > self._onefile(msg, msgdata) > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 155, in > _onefile > keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py", line 126, in > _dispose > mlist.registerBounce(addr, msg) > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Bouncer.py", line 113, in > registerBounce > member) > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Pending.py", line 75, in new > db = _load() > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Pending.py", line 163, in _load > return cPickle.load(fp) > ValueError: could not convert string to float > > Jul 09 19:11:16 2003 (3753) SHUNTING: > 105934.374436+b94b87a5f6e96604a9eaf73d54eaf53891901316 > > *** error 1 end *** > > *** error 2 start *** > Jul 09 19:11:16 2003 (3753) Uncaught runner exception: could not convert > string to float > Jul 09 19:11:16 2003 (3753) Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 105, in > _oneloop > self._onefile(msg, msgdata) > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 155, in > _onefile > keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py", line 126, in > _dispose > mlist.registerBounce(addr, msg) > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Bouncer.py", line 113, in > registerBounce > member) > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Pending.py", line 75, in new > db = _load() > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Pending.py", line 163, in _load > return cPickle.load(fp) > ValueError: could not convert string to float > > Jul 09 19:11:15 2003 (3753) SHUNTING: > 105934.045249+1be1e4bc562ef65144a2ff5c28abd4b7690452e7 > *** error 2 end *** > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] Return to performance
On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 19:05, Eric Miller wrote: > Thank you all for the suggestions and references. > I made some quick changes, especially the > > O Timeout.iconnect=5s > > sendmail option seemed to really help. I'm down to 4 to 10 minutes > with most messages at 6. > It really helps when you move those slow MTA's to the end of the line, they don't block the messages getting out to the quicker ones. > One question: Should I be looking at a better MTA? Yes. Postfix. For you that would be a fairly easy change. RedHat 9 comes with an MTA changer that will move you over to Postfix automagically. I don't know the effect that will have on Mailman, but I've heard from third-hand sources that it works fine (which I find surprising). > What is the fastest that works with RedHat 9? > (I guess that is two questions...) > > Thanks! > > Eric BTW: I looked at the the other fellows recommend web-sites. This one seemed worth the trip, and a good recommendation for reading (though a bit dated). Most of it was general to any Mail server. http://www.jetcafe.org/npc/doc/performance_tuning.pdf I'm sure you already looked at it though. Take care and good luck - Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Return to performance
On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 11:36, Eric Miller wrote: > Dear all, > > In my last post on performance you gave me a lot of good advice. > Some things that helped: > Set SMTP_MAX_RCTPS back to default of 500 (I found a posting >that said 3 to 5 was better, must have been an old version) > Upped my RAM to 1.5 GB > Rearranged how the machine saw the internet so my firewall was > less of a choke on flow. > > I implemented all that I could and my send times are now down > to from 5 to 30 minutes. I'd like to see better. > > Some facts on my setup: > > OS: Redhat 9 > Mailman Version: 2.1 > Hardware: 2.5 Mhz Athlon > Drive: Single 40 GB > MTA: sendmail (default with Redhat) (SMTPDirect) > DNS Helper: pdnsd > Network Connection: Full T1 from Sprint > Usage: Average 12 Messages a Day, 8 in a four hour window from 6AM to 10AM >Pacific Standard Time > Subscriber: Around 2000, around 1/2 overseas > > > When I check times I look at the time from when Mailman received > the message till it shows up on my company mailserver (different machines on > two different networks) > > 99.9% of my recipients are outside my LAN > > I am looking at disk utilization and see if that is hurting me as well. > > Something else that puzzles me is that some of the recipients seem to have > very slow mail receivers, especially in India and China. Is there a way > to find slow connections and group them together so they don't slow down > everyone else? > > Thank you in advance for any and all advice! As I said earlier, this > really is a very cool piece of software. I just want to make sure I am > getting the most out of it. > > Thanks > > Eric > Hmm, Well I'm probably one of the old curmudgeons that propagates the SMTP_MAX_RCTPS = 5 as being best for Sendmail. If that doesn't work for you, then you might not like this advise either... http://www.trilug.org/~jonc/mailserver/PartIII.html O Timeout.iconnect=5m - Used to weed out slow hosts. Definitely change this. I recommend trying 5 seconds (O Timeout.iconnect=5s). This value is the timeout for the initial connection. If it fails the initial connection then it moves that host to the rear of the queue and when its turn comes again in the queue it will use the more generic "Timeout.connect" value. O Timeout.ident=0 - You really want to check this and make *sure* that it is zero, otherwise sendmail wastes that many seconds attempting to use ident. Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Stripping Header from post?
On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 11:26, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 8:31 AM -0400 2003/07/08, Jon Carnes wrote: > > > Use procmail as a preprocessor and the formail utility to strip out the > > headers and replace them with more generic ones. > > That only works for the headers on input. This is a case of > headers being generated on output, and being placed there by the next > system down the line (which they don't control). They need to fix > their system so that it uses a single anonymized envelope sender > address, and then the problem will fix itself. > The problem as stated was to anonymize the mail - remove the identity of the original sender and replace it with an anonymous one. Intercepting the incoming mail and replacing the original headers with generic ones does just that. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Stripping Header from post?
Use procmail as a preprocessor and the formail utility to strip out the headers and replace them with more generic ones. You could also write your own milter (something well worth doing - even if just once)... milter = mail + filter Jon Carnes On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 14:20, Devin wrote: > Myself and the other administrator that I've set up for this list have > decided to make it members only, and have those members posts be > anonymous. While I've found in the settings where to make the mail look > like it's just coming from the list admin rather then "on behalf of..." > the header still lists who the mail was from. Here's an example: > > It appears when you look at the header it still shows "(envelope-from > [EMAIL PROTECTED]), Is there a way so it doesn't show the envelope-from > in the header?) > > Any response would greatly be appreciated. We are currently using > Mailman 2.0.13. > > An example of the header shows: > > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Received: from phobos.aros.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by localhost (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h61JJ36s020812 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 13:19:03 -0600 (MDT) > (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > Received: from mail1.microsoft.com (mail1.microsoft.com [131.107.3.125]) > by phobos.aros.net (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h61JIo6s020640 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 13:18:50 -0600 (MDT) > (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > Received: from inet-vrs-01.redmond.corp.microsoft.com ([157.54.8.27]) by > mail1.microsoft.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6659); > Tue, 1 Jul 2003 12:18:49 -0700 > Received: from 157.54.5.25 by inet-vrs-01.redmond.corp.microsoft.com > (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 01 Jul 2003 12:18:49 -0700 > Received: from SVC-MSG-02.northamerica.corp.microsoft.com > ([157.57.215.129]) by inet-hub-03.redmond.corp.microsoft.com with > Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); > Tue, 1 Jul 2003 12:18:49 -0700 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 > Content-class: urn:content-classes:message > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; > boundary="InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary" > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Searchable Archives
On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 01:25, Peter Russell wrote: > Hi there, i want to add the searchable archives interface that the7y have > at www.list.org. I have found in the FAQ some links to various patches etc > - but to be honest there are so many i havent a clue as to which one i > need, or whihc need to be applied first before installing the searchable > patch. > > Does anyone know of a tutorial or easy 1, 2, 3 guide to getting this > working on default Red Hat 9/Mailman machines? I dont ev en know what > version of mailman it is, it says 2.1 on the admin webpage, but no other > details. > > Kind regards and thanks > Pete Looks like they are using Mhonarc as the archiver, and htdig as the search engine. The FAQ has an overview of using Mhonarc with Mailman. Mhonarc's docs are also very good. You would use Mhonarc to replace Pipermail (the simple default archiver that ships with Mailman). The integration of HTDig with Mhonarch is documented on the Mhonarc site and the HTDig site. Good Luck - Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Any Solution to 2.1.2 Upgrade on Debian?
You should try contacting the Debian maintainer for Mailman. I'm sure they would be able to help you - in fact they are probably on this list... Reporting problems in Debian packages = If you would like to file a bug against a Debian package, we have a bug tracking system where you can easily report your problem. Please read the instructions for filing bug reports: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting If you simply want to communicate with the maintainer of a Debian package, then you can use the special mail aliases set up for each package. Any mail sent to @packages.debian.org will be forwarded to the maintainer responsible for that package. == If that doesn't get a proper response by Monday night, try the install from source. It's a lot easier than you think. Good Luck - Jon Carnes On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 12:45, David A. Cornelson wrote: > I posted this once already and tried on suggested solution that basically > destroyed my python installation. I had to reinstall python and mailman and > I'm back to this exact same problem. To add to this symptom, the icons don't > show up. They seemed to have been moved or a link isn't being created in the > package. > > Before I try to install from the .tar, is this related to a poor debian > package or is it something inherent in 2.1.2 on Debian? Or, a true solution > would be helpful. > > Thanks, > > David Cornelson > > > Bug in Mailman version 2.1.2 > We're sorry, we hit a bug! > If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of > this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what > happened. Thanks! > Traceback: > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main > main() > File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py", line 96, in main > process_form(mlist, doc, cgidata, language) > File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py", line 176, in > process_form > mlist.AddMember(userdesc, remote) > File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 831, in AddMember > text=text, lang=lang) > File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Message.py", line 206, in __init__ > errors='replace') > TypeError: __init__() got an unexpected keyword argument 'errors' > > > > Python information: > Variable > Value > sys.version > 2.2.2 (#1, Mar 21 2003, 23:01:54) [GCC 3.2.3 20030316 (Debian prerelease)] > sys.executable > /usr/bin/python > sys.prefix > /usr > sys.exec_prefix > /usr > sys.path > /usr > sys.platform > linux2 > > Environment variables: > Variable > Value > HTTP_ACCEPT > image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, > application/vnd.ms-excel, application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, application/msword, > application/x-shockwave-flash, */* > CONTENT_TYPE > application/x-www-form-urlencoded > HTTP_REFERER > http://plover.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/beta > SERVER_SOFTWARE > Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) Debian GNU/Linux mod_jk/1.1.0 DAV/1.0.3 > PYTHONPATH > /var/lib/mailman > SCRIPT_FILENAME > /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/subscribe > SERVER_ADMIN > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > SCRIPT_NAME > /cgi-bin/mailman/subscribe > SERVER_SIGNATURE > > REQUEST_METHOD > POST > HTTP_HOST > plover.net > PATH_INFO > /beta > SERVER_PROTOCOL > HTTP/1.1 > QUERY_STRING > > HTTP_CACHE_CONTROL > no-cache > REQUEST_URI > /cgi-bin/mailman/subscribe/beta > CONTENT_LENGTH > 112 > PATH_TRANSLATED > /home/httpd/html/beta > HTTP_USER_AGENT > Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.2; .NET CLR 1.1.4322) > HTTP_CONNECTION > Keep-Alive > SERVER_NAME > plover.net > REMOTE_ADDR > 64.81.228.28 > REMOTE_PORT > 8026 > HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE > en-us > SERVER_ADDR > 64.81.228.29 > SERVER_PORT > 80 > GATEWAY_INTERFACE > CGI/1.1 > REMOTE_HOST > dsl081-228-028.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net > HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING > gzip, deflate > UNIQUE_ID > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > DOCUMENT_ROOT > /home/httpd/html > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] [Fwd: list statics] - Bounces
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 16:31, veryaner wrote: > hi everybody, > I need a module or something to show my list statics? is this posible? > I want to show, the user who send more mails, and that kind of things... > thanks in advanced > veryaner > > -- == Begin script: mm_bounces === #!/bin/bash # mm_bounces: sends an email of bounced folks to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list # Note, these bounced emails have been automatically set to "no mail" # for the Mailman lists that they were a part of. # written by Jon Carnes, last modified on May 1, 2003 # create temp file to collect stats TMPFILE=`mktemp /tmp/mm_stats.XX` || exit 1 BOINK=/var/log/mailman/bounce.1 MONTH="`date -d"last month" +%b`" echo "This is a list of emails from $MONTH that were bouncing" \ >$TMPFILE echo "but are still subscribed to local Mailman mailing lists." \ >>$TMPFILE echo "The email addresses were automatically set to _no_mail_" \ >>$TMPFILE echo "in the specified lists, due to the bounces." >>$TMPFILE echo "You should consider deleting these email addresses from" \ >>$TMPFILE echo "all Mailman lists:" >>$TMPFILE echo "/home/mailman/bin/remove_members --fromall [EMAIL PROTECTED]" \ >>$TMPFILE echo " " >> $TMPFILE echo "==" >> $TMPFILE grep -hs "disabled " $BOINK | \ grep -vs "already disabled" | \ grep -s $MONTH | \ cut -f6- "-d " |sort >> $TMPFILE TEST="`tail -1 $TMPFILE`" if [ "$TEST" = "==" ]; then rm $TMPFILE; exit 0; fi # TEST indicates that there were email addresses disabled last month # So we need to send this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] cat $TMPFILE |mail -s "$MONTH: Mailman disable list" [EMAIL PROTECTED] rm $TMPFILE == End of Script == -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] [Fwd: list statics]
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 16:31, veryaner wrote:
> hi everybody,
> I need a module or something to show my list statics? is this posible?
> I want to show, the user who send more mails, and that kind of things...
> thanks in advanced
> veryaner
>
> --
== Beginning of script: mm_stats ==
#! /bin/bash
# Run monthly stats on Meeting maker logs
# - top 10 users of each list
# - Number of attempted posts (per list)
# - Total bytes sent (per list)
# written by Jon Carnes, last modified on Sept 26, 2002
#
# Mailman's log file to be examined for stats
#POST=/home/mailman/logs/post
POST=/var/log/mailman/post.1
# create temp file to collect stats
TMPFILE=`mktemp /tmp/mm_stats.XX` || exit 1
LIST="`/var/mailman/bin/list_lists |awk '{print $1}' |sed -n '2,$p'`"
for i in $LIST
do
echo "Stats from local Mailman list: $i" > $TMPFILE
echo " " >> $TMPFILE
echo -n " Starting: " >> $TMPFILE
head -1 $POST |cut -f1-3 "-d " >> $TMPFILE
echo -n " Ending:" >> $TMPFILE
tail -1 $POST |cut -f1-3 "-d " >> $TMPFILE
echo " ===" >> $TMPFILE
echo -n "Total posts to the list: " >> $TMPFILE
grep -i "post to $i " $POST |wc -l >> $TMPFILE
echo -n "Total SUCCESSFUL posts to the list: " >> $TMPFILE
grep -i "post to $i " $POST |grep success |wc -l >> $TMPFILE
SIZ=`grep -i "post to $i" $POST|grep success|cut -f2 -d= |cut -f1 -d,`
k=0; for j in $SIZ; do k=$(( j + k )); done
echo " Total bytes" = $k >> $TMPFILE
echo " " >> $TMPFILE
echo "Top 10 posters to the list:" >> $TMPFILE
grep -i "post to $i " $POST |cut -f 10 "-d " |sort |uniq -c \
|sort -bgr |head -10 >> $TMPFILE
echo " " >> $TMPFILE
# Mail the collected stats off to list admin and cc mailman user
mail -s "Mailman Stats for List: $i" -c mailman $i-admin <$TMPFILE
done
# remove the temp file
rm $TMPFILE
== End of Script ==
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Re: [Mailman-Users] virtual domains/hosts (qmail+mailman)
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 16:33, bazofia wrote: > Hia Hoa > > I have some questions for you :D > > *Can I have only one mailman installation to manage more than one virtual > domain? Yes. > *Can these vdomains have their own lists (private for each one) and it's > own list admin? (only one mailman installation) Yes. You have to play with the list names if any of the Vdomains have lists with the same name. The local names for the lists must be different, but the virtual names can be anything. > *I'd like not to have a subdomain lists.whatever.com. Can I have the lists > at the same domain as the real users? (not passing all the subdomain mail > from qmail to mailman, only the mail sent to the lists) Huh? I can read this question several ways, most of which the answer is yes. Yes, the mail for the Vdomain will work fine on a server with real users. Yes, if list.whatever.com's mail goes to a different server, then it can be forwarded (an alias setup) to the server with Mailman on it. Works fine, but requires that all lists be setup manually on two servers. And yes, if that happens your Mailman server can still serve the mail as @whatever.com -- it doesn't need to be @lists.whatever.com, though that would work as well, be easier on you because you wouldn't need to setup aliases on the two servers. > > how!? > can you point me to some URLs with examples? > (I have read INSTALL, README.QMAIL and README, and asked google, too, but > had no success!!) > Setup a test system and learn/play/discover. Some good reading that you have skipped is the file: ~mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py > thanks in advance! > have a nice day. > > You are welcome. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] how are large distribution lists handled
Check out the archives for reams of discussions on this setting. Basically it lets mailman drop off a bunch of mail all destined for the same domain in one email. If 500 of your list members are all with AOL.com then Mailman will put all 500 addresses into one email and dump it out to your MTA. What your MTA does with it is up to it. This dumps the mail as quickly as possible out of Mailman and into your MTA for delivery. That's why most folks like the value to be high. Your MTA also has some settings that affect how many recipients an email is allowed to have. If you keep it at 500 for dumping mail to aol, then your mail will get bounced. On sites using sendmail, I find that the best value for SMTP_MAX_RCPTS is between 5 and 10. This delivers the mail rapidly in small chunks and doesn't set off any alarms at various Domains. Play with it yourself and see what works for you. I've seen ancient graphs of delivery times vs number of user on lists, mapped for various levels of SMTP_MAX_RCPTS. For that site, the best value to use was 5 (for delivering mail the fastest). Jon Carnes On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 10:10, Bruce Embrey wrote: > Mailman-Users: > > I am using Mailman 2.1.1 I have several lists and my setting for > SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 500. If I have a list with 4000 addresses will this > setting segment the message into 8 messages with 500 recipients per > message? This SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 500 was the default setting when I installed > it. Is it the recommended setting or should it be changed? > > > Bruce Embrey > > > Bruce Edward Embrey : VMS Systems Manager > Campus Email Admin : UNIX / Linux Administrator > Hood College : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Phone (301)696-3927 > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Redirect AOL subscribers
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 08:29, Ed Leafe wrote: > I'm currently running a few lists with Mailman, and it's been working > great. One problem has popped up, though: AOL now blocks *all* email > coming from servers with RoadRunner IP addresses. Their rationale is > that it is necessary to block the inflow of spam. > > Some of my subscribers have AOL accounts, and now cannot receives > posts to the list. I do have an alternate SMTP server I can use, but I > don't want all the traffic to go through that server. Is there any way > to redirect just the mail that is addressed to aol.com accounts to that > alternate server, and let the rest go through as usual? I'm running > Postfix as my MTA on RedHat Linux 8. > Yes, setup a transport for aol /etc/postfix/transport A lot of small installs are seeing this problem, and it's not just with AOL. Folks are forcing ISP's to really police themselves for Spammers (something RoadRunner doesn't do too well). Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] list request alias doesn't seem to work
Please, Please, read the README.POSTFIX Some MTA's intercept the "-request" aliases, as well as a few others. Look in the configuration of your MTA. It's a common problem. Jon Carnes On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 11:12, Jeroen Valcke wrote: > Another strange problem. > > Although messages to the list seem to pass just fine, there's a problem > with messages sent to the request alias, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > These msgs do arrive on the server but aren't processed by MailMan. > Searched the MailMan logs but found nothing. Any ideas? > > -Jeroen- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] not able to access admin web interface
On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 11:09, Jeroen Valcke wrote: > On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 10:56:19AM -0400, Jon Carnes wrote: > > Check for lock files on the server. If you find any for that list, > > delete them and then try to login to the list. > > Any particular place where I can find the lock files? /tmp I guess? ~mailman/locks -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Excessive CPU usage
Check your postfix configuration and make sure you have changed the bounce code for local users. Postfix initially sets this to a "retry" error code, which means that a errantly typed local username in a mail will literally bounce forever. Get a few of those going, and you can really peg the CPU. Jon Carnes On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 02:57, Rikard Florin wrote: > Hi, > > > Barry Warsaw did make a change in the CVS a short while ago to help deal > > with this class of problem. Take a look at: > > http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/mailman/mailman/Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py > > I'm running mailman 2.1.2 and having serious problems with CPU usage, is > there any chance to have a patch for the above CVS changes or something? > I don't know if it's the solution to my problems, but right now mailman > is eating about 80-90% of my CPU time and I have to try something. > > I'm not running any huge lists which would require heavy archiving or > anything so the above mentioned problem seemed like a possibility, but if > someone has got a better suggestion I'm all ears... :) > > my setup: python 2.3, postfix, mailman 2.1.2, Mac OS X 10.3 DP > > cheers, > rikard > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] not able to access admin web interface
Check for lock files on the server. If you find any for that list, delete them and then try to login to the list. Good Luck On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 05:19, Jeroen Valcke wrote: > Hello, > > Small glitch here. For one specific list I'm not able to access the > online admin interface. I type the password and it just sits there. > > Logging in on other lists works fine. I even tried several browsers. > The machine has a quite heavy load for the moment, but other list logins > seem to work fine. > > Any ideas? > > -Jeroen- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] Re: Flat Threads when postingusingOutlook/Exchange clients
To allow a Mail-client to Thread email, it puts a special header line in the email. When a similar Mail-client responds, it recognizes the special header and maintains that special header in any response. Sometimes a Mail-client adds it's own header that specifically says: In response to Message-x. The problem is that different Mail-clients use different headers for determining if a mail is a response or not. Eudora is very robust in handling various different "standards", and often can thread mail fairly well. On the other hand, Outlook is fairly poor and doesn't even recognize other MS threading "standards" - or for that matter the threading "standards" of other versions of Outlook. Outlook also wipes out any identifying header information when it creates the header for a responding message. I hope that explains why most Admins treat threading email in Outlook as a joke. I'm not aware of a IEEE standard's RFC that covers the threading of email. I'm sure there is one, but the major makers of email clients seem to be ignoring it. Jon Carnes On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 20:36, jsmith wrote: > I have posted over and over that this issue is not just Outlook or MS > related. I have the same issue with headers and footers regardless of > what email client is used. I have 2.1.2 on a freebsd 4.7 machine with > sendmail. My mac users send to the list, Eudora users, outlook and all > I have tried. Same problem. > > I am not saying its not more prevalent in outlook. But it is happening > with other programs. And I know everyone will be quick to say, don't > use sendmail, or you must have installed it wrong. > > I have posted the problem here before and no one has responded with > anything close to a resolution. I was told by someone that it was being > address in the next version. So I am waiting. > > There doesn't seem to be nothing else I can do. > > As far as the statement to use a MUA that doesn't suck. You need to > crawl out of the 18th century. MS has had the mail client world tied up > for a long time, and gains more everyday. I personally don't like > Outlook in a pop3 environment. But in an exchange environment protected > by a proper firewall there is only a few that compare for collaboration > and global use. But then again, I come from an environment that has > servers all over the world synchronizing the GAL and shared objects > every night. Not too many other options for global address books. > There are some. But not many. > > My little 2 cents > > > -Original Message- > From: Will Yardley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 4:53 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Flat Threads when posting > usingOutlook/Exchange clients > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 03:56:59PM -0700, Roy Santos wrote: > > > I have seen a few postings regarding problems getting > > flat threads while posting using Outlook clients. See > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg03011.html. > > But what I haven't seen is an answer on how or what > > needs adjusting in MS for making proper threading that > > Netscape, Eudora, Mozilla, etc. > > What needs adjusting? Using an MUA which doesn't suck I think some > versions of Outlook do generate the proper headers, but I imagine it's > based on version #, as opposed to being a configurable setting. The Mac > version (which is much better behaved in general) does. > > > Is there a setting in the Defaults.py or other place to use "Subject" > > instead of "In-Reply-To" or "References"? > > I'm pretty sure there isn't. A lot of MUAs can do this; it probably > wouldn't be a bad idea, but could cause unexpected problems (like when > people send messages to the list with generic subject lines). -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] problems with web archive (second email)
E, search the archives you will find at least one patch there that does this - it's probably up on the SourceForge site. You can also use grep to scan through the ~mailman/Mailman/archiver/.. files to find where the tags are located. I did this once myself in the way long back. It wasn't as easy a hack as I thought it was going to be, but I had it done (after a lot of trial and error) in about 8 hours. Figuring out where to put those darn 's and 's was trickier than I thought - or maybe I was just younger and more optimistic. Good Luck - Jon Carnes On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 20:06, E M Recio wrote: > Hi, > > I am still wondering if anyone out there has a clue as to where I could > find the patch which removes the tags from the web archives. The > problem is that there is always line which is too long, it needs to be > wrapped but the web archive tool in mailman doesn't do it. > > ~E > > "There may still be two superpowers on the planet: the United States > and world public opinion." -- Patrick E. Tyler > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Question About List subscription.
Look in the FAQ (I believe 3.14). It has a lot of helpful suggestions. Also, check out your /var/log/maillog file to see if the mail is being picked up. By default the Sendmail on RH 7.2 is turned off from accepting connections from localhost. Jon Carnes On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 15:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I posted this message earlier, but except from one helpful person that > responded through private email, I didn't see any suggestions. > > I set up mailman with no problems, created the first list. > > Tried subscribing myself from another email address, I still don't see > any confirmation emails, nor the email address listed in the member > list, nor held in approval/moderation queue. > > Mailman service is running. > > I tried another email address that I have and subscribed through the web > interface again. > It's been 48 Hrs and as a list admin I didn't receive the notification > (I set up the list to notify admin immediately), nor a confirmation > request, and I don't see that in held messages too. > > Any suggestions where should I look for troubleshooting? > > My current configuration is. > > Red Hat Linux 7.2. > Python v2.1 > Mailman v2.12 > > Thank you. > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow Performance on Mailman, Next Steps?
On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 14:45, Eric Miller wrote: > Dear all, > > We moved our mailman list over from yahoo to my server this > week. No a painless move but it went OK. > (This is some pretty good software!) > > My big issue is performance. Our list has 2300 subscribers and > we do about 20 to 50 e-mails a day, nothing too big. > > Messages were taking 3 to 4 hours to be sent. I went through > the FAQ on performance and have done the following to get down > to 30 to 90 minutes: > > 1: Put in a DNS server on my machine with caching (pdnsd) > 2: Used the following mailman settings: > DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' > SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 3 > SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = 100 > 3: Turned off the logging > Some folks will tell you to set SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 500 but I've found for my servers running Sendmail that 5 (or as high as 10) is the fastest value. Sendmail - as shipped by most generic distributors of Linux - is not optimized for speed. It is optimized to run using the lowest amount of resources so that it can run well on a POC computer pressed into service as a server. You have a *real* server so resources are not a concern. If what you want is speed, then you should apply some or all of the optimizations that I've published to the list in the past. You can also find them on the last page of my Mailserver Class notes: http://www.trilug.org/~jonc/mailserver A lot of folks have written me with feed back on their speed increases. If you do the tweaks I would like to hear your comments as well - both the good and the bad. Take care - Jon Carnes > Some other facts: > > a: I'm running RedHat 9 Linux > b: We are getting lots of bounces: 258 have been put on hold because they >went over their bounce score > c: I'm using a 2+GHz AMD machine. Lots of horse power and it seems like >I'm not using much. CPU is sitting at between 5% and 10% > > > So, my obvious questions are: > > I: Any suggestions on my mm_cfg.py settings? > II: Anything else you can recommend? > III: My assumption is that since I'm using SMTPDirect it doesn't > matter if I use the default stuff that comes with Redhat or > should I load something better? > IV: Is it the bounces that are my problem? > > Thank you in advance for any advice! > > Eric > > > - > Eric Miller -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] footers
On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 13:51, CodyG wrote: > You're right! It is something in the mail client that isn't showing the > footers! Cause for sure they are there in the message source. (I should have > checked.) > > So, what is the use of footers if someone using OE defaults doesn't see > them? But how could it be a mailer issue, when the footers are showing up > just fine on my mail from Mailman-Users? > > Thanks for any help. The mail from this list is all text based. The next release of Mailman will make some further advances in helping to get the footer to show up in HTML or MIME encoded mail. If you don't want to restrict folks to text only email, then you can also simply send out a monthly note that emphasizes the info that would have appeared in the footer. Good luck - Jon Carnes. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman python process out of control 2.1.2
Sounds like you are using a default install of Procmail as the MTA (you didn't include that information in your mail). Check the procmail main configuration file and see how it treats local undefined users... Jon Carnes On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 14:01, Benjamin Ash wrote: > Hi, > > It looks like a mailman 2.1.2 process has been running for days, using > 99% of the cpu. > > I have restarted the mailman qrunner serveral times, but the python > process jumps up immediately to 99%. > > Any ideas what could be causing this, I am running python 2.2.3, note it > was doing the same thing under python 2.1.x > > Thanks, > > bash > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] footers
Look at the source text of the messages coming from your list (look at the properties and choose look at the whole message). Is the footer contained in the source, but simply not shown by your Email Client? Jon Carnes On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 12:59, CodyG wrote: > I'm just getting started with Mailman (or any mailing list like this) and I have a > few questions. > > Everything seems to be working fine except there are no footers in any messages > coming from the list. The following is the default in the footer option. Do I > leave it alone? Or must I do something with it? I read the 2.2.6.2 String > Formatting Operations , but that wasn't too helpful either. Anyways, there are no > footers in any of the messages. What am I missing? > > ___ > %(real_name)s mailing list > %(real_name)[EMAIL PROTECTED](host_name)s > %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] Feature Request - Was RE: Subscriber List?
On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 20:13, Phil Iovino wrote: > Yeah I saw that. Is there any way to make it available to the list owner > only? I don't want any subscriber to access it for obvious reasons. > I don't think so, but it would be an interesting feature request. > > -Original Message- > > From: Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 5:24 PM > > To: Phil Iovino > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature Request - Was RE: > > Subscriber List? > > > > > > Check out the list-member dump that is a part of the list's "listinfo" > > page. This is available if turned on by the list admin. > > > > On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 16:53, Phil Iovino wrote: > > > Details below. Thanks! -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature Request - Was RE: Subscriber List?
Check out the list-member dump that is a part of the list's "listinfo" page. This is available if turned on by the list admin. On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 16:53, Phil Iovino wrote: > Details below. Thanks! > > > -Original Message- > > From: Phil Iovino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 11:52 AM > > To: 'Dan Wright US2002021042' > > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Subscriber List? > > > > > > I've had a few replies about this and need to clarify my > > question. I know that command exists with shell access. Is > > there a way for a list owner to do it through their web > > interface? If not, is there a script that can do it? > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Dan Wright US2002021042 > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 8:14 PM > > > To: Phil Iovino > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscriber List? > > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > >From the commandline interface > > > > > > ~/mailman/bin/list_members > > > > > > On Tue, 2003-05-27 at 12:24, Phil Iovino wrote: > > > Is there any way to get a full subscriber list of a given > > > list without > > > having to click on every letter in the alphabet in the admin? > > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] DNS/Sendmail issue upon install
You either have not put the aliases (printed out when you created the list) into /etc/aliases -or- you have not run newaliases after editing the /etc/aliases file. You can check out FAQ 3.14 which does a fairly good job of covering most post-install issues with Mailman version 2.0 Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Good Luck - Jon Carnes On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 17:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Greetings everyone! > > I am running mailman-2.0 on Redhat Linux 7.3. > > I have successfully installed mailman onto my server. I have sucessfully > added an admin and a few users through the web interface to a test list. > Unfortunately, when I try to send an email on the list, I get this: > > The original message was received at Thu, 29 May 2003 14:39:39 -0700 > from [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > (reason: 550 5.1.1 User unknown) > >- Transcript of session follows - > 550 5.1.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown > > Mailman is sending mail out to users who subscribe, but the list itself is > not operational. Is there a particular default setting I should look at? > > Thanks! > Colleen -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Weird lock error
On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 16:53, William R. Dickson wrote: > At this point, man, I'll show you my underwear. Or rather not, which > would be the more likely request: > > catalpa# cd /usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/archives/public > catalpa# ls -l > total 10 > drwxrwxrwx 9 mailman mailman 1024 May 24 2001 clasproject-list > drwxrwxrwx 2 mailman mailman 512 Jul 5 2000 clasproject-list.mbox > drwxrwxrwx 36 mailman mailman 3072 Mar 1 03:27 ncihc-list > drwxrwxrwx 2 mailman mailman 512 Jul 4 2000 ncihc-list.mbox > > catalpa# cd ../private > catalpa# ls -l > total 10 > drwxrwxrwx 9 mailman mailman 1024 May 24 2001 clasproject-list > drwxrwxrwx 2 mailman mailman 512 Jul 5 2000 clasproject-list.mbox > drwxrwxrwx 38 mailman mailman 3072 May 6 03:27 ncihc-list > drwxrwxrwx 2 mailman mailman 512 Jul 4 2000 ncihc-list.mbox > > -Bill > On all my installs, the ~mailman/archives/public/.. files are links pointing to the ~mailman/archives/private/.. files. Yours appear to be standalone directories. Here is an example from a working test server I keep: [EMAIL PROTECTED] archives]# ls -l private total 40 drwxrwsr-x2 mailman mailman 4096 Apr 11 10:50 mailman/ drwxrwsr-x2 mailman mailman 4096 Apr 11 10:50 mailman.mbox/ drwxrwsr-x4 apache mailman 4096 May 16 03:27 test1/ drwxrwsr-x2 apache mailman 4096 Apr 11 13:54 test1.mbox/ drwxrwsr-x2 apache mailman 4096 Apr 11 16:10 test2/ drwxrwsr-x2 apache mailman 4096 Apr 11 16:10 test2.mbox/ drwxrwsr-x2 apache mailman 4096 Apr 11 16:19 test3/ drwxrwsr-x2 apache mailman 4096 Apr 11 16:19 test3.mbox/ drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 May 4 14:26 test_old/ drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 May 4 14:26 test_old.mbox/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] archives]# ls -l public total 0 lrwxrwxrwx1 mailman mailman43 Apr 11 10:50 mailman -> /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/mailman/ lrwxrwxrwx1 mailman mailman48 Apr 11 10:50 mailman.mbox -> /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/mailman.mbox/ lrwxrwxrwx1 apache mailman41 Apr 11 11:18 test1 -> /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/test1/ lrwxrwxrwx1 apache mailman46 Apr 11 11:18 test1.mbox -> /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/test1.mbox/ lrwxrwxrwx1 apache mailman41 Apr 11 16:10 test2 -> /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/test2/ lrwxrwxrwx1 apache mailman46 Apr 11 16:10 test2.mbox -> /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/test2.mbox/ lrwxrwxrwx1 apache mailman41 Apr 11 16:19 test3 -> /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/test3/ lrwxrwxrwx1 apache mailman46 Apr 11 16:19 test3.mbox -> /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/test3.mbox/ lrwxrwxrwx1 root mailman44 May 4 14:26 test_old -> /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/test_old/ lrwxrwxrwx1 root mailman49 May 4 14:26 test_old.mbox -> /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/test_old.mbox/ Try moving (or deleting) the public directories and then creating links to the private directories... Hey its a shot, and the original error seem to anticipate a link rather than a directory. Good Luck - Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Weird lock error
Just for fun, can you show us the output of: ls -l /usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/archives/public ls -l /usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/archives/private On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 14:06, William R. Dickson wrote: > Hurm -- I just chmodded the entire archives directory to 777, and the > error persists. This has me totally stumped. > > -Bill > > On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 04:16 PM, William R. Dickson wrote: -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] mailman cron error
On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 16:26, Larry Rosenman wrote: > --On Thursday, May 29, 2003 16:25:35 -0400 Adam Lipson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > yes I can telnet to port on 119 (they are the same machine by the way) > > and one list works with the news interface yet the other does not. > connection refused says it's not getting there... > > (or asking on a different port...) > > LER > Check for a typo on the list that is NOT working. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop subscriptions to a group
On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 10:27, Santosh Jerome-A17737 wrote: > Hello, > Can somebody let me know how to disable subscription by user's to a group. > > The archive server is down. , I have not been lucky enough to dig out info from the > FAQ's > > > Regards > Jerome > Go into the web-admin for the group and modify the subscription settings, change it to one of the settings that requires Admin approval. Good Luck - Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature Request?
On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 10:18, Phil Iovino wrote: > Where/to whom can I submit a feature request? The preferred site is http://sourceforge.net/projects/mailman/ You can also make requests on either this list or the Dev list. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] approving / editing messages in theadministrative database queue
On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 03:17, Kenneth Bruyninckx wrote: > Hello, > > > This one had got me baffled and after having checked both archives and > available documentation I need your help on this. > > I have, like anybody else I'm sure, from time to time some bounces on the > list. > These bounces are caused by the usual things like "admin requests", > "non-member submission" and "message longer than x Kb". > > Now my problem is with the last type. I have set a limit of 10 Kb for a > single message as some people just hit reply on a digest and do not remove > the previous discussions :-( > So I get this message in the administrative database awaiting my action. Now > the action needed is to "trim"/delete part of the mail. > > 1) why is it not possible to "edit" the message from within the webpages, > because that is where I "look" at them in the first place > There is a patch that lets you edit the message from within the web page. By default you cannot do this, because the whole message may not be displayed. Look in your mm_cfg.py file and you will see some settings that put limits on the amount of a message that is stored for review purposes. You can set this so that it displays the whole message (which you need to do if you apply the patch mentioned above). # how many bytes of a held message post should be # displayed in the admindb web page? Use a negative # number to indicate the entire message, regardless # of size (though this will slow down rendering # those pages). ADMINDB_PAGE_TEXT_LIMIT = 4096 You can edit the held messages (without using a patch or messing with the page text limit) if you have access to the command line on the server. Add the following section to your mm_cfg.py file: # Should held messages be saved on disk as Python # pickles or as plain text? The former is more # efficient since we don't need to go through the # parse/generate roundtrip each time, but the # latter might be preferred if you want to edit # the held message on disk. #HOLD_MESSAGES_AS_PICKLES = 1 HOLD_MESSAGES_AS_PICKLES = 0 The held messages will now be saved in text files and can be found in: ~mailman/data/.. Pick your favorite command line editor, edit the held-msg- file, then approve the message via the web (note the web admin will not reflect the changes you have made in the held message). HtH - Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] bin/mailmanctl start
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 20:16, Vince LaMonica wrote: > Actually, I also did a 9.1 from scratch. I had 8.2, backed up all my > important data, and did an 'install' of 9.1, repartitioning my drives > at the same time. I also avoid doing 'upgrade' installs for the very > same reason [oddities creep in]. I had, at one point, also installed > Ximian Gnome which gave me even more reason to do a fresh install of > 9.1. I did however restore my /home/mailman directory [which is where, > on 8.2, i had mailman installed]. I was thinking that all I needed to > do was restore my mailman user's crontab entries and all would be ok > [since all of mailman's executables are in /home/mailman]. When mailman > didn't want to start, that's when I went to go grab 2.1.1 and found > that 2.1.2 was available. Grabbed that, installed it [backing up > /home/mailman first] a few different times - installed it with my old > lists in place, installed it in a /home/mailman2 directory [empty], > etc. I read the mailman archives and followed your advice about > installing a bunch of python-related RPMs, and even that didn't work. I > finally decided to use the source. > Then the only difference is that you used an upgraded Mailman install, and I installed a new one then moved my lists over. I'll bet the problem was in the initialization of the old databases. When upgrading Mailman tries to use the old modules to move the data up to the new formats. The RPM installs must not load all of the older modules called by the earlier Mailman. Curiouser and curiouser... It would be cool to know what modules were missing. Take care - Jon -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] bin/mailmanctl start
Cool. The difference between our installs seems to be that I installed MDK9.1 from scratch. I keep a separate /home partition to let me do that easily - as I don't like the bugs that sometimes creep in via upgrades. Glad to hear you got it going. Installing Python from source makes plenty of sense. Jon On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 18:26, Vince LaMonica wrote: > On Sunday, May 25, 2003, at 09:05 AM, Jon Carnes wrote: > > > Try installing every rpm from your distribution that has "python" in > > it. For Mandrake 9.1 I posted a message last month that pointed to all > > the rpm's that needed to be loaded. Mdk 9.0 probably has similar > > requirements. > > FWIW, I had the same problem [mdk 9.1, mailman 2.1.2]. I was not able > to get mailmanctl to run using the RPMs listed in that e.mail. I have > python installed via RPM, and that is/was my problem. I did not remove > the python [2.2.2] RPM, since it would break other stuff, however, i > simply compiled python from source, installing it into /usr/local/bin, > and then made sure that when I compiled Mailman, I pointed it to the > non-RPM install of python 2.2.2. I also changed my mm_cfg.py to make > sure it uses the /usr/local/bin version of python. > > Also note, I was on Mandrake 8.2, with Mailman 2.1.1 [source compile]. > When I upgraded to 9.1, I decided to also upgrade to 2.1.2 of mailman. > After the initial problem, I removed all traces of mailman 2.1.2 and > tried installing 2.1.1 on my 9.1 box, and it failed for the same reason. > > Compiling python from source was quite simple, as the only thing one > needs to make sure of is that it will be built in a /usr/local/* > directory structure so that it doesn't break any applications in > Mandrake 9.1 that need the python RPM install. > > HTH, > > /vjl/ > -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] set up a news server to work with mailman
I've done this a couple of times for some ISP's. You have to install a News server like innd. The setup and configuration of innd is beyond the scope of this list. Once it is setup though, you can access the News server just like any other News server on the internet. Good Luck - Jon Carnes On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 10:47, Adam Lipson wrote: > Has anyone had any success setting up a news server with mailman. I have been told > by several people that this has been a bit tricky and did not see anything in the > FAQ or a quick search of the archives. I am running mailman 2.0.13 on RH 7.2 and > want to run the news server on the same box and have the messages go both to the > list as well as the news server and messages posted to the news server posted to the > list. > > I know this is possible as it is an option in the web admin interface just curious > if anyone has done this and has any advice? > > Thanks, > Adam > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Weird lock error
Looks like a permissions problem in the archives: /usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/archives/public/ncihc-list On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 17:32, William R. Dickson wrote: > At least, it looks weird to me. No lockfiles are present. I once had > something like this happen with a corrupt .msg file, but I tried > removing all files from the qfiles directory, and the problem recurs > with all new mail. > > This began after moving the lists to a new server, running FreeBSD 4.8 > rather than 4.4, and Python 2.2.2. I have multiple Mailman > installations so I can handle virtual domains (one installation per > domain, allows me to have both "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"); I'm reluctant to upgrade to 2.1.2 until I figure > out how the new qrunner scheme is going to work with this setup. Only > one of the domains seems to have this problem; the rest are working > fine. I've tried reinstalling mailman for this domain, removing > lockfiles, removing queue files, removing the archives and creating a > new directory, checked permissions on the directories. Any thoughts? > > Thanks, > > -Bill > > > May 28 14:24:05 2003 (50423) Delivery exception: > May 28 14:24:06 2003 (50423) Traceback (most recent call last): >File > "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py", > line > 82, in do_pipeline > func(mlist, msg, msgdata) >File > "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", > line > 77, in process > mlist.Lock() >File "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/Mailman/MailList.py", line > 1339, in L > ock > self.__lock.lock(timeout) >File "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/Mailman/LockFile.py", line > 266, in lo > ck > raise AlreadyLockedError > AlreadyLockedError > > May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): Traceback (most recent call last): > May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): File > "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/ > cron/qrunner", line 283, in ? > May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): kids = main(lock) > May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): File > "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/ > cron/qrunner", line 264, in main > May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): mlist.Save() > May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): File > "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/ > Mailman/MailList.py", line 861, in Save > May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): self.CheckHTMLArchiveDir() > May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): File > "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/ > Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 253, in CheckHTMLArchiveDir > May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): breaklink(pubdir) > May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): File > "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/ > Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 50, in breaklink > May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): os.unlink(link) > May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): OSError : [Errno 1] Operation not > permitte > d: '/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/archives/public/ncihc-list' -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Stripping
I would suspect that your problem lays elsewhere. You might want to capture the messages as they flying about in their queues and try to isolate the process that is munging the messages. Could it be a problem with differing character sets? In any case, I haven't seen this reported as a problem for any version of Mailman version 2.1.x Good Luck On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 09:34, jsmith wrote: > Hello, > > > > I have Mailman 2.1.1 running with sendmail an freebsd 4.7 > > > > I have recently ran into a problem with Mailman stripping all text codes > and making the post nothing but jumbled text without sentences. I do > not have Mailman converting HTML to Plain Text. Although I have tried > that as well with no real success. > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Joe > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] qrunner looping on confirm message
Make sure you local MTA correctly identifies the local user as bogus. Postfix by default does not correctly identify a user as being missing and instead sends a lesser error indicating that the user is just temporarily unavailable. Modify your MTA to report the bogus user correctly, then Mailman will not loop on that error. A check is being added to the next version so this will not be a problem in the future (though it is not Mailman's error). Jon Carnes On Tue, 2003-05-27 at 17:22, Gerald Combs wrote: > I recently upgraded from Mailman 2.0.8 to 2.1.2. Since then I've run into > a wierd problem where qrunner appears to be looping on a message in the > "out" queue. The message itself is a subscription confirmation from a > nonexistent local user; apparently someone tried to subscribe and forgot > to add the domain to their email address. > > The only fix I've found so far is to manually stop qrunner, remove the > offending .db and .pck file, and restart qrunner. > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] installation instructions?
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 10:19, Raquel Rice wrote: > On Tue, 27 May 2003 14:56:03 -0700 > George Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Your Documentation Overview page > > (http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/docs.html) > > says that the Site Administrators Documentation page > > (http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/site.html) > > > > contains installation instructions. I couldn't find them. Where > > are the installation instructions? > > > > Installation instructions are included in the source tarball. > > -- > Raquel For a bit of helping hand here is a web-site with the steps laid out: http://www.linux-sxs.org/internet_serving/mailman.html -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Excessive cpu usage
In some cases this problem is caused by the way that the MTA handles local deliveries (where there is a problem with the local user). In postfix for example, the default install has local bounces mis-identified so that Mailman will try, try again to deliver to a bogus local user address. Nothing shows up in the logs, since the MTA indicates that the user is legal, just not currently available. I suggest that you-all look in the MTA log files to see if there are multiple failed deliveries to a local user. Barry has a work-around for this problem that will be included in the next release. Jon Carnes On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 13:20, Ryan K. Brooks wrote: > Odd. I have the same problem! (postfix here, and it's fine) > > -R > > Arnar Birgisson wrote: > > >Something of the sort yes.. if I stop mailman, there is one message in > >the out queue. However, using dumpdb reveals that this is just a normal > > > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Basic questions
As far as I know this is not yet implemented, but you might want to ask on the Mailman-dev list. I think someone is playing with that currently. I suspect that the code base for that is a moving target. Good Luck. Remember that patience can be very rewarding. On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 09:29, Bruno António wrote: > Hi there, > > Maybe this is a strange question or an unanswareble one. > Is there a way (by a module or somthing) of using LDAP with > MAilman, for instances instead of mailman having is own autentication it > would get it from the LDAP tree ??? > > If there is a way, please let me know. Thanks for the help. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Anyone know a good email address managementutility?
Well Mailman gives you the choice of using the Web or the command lines. What other resource were you thinking of using? I've setup some systems (database driven) that sync with each other via the command line every few minutes. It works nice - but will work nicer once the Database connector is in place and working (proposed, but not yet implemented). Jon Carnes On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 09:24, Henry Kim wrote: > I'd like to manage my email addresses outside of > Mailman. I want to keep track of names, remove > duplicates, etc. Anyone know a good cheap or free > utility to manage this? > > = > Henry Kim > (from his travelling email address) > > __ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Need to change the machine name ... what do Ihave to do?
You'll need to make changes in ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py Your existing lists will all have to be modified to use the new address. If you're using versino 2.1.x then you need to use the fix_url.py script on each list (the archives has a donated script that does this for you automagically). If you're using version 2.0.x then you can simply go into the web-config for each list and make the change on the General Options page. Good Luck - Jon Carnes On Tue, 2003-05-27 at 21:45, Paul Schumacher wrote: > I have to change the name of my server from foo.foo1.foo2.foo3.edu to foo4.foo5.edu. > ( the ip will remain the same) > > What do I have to change in mailman? > > thanks, > > Paul Schumacher > Winona State University > > > - > Do you Yahoo!? > Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] web page's problems again
Well first of all, there was not need to re-start the webserver. Were the webpages working previously? And after the re-start, now they don't? That being the case, did you much with the websever configuration? You shouldn't have. If you are running apache you should have something like this in your /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf file: # # httpd configuration settings for use with mailman. # ScriptAlias /mailman/ /var/mailman/cgi-bin/ Alias /pipermail/ /var/mailman/archives/public/ Options +FollowSymlinks # # Uncomment the following line, replacing www.example.com # with your server's name, to redirect queries to /mailman # to the listinfo page (recommended). # RedirectMatch /mailman[/]*$ http://www.example.com/mailman/listinfo Make sure your webserver is actually running! Best of Luck - Jon Carnes On Sat, 2003-04-12 at 20:54, Danny moss wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I am after some help again with my web pages I have just added a second > list to my system managed by one of my users I user newlist and put the > new names in the alias file ran newaliases .. > then restarted httpd but it has stopped my http server and I dont have > any new pages for the new list. > is there anything else I have missed, that I should have don't for the > new list, the email part is working fine just no web pages .. > My system is > Redhat 8.0 > mailman 2.0.13-3 > sendmail > mailman dir is > /var/mailman > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] problem after upgrading to 2.1
I think the easiest way to do this is to use a hex editor on the config.pck file for the list and modify the bogus email address so that it matches something simple. Then delete the simple email address. Good Luck - Jon Carnes On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 21:53, Scott R. Every wrote: > ok, so i think i have found the/a problem email address: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > when i try to delete it i get the following: > ./remove_members overtons_html "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > No such member: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > any ideas how to delete a bogus email like this? > > thanks in advance. > > s > > --On Wednesday, February 5, 2003 11:40 PM -0500 Jon Carnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Have you tried a ~mailman/bin/dumpdb on the config.pck for the list. It > > would dump out the users - multiple times: once for language, once for > > members, once for passwords, and once for user options. > > > > You might even be able to pin-point the problem point. > > > > Good Luck - Jon Carnes > > > > On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 23:10, Scott R. Every wrote: > >> > >> > >> --On Wednesday, February 5, 2003 10:41 PM -0500 Jon Carnes > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > I suggest that you need to check the configuration of the file > >> > (~mailman/bin/check_db). I believe the error indicates that while > >> > >> this was done for both the original db and the newly imported db created > >> from the list_members program in 2.0.x. Both checked out OK. > >> > >> > reading the config.pck file (and dumping out the member names) that it > >> > found values that are not Ascii. > >> > >> How would one go about tracking this down? i cannot really view the > >> list with the list_member tool and the web access is far too slow to be > >> of use. > >> > >> any python wizards out there who could shed more light on the error > >> below? > >> > >> > >> > > >> > The list is large enough that you could have had a problem in the > >> > upgrade. > >> > > >> > Good Luck - Jon Carnes > >> > >> Thanks for the advice. > >> > >> s > >> > >> > > >> > On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 11:59, Scott R. Every wrote: > >> >> After upgrading, I am now getting the following error using > >> >> list_members: Traceback (most recent call last): > >> >> File "./list_members", line 232, in ? > >> >> main() > >> >> File "./list_members", line 207, in main > >> >> s = formataddr((name, addr)).encode(enc, 'replace') > >> >> UnicodeError: ASCII decoding error: ordinal not in range(128) > >> >> > >> >> This happens whether I use the existing config.db file or if I use > >> >> list_members from 2.0.x to dump all the users, then use add_members to > >> >> add them to a new list. Again, list_members works as expected under > >> >> 2.0.x, but not under 2.1. Has anyone seen this before? Does anyone > >> >> know of any workarounds? > >> >> > >> >> I need list_members to be working for arbitrary list splitting. > >> >> > >> >> The list has almost 600k members which may be causing the problem, but > >> >> it worked fine in 2.0.x. Any help would be appreciated. > >> >> > >> >> Thanks > >> >> > >> >> s > >> >> > >> >> Scott R. Every mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> Blast Inc. http://www.blast.com > >> >> 1-800-24-BLAST ext 543 > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Mailman-Users mailing list > >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > >> >> Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > >> >> Searchable Archives: > >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > >> >> > >> >> This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at > >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] Do I need an MX Record
In DNS you would have something like: lists.mlsnet.com.A 216.216.23.43 MX 10 lists.mlsnet.com MX 100 mail.mlsnet.com In this scenario all mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will be delivered to lists.mlsnet.com. If that server does not respond then the mail will be queued up on your main mail server: mail.mlsnet.com This assumes that you can setup the other mail server to act as a secondary. If not, then just leave it off. And "yes" virginia, you *do* need an MX record. If you don't have an MX record then any mail to lists.mlsnet.com will be dumped out to your main mail server (using your domains MX record). You could setup some internal routes on that server to shuffle mail over to lists.mlsnet.com, but that would be counter to your stated intention of moving the load away from the main mail server. Jon Carnes Sendmail/DNS guru On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 12:25, Sullivan, John wrote: > In my network I have a corporate mail server set up that handles all the > email for mlsnet.com > > I have setup the RedHat box so I can send out email to newsletter > subscribers - I didn't want to put the heavy load on my corporate mail > server. > > The RedHat box has sendmail on it and should be the box that handles emails > for lists.mlsnet.com (incoming should be delivered to this box) > Also the IP for this box is the 12.105.18.209 address referenced below. > > I have an A record setup for lists.mlsnet.com - I do not have an MX record > setup for it though. > > How do I set the box up so it handles all email sent to @lists.mlsnet.com? > > Thanks for your help.. > > -Original Message- > From: Dallas Bethune [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:21 PM > To: Sullivan, John > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Do I need an MX Record > > > From the last error there, it looks like your mail server is trying to > deliver mail for lists.mlsnet.com to an smtp server at 12.105.18.209. > I don't know what server that is, but it needs to be running an some > sort of smtp server to accept email. If that is not where the email > should be going, then an MX record may be appropriate to point it to > the appropriate location. > > Dallas > > > On Friday, March 28, 2003, at 08:56 am, Sullivan, John wrote: > > > Hi all - I am having some problems sending out emails to my lists. > > > > > > > > I have Red Hat 8.0 > > > > Sendmail > > > > MailMan 2.0.1 > > > > > > > > I have a test lists set up with test users. > > > > > > > > When a user subscribes to the list they get a confirmation from the > > mailman > > server but when they reply there email seems to just get lost. > > > > When I send out an email to the list nothing gets delivered. > > > > My server name is lists.mlsnet.com and my list is called 90minutes and > > I > > should be able to send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to send an email to all of the > > subscribers. > > > > > > > > Here is some log errors from maillog file: > > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 28 11:48:21 localhost sendmail[10484]: h2SGmKFc010484: from=root, > > size=388, class=0, nrcpts=1, > > msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=localhost > > [[UNIX: > > localhost]] > > > > > > Mar 28 11:48:22 localhost sendmail[10486]: h2SGmLjh010486: > > from=< > > <http://lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/ > > compose?curmbox=F5&a=fa > > f76a38f4023445548c138e0ad20419&mailto=1&[EMAIL PROTECTED]&m > > sg=MS > > G1048870350.86&start=1072965&len=2281&src=&type=x> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=577, class=0, nrcpts=1, > > msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP, > > daemon=MTA, > > relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] > > > > > > Mar 28 11:48:22 localhost sendmail[10484]: h2SGmKFc010484: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:02, > > xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=relay, pri=30387, relay=localhost.mlsnet.com. > > [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (h2SGmLjh010486 Message accepted for > > delivery) > > > > > > Mar 28 11:49:22 localhost sendmail[10488]: h2SGmLjh010486: > > to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ctladdr=< > > <http://lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/ > > compose?curmbox=F5&a=fa > > f76a38f4023445548c138e0ad20419&mailto=1&[EMAIL PROTECTED]&m > > sg=MS > > G1048870350.86&start=1072965&le
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem
First off, I'm not a big fan of Qmail (ask me why if you want to hear Jon rant). That being said, I know it has some automated way of working with Mailman. You may have set this up, but it's not working I've seen a few fixes for this cross the archives so you can do a search there. It may help. Alternately, you can simply define the mailman aliases in your /etc/aliases file. Run "newmail" afterwards - assuming that qmail is at least partially Sendmail compliant or it would break a lot of Linux servers. Hope this is helpful, Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: "Ciappei Alessandro (las3r)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 12:32 PM Subject: [Mailman-Users] Problem > Hi all, > > I have a problem with mailman. > > I run qmail server with vpopmail > and i compile mailman-2.1.1 in same server > > i create a list and i subscribe it > > when i post a mail to the list, it's come back with this error > > Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail.musichat.net. > I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. > This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. vpopmail (#5.1.1) > > --- Below this line is a copy of the message. > > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Received: (qmail 12084 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2003 17:28:48 - > Received: from vsmtp3.tin.it (HELO smtp3.cp.tin.it) (212.216.176.223) >by 0 with SMTP; 29 Mar 2003 17:28:48 - > Received: from alex-ehdp14futz.musichat.net (80.116.176.111) by > smtp3.cp.tin.it (6.5.033) > id 3E48CE9F01202323 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 > 18:23:55 +0100 > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mail.musichat.net (Unverified) > X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 > Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 18:27:10 +0100 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: "Ciappei Alessandro (las3r)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: prova > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > prova > > > > some one can help me? > > thx a lot > > Regards > > ALex > > > -- --- > Chi riceve il presente messaggio e` tenuto a verificare se lo stesso non gli > sia pervenuto per errore. In tal caso e` pregato di avvisare immediatamente > il mittente e, tenuto conto delle responsabilita` connesse all'indebito > utilizzo e/o divulgazione del messaggio e/o delle informazioni in esso > contenute, voglia cancellare l'originale e distruggere le varie copie o > stampe. > > The receiver of this message is required to check if he/she has received it > erroneously. If so, the receiver is requested to immediately inform the > sender and - in consideration of the responsibilities arising from undue use > and/or disclosure of the message and/or the information contained therein - > destroy the original message and any copy or printout thereof. > -- --- > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mass user edit
There is actually such a script in the archives. BTW: you can set the number of users displayed on each web page. I set my default to 100 and jack it up to a 1000 for some lists. I can use ctl-F much faster than I can page through the lists. Good Luck - Original Message - From: "Marc Britten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:26 AM Subject: [Mailman-Users] mass user edit > Hi, > > I'm looking for a way to modify about 458 users really quick. > > in the middle of moving servers something got messed up and mailman > checked all users to nomail. > > now hand clicking 30 users per page doesn't sound like fun. Is there a > script out there for cli modifications to users? > > thanks, > > yugami > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] question
You can include an option from the Web-Admin: replies go to explicit address Other than that, you can use your MTA to CYA. This is easy or hard, depending on what your Mail Transport Authority is. Another option is to hack the code (not a hard hack at all). HtH - Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: "KIRKLEY,BRIAN (HP-USA,ex1)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 3:56 PM Subject: [Mailman-Users] question > I currently have your service via Hostway. I have a question about how to > set up an email. I have a mailmain list created, for [EMAIL PROTECTED] > So, I enter this in the TO field to send out. I would like to know how I > can hide the mailmain list name so people cannot reply to it. > > Kirkley > Hewlett-Packard Company > e-Business IT > 404-648-5862 > www.ecardfile.com/id/kirkley > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Very bad performance (newbie)
cpu utilization is low... What disk sub-system are you using and what is your current processor and memory. I suspect that you are low on available memory and you are seeing a lot of virtual memory swapping (plus you probably have an ide disk subsystem. Just a WAG - but an *educated* WAG ; ) Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: "Damian Coutts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:35 AM Subject: [Mailman-Users] Very bad performance (newbie) > Mailman Users > I have installed mailman on my Redhat Linux 8.0 machine. > I am not sure if it is working because when I start it (mailmanctl > start) the machine suffers a terrible performance degredation. ie. its > response becomes so slow that it is hard to do anything. > I did manage to determine that the CPU utilisation does not seem to be > very high > Can anyone help me? > Damian Coutts > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Name or service not known
I suspect you simply forgot the restart the mailmanctl daemon last time. :-) - Original Message - From: "Marilyn Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Name or service not known > > > On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 17:04, Marilyn Davis wrote: > > > > I'm still pulling out my hair on this one ... > > Remember that I was trying to get my stand-alone test machine to use > my Sendmail command (really exim) instead of SMTPDirect? > > On 22 Mar 2003, Barry Warsaw wrote: > > > > So, in my mm_cfg.py I put: > > > > > > DELIVERY_MODULE = 'Sendmail' > > > > > > but it didn't fix it. > > > > Are you sure SENDMAIL_CMD points to the right executable? > > > > > How can I get it to use sendmail (linked to exim) instead of the > > > SMTPDirect module? > > > > They way you're doing it is the only way, and it ought to work, > > I wish I could report that I figured out the problem here. > > It is fixed but I don't understand it. > > Changing my mm_cfg.py DELIVERY_MODULE to Sendmail didn't work until I > ran it in the debugger. Then it worked outside the debugger too. > > I put it back to SMPTDirect to try to figure out what is happening and > it stopped working again. Putting it back to Sendmail did not fix it, > once again, until I ran it in the debugger. And now it works every > time again. > > I'm new to Python and wanting to become fluent, so I wish I understood > what could be happening. > > I understand that my_module.py gets compiled to my_module.pyc. I'm > wondering what happens with qrunner since it doesn't have a .py or a > .pyc. Is the byte code stored some place? > > Or maybe my brains were attached to all the hairs I pulled out on this > one and I've gone nuts. > > Marilyn > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman
See the FAQ section 3.14 Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py - Original Message - From: "Shakeel Chothai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 10:41 PM Subject: [Mailman-Users] mailman Hi, I wanted to find out where I would go to create new email once I have created my mailing list. Using the mailing list as my group to send out. Right now when I try sending the email to the group, nothing seems to go out. Please help me out ASAP. Regards, MB -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1.5 and Exim 3.6
If you can't get that Exim integration working, you can still simply treat
the Mailman aliases as normal aliases, but you will have to update your
/etc/aliases file for each list. At the very least you will need the
-request alias added.
Good Luck - Jon Carnes
- Original Message -
From: "wiren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "mailman-users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 2:14 AM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1.5 and Exim 3.6
> Dear All
>
>
> I have mailman 2.1.5 and Exim 3.6 under a mixed Debian sistem. I had
> to specifically install the "unstable" packet to have the latest
> mailman version.
>
> Now, I went through the readme.exim file into the documentation and
> made some changes into exim.conf file to update the name of the
> wrapper, which appears to be different from previous versions. This is
> the line I updated:
>
> JB> MAILMAN_WRAP=MAILMAN_HOME/mail/mailman
>
> where formerly instead of mailman the end of this line used to read
> "wrapper" and, in fact, I had started receiveng bouncing messages...
>
> Now the lists are working, I mean if you post mail every subscriber
> gets its copy but it is impossibile to subscribe or to use any other
> alias address of the list.
>
> The readme.exim says that:
>
> JB> Transport for Exim 3
> JB>
> JB>
> JB> Add this to the transports section of your Exim config file,
> JB> i.e. somewhere between the first and second "end" line:
> JB>
> JB> mailman_transport:
> JB> driver = pipe
> JB> command = MAILMAN_WRAP \
> JB> '${if def:local_part_suffix \
> JB> {${sg{$local_part_suffix}{-(\\w+)(\\+.*)?}{\$1}}}
\
> JB> {post}}' \
> JB> $local_part
> JB> current_directory = MAILMAN_HOME
> JB> home_directory = MAILMAN_HOME
> JB> user = MAILMAN_USER
> JB> group = MAILMAN_GROUP
> JB>
> JB> (XXX this is untested by me under Exim 3! Can someone using Exim 3
> JB> please let me know if it works?)
>
> I tried to do this, but it did NOT work. I got no error message, no
> bounce, but simply the mail was not working. The same author of the
> readme says it is untested under exim3...
>
> I googled the net but did not find much info: I just found many docs
> which were obviously related to previous versions of mailman.
>
> Now, is there anyone who has the same configuration of mailman 2.1.5
> and exim 3.6 and could pass me some help? Or would you suggest me to
> update exim too? I would rather not, for I am not a linux hacker, and
> I am still wondering how I could update mailman and have it working
> somehow... Any hint will be appreciated.
>
> Thank you for your attention and your help.
>
>
>
> --
> Salutoni,
> wiren[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> http://www.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=39271
>
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Deleting Messages from Queue
You should upgrade to version 2.0.13 On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 02:09, Thomas Guettler wrote: > Hi! > > There is a email in my queue which has a not existing mailserver in > the recipient address. I deleted the user from the list, but there are > still some mails in the queue. There is a message every ten seconds in > smtp-failures, that the mail can't be sent. > > How can I delete this message from the queue, or even better, how can > I delete only this recipient, without deleting the whole message? > > I use mailman 2.0.11 > > thomas > -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] List posting problems
It's been a long time since I did an Exim install but I think you need to add the aliases for Mailman. When you run "~mailman/bin/newlist " it prints out the aliases that you need to add. On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 18:07, Tim Roberts wrote: > Hi, > > I managed to install Mailman using the INSTALL for guidance. I can sign > users up, confirm them and delete them and manage lists fine. > > However, I have posted to my first "test" list using several accounts > and all the posts come back to me undeliverable, below is a transcript > of returned mail. > > I use exim on Debian for an MTA if that helps... > > TIA > > Tim > > > The original message was received at Mon, 17 Mar 2003 22:20:29 GMT > from [EMAIL PROTECTED] [217.126.24.216] > >- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > (reason: 550 Unknown local part test in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > >- Transcript of session follows - > ... while talking to mail.happygecko.com.: > >>> RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <<< 550 Unknown local part test in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 550 5.1.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown > > > Reporting-MTA: dns; cobalt090.fm.netbenefit.co.uk > Received-From-MTA: DNS; 217-126-24-216.uc.nombres.ttd.es > Arrival-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 22:20:29 GMT > > Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Action: failed > Status: 5.1.1 > Remote-MTA: DNS; mail.happygecko.com > Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 Unknown local part test in > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 22:20:30 GMT > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] load error after install in FreeBSD 5.0
You have some permission problems. You might need to run the ~mailman/bin/check_perms and read the README.BSD that comes with the installation. Jon Carnes On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 14:54, John Cessor wrote: > Folks > I just tried to install mailman on a FreeBSD 5.0 system and when > attempting to go to the admin page it returns the below error. > Any idea what I did wrong? The url for the machine is > http://www.azng.net/mailman/admin > JohnC > > Bug in Mailman version 2.1.1 > > We're sorry, we hit a bug! > If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a > copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a > description of what happened. Thanks! > > Traceback: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 68, in run_main > immediate=1) > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py", > line 52, in __init__ > Logger.__init__(self, category, nofail, immediate) > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py", line 49, > in __init__ > self.__get_f() > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py", line 67, > in __get_f > 1) > File "/usr/local/lib/python2.2/codecs.py", line 496, in open > file = __builtin__.open(filename, mode, buffering) > IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: > '/usr/local/mailman/logs/error' > > > > > - > --- > > Python information: > Variable Value > sys.version 2.2.2 (#1, Jan 3 2003, 07:54:31) [GCC 3.2.1 > [FreeBSD] 20021119 (release)] > sys.executable /usr/local/bin/python > sys.prefix /usr/local > sys.exec_prefix /usr/local > sys.path /usr/local > sys.platform freebsd5 > > > > > - > --- > > Environment variables: > Variable Value > PYTHONPATH /usr/local/mailman > SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) > SCRIPT_FILENAME /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/admin > SERVER_ADMIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] > SCRIPT_NAME /mailman/admin > SERVER_SIGNATURE Apache/1.3.27 Server at asa.azng.net Port > 80 > REQUEST_METHOD GET > HTTP_HOST www.azng.net > SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.1 > QUERY_STRING > REQUEST_URI /mailman/admin > HTTP_ACCEPT */* > HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows > NT 5.1) > HTTP_CONNECTION Keep-Alive > SERVER_NAME asa.azng.net > REMOTE_ADDR 208.187.24.120 > REMOTE_PORT 3141 > HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE en-us > SERVER_ADDR 208.187.24.124 > SERVER_PORT 80 > GATEWAY_INTERFACE CGI/1.1 > HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING gzip, deflate > UNIQUE_ID PnYTAtC7GHwAAAHoA4A > DOCUMENT_ROOT /usr/local/www/data > > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman How-Tos Needed
On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 21:49, Darren Hood wrote: > Hello. > > I'm new to Mailman and finally got my lists to work, but need to know > how to perform certain tasks: > > 1.Only certain people will be allowed to send messages to the > list. How can I edit the welcome message that is sent out to new > subscribers so that posting info is not included? This is detailed in the archives, but basically you copy the file ~mailman/templates/en/subscribeack.txt over to ~mailman/lists//en/subscribeack.txt Then edit that file. This new file will be used for your list. > > 2.In my first test message, an attached text file is included > containing info about the list. How can I keep the attachment from > being sent? > Get rid of the footer. > Thanks. > > DH HtH - Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Message IDs in /var/log/smtp and smtp-failure
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 02:10, Thomas Guettler wrote: > Hi! > > Since I am using debian stable, I don't want to update the mailman. I > like to narrow down the problem. You may still be able to find an upgrade patch that allows you to upgrade 2.0.11 up to 2.0.13. I'm pretty sure those Mailman patches are specifically designed to be applied to the source. > > How can Message IDs be displayed in /var/log/smtp and smtp-failure? Upgrade to version 2.1.1 :-) > > It would be nice if the following line would contain message ID and > the To-Header: > Mar 17 06:46:56 2003 (14243) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 10.025 seconds > Mar 17 07:58:36 2003 (14243) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 4299.983 seconds > >From version 2.1.1: Jan 22 22:58:16 2003 (2804) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp for 1 recips, completed in 1.133 seconds Jan 22 22:58:17 2003 (2804) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp for 2 recips, completed in 0.329 seconds > Do I need to patch the python scripts? Feel free to re-invent the wheel. You might want to simply download the working code (either from 2.0.13 or from 2.1.1) and steal the parts you want/need in order to get your install working reliably Of course, I don't see much of a difference between that and simply upgrading :-) Enjoy yourself! Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Still can't get new installition to deliver mail
Looks like a rights problem... In any case, check out FAQ 3.14 which covers this problem in detail. Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Good Luck - Jon Carnes === On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 22:13, George Cohn wrote: > I'm running Mailman 2.0.13 with Postfix 1.1.11 on RH 8. > > Everything works in Mailman now except it still won't deliver a message > to the subscribers (me) if I post a message. > > What I am getting back is this: > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Action: failed > Status: 5.0.0 > Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; Command died with status 1: > "/var/mailman/scripts/post members". Command output: Traceback (most > recent > call last): File "/var/mailman/scripts/post", line 94, in ? > main() > File "/var/mailman/scripts/post", line 89, in main > msg.Enqueue(mlist, > tolist=1) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Message.py", line 176, in > Enqueue > dbfp = Utils.open_ex(dbfile, 'w') File > "/var/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", > line 601, in open_ex fd = os.open(filename, flags, perms) > IOError: > [Errno 13] Permission denied: > > '/var/spool/mailman/qfiles/eab7bf064c5f08d5f4bb50519039b967f53d6c1c.db' > > I am guessing that that last line is actually the message ID but somehow > it can't be opened because of permissions problems? > > Anybody have some clues? > > TIA > > George Cohn > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Why some messages aren't distributed?
What are your "Delivery defaults" set to in ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py (or Defaults.py)? === #DELIVERY_MODULE = 'Sendmail' DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' # MTA -- but then also see POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS. MTA = 'Manual' POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = [] POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postalias' POSTFIX_MAP_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postmap' SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 500 SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = 0 MAX_DELIVERY_THREADS = 0 SMTPHOST = 'localhost' SMTPPORT = 0 # default from smtplib == Have you tried running with DELIVERY_MODULE = 'Sendmail' On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 10:50, Marina Markus wrote: > > Hello and thank you, > > But I checked both places and found nothing: > > > Check to see if the messages have been shunted: > > ~mailman/qfiles/shunt/.. > > I didn't find those specific undistributed messages > in this directory, although found some older ones. > May I ask what this "shunt" directory serves for? > There are some archive messages from Barry that explain it. I believe they are for messages that take too long for Mailman to process. There might be a problem with their headers or with the system. In any case, rather than let the message clog up the queue, Mailman gives up on the message and shunts it. Check out the ~mailman/bin/unshunt command > > > > Also check on your MTA and see if it is using your fully qualified > > domain name or merely a subset of your domain name (like fred instead of > > fred.mynet.com). > > > > Yes, it uses a fully qualified domain name "lists.bgu.ac.il". > > Can there be a situation when "mailmanctl" dies by itself > and then starts anew by itself? This could be an explanation, > although I can't see how this could happen. > > Regards, > -Marina Something similar can happen. One of the features of version 2.1 is that it times it's processes as a last resort to figure out if a process is hung somehow. As an example, the Archiver qrunner has a specified number of minutes to handle each message, if it exceeds that time limit then it is killed and restarted after all the other qrunners have been given another go. (at least that is how I read the code...) HtH - Jon Carnes BTW: are you running any Spam/virus scanning in conjunction with your Sendmail? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Lock aquired in future
Just as a guess... but are you using GMT time on your machine and then using individual timezone settings for your users? On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 17:05, Thomas Guettler wrote: > Hi! > > The locks seem to be requested in the future. > > pu:~# ls --full-time /var/lib/mailman/locks > total 8 > -rw-rw-r--2 list list 44 Mon Mar 17 09:03:28 2003 qrunner.lock > -rw-rw-r--2 list list 44 Mon Mar 17 09:03:28 2003 > qrunner.lock.pu.22391 > pu:~# date > Sun Mar 16 23:04:31 CET 2003 > > 10 hours difference are very long. Can someone explain this to me? > > thomas > > -- > Thomas Guettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://www.thomas-guettler.de > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Big Delays: 22hours in Mailman-Queue
IIRC, there is a known problem with Mailman version 2.0.11 with certain headers causing the queue to fall-over (and basically send mailman into a long spiral of inactivity). This prompted a quick release of 2.0.12 and then the eventual solid release of 2.0.13. You should at least upgrade to version 2.0.13!!! Good Luck - Jon Carnes On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 16:41, Thomas Guettler wrote: > Hi! > > I have a problem with mailman. Some mails hang in the queue very long > (See ** mark): > > Received: from pu.schlittermann.de (212.80.235.130) > by mx0.gmx.net (mx002-rz3) with SMTP; 8 Mar 2003 11:30:53 - > Received: from amavis by pu.schlittermann.de with scanned-ok (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) > id 18rcXT-YP-00; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 12:30:51 +0100 > Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=pu.schlittermann.de) > by pu.schlittermann.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) > id 18rcXR-Xz-00; Sat, **08 Mar 2003** 12:30:49 +0100 > Received: from amavis by pu.schlittermann.de with scanned-ok (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) > id 18rHbf-0007FH-00 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, **07 Mar 2003** 14:09:47 +0100 > Received: from vwisb7.vkw.tu-dresden.de ([141.30.51.183]) > by pu.schlittermann.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) > id 18rHbe-0007F7-00 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 14:09:46 +0100 > > I tried to look into the log files, found no answer. Is there a way > for mailman to write message IDs in the log files? > > Our mailinglist has low traffic: Ten mails per day, 200 > subscribers. It is strange, only some mails hang. Not all. > > According to the mail headers it can't be the virus checker amavis. > > What could I do to narrow down the problem? > > Exim Version: 3.36-1 > Mailmn Version: 2.0.11-1woody5 (Debian) > > Thomas > > -- > Thomas Guettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://www.thomas-guettler.de > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/guettli%40thomas-guettler.de > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] noob here
Be sure that you are using the latest version of Mailman version 2.1.1 This may be a problem where you already have a cookie stored for the Mailman site and that cookie is incompatible with the current format. Try deleting all the cookies and then attaching to the site. Good Luck - Jon Carnes On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 21:22, Julian Brown wrote: > Howdy > > I just installed V2.1. I am excited, I am moving my many Majordomo lists > over. But right out of the shoot, I ran into a problem with a confirmation > string. > > I saw some discussion about that in beta and before, but not exactly as I am > seeing it. > > Could you review this trace and tell me if I have it misconfigued in > someway? > > Thanx > > Julian Brown > > > f you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of > this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what > happened. Thanks! > Traceback: > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main > main() > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/confirm.py", line 110, in main > subscription_confirm(mlist, doc, cookie, cgidata) > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/confirm.py", line 325, in > subscription_confirm > userdesc = Pending.confirm(cookie, expunge=0)[1] > TypeError: unsubscriptable object > > > Python information: > Variable Value > sys.version 2.2 (#1, Apr 12 2002, 15:29:57) [GCC 2.96 2731 (Red Hat > Linux 7.2 2.96-109)] > sys.executable /usr/bin/python > sys.prefix /usr > sys.exec_prefix /usr > sys.path /usr > sys.platform linux2 > Environment variables: > Variable Value > PATH_INFO /gettysburg > HTTP_ACCEPT text/xml, application/xml, application/xhtml+xml, > text/html;q=0.9, image/png, image/jpeg, image/gif;q=0.2, text/plain;q=0.8, > text/css, */*;q=0.1 > CONTENT_TYPE application/x-www-form-urlencoded > HTTP_REFERER > http://roundtop.arthes.com/mailman/confirm/gettysburg/e7044384835a781fbee0fa > d0ac80b96a40323f5e > SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache/1.3.23 (Unix) (Red-Hat/Linux) mod_ssl/2.8.7 > OpenSSL/0.9.6b DAV/1.0.3 PHP/4.1.2 mod_perl/1.26 > PYTHONPATH /usr/local/mailman > SCRIPT_FILENAME /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/confirm > SERVER_ADMIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] > SCRIPT_NAME /mailman/confirm > SERVER_SIGNATURE > Apache/1.3.23 Server at roundtop.arthes.com Port 80 > REQUEST_METHOD POST > HTTP_HOST roundtop.arthes.com > HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE 300 > SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.1 > QUERY_STRING > REQUEST_URI /mailman/confirm/gettysburg > CONTENT_LENGTH 130 > HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET ISO-8859-1, utf-8;q=0.66, *;q=0.66 > HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:0.9.4) > Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 > HTTP_CONNECTION keep-alive > SERVER_NAME roundtop.arthes.com > REMOTE_PORT 1229 > REMOTE_ADDR 65.26.0.64 > HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE en-us > PATH_TRANSLATED /var/www/html/gettysburg > SERVER_PORT 80 > GATEWAY_INTERFACE CGI/1.1 > HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING gzip, deflate, compress;q=0.9 > SERVER_ADDR 216.62.147.33 > DOCUMENT_ROOT /var/www/html > > He tried it again later and had a different but I am sure related problem > > ello, > > No, all cookies are enabled. I was using Netscape 6.2 > > I tried the link again in Explorer and Netscape and got the > following > > Bad confirmation string > Invalid confirmation string: e7044384835a781fbee0fad0ac80b96a40323f5e. > > Note that confirmation strings expire approximately 3 days after the > initial subscription request. If your confirmation has expired, please try > to re-submit your subscription. Otherwise, re-enter your confirmation > string. > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Managing attachments in the list archive
Pipermail is the archiver that comes built-in to Mailman. While Pipermail fits the needs of 90% of the folks who use Mailman, it is a light-weight archiver. For more heavy duty archive use, you should look at using something like Mhonarc. Mhonarc should be able to handle your needs easily, and there is an FAQ on setting up Mhonarc with Mailman. Good Luck - Jon Carnes On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 10:02, Paul Kleeberg wrote: > I am transferring a list to Mailman 2.1.1 in which the members like > to send each other attachments. Attachments seem to be distributed > fine to the members but archive storage looks like it will be spotty. > > In testing from a PC with NT4.0 and Outlook2K, .jpg and .doc files > seem to store just fine. .pdf files go through to the subscribers > but are stored on the web with a "-0001.obj" replacing the ".pdf" at > the end of the file name. The file is then not recognized on the > client machine. > > When sent by a Macintosh with OSX using either Eudora or Mail.app, > attachments which are listed as "type multipart/appledouble" are > skipped and not stored in the web archives. The attachments are > distributed to the members intact but the archive states "Skipped > content of type multipart/appledouble" > > Two questions: > 1. How can I control what filetypes are stored and what are skipped? > 2. Is there a way to fix the way the .pdf files from the PC are stored? > > Paul > -- > Paul Kleeberg > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Content Filtering Vs. PRE-MailmanFiltering
I've long been a proponent of "the right tool for the right job." In that vein, I recommend running your filtering using a pre-processor. Extended Content Filtering could easily be added in to Mailman - it is Open Source. You could easily call an external content filter by sticking in a new handler at the beginning of the stream. Then it would integrate automatically with all your lists. Ahh the beauty of Open Source! On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 12:44, Jeremy Butler wrote: > I'm trying to figure out the BEST way to do content filtering with > Mailman: (1) through Mailman's own content filtering or (2) through a > dedicated filter (e.g., Procmail Email Sanitizer) that processes mail > BEFORE Mailman sees it. > > In Mailman's favor is the convenience of having the filter built-in and, I > presume, a more efficient use of resources. > > But in favor of Sanitizer (or another filter) is greater flexibility in the > processing of attached files. One can quarantine/defang/scan for viruses > in misbehaving file attachments. > > I've read in the Mailman FAQ about how to filter incoming mail before it > hits Mailman (using Procmail), but my question is a more philosophical one: > > SHOULD one pre-filter email before it gets to Mailman? > > And if one should instead rely on Mailman for filtering, could someone > provide samples of what they've used for > > filter_mime_types > pass_mime_types > > Thanks! > > P.S. I'm using Mailman 2.2.1 with Postfix on a RedHat 8 system. > > > Jeremy Butler > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > TELEVISION: CRITICAL METHODS AND APPLICATIONS > www.TVCrit.com > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Pipermail: Display recipient fields?
You would have to edit the source for this. It is not currently a standard feature of Mailman. On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 07:10, Pat Finnerty wrote: > Hi, > > Is it possible to allow the TO: and CC: fields be shown in Pipermail > archive? Something that some of my users would like. > > I'm using Mailman v2.1 and haven't seen any way of doing this. > > Cheers, > > Pat. > > -- > Patrick Finnerty, System Administrator, > Mission Critical & Proactive Services, Hewlett Packard, > Ballybrit Business Park, Galway, IRELAND. > p: +353-91-754722 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
