Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive problems
On Apr 13, 2006, at 1:25 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: > > The mm_cfg.py file should over-ride any conflicting values that > are found in Defaults.py. That's the whole purpose of this file -- > we provide a set of defaults for you in Defaults.py, and then if > you want anything different you put those things in mm_cfg.py. > > > Now, what may be tripping you up is some of the values specified > in the configuration files are additive -- it's not either/or, but > both. So, if Defaults.py specifies things one way and mm_cfg.py > specifies something else, it's not that the values in Defaults.py > get over-ridden, but instead the values specified in the mm_cfg.py > file get added to whatever is defined in Defaults.py. > > However, these things are only additive in the areas where it > makes sense for that to happen, so you should go back to the > installation instructions and make sure that you understand which > configuration options are used for what, and precisely what is used > where and in what format. Maybe the mm_cfg.py file is not being used- or there is something wrong with it, so Mailman is using the default.py file. The largest piece of this problem unresolved is the list of archives is not complete. The list includes only a few months at the end of 2005. I do not seem to be able to get this list to show all archives. -- Thomas Waters Director of Information and Communication Services University of Pittsburgh School of Pharmacy 412-383-7471 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pharmacy.pitt.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive problems
rad, I understand the "why" of this, but don't understand the problem or fix to the problem. Our mm_cfg.py file listed the correct values for Default URL and Default host, so I don't understand how/why the default.py file was 1) wrong, and 2) over-riding the mm_cfg.py file. I guess I don't understand how these two files relate to each other. On Apr 12, 2006, at 8:15 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 5:09 PM -0400 2006-04-12, Thomas Waters wrote: > >> Default.py had different values than mm_cfg.py for default url host. >> I correcterd it, and the link from the web admin is now correct and >> functioning. Thx. > > You should leave Defaults.py alone, and make all your corrections/ > changes in mm_cfg.py. Defaults.py will get replaced when you > upgrade your Mailman installation, but mm_cfg.py won't. If you've > made all your changes to Defaults.py and not mm_cfg.py, then when > you upgrade all your changes will be gone and all your lists will > disappear. > > -- > Brad Knowles, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little > temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." > > -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania > Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 > > LOPSA member since December 2005. See <http://www.lopsa.org/>. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive problems
On Apr 12, 2006, at 11:36 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > This latter means that if you have an incorrect value for > DEFAULT_URL_HOST in Defaults.py, and you don't clear it in mm_cfg.py, > you can get the incorrect host. What you want in mm_cfg.py is: > > DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = ... > DEFAULT_URL_HOST = ... > VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() > add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) > Default.py had different values than mm_cfg.py for default url host. I correcterd it, and the link from the web admin is now correct and functioning. Thx. > That's OK, but you also need to check permissions on the higher > directories. There are several threads in the archives of this list > about permissions on Mac OS X. See for example > <http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Amail.python.org++inurl% > 3Amailman-users+%22permission+denied%22+mac+os>. > > Also see the material linked at the end of > <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py? > req=show&file=faq01.021.htp>. I will go over all of this more thoroughly, however, I ran check perms and it fixed much. I also ran bin/arch and it appeared to do a lot. However, when I hit the archives the shown list is just the same as it was before running these two things. -- Thomas Waters Director of Information and Communication Services University of Pittsburgh School of Pharmacy 412-383-7471 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pharmacy.pitt.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Archive problems
I'm having two problems concerning list archives. Server: Apple XServe, OS X Server 10.4.5, Mailman 2.1.5 1) In the web interface for Admin, link to list archives does not have correct path. I ran bin/fix_url, but that didn't fix the problem the mm_cfg.py file lists correct default mail host and default url host 2) If I manually fix the URL for archives, I get a list of archives, but does not include all archives- none of the current months. I do not know if 1) it isn't archiving or 2) there is a different issue here. I think it may not be archiving because in the OS X Server Admin pane, looking at /var/mailman/logs/error, there are entries like: Apr 12 10:18:02 2006 (475) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/private/var/mailman/archives/private/rx2006/ database/2006-April-date.lock.rxweb.pharmacy.pitt.edu.475.2' Permissions for /mailman/archives/ is Owner: system RW, Group: mailman RW, Others: R Thx, -- Thomas Waters Director of Information and Communication Services University of Pittsburgh School of Pharmacy 412-383-7471 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pharmacy.pitt.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] confused about how to use fix url
I need some help understanding the use of fix url. I see that I need to use it with withlist, but past that, I'm confused. Upgraded the hardware for our server, and in trying to move everything to it my lists aren't working. I can create a new list, and it works, but the migrated lists won't function. In the web page UI, the links to the archives show the wrong URL. I have read everything in the server (man and help) about withlist and fix url, and still confused. Thx, -- Thomas Waters Director of Information and Communication Services University of Pittsburgh School of Pharmacy 412-383-7471 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pharmacy.pitt.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman or postfix problem?
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Command died with status 2: "/usr/share/mailman/mail/mailman post rxtesttuesday". Command output: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group "mailman", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group "tcwaters". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group "mailman", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=tcwaters'. I ask if this is mailman or postfix because I was trying to move the mail lists to a new server, so I have "handled" the mailman files, but never touched the Postfix files. Is this a file permissions issue? Thx -- Thomas Waters Director of Information and Communication Services University of Pittsburgh School of Pharmacy 412-383-7471 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pharmacy.pitt.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Way to reset list Admin password?
I replaced an older server today with a new Mac OS X XServe. I moved my mailman lists and I see then in the Server Admin. but when I try and access them via the Mailman web page UI, I get a " Authorization failed" error when I try to enter my list moderator password. I found this in the archive and willing to give it a try, but wanted to see 1) Is this the right way to go? 2) Other suggestions? http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg34242.html Old Server: Mac OS X Server 10.4.4/ G4 tower; Mailman 2.1.5 New Server: Mac OS X Server 10.4.4/ G5 XServe; Mailman 2.1.5 NOTE: new email address -- Thomas Waters Director of Information and Communication Services University of Pittsburgh School of Pharmacy 412-383-7471 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pharmacy.pitt.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Format to enter list of users with names
In the Mailman web GUI, there is a field for a name associated with an email address. Is there a format to use for a tab sep list so that the name AND address can be imported via the Mass Subscribe? So far, I have only been successful doing a Mass Subscribe of email alone. NOTE: new email address -- Thomas Waters Director of Information and Communication Services University of Pittsburgh School of Pharmacy 412-383-7471 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pharmacy.pitt.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Need more guidance in getting Mailman lists running on OS X Tiger Server
I tried to move our mailman lists from the older Panther Server to a new install of tiger server, and I'm still not there. Postfix is working. Mailman is working. What isn't correct is the Web UI for Mailman. The lists use the addresses [EMAIL PROTECTED], but the web site has a URL of www/pharmacy.pitt.edu/mailman/somelist In the mm_cfg.py file, email host is set to pharmacy.pitt.edu and URL host set to www.pharmacy.pitt.edu. Is this the correct settings? If I go to the Maillist admin web page, and try to create a new list, I get error- unknown virtual host www.pharmacy.pitt.edu. I can create a list in the OS X Server Admin however. I believe the only pice that is "broken" is create a new list via the web UI. NOTE: new email address -- Thomas Waters Director of Information and Communication Services University of Pittsburgh School of Pharmacy 412-383-7471 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pharmacy.pitt.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Need assistance trouble shooting problem after moving Mailman from one box to another moving Mailman from one box to another
OK. I believe the problem(s) are several, but the biggest one deals with postfix and the aliases. As per check perms. I ran as check_perms -f and there were a lot of lines all ending in (fixing) but this was at the end of that: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/mailman/bin/check_perms", line 367, in ? checkdata() File "/usr/share/mailman/bin/check_perms", line 321, in checkdata mode = statmode(path) File "/usr/share/mailman/bin/check_perms", line 81, in statmode return os.stat(path)[ST_MODE] OSError: [Errno 20] Not a directory: '/private/var/mailman/ lists/.DS_Store/config.pck' As far as rebuilding the aliases table: rxweb:~ tcwaters$ sudo /usr/share/mailman/bin/genaliases postalias: fatal: open /private/var/mailman/data/aliases.db: Permission denied Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/mailman/bin/genaliases", line 116, in ? main() File "/usr/share/mailman/bin/genaliases", line 106, in main MTA.create(mlist, nolock=True, quiet=quiet) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 232, in create _update_maps() File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 53, in _update_maps raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr) RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias /private/var/ mailman/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted) As per the postfix main.cf, here is what is there under aliases: #alias_maps = dbm:/etc/aliases #alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases #alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, nis:mail.aliases #alias_maps = netinfo:/aliases doesn't look like there is any reference to mailman, correct? Now, the web UI for mailman works. I can add members to lists, delete members, etc. The archives show up fine. The issue is surrounding postfix and mailman talking to each other. Messages being sent to the server get this returned after a while: Your message has been enqueued and undeliverable for 1 day to the following recipients: Recipient address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reason: unable to deliver this message after 1 day Delivery attempt history for your mail: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:32:29 -0400 (EDT) TCP active open: Failed connect()Error: connection refused Please note. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not a mailman list, just an email acct. so maybe the problem is with postfix and not with Mailman. Or in my attempts to fix the mailman problem, I created other problems. Thx, On Jun 22, 2005, at 6:50 PM, Bill Landry wrote: > - Original Message - > From: Thomas Waters > To: Bill Landry > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 3:26 PM > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Need assistance trouble shooting > problem after moving Mailman from one box to another moving Mailman > from one box to another > > > On Jun 22, 2005, at 6:03 PM, Bill Landry wrote: > >> You should have an entry in your Postfix main.cf like (pointing to >> your correct aliases paths): >> >> alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases, hash:/usr/local/mailman/ >> data/aliases > > This may be a part of the problem. I looked at the file and > neither of these exist. But the lines allso have # so I thought > those were comments... > >> This will report any incorrect file/group permissions, or, to >> correct any file/group permissions issues, run as root: >> >> check_perms -f > > This seemed to work I believe. a number of lines said fixed. > >>> How do I rebuild the aliases.db file? >>> >> >> bin/genaliases > Here is what I get here: > > rxweb:~ tcwaters$ sudo /usr/share/mailman/bin/genaliases > postalias: fatal: open /private/var/mailman/data/aliases.db: > Permission denied > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/share/mailman/bin/genaliases", line 116, in ? > main() > File "/usr/share/mailman/bin/genaliases", line 106, in main > MTA.create(mlist, nolock=True, quiet=quiet) > File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 232, in > create > _update_maps() > File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 53, in > _update_maps > raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr) > RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias /private/var/ > mailman/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted) > > Hmmm, where exactly do your Mailmail aliases files live? There > appears to be some be some conflict in the paths shown above. Try > executing the genaliases command from the mailman top-level > directory as: > > sudo bin/genaliases > > and see if that works for you. Also, please keep posts and replies > on the list, helps to build the archive for future reference. > >
Re: [Mailman-Users] Need assistance trouble shooting problem after moving Mailman from one box to another
Thanks to everyone who has emailed me with assistance so far. I have some follow up questions: Following FAQ 3.1.4, I ran check perms. I see a print out of perms. does this command just tell you what they should be; does it fix them? As per Aliases, the FAQ is confusing to me, but may be the cause of my problems. I do not understand how to tell if postfix is recognizing the ~mailman/data/aliases file. How do I rebuild the aliases.db file? Thanks, On Jun 21, 2005, at 2:10 PM, JC Dill wrote: > Thomas Waters wrote: > >> I posted last week before moving our distribution lists from a >> Panther Server (Mailman 2.1.3) to Tiger Server (Mailman 2.1.5). >> Instructioins, esp those from Mark Sapiro were very helpful. I >> was able to move the lists, and the archives. Everything in the >> OS X Server Admin UI looks fine and the Mailman Web UI looks >> fine. I can add members, delete members. But none of the >> transfered lists appear to work- mail sent to any of them seems >> lost. >> I can add a new list, add members, and that list works fine, so >> Mailman is functioning. >> On the transfered lists- I did these steps: >> Stop mailman on old server >> Stop mailman on new server >> copy lists and archives >> > > What about alises? > > >> edit mm_cfg.py to show correct host name >> ran fix_url.py although told me to run as bin/withlist -l -r >> fix_url listname >> >> This appeared to all run successfully. >> What to do next? >> > > Look at the list archives. > > If the message makes it to the archive, then mailman is getting the > message, so the problem would be with mailman sending the message > back out. Check to make sure the new mailman server has permission > to send thru your mail server etc. > > If the message doesn't get to the archives then the problem is with > the message getting to mailman, or with mailman processing the > message on the incoming side, e.g. broken alises not delivering the > mail to mailman or mailman treating the message as spam and > discarding it. > > Also look at the mailman logs and the mail server logs. > > -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Need assistance trouble shooting problem after moving Mailman from one box to another
On Jun 21, 2005, at 2:10 PM, JC Dill wrote: > What about alises? There are no aliases > > >> edit mm_cfg.py to show correct host name >> ran fix_url.py although told me to run as bin/withlist -l -r >> fix_url listname >> >> This appeared to all run successfully. >> What to do next? >> > > Look at the list archives. > > If the message makes it to the archive, then mailman is getting the > message, so the problem would be with mailman sending the message > back out. They do not get to the archives. I think maybe I have a permissions problem with the transferred files. I;'m looking at that first. > Check to make sure the new mailman server has permission to send > thru your mail server etc. > > If the message doesn't get to the archives then the problem is with > the message getting to mailman, or with mailman processing the > message on the incoming side, e.g. broken alises not delivering the > mail to mailman or mailman treating the message as spam and > discarding it. > > Also look at the mailman logs and the mail server logs. > > -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Need assistance trouble shooting problem after moving Mailman from one box to another
I posted last week before moving our distribution lists from a Panther Server (Mailman 2.1.3) to Tiger Server (Mailman 2.1.5). Instructioins, esp those from Mark Sapiro were very helpful. I was able to move the lists, and the archives. Everything in the OS X Server Admin UI looks fine and the Mailman Web UI looks fine. I can add members, delete members. But none of the transfered lists appear to work- mail sent to any of them seems lost. I can add a new list, add members, and that list works fine, so Mailman is functioning. On the transfered lists- I did these steps: Stop mailman on old server Stop mailman on new server copy lists and archives edit mm_cfg.py to show correct host name ran fix_url.py although told me to run as bin/withlist -l -r fix_url listname This appeared to all run successfully. What to do next? Thx, NOTE: new email address -- Thomas Waters Director of Information and Communication Services University of Pittsburgh School of Pharmacy 412-383-7471 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pharmacy.pitt.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] How to migrate an entire Mailman site from one server to another?
I looked through the FAQ but didn't find what I was looking for. I'm setting up a new OS X Tiger 10.4 Server to replace our current 10.3 Server, and looking for the easiest way to move all the email lists. We have about 25 lists. I can let go of the archives- that isn't a big deal. I can export each list's member, add each list manually to the new server and then import- but was hoping there was an easier way. Suggestions? Thanks, -- Thomas Waters Director of Information and Communication Services University of Pittsburgh School of Pharmacy 412-383-7471 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pharmacy.pitt.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Critical security update for Mailman 2.1.5 and earlier
I'd like to issue a similar plea for assistance. I have Mailman 2.1.3 (default install on Panther Server) If a very basic set of instructions could be prepared, step 1, step 2, step 3.. it would be extremely helpful. On Feb 10, 2005, at 10:34 AM, John Swartzentruber wrote: On 2/10/2005 9:41 AM Barry Warsaw wrote: Until Mailman 2.1.6 is released, the longer term fix is to apply this patch: http://www.list.org/CAN-2005-0202.txt Could an expert please help out a non-expert? I applied this patch to /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi, and the private.py file was correctly patched. I'm not sure that this is enough, however, because the private.pyc file wasn't changed, even after I restarted mailman. Should I have patched the private.py file in the source, then gone through the "make" and "make install" process? In short, how should this patch be applied? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/ rxweb%2B%40pitt.edu NOTE: new email address -- Thomas Waters Director of Information and Communication Services University of Pittsburgh School of Pharmacy 412-383-7471 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pharmacy.pitt.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mail list which is a collection of lists
Mailman 2.1.2 on OS X Panther Server I'd like to make some mail lists which are collections of other lists List1: PersonA PersonB PersonC List2 PersonD PersonE PersonF List3: PersonG PersonH PersonI List 4: List 1 List 2 (This would go to 6 people, 3 from 1 and 3 from 2) I can set this up and have the mail go out OK, personA gets messages sent to list 4, but personA can't post to list 4- message gets held as post from non-member. Can these lists be made to work so that only member can post including members of sublists? Thx, -- Thomas Waters Director of Information and Communication Services University of Pittsburgh School of Pharmacy 412-383-7471 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pharmacy.pitt.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Unable to send mail to new lists
Mailman 2.12 OS X 10.3.6 Server Added several lists via Mailman web interface. But get this message when trying to send mail to the list to test: Diagnostic code: smtp;550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: User unknown in local recipient table. I don't believe I have done anything different than when lists were created in the past, but am not clear what else to check. -- Thomas Waters Director of Information and Communication Services University of Pittsburgh School of Pharmacy 412-383-7471 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pharmacy.pitt.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Mail to new list not accepted
I've added several new lists and mail to those lists are generating "recipient not recognized by server error : Diagnostic code: smtp;550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: User unknown in local recipient table. How to I repair this? -- Thomas Waters Director of Information and Communication Services University of Pittsburgh School of Pharmacy 412-383-7471 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pharmacy.pitt.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Mail not going through to all lists
There was a power outage and now Mailman isn't working., The web admin pages function, but mail is not going through. From the FAQ, I think it is a stale lock. I've found two locks: -rw-rw-r-- 2 mailman mailman 67 20 Jul 19:51 master-qrunner -rw-rw-r-- 2 mailman mailman 67 20 Jul 19:51 master-qrunner.www.pharmacy.pitt.edu.453 Do I simply remove one or both of these? Thx, -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] upgrading Panther Server basic install 2.1.2 to 2.1.5
Thanks Brad and Dan for your comments. Mailman has worked really well for me, but as someone coming to Panther Server and Mailman from running a webstar server, it is a big jump- a BIG change. Better docs to help the newbie/clueless would go a long way. That said, the more I work in this "unix" environment, the easier it gets and the cooler it all seems. But I still don't *think* unix enough to make it easy yet. Anyway will give it a shot in the AM and see where I get to. On Jun 29, 2004, at 7:18 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: At 4:14 PM -0400 2004-06-29, Thomas Waters wrote: OK. v So I have the 2.1.5 folder on the desktop. Do I want to use the terminal and mv to move the directory to the location of the existing directly? No, you don't want to do that. Will this overwrite everything in /usr/share/mailman? Then run bin/update? Or do I use the terminal to run bin/update from on the desktop? Problem is, we don't know the specific options that Apple used when they built the previous version. You could try using "make update" from Terminal at the top level of the Mailman folder, but you'd need to make sure to specify the correct target Folder. That might also miss some other build options. Unfortunately, Apple didn't document anything, so we're pretty much completely blind. To do this right, I fear that you're going to have to do a complete fresh install and then copy over selected data. You may (or may not) be able to copy over the configuration files, so you may be forced to regenerate that information. This is a typical problem with any vendor pre-packaged version of a program. Do you stick with the package version, which the vendor is responsible for making sure works, or do you install the current version from source? -- Brad Knowles, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. SAGE member since 1995. See <http://www.sage.org/> for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] upgrading Panther Server basic install 2.1.2 to 2.1.5
I set up a text box to work on before touching the real machine. Clean install of Panther Server, created a few lists.downloaded 2.1.5. And I'm happy to write up what I did atfer I'm successfully done. But then, I'm stuck. I guess I'm looking for step by step. OK. v So I have the 2.1.5 folder on the desktop. Do I want to use the terminal and mv to move the directory to the location of the existing directly? Will this overwrite everything in /usr/share/mailman? Then run bin/update? Or do I use the terminal to run bin/update from on the desktop? On Jun 29, 2004, at 12:14 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: At 12:00 PM -0400 2004-06-29, Thomas Waters wrote: 1) there is nothing in the upgrading doc that specifically talks about 2.1.2 -> 2.1.5. So, is the info for 2.1.4 -> 2.1.5 sufficient? It should be. 2) On the Readme OS X- seems to speak to Jaquar and is out of date/not applicable to 10.3.x? Apple has not contributed their changes to Mailman back to the project, nor have they contributed any documentation back to the project about what they changed. What is here is what people have created on their own. So far as I know, all the people running Mailman on MacOS X are either doing it from stuff they've installed themselves on Jaguar, or they're using the Apple-bundled stuff on Panther Server. I don't know of anyone who has tried using the standard Mailman stuff on Panther (as opposed to Panther Server). See <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py? req=show&file=faq01.021.htp>. Once you get your upgrade done, it would be nice if you could contribute your experiences and knowledge back to the project, to try to help fill this gap. 3) In the Readme, under "create your first list" , the default location is listed as /usr/local/mailman. On my server, it is usr/share/mailman. Should that be changed? It depends on what was done by the guy who originally installed it. However, it seems plausible that all references to /usr/local/mailman would need to be changed to /usr/share/mailman on your system. I don't have very many lists, and I'm need to delete all members and re-import list menmbers, so I'm happy to wipe it all clean and start from scratch if needed. The update over the stuff you have now should be relatively clean. Should be. 4) the dir, usr/share/mailman does not contain everything that I see in the 2.1.5 folder I downloaded. That's not a good sign. Is there a directory named "mailman" anywhere else on the system? -- Brad Knowles, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. SAGE member since 1995. See <http://www.sage.org/> for more info. -- Thomas Waters Director of Information and Communication Services University of Pittsburgh School of Pharmacy 412-383-7471 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pharmacy.pitt.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] upgrading Panther Server basic install 2.1.2 to 2.1.5
We've been using Mailman with few problems for some time now on a G4/OS X 10.3.4, Mailman 2.1.2. The set up was done by a temp- a guy with UNIX experience that I lack, and he is off in Germany now. Trying to add some new lists, I'm getting a variety of errors, and decided that maybe it's time to get Mailman up to date. Maybe that would solve my errors. I've downloaded 2.1.5 and have read the FAQ, the Readme, and the Upgrading docs, but I'm still not sure about a few things: 1) there is nothing in the upgrading doc that specifically talks about 2.1.2 -> 2.1.5. So, is the info for 2.1.4 -> 2.1.5 sufficient? 2) On the Readme OS X- seems to speak to Jaquar and is out of date/ not applicable to 10.3.x? 3) In the Readme, under "create your first list" , the default location is listed as /usr/local/mailman. On my server, it is usr/share/mailman. Should that be changed? I don't have very many lists, and I'm need to delete all members and re-import list menmbers, so I'm happy to wipe it all clean and start from scratch if needed. 4) the dir, usr/share/mailman does not contain everything that I see in the 2.1.5 folder I downloaded. Thx, -- Thomas Waters Director of Information and Communication Services University of Pittsburgh School of Pharmacy 412-383-7471 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pharmacy.pitt.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] overwrite entire list
I have about a dozen lists that I need to dump entirely and import from scratch. I see the ability to do a mass remove- but not sure how to/ what to upload to accomplish that. If I upload a new file will that overwrite or append to the current list? Thx, -- Thomas Waters Director of Information and Communication Services University of Pittsburgh School of Pharmacy 412-383-7471 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pharmacy.pitt.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Global settings for all lists on a server
I am familiar with adding non-member senders to discard/ reject/ ect. lists for individual lists. Is there a way to add users more globally than that- so that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is set to discard from all lists? Thx, -- Thomas Waters Director of Information and Communication Services University of Pittsburgh, School of Pharmacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pharmacy.pitt.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Way to protect web pages
Panther Server/apache + Mailman 2.12 Is it possible to have the list info web pages displayed within a restricted access intranet? Is this an alias issue or mod_rewrite issue? Our webserver host name is www.pharmacy.pitt.edu and all mail and mailman lists are functioning as desired. But, the mailman web pages are displaying at www.pharmacy.pitt.edu/mailman... and I don't want that. What I want is for the pages to be visable via a Vhost, intranet.xxx.. Thx. -- Thomas Waters Director of Information and Communication Services University of Pittsburgh, School of Pharmacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pharmacy.pitt.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Can't find mm_cfg.py
Using a version of MAC OS X.3.3 Server I cannot locate the mm_cfg.py file. Normally, the path is /var/mailman/Mailman , however the entire sub-directory "Mailman" is not in the mailman directory. I had edited this file once before in the aforementioned path however since upgrading from OS X.3.2 to OS X.3.3 I haven't been able to find the "Mailman" directory or the mm_cfg.py file. Suggestions? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] (no subject)
-- Thomas Waters Director of Information and Communication Services University of Pittsburgh, School of Pharmacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pharmacy.pitt.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] problem accessing mailman web pages after switching server
We set up Mailman on Panther Server 10.3.3. It had an IP and hostname for our dev server. Once everything was configured, etc, I switched the IP and name to be our mail server. Mailman is working in terms of sending out mail to the various lists, but I can not access the web pages to admin any of the lists! Attempt to hit www.mysite.edu/mailman/admin opens the page, but says there are no public advertised lists. I can get to any admin config page with www.mysite.edu/mailman/admin/somelist/ but clicking ANY link on the page, attempts to send me to the old dev URL. Maybe this is just a Safari cache problem- but with IE, I get a "connection error occurred." Maybe part of the issue, is the host name list prefers in the general config. hostname of box is rxweb.pharmacy.pitt.edu. The MX record reads that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is directed to rxweb.pharmacy.pitt.edu. so what belongs on the mailman general options config- pharmacy.pitt.edu or rxweb.pharmacy.pitt.edu? so, I guess there are 3 issues- correct listing on the general options page- which should it be, and why the web pages can't be accessed , and why does it say lists are not publicly advertised. thx, -- Thomas Waters Director of Information and Communication Services University of Pittsburgh, School of Pharmacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pharmacy.pitt.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Mailman was running but stopped
Just setting up mailman to run on Panther Server 10.3. Tests running fine last Friday, and expected today to set up the real lists. Today, Mailman won't run at all. Even if the "enable mailing lists is checked, OS X GUI says maillists "disabled. " Have deleted and rebuilt test list, no luck. Have run repair disk and repair permissions. No luck. Not sure what else to try. -- Thomas Waters Director of Information and Communication Services University of Pittsburgh, School of Pharmacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pharmacy.pitt.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
