[Mailman-Users] Migrating Mailman lists from one server to another
We are in the process of upgrading our mailing server with a new machine. This system is also running an updated version of the operating system (RHEL-8 vs RHEL-6.) We have numerous Mailman mailing lists, along with their associated configurations, and archives. Fortunately, the archives are located on a networked file system, so we don't have to move those files. However, I would like to be able to just "copy and paste", if you will, the entire configuration from one server to the other so that we don't have to reconfigure anything. Is this possible? If so, are there any detailed instructions for it posted anywhere? Thanks! -- Tony Stocker -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] What's the /var/spool/mailman/virgin for?
I've got an instance of mailman where the contents of /var/spool/mailman/virgin holds 1.4G of data. I'm just curious what this directory is for to determine what is putting the data there and what's responsible for sending it along. The same directory is empty for most other mailman instances I have access to. Thanks in advance, --Tony -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Altering 'From' address for a list
I've been directed by management to change/munge the 'From' address of a mailing list that is used for announcements to a non-list address. This is in addition to providing the specific 'Reply-to' address via configuration which has already been done. In other words instead of seeing an email with a header like so: Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 13:00:46 -0400 From: Administrators Reply-To: helpd...@mail.pos.net To: : , : Subject: [admin] Test email to something like this: Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 13:00:46 -0400 From: helpd...@mail.pos.net Reply-To: helpd...@mail.pos.net To: : , : Subject: [admin] Test email I'm using Mailman version 2.1.12 with Postfix (version 2.6.6-6.el6_5 provided by RHEL/CentOS package) as the MTA. I have tried setting up /etc/postfix/generic file to munge the address, but no setting that I make has made any difference, things continue to show a 'From:' address as ad...@mail.pos.net and inside the headers I see that the 'Sender:' line looks like this: Sender: admin-boun...@mail.pos.net I've tried the following entries in the /etc/postfix/generic file: ad...@mail.pos.net helpd...@mail.pos.net admin-boun...@mail.pos.net helpd...@mail.pos.net admin-ow...@mail.pos.net helpd...@mail.pos.net ad...@localhost.pos.net helpd...@mail.pos.net admin-boun...@localhost.pos.net helpd...@mail.pos.net admin-ow...@localhost.pos.net helpd...@mail.pos.net admin helpd...@mail.pos.net I *have* added 'smtp_generic_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/generic' to the /etc/postfix/main.cf file and I *have* done 'postmap hash:/etc/postfix/generic' after adding/changing entries and I *have* done /etc/init.d/postfix restart after making the changes. However, the 'From:' and 'Sender:' remain the same when I receive an email from the list, no matter what entries are added to to the generic table. This is all being done so that even if someone chooses to ignore the 'Reply-to' address if they reply to a posted message, it will go to this help desk email address and not to the group. Thanks in advance for your help. Tony -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Clearing Message Queue
How do I clear mailman's outgoing message queue? A message is going out to 2700 users and i need to stop it. I stopped the smtp server for the moment, but I know as soon as I turn it back on mailman will still be queuing up messages. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Not sending any mail and not populating subscribers
I just setup a mailman list on my server and have several people subscribe to the list. However, Mailman is not sending out any Welcome emails to the subscribers, nor are any subscribers listed in the subscribers list in the admin console. I have posted some messages myself as a subscriber, but nothing is going out. Any ideas? Do I need to create a separate email account on the server that matches the email account that mailman created for the list? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. I'm not super technical and am configuring this through the console, not doing any command line. Thanks, Tony -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Bounce Problem, mistyped address
Hi, I've been using mailman now for several years and have migrated my lists from Redhat-9 to Centos-4 and Centos-5. They all seem to be working OK I'm seeing the following errors in my mailman logs smtp log Jan 11 08:00:01 2008 (13841) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp to gsd for 1 recips, completed in 0.029 seconds smtp-failure log Jan 11 08:00:01 2008 (13841) SMTP session failure: 553, 5.1.8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Domain of sender address [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not exist, msgid: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Now I know the problem mail.csidmzs.ul.ie is incorrect. It should be mail.csisdmz.ul.ie. I presume during one of the migrations I must have mistyped something. But does anybody have any idea of where mailman is picking up the mistyped address and how can I sort it out. Regards, Tony -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] HowTo Notes - Mailman and Sendmail Integration
I've recently spent a fair deal of time integrating mailman with
sendmail to automate the creation of alias files.
A number of postings to this list were helpful.
It's all working now, so I thought my notes may be helpful to speed
things up for someone else.
I apologise if there are any mistakes or false steps.
Thanks to the Mailman developers and Ed Greenberg
To be read in conjunction with the mailman installation instructions at
<http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/index.htm>
and the post by Ed Greenberg at
<http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-June/037518.html>
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Step 1
I'm using Apache2, Mailman 2.19 and FreeBSD4 and Python 2.4
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Step 2
As root
#adduser
I used -> user: mailman, group:mailman, password: n
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Step 3
create Installation Directory (as root)
su# cd /usr/local/
su# mkdir mailman
su# chown mailman mailman
su# su mailman
su# cd mailman
su# chgrp mailnull .
su# chmod a+rx,g+ws .
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Step 4
Now, go to the directory where you have downloaded mailman
su# cd /usr/home/x/mailman-2.1.9
Change back to user root
su# su root
You can ascertain the correct option for --with-mail-gid from /etc/
mail/sendmail.cf
su# grep "DefaultUser" /etc/mail/sendmail.cf
=> #O DefaultUser=mailnull
So use mailnull
su# su root
su# make clean
su# configure --with-mail-gid=mailnull
I'm on FreeBSD so use this command
su# make DIRSETGID=: install
Now check permissions
su# cd /usr/local/mailman
su# bin/check_perms -f
My webserver runs as nobody (check httpd.conf on your system to confirm)
su# grep "User " /usr/local/apache2/conf/httpd.conf
=> User nobody
su# cd archives
su# chown nobody private
su# chmod o-x private
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Step 5
Add this to your httpd-vhosts.conf, or httpd.conf depending on which
version of Apache you are using
ServerName lists.practiceimprovement.com.au
TransferLog /dev/null
DocumentRoot /usr/home/lists/htdocs/
ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/
Alias /pipermail/ /usr/local/mailman/archives/public/
and restart apache
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Step 6
Integrating sendmail and mailman
mm-handler would not work for me (after considerable amount of time
trying) - I think because by server was medicine.net.au and the
address I wanted to use was practiceimprovement.org.au,
even though practiceimprovement.org.au was correctly set up on dns to
be delegated to the right server.
So I used Ed Greenberg's approach at
<http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-June/037518.html>
which seems better to me.
Note: On Freebsd I first had to build sudo!
create the file /usr/sbin/mailman.aliases c
su# pico /usr/bin/mailman.aliases
containing the lines below =>
/bin/cp /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases /etc/mail/mailman.aliases
/usr/bin/newaliases
Note: I spent a lot of time bugtesting as I used 'cp' in the
mailman.aliases script rather than /usr/cp
(it worked from the command line but not the web interface)
make it executable
su# chmod 755 /usr/sbin/mailman.aliases
Change your sendmail.cf file to include the new alias file
(for me, add this to medicine.net.au.mc)
define(`ALIAS_FILE', `/etc/mail/aliases,/etc/mail/mailman.aliases')
(and then as root)
su# /etc/mail/make install restart
Update your sudoers file ('nobody' is the user apache runs under -
check your httpd.conf)
su# visudo
add=>
nobody ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases
mailman ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases
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Step 7
my mm_cfg.py has these added
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'practiceimprovement.com.au'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.practiceimprovement.com.au'
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/'
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
IMAGE_LOGOS = '/images/'
MTA='Postfix'
POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/local/bin/sudo /usr/local/sbin/
mailman.aliases'
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = []
Follow the rest of the instructions from step 7 on at ->
<http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/index.html>
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Testing
When you create a list using /bin/newlist, you should find that the
file /etc/mail/mailman.aliases has been created / updated.
(I had some permissions to sort out in a few directories before it all
worked smoothly)
The error log is helpful at /usr/local/mailman/logs/error
These commands can be helpful for troubleshooting, after you have
successfully created a testlist and subscribed yourself to that list
To test mailman
su# echo "From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Happy New Year
test mail body
" | /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post testlist
If that works, use this to test your sendmail/mailman integration
su# echo "From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Merry Xmas
test mail body
" | /bin/sendmail [EMAIL PRO
[Mailman-Users] Looking for an experienced installer
Hi folks, My name's Tony, and I'm the editor at the Royal Institute of Navigation here in London. We used to run a couple of listservs for specific groups of our members, but recently changed both our website and mail server, making these listservs defunct. It turns out that our new mail server package comes with Mailman as a 3rd party application. Neither our web developers, nor our mail server hosts, are able to install Mailman for us, though as none of us in the Institute are developers ourselves, we're advised to get someone to install it for us. I mailed Barry Warsaw and he gave me the list address. I've read the FAQs, but as my query is essentially a plea for help, thought I'd go ahead and post it anyway. I'm just looking for anyone with experience of installing Mailman to get in touch with me to discuss the possibility of this job. Cheers Tony -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Clean up Archives
Hi All, I have a problem with the archives for one of my lists. This is a fun list so people tend to send lots of attachments to it. I know I can delete messages from the list manually by editing the mbox files but I was wondering if it was possibe to "expire the archives" in some way. Regards, Tony -- Tony Molloy. System Manager. Dept. of Comp. Sci. University of Limerick -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help newbie with a common error (smrsh)?
You nailed it. (doh!) See comments below. Thanks again for your help. -Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 10:11 AM To: Tony Croes; mailman-users@python.org Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Help newbie with a common error (smrsh)? Tony Croes wrote: > > Mark Sapiro wrote: > > Yes, the mail is delivered to Mailman. Its appearance in the archive >proves that. Your problem is why is mail from Mailman not getting out. > > Is OutgoingRunner Running? > >I think so. Output from #ps auxww | egrep 'p[y]thon': >mailman 5600 0.0 0.3 11096 3976 ?Ss Oct21 0:00 >/usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s -q start >mailman 5601 0.1 0.8 14692 8584 ?SOct21 2:14 >/usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s >mailman 5602 0.0 0.5 10260 5416 ?SOct21 0:00 >/usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s >mailman 5603 0.0 0.5 11248 5412 ?SOct21 0:00 >/usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=CommandRunner:0:1 -s >mailman 5604 0.0 0.5 11936 5772 ?SOct21 0:04 >/usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s >mailman 5605 0.0 0.5 11208 5440 ?SOct21 0:00 >/usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s >mailman 5606 0.0 0.5 11096 5660 ?SOct21 0:01 >/usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s >mailman 5607 0.0 0.5 12372 5668 ?SOct21 0:00 >/usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s >mailman 5608 0.0 0.5 11356 5408 ?SOct21 0:00 >/usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 >-s Yes. It looks like Outgoing Runner is running. > Mark Sapiro wrote: > > What's in Mailman's 'smtp' and 'smtp-failure' logs? > > Are there entries in mailman's qfiles/out/, qfiles/retry/ and/or >qfiles/shunt queue directories? > > If there are entries in qfiles/shunt/, what's in Mailman's error log. > >There is not an smtp-failure log. This means nothing was ever written to it so it wasn't created yet. >The smtp and error logs are here: >smtp: >Oct 22 16:01:44 2006 (5606) ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp for 1 recips, >completed in 0.465 seconds Oct 22 16:01:44 2006 (5606) ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp for 1 recips, >completed in 0.374 seconds Oct 22 16:02:02 2006 (5606) ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp for 1 recips, >completed in 0.342 seconds The above are delivery of Mailman generated messages, not posts. If they are associated with posts, they may be a message to the poster that the post was held, a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] that the post was held and resend of the -owner message to the actual list owner address. However, you say the posts ARE in the archive, so they aren't being held or if they are, they are being approved. [Tony:] Posts are in the archive. They were held, until I went in and approved them. I did receive the approval request e-mails. >error: >Oct 21 11:52:13 2006 mailmanctl(6580): PID unreadable in: >/var/run/mailman/master-qrunner.pid >Oct 21 11:52:13 2006 mailmanctl(6580): [Errno 2] No such file or directory: >'/var/run/mailman/master-qrunner.pid' >Oct 21 11:52:13 2006 mailmanctl(6580): Is qrunner even running? These are not relevant to your problem. >More newbie questions. Where is ~/qfiles under version 2.1.5? I have not >been able to find it. Is this the equivalent: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# pwd >/var/spool/mailman >[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# ll >total 60 >drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 12288 Oct 22 16:03 archive >drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 20 22:53 bounces >drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 20 23:14 commands >drwxrws--- 2 mailmailman 20480 Oct 22 16:03 in >drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 20 22:53 news >drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 22 16:03 out >drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 20 22:53 retry >drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 20 22:53 shunt >drwxrws--- 2 rootmailman 4096 Oct 22 16:01 virgin > >All of these directories are empty. This is where the RedHat rpm puts them. If you look in mm_cfg.py, you will see definitions of QUEUE_DIR, INQUEUE_DIR, OUTQUEUE_DIR, CMDQUEUE_DIR, BOUNCEQUEUE_DIR, NEWSQUEUE_DIR, ARCHQUEUE_DIR, SHUNTQUEUE_DIR, VIRGINQUEUE_DIR, BADQUEUE_DIR and RETRYQUEUE_DIR that define the location. Anyway, the fact that they are all empty means Mailman has finished processing the message - it is not queued anywhere for further processing. It could be 'held
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help newbie with a common error (smrsh)?
Thanks Mark. Answers and questions below. Mark Sapiro wrote: >When I look at the archives, I see repeated posts from Cron ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the following error: > >"/bin/sh: mailman: command not found" This error is due to improper installation of Mailman's crontab and has nothing to do with your missing emails. RedHat makes a crontab which they intend to be installed as /etc/cron.d/mailman. Thus, the crontab contains the userid (mailman) under which to run the command in field 6 and the command in field 7. You have installed this as the crontab for the mailman user. User crontab entries do not have the userid in field 6. I think I have fixed this error. I checked and found a mailman cron file in /var/spool/cron (where user based files are stored). I deleted this file. I do have the other cron file /etc/cron.d/mailman. After deleting the user entry, the previous error has not reappeared. Mark Sapiro wrote: Yes, the mail is delivered to Mailman. Its appearance in the archive proves that. Your problem is why is mail from Mailman not getting out. Is OutgoingRunner Running? I think so. Output from #ps auxww | egrep 'p[y]thon': mailman 5600 0.0 0.3 11096 3976 ?Ss Oct21 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s -q start mailman 5601 0.1 0.8 14692 8584 ?SOct21 2:14 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5602 0.0 0.5 10260 5416 ?SOct21 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5603 0.0 0.5 11248 5412 ?SOct21 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=CommandRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5604 0.0 0.5 11936 5772 ?SOct21 0:04 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5605 0.0 0.5 11208 5440 ?SOct21 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5606 0.0 0.5 11096 5660 ?SOct21 0:01 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5607 0.0 0.5 12372 5668 ?SOct21 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5608 0.0 0.5 11356 5408 ?SOct21 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s Mark Sapiro wrote: What's in Mailman's 'smtp' and 'smtp-failure' logs? Are there entries in mailman's qfiles/out/, qfiles/retry/ and/or qfiles/shunt queue directories? If there are entries in qfiles/shunt/, what's in Mailman's error log. There is not an smtp-failure log. The smtp and error logs are here: smtp: Oct 22 16:01:44 2006 (5606) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.465 seconds Oct 22 16:01:44 2006 (5606) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.374 seconds Oct 22 16:02:02 2006 (5606) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.342 seconds error: Oct 21 11:52:13 2006 mailmanctl(6580): PID unreadable in: /var/run/mailman/master-qrunner.pid Oct 21 11:52:13 2006 mailmanctl(6580): [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/run/mailman/master-qrunner.pid' Oct 21 11:52:13 2006 mailmanctl(6580): Is qrunner even running? More newbie questions. Where is ~/qfiles under version 2.1.5? I have not been able to find it. Is this the equivalent: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# pwd /var/spool/mailman [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# ll total 60 drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 12288 Oct 22 16:03 archive drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 20 22:53 bounces drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 20 23:14 commands drwxrws--- 2 mailmailman 20480 Oct 22 16:03 in drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 20 22:53 news drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 22 16:03 out drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 20 22:53 retry drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 20 22:53 shunt drwxrws--- 2 rootmailman 4096 Oct 22 16:01 virgin All of these directories are empty. Regards, Tony Croes -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Help newbie with a common error (smrsh)?
I have just installed mailman on a RHEL4 system from the RedHat network via RPM. I can reach the list and admin tools via the web (i.e. cgi working). I can create lists, add new users and submit posts. However, these posts only show up in the web archives. I'm not getting them as forwarded email messages. When I look at the archives, I see repeated posts from Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the following error: "/bin/sh: mailman: command not found" I've tried to follow the faq (3.14 Troubleshooting: No mail going out to list members), but so far no luck. Here is some additional information: mailman exists and is executable (tried as root): [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman Usage: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman program [args...] [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# file mailman mailman: setgid ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# ll mailman -rwxrwsr-x 1 root mailman 19154 Aug 23 07:22 mailman "smrsh" symlink: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# ls /etc/smrsh/ mailman [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# file /etc/smrsh/mailman /etc/smrsh/mailman: symbolic link to `/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman' I have these aliases. I commented out the first two which must have been put there by the RPM install. I have not tried commenting out the duplicates lower in the list and leaving the originals in: # mailman aliases # mailman: postmaster # mailman-owner: mailman # mailman mailing list mailman: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman" mailman-admin: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman" mailman-bounces: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman" mailman-confirm: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman" mailman-join: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman" mailman-leave: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman" mailman-owner: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman" mailman-request: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman" mailman-subscribe: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman" mailman-unsubscribe: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman" This is the kind of output I get when I tail maillog: Oct 21 12:27:14 server sendmail[19396]: k9LHRDWj019396: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED] al.net>, size=1676, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED] .ctrcc.com>, proto=SMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=smtp102.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.14 2.198.201] Oct 21 12:27:15 server MailScanner[11624]: New Batch: Scanning 1 messages, 2280 bytes Oct 21 12:27:21 server MailScanner[11624]: Virus and Content Scanning: Starting Oct 21 12:27:23 server MailScanner[11624]: Uninfected: Delivered 1 messages Oct 21 12:27:23 server MailScanner[11624]: Batch (1 message) processed in 7.97 s econds Oct 21 12:27:24 server sendmail[19580]: k9LHRDWj019396: to="| /usr/lib/mailman/m ail/mailman post mailman", ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (8/0), delay=00:00 :10, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=121676, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent Thanks for your help. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Help newbie with a common error (smrsh)?
I have just installed mailman on a RHEL4 system from the RedHat network via RPM. I can reach the list and admin tools via the web (i.e. cgi working). I can create lists, add new users and submit posts. However, these posts only show up in the web archives. I'm not getting them as forwarded email messages. When I look at the archives, I see repeated posts from Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the following error: "/bin/sh: mailman: command not found" I've tried to follow the faq (3.14 Troubleshooting: No mail going out to list members), but so far no luck. Here is some additional information: mailman exists and is executable (tried as root): [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman Usage: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman program [args...] [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# file mailman mailman: setgid ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# ll mailman -rwxrwsr-x 1 root mailman 19154 Aug 23 07:22 mailman "smrsh" symlink: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# ls /etc/smrsh/ mailman [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# file /etc/smrsh/mailman /etc/smrsh/mailman: symbolic link to `/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman' I have these aliases. I commented out the first two which must have been put there by the RPM install. I have not tried commenting out the duplicates lower in the list and leaving the originals in: # mailman aliases # mailman: postmaster # mailman-owner: mailman # mailman mailing list mailman: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman" mailman-admin: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman" mailman-bounces: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman" mailman-confirm: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman" mailman-join: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman" mailman-leave: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman" mailman-owner: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman" mailman-request: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman" mailman-subscribe: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman" mailman-unsubscribe: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman" This is the kind of output I get when I tail maillog: Oct 21 12:27:14 server sendmail[19396]: k9LHRDWj019396: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED] al.net>, size=1676, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED] .ctrcc.com>, proto=SMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=smtp102.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.14 2.198.201] Oct 21 12:27:15 server MailScanner[11624]: New Batch: Scanning 1 messages, 2280 bytes Oct 21 12:27:21 server MailScanner[11624]: Virus and Content Scanning: Starting Oct 21 12:27:23 server MailScanner[11624]: Uninfected: Delivered 1 messages Oct 21 12:27:23 server MailScanner[11624]: Batch (1 message) processed in 7.97 s econds Oct 21 12:27:24 server sendmail[19580]: k9LHRDWj019396: to="| /usr/lib/mailman/m ail/mailman post mailman", ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (8/0), delay=00:00 :10, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=121676, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent Thanks for your help. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with abusive user...
Are you sure that he's receiving the list emails directly? Is it possible that he has a confederate or sympathizer on the list who is forwarding him the original list emails that he is then forging replies to? I would double-check to make sure that even list members cannot see the addresses of other list members, because he may have gotten the email addresses that way. Your original idea of a 'red herring' message with a per-address uniquie identifier is theoretically sound, but it would have to be a message such that it would entice your abusive user to respond to it in order to find your 'leak'. The other responses have the best approach I think. If you don't have Terms of Service already that people had to agree to, then you need to retroactively come up with some, inform your users and require that they respond in the affirmative to the new rules or they're removed from the list. Then if the abuse continues, you definitely need to bite the bullet and move this towards legal action. I think this is especially true depending on what activities of the person lead you to categorize it as cyberstalking. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Web refreshes but does not apply changes
> I disabled the SSL rewrite rule in the httpd.conf file, and tried > again and it worked. So the Mailman program doesn't like something > about the URL's getting rewritten I'm guessing. However, I don't want > to run this program "in the clear" - or any programs really for this > server - so what do I need to do to fix this issue? Any ideas? > Okay for the sake of posterity here's the fix that I've found: Modify mm_cfg.py: DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/' [NOTE the 's' in 'https'] Then run: $prefix/bin/withlist -l -a -r fix_url [This is to fix the URL's in any lists you've created.] I then reenabled my rewrite condition in httpd.conf. Then restarted Apache. As the saying goes I should have RTFM before posting, sorry about that. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Web refreshes but does not apply changes
> I doubt that that's very helpful, but thought I'd add it anyway. It's > a little confusing to me since I don't know how/why it thinks it's > going to send stuff over an unencrypted channel since all connections > are supposed to be routed to the https port. But I'm wondering if > that rewriting of the destination could be the problem. I'm going to > temporarily comment out the rewrite and see what happens. Well that's what it is. I disabled the SSL rewrite rule in the httpd.conf file, and tried again and it worked. So the Mailman program doesn't like something about the URL's getting rewritten I'm guessing. However, I don't want to run this program "in the clear" - or any programs really for this server - so what do I need to do to fix this issue? Any ideas? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Web refreshes but does not apply changes
FWIW here's the actual popup warning message that I get from Netscape upon trying to submite my changes: --- Although this page is encrypted, the information you have entered is to be sent over an unencrypted connection and could easily be read by a third party. Are you sure you want to continue sending this information? --- I doubt that that's very helpful, but thought I'd add it anyway. It's a little confusing to me since I don't know how/why it thinks it's going to send stuff over an unencrypted channel since all connections are supposed to be routed to the https port. But I'm wondering if that rewriting of the destination could be the problem. I'm going to temporarily comment out the rewrite and see what happens. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Web refreshes but does not apply changes
> > You have to have cookies enabled in your browser. If you do not, it won't > work. > > Dragon I do have cookies enabled, and just to doublecheck I turned off the privacy settings and set it to allow all cookies but the results were the same. I have also since tried a second browser program but the results are the same. I've now tried Netscape 7.2 and Firefox 1.0.2. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Web refreshes but does not apply changes
Hello, I'm setting up Mailman and have a bit of a difficulty. I've sent a 'subscribe' email to a list, and received back that it's awaiting admin approval. I login to the web page, go to the Pending Requests section and see the subscribe request. I then click the accept radio button and the Submit All Data. But all that happens is that I get a security warning window about encrypted communication and the web page refreshes and resets itself. I can't find anything in the httpd log files, the mailman log files, or the system log files that explain why this happens. This happens no matter which action button I choose, accept, decline, etc. I've installed packages rather than compiled from scratch so here are my relevant version stats: postfix-2.1.5-4.2.RHEL4 httpd-2.0.52-22.ent mailman-2.1.5.1-34.rhel4.3 Also this appears there is a similar problem when I go to list management and attempt to add addresses via the mass subscriptions. In this case, I fill in the information and choose submit changes, and then it just blanks out the entries and presents the page again. FWIW: I have added a change to the httpd.conf file to rewrite all http: requests to https: requests. Any ideas? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting duplicates when people CC list
I just wanted to close this old topic with a thanks to Bryan Carbonnell (and anyone else) who successfully diagnosed the issue of mail duplication as mis-configured Outlook rules rather than a problem with mailman processing CC, reply-to, etc.. Thanks to anyone who responded. I'll go flog myself once for every person who's time has been wasted here. :) Tony Bryan Carbonnell wrote: > Just to recap the details as I recall them > > 1) You are the only one seeing the duplicate e-mails > 2) You are using Outlook. > 3) Duplicate e-mails are idendical down to the header level. > 4) Only happens on 1 list. > 5) Only happens when the list is in the CC header. > > If all the above are correct, check your Outlook rules. Outlook may be > the cause of the duplicates. > > I've spent a TON of time trying to diagnose this for one user and it > turned out it was her Outlook rules that caused the duplicate. > > I don't use Outlook myself, but try disabling the rule for a while and > see if the duplicates still happen. If not, then recreate the rule. > > I know this isn't Mailman related, but I think that this may be a good > cause for the archive. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] alias.db not getting updated
I've recently added a mailman list and have run bin/genaliases and put that data in the data/aliases and restarted both postfix and mailman. Apparently this isn't updating the alias.db which explains why all 'old' lists still work but any new ones don't. Any ideas on what I may have done wrong here? --Tony __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting duplicates when people CC list
Mark Sapiro wrote: > .. you said when you receive duplicates, the list was > addressed twice in the post, once in To: and once in Cc:. Thus, I am > suggesting that the list actually receives the post twice and sends > it twice and that's why you get two copies. I mis-spoke. It only occurs in that one list when someone CC's the list. I would understand if it were in both TO _and_ CC. Since all lists and MUA's are different, people don't know whether to Reply or Reply-All, so it's 50/50 whether the list address will be in the TO _or_ CC, but most people know to not double up. > There may be something here with digests too, but I don't think so. I have not asked about digests but I don't think I'll find anything there either. > The process of your not getting a dup when I address my reply to both > you and the list IS a Mailman process. You only get the direct message > from me because you have requested no dups, and Mailman sees your > address in the To: of my post so it doesn't send to you. > > This is not the case on the other list where maybe the list receives > the post twice. Remember that I am not involved in the discussions where I get the dupes. I understand the mailman code filters possible dupes when TO = a subscription address. I have confirmation from a single Outlook user that I get dupes when they do not. (I wish I had a larger sampling of responses over a longer period of time but I'll take what I can get.) This points to an MTA issue and not list or MUA. I am now checking in that area. Again the problem is that I only get dupes to this one address when the list is in the CC. I can't believe an MTA bug would be that specific so it might be some timing issue, a hiccup during greylisting processing, etc. > I don't think it's Mailman per se, but I can't be sure without knowing > what is happening. I still think it could be actually two copies of > the post reaching the list, but the fact that no one else on the list > admits to receiving dups makes this seem unlikely. I would like to > help you get to the bottom of this if I can. > > I think the next thing is to collect both copies of some duplicated > posts with full headers and examine the Received: chains in each to > try to determine where the duplication is occurring. If you need help > with this, you can post headers from duplicated posts to this list or > send them to me off list, and I will try to help. Over the last month or two I have been going over the headers myself and the headers on each copy of the mails are exactly the same: same Received path and time stamps, and same Message-ID (!!). The only pattern between what generates dupes and what does not is that the list address is in the CC of duped mails - but only on that list, not in this mailman-users list. :( Please allow me a few days to pursue the MTA route and I'll post a note here to let you know if I find anything. Based on your comments and info from the other list I'm fairly convinced that I shouldn't be wasting any more of your collective time. But I will let you know what I find out. Thank you kindly for your dedicated interest. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting duplicates when people CC list
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Brad has already provided good information in his reply. I just want > to add that it looks to me like in this case, the sender's MUA is > actually giving the list address twice (once for To: and once for Cc:) > to the MTA, and the MTA is not dropping the duplicate recipient. Thus, > two copies of the post are actually being sent to the list. As I mentioned in my response to Brad, I'm not even involved in the discussions where I'm getting the dupes. This would be an obvious source of duplication. I'm just another quiet recipient to the list (hehe, until now anyway) and there's no reason for me to be explicitly identified in the TO or CC. > Do the > duplicates appear twice in archives and/or digests? (I think the > duplicate may be dropped from the archives if the message-id is the > same, but I'm not sure). No, only one copy of every post is in the archives and no one else is reporting dupes. > Other subscribers may not see this because their incoming MTA/MUA may > drop duplicate message-ids. As with most OSS projects there is a heavy bias away from Microsoft software, including Outlook which I use. Chances are slim that others in this OSS forum are using Outlook and thus their MUAs might be filtering away the problem. So I was suspecting my MUA. However, I do not get dupes when people in this mailman-users list CC the list but I do get some dupes from that group - obviously the same MTA/MUA tiers are involved. This is why I have been suspecting something in the list software that is different. Maybe there's a patch or addin that they've installed that corrupted this dupe-filtering code? That's what brought me here - Until now I've had no idea if this was an issue specific to that group or something that was introduced in the v2.1.5 code that you guys would know or want to know about. Thanks again. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting duplicates when people CC list
Brad Knowles wrote: > Tony G wrote: > >> I do not get dupes of all mails otherwise I'd suspect double >> subscription. The Avoid Duplicates flag is set. This only happens >> for mails that have the list in the CC - I understand the dupe >> flag is for when people use ReplyAll and the recipient is in both >> the list of subscribers and the CC for the mail. > > It's not just the recipient, but the exact same recipient > address. So, if you're subscribed to the list with one address, and > they cc: a different address of yours, then the system has no way to > tell that these are both the same person. No one on this list has any other address of mine and the dupes aren't to threads where I have posted. Checking with individuals and the headers I am not being sent mail from anywhere except mailman. >> I believe the code is supposed to filter duplicate >> Message-IDs to a given recipient no matter how those dupes are >> generated, but I'm getting them. Any ideas? > > No, the code doesn't work at the Message-ID level. It works at > the level of the listed recipients in the To: and CC: headers. I was mislead by discussions like these: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2001-August/009467.htm l> <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2002-March/010911.html > And this code referred to in one of those threads: <http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/Current/mailman-117/mailman/M ailman/Handlers/AvoidDuplicates.py> > If you want filtering done at the Message-ID level, then you need > to apply that on your end -- either use a program like procmail to > filter all your incoming mail, or set up your MUA to discard > duplicates, etc > > There's nothing more that Mailman can do to help you. I am filtering the dupes. What confuses me is that they are only coming from one list that uses mailman. You sent TO me and CC'd the list but I only got one copy as one would hope. It's for this reason that I suspect that this other list (mono-list at ximian) have some broken version of Mailman. Of course they put the blame back on my server or MUA. All I'm trying to do here is diagnose and help people to fix open source software. Isn't that why we're all here? Thanks. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Getting duplicates when people CC list
It seems I am getting duplicate messages from mailman v2.1.5 when senders send both TO and CC to the list. For some reason no one else in the list is acknowledging this issue so I look like an idiot complaining about it, but I'm seeing several instances of it per day. I do not get dupes of all mails otherwise I'd suspect double subscription. The Avoid Duplicates flag is set. This only happens for mails that have the list in the CC - I understand the dupe flag is for when people use ReplyAll and the recipient is in both the list of subscribers and the CC for the mail. I believe the code is supposed to filter duplicate Message-IDs to a given recipient no matter how those dupes are generated, but I'm getting them. Any ideas? Thank you kindly. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman configured and only sending out some of the emails
Ok, after changing permissions it all seems to be working. Thanks for letting me think out loud (and sorry to those who are undoubtedly annoyed by it). --Tony Tony Bibbs wrote: > Never mind, figured out the log question. So this is the error I'm > getting: > > Apr 17 12:15:03 2006 (1502) SHUNTING: > 1145294101.5488031+e9c18ef880510ac8186a9ea4e5f5dff47cb0a8ba > Apr 17 12:18:27 2006 (1502) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13] > Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/lists/geeklog-devel/digest.mbox' > Apr 17 12:18:27 2006 (1502) Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop > self._onefile(msg, msgdata) > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in _onefile > keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, > in _dispose > more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, > in _dopipeline > sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 77, in > process > mboxfp = open(mboxfile, 'a+') > IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: > '/usr/local/mailman/lists/geeklog-devel/digest.mbox' > > Apr 17 12:18:28 2006 (1502) SHUNTING: > 1145294306.939+1b7de0b89ad3559af8913ac854c7c5440c8e8339 > > Related to that, here is the permissions on digest.mbox: > > -rw-r- 1 rootmailman 20561 Apr 14 13:43 digest.mbox > > What should it be? mailman:mailman? Shouldn't check_perms find this? > > --Tony > > Tony Bibbs wrote: >> >> Patrick Bogen wrote: >>> This looks okay. Is that command path correct? >> Yes, that path is fine >> >>> Can you check the mailman logs to see if anything is amiss? >> Okay, newbie question, but I don't see an individual mailman log file. >> Where does mailman log by default? Apparently it isn't maillog nor >> messages AFAICT. >> >> --Tony >> -- >> Mailman-Users mailing list >> Mailman-Users@python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >> Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py >> Searchable Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ >> Unsubscribe: >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/tony%40tonybibbs.com >> >> Security Policy: >> http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman configured and only sending out some of the emails
Never mind, figured out the log question. So this is the error I'm getting: Apr 17 12:15:03 2006 (1502) SHUNTING: 1145294101.5488031+e9c18ef880510ac8186a9ea4e5f5dff47cb0a8ba Apr 17 12:18:27 2006 (1502) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/lists/geeklog-devel/digest.mbox' Apr 17 12:18:27 2006 (1502) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in _dispose more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 77, in process mboxfp = open(mboxfile, 'a+') IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/lists/geeklog-devel/digest.mbox' Apr 17 12:18:28 2006 (1502) SHUNTING: 1145294306.939+1b7de0b89ad3559af8913ac854c7c5440c8e8339 Related to that, here is the permissions on digest.mbox: -rw-r- 1 rootmailman 20561 Apr 14 13:43 digest.mbox What should it be? mailman:mailman? Shouldn't check_perms find this? --Tony Tony Bibbs wrote: > > Patrick Bogen wrote: >> This looks okay. Is that command path correct? > Yes, that path is fine > >> Can you check the mailman logs to see if anything is amiss? > Okay, newbie question, but I don't see an individual mailman log file. > Where does mailman log by default? Apparently it isn't maillog nor > messages AFAICT. > > --Tony > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > Mailman-Users@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/tony%40tonybibbs.com > > Security Policy: > http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman configured and only sending out some of the emails
Patrick Bogen wrote: > This looks okay. Is that command path correct? Yes, that path is fine > Can you check the mailman logs to see if anything is amiss? Okay, newbie question, but I don't see an individual mailman log file. Where does mailman log by default? Apparently it isn't maillog nor messages AFAICT. --Tony -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman configured and only sending out some of the emails
I've just rebuilt a server with mailman 2.1.8. I've got all my old lists copied over an everything is mostly working except that mailman isn't sending some of the messages. Specifically, it IS sending messages regarding posts that need admin moderation. It isn't sending messages sent to the lists. Here is what I get in my maillog. Any ideas on how to troubleshoot this further? --Tony Apr 17 11:26:16 iowaoutdoors postfix/smtpd[1876]: ctable_locate: leave existing entry key [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 17 11:26:16 iowaoutdoors postfix/smtpd[1876]: maps_find: recipient_canonical_maps: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: not found Apr 17 11:26:16 iowaoutdoors postfix/smtpd[1876]: mail_addr_find: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> (not found) Apr 17 11:26:16 iowaoutdoors postfix/smtpd[1876]: maps_find: canonical_maps: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: not found Apr 17 11:26:16 iowaoutdoors postfix/smtpd[1876]: mail_addr_find: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> (not found) Apr 17 11:26:16 iowaoutdoors postfix/smtpd[1876]: maps_find: virtual_alias_maps: hash:/var/mailman/data/virtual-mailman(0,100): [EMAIL PROTECTED] = geeklog-devel Apr 17 11:26:16 iowaoutdoors postfix/smtpd[1876]: mail_addr_find: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> geeklog-devel Apr 17 11:26:19 iowaoutdoors amavis[1581]: (01581-02) Passed CLEAN, LOCAL [127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, mail_id: 03Nq8hVPFrK3, Hits: -1.387, 3456 ms Apr 17 11:26:19 iowaoutdoors postfix/smtp[1909]: 2737E5F71: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, orig_to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1], delay=3, status=sent (250 2.6.0 Ok, id=01581-02, from MTA([127.0.0.1]:10025): 250 Ok: queued as 7C8002357B) Apr 17 11:26:20 iowaoutdoors postfix/local[1914]: 7C8002357B: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post geeklog-devel) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] admin email interface
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[Mailman-Users] admin email interface
I see docs for the email interface for members of a list (subscribe, unscubscribe, etc). Are there equivalents for the administration functions (add list, remove list, list admins, list lists, etc)? The goal is to integrate a 3rd party application to use Mailman without having to have a person physically create and administer the list through the web interface. --Tony __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] (no subject)
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Include full name or description to the From address
Thank you. I am running at 2.1.5 and do not have this behavior. It is running as anonymous but because of the Outlook crazyness I had to make a change to SMTPDirect.py. Maybe that is why things are not working as expected. At least I have something to look at. On 2/2/06, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tony Sciortino wrote: > > >Is there a way to add a full name or the mail list description to the > from > >adress. > > > >Instead of seeing > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >You would see > > > >From: My List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > I'm assuming this is an anonymous list (anonymous_list = Yes) so the > From: is replaced with the list address. > > If this is the case and the list has a description (A terse phrase > identifying this list.) , e.g. My List, the from will look like > > From: My List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > in recent versions of Mailman (2.1.6 and above). > > -- > Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan > > -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Include full name or description to the From address
Is there a way to add a full name or the mail list description to the from adress. Instead of seeing From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You would see From: My List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] List suddenly stops working
Ok, I have two domains, example1.com and example2.com. All lists I've created using example1.com seem to be working fine. I created a new list but changed the domain for that list only to be example2.com. Well, the problem is that the new list works for a while and then magically stops. I delete the list, re-add it and add the members to it and it works for a while and dies again. The maillog shows a similar pattern. I see the message come in, I see the messages to the members go out and when it stops I see the message come in and then nothing. Any idea on the problem or how to diagnose? --Tony __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Fix defacement
I know busy day for posting for me. I had my mailman site defaced. The /path/to/mailman/archives/public//index.html pages have all been replaced by crap. How do I recover those pages? --Tony __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] messages not sending
I had my mailman installation working yesterday at one point. At some point somebody pointed out that none of the archives were available because of 403 forbidden errors. The apache log indicated that the problem was that symlinks were not allowed...after hours of digging around this was a permissions issues. So after having got that fixed, the lists are no longer sending mail. I'm using postfix and getting this back from the maillog after attempting to send the message: postfix/local[13131]: 011D527007C: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, orig_to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post geeklog-devel) However, nothing actually happens. I've ran check_perms and all is well so what else should I be checking? --Tony __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] config.db to config.pck?
Nevermind, if I do a bin/list_members that seemed to trigger creating the config.pck Thanks! --Tony --- Tony Bibbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what do you mean by 'the first time the list is > instantiated'? I already have the lists so this > route > will be slick if I can get it to work. > > --Tony > > --- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tony Bibbs wrote: > > > I've got a server running mailman 2.0.13 and I'd > > like > > > to move all the lists over to a new server > running > > > 2.1.5. I've got all the lists and archives > moved > > over > > > but none of the email addresses from the old > > server > > > are in the lists on the new server. I noticed > > that > > > config.db in 2.0.13 has been replace with > > config.pck > > > in 2.1.5. How do I convert those? > > > > Don't create new lists on the new server first. If > > you have, remove the > > config.pck and config.pck.last. If 2.1.5 finds > only > > config.db, it will > > convert it automatically the first time the list > is > > instantiated. > > > > -- > > Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway > is > > for gamblers, > > San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use > > your sense - B. Dylan > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > Mailman-Users@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: > http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/tony_bibbs%40yahoo.com > > Security Policy: > http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] config.db to config.pck?
what do you mean by 'the first time the list is instantiated'? I already have the lists so this route will be slick if I can get it to work. --Tony --- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tony Bibbs wrote: > > I've got a server running mailman 2.0.13 and I'd > like > > to move all the lists over to a new server running > > 2.1.5. I've got all the lists and archives moved > over > > but none of the email addresses from the old > server > > are in the lists on the new server. I noticed > that > > config.db in 2.0.13 has been replace with > config.pck > > in 2.1.5. How do I convert those? > > Don't create new lists on the new server first. If > you have, remove the > config.pck and config.pck.last. If 2.1.5 finds only > config.db, it will > convert it automatically the first time the list is > instantiated. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is > for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use > your sense - B. Dylan > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] config.db to config.pck?
I've got a server running mailman 2.0.13 and I'd like to move all the lists over to a new server running 2.1.5. I've got all the lists and archives moved over but none of the email addresses from the old server are in the lists on the new server. I noticed that config.db in 2.0.13 has been replace with config.pck in 2.1.5. How do I convert those? I saw a note in the archives about using bin/update but that does nothing for me (as I assume that is in the case where you have upgrade the server as opposed to moving them to a different server all together). Please advise. --Tony __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Posfix/Mailman "relay access denied"
When sending mail to a test list I setup I get "relay access denied". The maillog looks like this: www root # tail /var/log/maillog Apr 18 15:07:43 www postfix/smtpd[4435]: generic_checks: name=reject_unauth_destination status=2 Apr 18 15:07:43 www postfix/smtpd[4435]: > web90110.mail.scd.yahoo.com[66.218.94.81]: 554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Relay access denied Apr 18 15:07:43 www postfix/smtpd[4435]: watchdog_pat: 0x80af220 Apr 18 15:07:43 www postfix/smtpd[4435]: < web90110.mail.scd.yahoo.com[66.218.94.81]: QUIT Apr 18 15:07:43 www postfix/smtpd[4435]: > web90110.mail.scd.yahoo.com[66.218.94.81]: 221 Bye Apr 18 15:07:43 www postfix/smtpd[4435]: disconnect from web90110.mail.scd.yahoo.com[66.218.94.81] Apr 18 15:07:43 www postfix/smtpd[4435]: master_notify: status 1 Apr 18 15:07:43 www postfix/smtpd[4435]: connection closed Apr 18 15:07:43 www postfix/smtpd[4435]: watchdog_stop: 0x80af220 Apr 18 15:07:43 www postfix/smtpd[4435]: watchdog_start: 0x80af220 I assume this is somehow suggesting I don't have the virtual domain setup right but I'm not sure what I need to tweak. --Tony -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrating lists to new server...
Yeah, I was pretty sure I did as I used scp's -r option to do it. I may have to do it over...probably missed something obvious. --Tony Larry Rosenman wrote: Did you copy the entire /lists directory AND IT'S SUBDIRECTORIES? (I just did this exact thing for a client). -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrating lists to new server...
Well, I had already created the aliases. The problem is the addresses really didn't come with them. What file(s) are the addresses kept in so I can verify this? --Tony Jim Tittsler wrote: On Apr 13, 2005, at 22:40, Tony Bibbs wrote: I'm trying to successfully migrate all lists and associated accounts over to a new server. I copied everythign in the /lists and /data directories. This seemed to produce the lists just fine but none of the addresses tied to each list came with them. Thoughts? (You will probably also want to copy the archives and mm_cfg.py customizations.) If you copied the contents of the lists directory, that contains all of the subscriber addresses. If you mean the addresses to reach the mailing lists, you will also need to copy or recreate all of the aliases that pipe mail into mailman (unless you use an MTA scheme that automatically detects the lists, which is most common for Exim users). the bin/genaliases command can (re)build the complete list of aliases for your lists. (If you are using Postfix, you will also want to tell it where to find the aliases in the data directory... details are in README.POSTFIX.) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Migrating lists to new server...
I'm trying to successfully migrate all lists and associated accounts over to a new server. I copied everythign in the /lists and /data directories. This seemed to produce the lists just fine but none of the addresses tied to each list came with them. Thoughts? --Tony -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman installation across two servers
Hi I like to keep my setup simple here. Web servers run apache. Mail servers run sendmail. The two are never mixed. Is there a way to install mailman such that its web interface can be on the web boxes, and the mail processing is handled by the mail boxes? If not, how would you normally aproach this? Install apache on the mail server or sendmail on the web server? Thanks Tony -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Using mailman to create a readonly archive
I have a mailing list on the inside of my company and need to create a readonly replica on the outside. Unfortunately the list inside is not running mailman so I cannot just move the flat files. I know I can create the external archive as a user on the internal site and receive messages this way, but I have another question on this. I need users to be able to subscribe/unsubscribe using the external site as well. How can I redirect everything so that the subscription requests are sent to the internal server instead of being handled locally? I have already changed the mailto: link, but we would like to use the webform as well. Thanks in advance: Tony Ricciotti -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Inital mailman list
I installed and configured Mailman. Then according to the install guide I created the initial mailman list using: ./bin/newlist mailman Then I started the daemon and checked it was running. I'm trying to subscribe myself to the inital mailman list, as it says in the install guide, but when I click on the list either on the "mailing lists" page or the "list admin overview" page nothing happens. I've created a test list and it seems to work OK so the installation seems to be fine. How do I subscribe to the initial mailman mailing list. Regards, Tony -- Tony Molloy. Dept. of Comp. Sci. University of Limerick -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: FW: [Mailman-Users] No Bounce Notification
Thank you very much for your input Mark. Stephen, will you please verify the MTA settings and correct if necessary. Regards, Tony -Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 1:08 PM To: Tony; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FW: [Mailman-Users] No Bounce Notification Tony wrote: >Attached is most of the log file. Please let me know if anyone finds >anything out of the ordinary. > >bounce:Sep 15 00:10:26 2004 (3629) testlist_thetrick.us: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = >bounce score: 1.0 >bounce:Sep 15 00:25:27 2004 (3629) testlist_thetrick.us: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = >bounce score: 1.0 >bounce:Sep 15 00:25:27 2004 (3629) sending testlist_thetrick.us list = >probe to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (score 1.0 >=3D 0.5) >bounce:Sep 15 00:25:27 2004 (3629) testlist_thetrick.us: = >[EMAIL PROTECTED] bounce score: 1.0 >bounce:Sep 15 00:25:27 2004 (3629) sending testlist_thetrick.us list = >probe to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (score 1.0 >=3D 0.5) A new feature in 2.1.5 is that before disabling or unsubscribing, bounce processing sends a VERP-like probe message to the bouncing address to confirm bouncing. If this probe doesn't bounce, the bounce processing is not continued. Apparently, there is a problem with your MTA receiving the bounced VERP-like probes and they are getting lost. >From the Mailman 2.1.5 NEWS file: - The bounce processor has been redesigned so that now when an address's bounce score reaches the threshold, that address will be sent a probe message. Only if the probe bounces will the address be disabled. The score is reset to zero when the probe is sent. Also, bounce events are now kept in an event file instead of in memory. This should help contain the bloat of the BounceRunner. New supporting variables in Defaults.py: VERP_PROBE_FORMAT, VERP_PROBE_REGEXP REGISTER_BOUNCES_EVERY is promoted to a Defaults.py variable. Basically, the probe is sent with envelope from -bounces+@ The outgoing MTA needs to preserve this envelope from address. When the delivery of the probe bounces, it is returned to the probe's envelope from address. The incoming MTA needs to be aware of the "+" delimiter so that it will deliver the bounce to the -bounces address with the intact. This would be in your MTA configuration somewhere. -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
FW: [Mailman-Users] No Bounce Notification
Attached is most of the log file. Please let me know if anyone finds anything out of the ordinary. Regards, Tony -Original Message- From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 2:41 PM To: Mark Sapiro; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] No Bounce Notification See comments below: It appears without the knowing what the logs are saying, there is little that can be done. I have logged a case with the helpdesk and will let you know the results. Thanks again for your help and responses. At least I understand a bit of what is going on. Regards, Tony >Thanks for the info and your help Mark. I have done some looking at the >Cpanel site, but will do some more. > >I sent the test message per your instructions and as a result, the list >owner received this message: >- >Subject: Uncaught bounce notification >The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce >format was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted >from it. This mailing list has been configured to send all >unrecognized bounce messages to the list administrator(s). > >For more information see: >http://domain.com/mailman/admin/list1_domain.com/bounce >- > >It appears the bounce process is processing the messages, but is only >forwarding on unrecognized messages. What is it doing with recognized >bounce messages? Yes, the message above is exactly the expected result for an unrecognized bounce. For a recognized bounce, bounce processing should note the bounce in the bounce log I've mentioned before (actually, it does this for the unrecognized bounces as well). It then updates the bounce score for the user and takes any appropriate action as determined by the options on the Bounce Processing page for the list. The settings you reported earlier in this thread should unsubscribe the user and notify the list owner on the first bounce. >The settings in Cpanel are minimal and the settings in Mailman appear to be >correct. I prefer not going to the webhoster helpdesk blind without having >a sense of the problem. Does the above statement of the problem appear to >be accurate? Anyone have any additional thoughts? My thoughts are: 1) Is the list actually sending mail? (I assume you would be asking different questions if it weren't, but assumptions are always risky.) -Tony- Yes, mail is being sent to the "one" good address on this testlist 2) Are there actually invalid addresses on the list that should be bouncing? (It would be easy to mass subscribe one to be sure. Maybe you've already done this.) -Tony- Invalid addresses are as follows: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I subscribed everyone on my testlist, I received the bounce confirmation for all of the addresses that were just added, included the invalid ones. 3) What's in the Mailman bounce log? -Tony- Wish we knew. I don't have access to them 4) Are there any relevant entries in the Mailman error log (in the same directory as the bounce log)? -Tony- Wish we knew. I don't have access to them -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.766 / Virus Database: 513 - Release Date: 9/17/2004 bounce:Sep 15 00:10:26 2004 (3629) testlist_thetrick.us: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounce score: 1.0 bounce:Sep 15 00:25:27 2004 (3629) testlist_thetrick.us: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounce score: 1.0 bounce:Sep 15 00:25:27 2004 (3629) sending testlist_thetrick.us list probe to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (score 1.0 >= 0.5) bounce:Sep 15 00:25:27 2004 (3629) testlist_thetrick.us: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounce score: 1.0 bounce:Sep 15 00:25:27 2004 (3629) sending testlist_thetrick.us list probe to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (score 1.0 >= 0.5) bounce:Sep 15 00:25:27 2004 (3629) testlist_thetrick.us: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounce score: 1.0 bounce:Sep 15 00:25:27 2004 (3629) sending testlist_thetrick.us list probe to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (score 1.0 >= 0.5) bounce:Sep 15 00:25:27 2004 (3629) testlist_thetrick.us: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounce score: 1.0 bounce:Sep 15 00:25:27 2004 (3629) sending testlist_thetrick.us list probe to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (score 1.0 >= 0.5) bounce:Sep 15 00:25:27 2004 (3629) testlist_thetrick.us: [EMAIL PROTECTED] already scored a bounce for date 15-Sep-2004 bounce:Sep 15 00:25:27 2004 (3629) testlist_thetrick.us: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounce score: 1.0 bounce:Sep 15 00:25:27 2004 (3629) sending testlist_thetrick.us list probe to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (score 1.0 >= 0.5) bounce:Sep 15 00:25:27 2004 (3629) testlist_thetrick.us: [EMAIL PROTECTED] already scored a bounce for date 15-Sep-2004 bounce:Sep 15 00:25:27 2004 (3629) testlist_th
RE: [Mailman-Users] No Bounce Notification
See comments below: It appears without the knowing what the logs are saying, there is little that can be done. I have logged a case with the helpdesk and will let you know the results. Thanks again for your help and responses. At least I understand a bit of what is going on. Regards, Tony >Thanks for the info and your help Mark. I have done some looking at the >Cpanel site, but will do some more. > >I sent the test message per your instructions and as a result, the list >owner received this message: >- >Subject: Uncaught bounce notification >The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce >format was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted >from it. This mailing list has been configured to send all >unrecognized bounce messages to the list administrator(s). > >For more information see: >http://domain.com/mailman/admin/list1_domain.com/bounce >- > >It appears the bounce process is processing the messages, but is only >forwarding on unrecognized messages. What is it doing with recognized >bounce messages? Yes, the message above is exactly the expected result for an unrecognized bounce. For a recognized bounce, bounce processing should note the bounce in the bounce log I've mentioned before (actually, it does this for the unrecognized bounces as well). It then updates the bounce score for the user and takes any appropriate action as determined by the options on the Bounce Processing page for the list. The settings you reported earlier in this thread should unsubscribe the user and notify the list owner on the first bounce. >The settings in Cpanel are minimal and the settings in Mailman appear to be >correct. I prefer not going to the webhoster helpdesk blind without having >a sense of the problem. Does the above statement of the problem appear to >be accurate? Anyone have any additional thoughts? My thoughts are: 1) Is the list actually sending mail? (I assume you would be asking different questions if it weren't, but assumptions are always risky.) -Tony- Yes, mail is being sent to the "one" good address on this testlist 2) Are there actually invalid addresses on the list that should be bouncing? (It would be easy to mass subscribe one to be sure. Maybe you've already done this.) -Tony- Invalid addresses are as follows: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I subscribed everyone on my testlist, I received the bounce confirmation for all of the addresses that were just added, included the invalid ones. 3) What's in the Mailman bounce log? -Tony- Wish we knew. I don't have access to them 4) Are there any relevant entries in the Mailman error log (in the same directory as the bounce log)? -Tony- Wish we knew. I don't have access to them -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] No Bounce Notification
Thanks for the info and your help Mark. I have done some looking at the Cpanel site, but will do some more. I sent the test message per your instructions and as a result, the list owner received this message: - Subject: Uncaught bounce notification The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce format was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted from it. This mailing list has been configured to send all unrecognized bounce messages to the list administrator(s). For more information see: http://domain.com/mailman/admin/list1_domain.com/bounce - It appears the bounce process is processing the messages, but is only forwarding on unrecognized messages. What is it doing with recognized bounce messages? The settings in Cpanel are minimal and the settings in Mailman appear to be correct. I prefer not going to the webhoster helpdesk blind without having a sense of the problem. Does the above statement of the problem appear to be accurate? Anyone have any additional thoughts? Regards, Tony -Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 9:54 AM To: Tony; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] No Bounce Notification Tony wrote in response to my "Original Message" below which I inadvertently neglected to copy to the list: >Hmm...I do not know were the install directory. It might be /usr/local/mailman (the default), or it could be elsewhere. On some Debian systems it is /var/lib/mailman. >I am having someone host my >website and all of the configurations are done through Cpanel. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq06.011.htp >MTA alias? Where do I set that up or check that? >"Hostname this list prefers for email" is currently set to "mail.domain.com" >I tried at domain.com with the same results Try sending a test e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This should result in an entry in the bounce log and in Mailman's sending the message to the list owner as an unrecognized bounce. If instead, the message is returned to you by the incoming MTA, The MTA is not set up properly. This would have to be addressed through your web host or CPanel, neither of which I can help with. >-Original Message- >From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:59 PM >To: Tony >Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] No Bounce Notification > >>I have limited shell access and am unable to view the /var/log/maillog. > >That's not the log I mean. The log I mean is by default >$prefix/logs/bounce, but the directory could be changed by assignment >to LOG_DIR in mm_cfg.py ($prefix is the location of your mailman >installation). > >> ..5 is a typo for the Bounce Score. It should be 0.5 > >I assume you mean it was a typo in your e-mail and is actually set to >0.5. In that case, as I said before, it looks right to me. > >Do you have an appropriate MTA alias for the listname-bounces address? > -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] No Bounce Notification
I have limited shell access and am unable to view the /var/log/maillog. ..5 is a typo for the Bounce Score. It should be 0.5 -Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 2:12 PM To: Tony; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] No Bounce Notification Tony wrote: >I am running a mailing list on 2.1.5 as a distribution list only and am not >receiving any bounce information, nor are the invalid addresses being >removed or disabled. Here are my bounce settings: > >Should Mailman perform automatic bounce processing? >Yes > >Bounce Score Threshold >..5 Is that a typo or does the value really have 2 decimal points? >Stale Data Discard >7 > >Disable Warning >0 > >Disable Warning Interval >1 > >Notifications: >All set to Yes > >I have them said pretty sensitive right now for testing. Anyone have any >ideas? Any known bugs? Any work arounds? The settings above (except maybe "..5") look like the first bounce should remove the member and notify the owner. Do you have access to the Mailman bounce log? If so, what's in it? -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] No Bounce Notification
I am running a mailing list on 2.1.5 as a distribution list only and am not receiving any bounce information, nor are the invalid addresses being removed or disabled. Here are my bounce settings: Should Mailman perform automatic bounce processing? Yes Bounce Score Threshold .5 Stale Data Discard 7 Disable Warning 0 Disable Warning Interval 1 Notifications: All set to Yes I have them said pretty sensitive right now for testing. Anyone have any ideas? Any known bugs? Any work arounds? Regards, Tony -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: Bulk alteration of subscriber addresses
Tony Howat wrote: Hi Mailman Users, The organisation I'm working for is changing it's domain name. I need to process all mailing lists on our MailMan system and alter the subscribed addresses from our current domain to the new one, leaving external subscriber addresses intact. Has anyone done such a thing, or something similar? DB/python is not my area, so any sample code to open a mailman database file and recurse through subscribed addresses would be very useful. Do ignore me. list_members provides such a template! -- Tony Howat UNIX Network Administrator The London Institute -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Bulk alteration of subscriber addresses
Hi Mailman Users, The organisation I'm working for is changing it's domain name. I need to process all mailing lists on our MailMan system and alter the subscribed addresses from our current domain to the new one, leaving external subscriber addresses intact. Has anyone done such a thing, or something similar? DB/python is not my area, so any sample code to open a mailman database file and recurse through subscribed addresses would be very useful. -- Tony Howat UNIX Network Administrator The London Institute -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] annoucement list question
I have a couple of announcement lists that the spammers have found. I searched through the archive and FAQ but didn't find an answer the following: How can I configure a list of approved posters and discard everything else? For an added challenge, I've got to do this through cpanel. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Archive browsing
Hi There, We've been using mailman here for some time, however it's becoming increasingly apparent that the in-built archive browsing is insufficient for our needs. What we need is a searchable threaded display per list of each entire archive. Has anyone implemented such a thing? We'd clearly like to stick with mailman as the rest of the solution works well. Suggestions would be appreciated. -- Tony Howat UNIX Network Administrator The London Institute -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Perl API
I've looked through the archives and saw the question asked but no answer. Is there a Perl API available for mailman? I'd like to integrate mailman list membership into a web app that already has an established user record for each user. ___ - Tony Rice .. Original Message ... On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:33:41 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Send Mailman-Users mailing list submissions to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Mailman-Users digest..." > >Today's Topics: > > 1. RE: 2 mailman instances with postfix (Mike Williams) > 2. Re: How to use Mailman with windows 2000? (Szilard Vizi) > 3. Re: how limit traffic (Ed Wilts) > 4. Re: how limit traffic (Brad Knowles) > 5. RE: 2 mailman instances with postfix (Jon Carnes) > 6. Errors with htdig (Clyde Jones) > 7. Link to "Download full raw archive" missing (Dwight A. Ernest) > 8. Re: how limit traffic (Brad Knowles) > 9. Bug in Mailman version 2.1.4 (Michael Clark) > 10. Re: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.4 (Erick Mechler) > 11. RE: how limit traffic (Dennis Black) > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >From: "Mike Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:18:38 -0700 >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] 2 mailman instances with postfix >Message: 1 > > >> I thought about using the same alias-File for all mailman >> installations..., but I don't know how mailman checks if a list >> allready exists or not. Is mailman only searching through the alias >> file to check if a list allready exists or is a database used, where >> the listnames and other things are stored. Is the alias file checked >> first and would a new list only be created, if the name for a new list >> isn't found in the alias file... >>=20 >> I think I have to take a look in the mailman code :-(. Or do you have >> anny hints? >>=20 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Forgot admin password :(
Help! I run a closed mailing list & haven't had 2 admin it for ages. I need to now, but I forgot the password :(( Is there anything I can do to recover it? Tnx in advance. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] Forgot admin password :(
Thanks for suggestion. I am on a shared server so I will contact the owners and see what they can do Cheers, Tony > -Original Message- > From: Ashley M. Kirchner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 24 October 2003 19:00 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Forgot admin password :( > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >I run a closed mailing list & haven't had 2 admin it for > ages. I need > >to now, but I forgot the password :(( > > > >Is there anything I can do to recover it? > > > > > Use the sitewide admin password you set when you first installed > Mailman. And if you don't remember that one either, run > $MAILMAN/bin/mmsitepass to reset it, then log in to the list with the > new sitewide passwd, and change the list password. > > -- > W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. > > + > Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . > 303.442.6410 x130 > IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . > 800.441.3873 x130 > Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 > Arapahoe Ave. #6 > http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO > 80303, U.S.A. > > > > > > > -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Forgot admin password :(
Help! I run a closed mailing list & haven't had 2 admin it for ages. I need to now, but I forgot the password :(( Is there anything I can do to recover it? Tnx in advance. Tony -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Public/private archives problem.
Hi, I hope someone can help me with this: I am a web space reseller on a shared server. One of the features we get is mailman, which we offer to our clients. One thing I have noticed about it is that if a mailing list has a has a private archive, the address is http://clientdomain.com/mailman/private/listname, which is fine, but if the archive is public, then the address is http://myhostingprovidersservername.com/pipermail/listname - which is not fine :( This means that my clients can see the domain name of the underlying provider I am buying space off, and potentially they might jump ship. Is this something that can be fixed by me/the hosting provider, and if so, how? Many thanks, Tony -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
FW: [Mailman-Users] Public/private archives problem.
Forgot to copy to list - the reply defaulting to the sender caught me out :) -Original Message- From: Tony Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Sent: 11 August 2003 22:53 To: 'Richard Barrett' Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Public/private archives problem. Hi Richard, > > Is there a reason the two are different? > > If I am honest, it is not immediately obvious to me why the > difference > in computing the hostname used in private and public archive > URLs. But > with a properly configured vanilla Mailman installation, the results > should be same in either case. LOL, thanks for your honesty. I see what you're saying about vanilla MM, but sadly I have to use the bananna flavoured version :/ > But you could check the 'Host name this list prefers for > email' option > on the General Options page of one of your problem lists (3rd > from last > option with MM 2.1.2). Does this look to be correct? I would > expect it to. Yes, this is correct. > > As you say, it could be how CPanel have integrated mm, or > it could be a > > configuration issue with how they set it up. > > There is fresh news. There is good news and there is bad news. > > The good news is that you are not alone. I have just fooled [..] > The bad news is that this looks like a built in 'feature' of the > current CPanel implementation. Deep joy :( Still, thanks for checking it out - it means I can at least eliminate my hosting provider from my enquiries > My guess is that the CPanel's own scripts are used by CPanel > in place > of the standard Mailman scripts to create new lists and that these > scripts set the list web_page_url and host_name attributes > directly but > without adding any matching add_virtualhost() calls to mm_cfg.py to > expand the VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary. Okey doke, so if I say to the Cpanel people that they "need to add matching add_virtualhost() calls to mm_cfg.py to expand the VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary." Then they should understand what that means, since they've been doing their own scripts? > This would not be a major surprise as the VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary > stuff now in Mailman is a MM 2.1.x introduction and CPanel basic > implementation predates it with MM 2.0.x. K. 2.1.2 was only recently added to Cpanel AFAIK > If I can find time I will look at the issue a bit harder but > right now I cannot see any easy solution for you. Basically it looks to > me like a rough edge on the CPanel implementation rather than a bug in Mailman. Thanks. An "easy" solution would be for private and public to do the same thing, but I'd still have to convince the Cpanel guys to implement and my hosting provider to upgrade :( You have been a great help already by getting me this far. Much appreciated. > You could try posting a query to one of support forums on > www.cpanel.com to see if one of their support people can > confirm/deny my hypothesis and hopefully offer a solution. Funnily enough, I'd just registered on their forums before I read your email. > Let me know how you get on. Will do. Kind regards, Tony -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] Public/private archives problem.
Good for you Rob! Sadly, as you will see in the posts from Richard and I, that does not appear to be the problem in my case. I will report to Cpanel and see what they say > -Original Message- > From: Rob Brandt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 11 August 2003 13:43 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Public/private archives problem. > > > The problem is resolved, with great help from Richard. For > the sake of posterity, let the mailing list archives show: > > * Be sure you have proper virtual host mapping > (add_virtualhost()) in mm_cfg.py; > * Be sure that the list setting for "Host name this list > prefers for email" is in fact your mail exchange address, not > a base URL for browsing (which was my problem); > * Run fix_url.py > > Thanks > > Rob > > > > Quoting Rob Brandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Richard; > > > > Thanks for your help in this. I am going to email you a link to my > > "testlist", which you can log into as an administrator and see for > > yourself what the problem is. My server does not run CPanel, so I > > don't think that's an issue here. My server is sitting > here next to > > my desk, so I have full control if you > > need any information. > > > > Best Regards > > > > Rob > > > > > > Quoting Richard Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Tony > > > > > > The questions I am asking are to elicit information that will > > > distinguish between and identify whether there is a > problem with (a) > > > Mailman or (b) misconfiguration of Mailman or (c) third party > > > modifications made to Mailman or (d) other aspects of the host > > > system configuration such as the Apache server. > > > > > > You are complaining about links but I can interpret that > in several > > > ways: > > > > > > 1. whether the URL of concern is accepted and served by > the Apache > > > server when you think/prefer it should or should not be. > > > > > > 2. whether the URL of concern is found embedded in the > HTML text of > > > a web page generated by Mailman as either a static page or by a > > > Mailman CGI script. > > > > > > 3. whether the URL of concern is found embedded in the > HTML text of > > > a web page generated by something other than Mailman as either a > > > static page or as one delivered by a CGI script. > > > > > > I must have been having a stupid day as I was not entirely clear > > > from either the referenced bug report or your initial post about > > > which of these interpretations I should adopt. > > > > > > Now see further comments below. > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > On Monday, August 11, 2003, at 01:14 pm, Tony wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Richard, > > > > > > > > Quoting Richard Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > >> Rob's bug report, as with yours, lack precision in specifying > > > >> exactly which Mailman generated pages have links on them which > > > >> contain (in the HTML text), absolute URLs referring to > the wrong > > > >> hostname. See my comments below on the broadfer questions that > > > >> need to be answered in order to attack the perceived problem. > > > > > > > > Sorry, I thought it was clear enough. I will elaborate. > > > > > > > >> I do not work with it myself, but I believe that the CPanel > > > >> virtual hosting support software, which your hosting > provider may > > > >> be using, does perform some trickery to help avoid conflicts > > > >> between list names on different virtual hosts. If your hosting > > > >> provider is using that and something related to it is > > > >> misconfigured then this may be contributing to the problem. > > > > > > > > Correct. The list directory gets names _ to > > > > avoid conflicts with any other similarly named lists. > CPanel is > > > > what is being used in this > > > > case. > > > > > > > > This means that any other virtual host on the server can access > > > > the mail archives by providing the correct path name to > the list. > > > > > > > >> When you say "if the archive is public, then the address is > > > >> > http://myhostingpro
Re: [Mailman-Users] Public/private archives problem.
Hi Richard, Quoting Richard Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Rob's bug report, as with yours, lack precision in specifying exactly > which Mailman generated pages have links on them which contain (in the > HTML text), absolute URLs referring to the wrong hostname. See my > comments below on the broadfer questions that need to be answered in > order to attack the perceived problem. Sorry, I thought it was clear enough. I will elaborate. > I do not work with it myself, but I believe that the CPanel virtual > hosting support software, which your hosting provider may be using, > does perform some trickery to help avoid conflicts between list names > on different virtual hosts. If your hosting provider is using that and > something related to it is misconfigured then this may be contributing > to the problem. Correct. The list directory gets names _ to avoid conflicts with any other similarly named lists. CPanel is what is being used in this case. This means that any other virtual host on the server can access the mail archives by providing the correct path name to the list. > When you say "if the archive is public, then the address is > http://myhostingprovidersservername.com/pipermail/listname"; what > precisely do you mean? What I mean is that the link to the archives, and only this link, from what I can see, shows the hosting provider's server name and not the virtual domain for the client. Example: I have a list called "test" on clientdomain1. The path to the list and all the admin pages etc is http://clientdomain1/mailman//test_clientdomain1/ This list could also be accessed by another virtual domain on the same server as: http://clientdomain2/mailman//test_clientdomain1/ When the archives are set to public, the archive address is: http://clientdomain1/mailman/private/test_clientdomain1/ When the list archives are set to public, then the archive address is: http://hostingproviderservername/pipermail/test_clientdomain1/ I would expect this to read: http://clientdomain1/pipermail/test_clientdomain1/ or similar. This appears the same on both the main page for the list and in the admin interface. > Or are there links on other pages on the server that have the > 'defective' domain in their URLs? No. > To get much further with diagnosing the problem will need a bit more > input from you. I hope I have provided enough info for you - if not, please tell me what else you need to know. many thanks, Tony -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Public/private archives problem.
Hi Tokio,
I checked out Rob's bug report and he says that he tried fix_url, but it only
worked for private archives, not for the public ones :(
Thanks for the suggestion though.
Tony
Quoting Tokio Kikuchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
>
> You should state your urlhost/emailhost pairs in mm_cfg.py like;
>
> add_virtualhost('www.virtual.dom', 'mail.virtual.dom')
>
> then use fix_url.py.
>
>
> Rob Brandt wrote:
>
> > I recently submitted a bug report on that:
> >
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?
func=detail&aid=784888&group_id=103&atid=100103
> >
> > No response yet.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> >
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I hope someone can help me with this:
> >>I am a web space reseller on a shared server.
> >>One of the features we get is mailman, which we offer to our clients.
> >>
> >>One thing I have noticed about it is that if a mailing list has a has a
> >>private archive, the address is
> >>http://clientdomain.com/mailman/private/listname, which is fine, but if
> >>the archive is public, then the address is
> >>http://myhostingprovidersservername.com/pipermail/listname - which is
> >>not fine :(
> >>
> >>This means that my clients can see the domain name of the underlying
> >>provider I am buying space off, and potentially they might jump ship.
> >>
> >>Is this something that can be fixed by me/the hosting provider, and if
> >>so, how?
> >>
> >>Many thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >>Tony
> >>
>
> --
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> http://weather.is.kochi-u.ac.jp/
>
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[Mailman-Users] Message discarded
Jul 28 00:53:24 2003 (57641) Message discarded, msgid: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This occurs when attempted to send an HTML email out to members of my mailing list. The HTML mail contains this at the top: Errors: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: THE SENDER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: You! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: UPCOMING EVENTS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="temp.html" Content-Base: http://www.isp.com It worked without a hitch before and I cant seem to determine why this message will no longer go through. I can send the message to my own address without issues, just not to the list address. Let me know what other info you need, and thanks for any help, -t +--- -- - - - | Anthony M. Faoro II : CIO, Adtaq Internet . tmf at adtaq dot com 425.444.8787 VOICE . 800.861.1834 FAX -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailman for Delivery of 10,000
I have a client with an optin list of about 10,000 subscribers. Is mailman a good program for delivery of this amount of mail .in terms of efficiency, server load, etc. I've seen several desktop solutions that connect to a pop account and send out the e-mails in threads (or groups of 10 to 15 automatically) this is supposed to be more efficient and use less server resources. Is that true? I guess I'm just curious if mailman is a good solution for this client or if anybody has some experience with similar size lists. Thanks. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Changing the sender Address
Hi, I have a new mailman installation and messages sent to the list are coming from [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm wondering if it is possible to change that so it is coming from [EMAIL PROTECTED] or something like that. People are finding the fact that it comes from an address with bounces in it a bit unnerving. Thanks! -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Archive Question
Hello all, I have a new mailman installation...and I'm curious it there is any way to delete messages out of the Archive or simply reset/delete the entire archive. I have a number of test messages for one of my lists from the installation process...and I would like to get rid of them. Thanks! -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] testing my mailman install...
so i have mailman installed and following the INSTALL file i get to where i am creating a test list. after i set up the list and it spits out the new aliases i am not receiving an instruction email from the machine (i am entering my email address as the list admin). also when i visit the webserver everything works well. i can add and delete members of the list, but there is no 'welcome mail' being sent out. i am running this on a redhat 7.1 system with sendmail 8.11.6-2.7.1 as the MTA. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] slightly off topic
but welcome messages aren't being sent out to users when i subscribe them to a new list. i think i have it tracked down to a sendmail problem, is there anyone out there who understands why the command-line switch... [bash]:sendmail -bd throws the following error: "Invalid operation mode d" thanks, tony -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] MTA interoperability question
Hey guys I'm setting up Mailman to be used on a RedHat 7.1 system. Due to my IT dept. if I can use MMDF as the MTA that would be ideal. Has anyone set these up successfully? Please let me know ASAP. Thanks, Tony -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Broken links for user and List managers documentation
Hi, Sorry to complain but the links for user and List managers documentation http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mgrs.html and http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/users.html are broken. Do you know anywhere else I can access this documentation ? thanks, Tony Tony Rodgers Unix Systems Administrator Library IT Services Phone 02 9351 5942 Fisher Library, Fax 02 9351 7769 University of SydneyMobile 0414 313 834 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Question about Mailman
Is there a limit to the number of subscribers the Mailman mailing list can have? Thanks Tony -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] How do you subscribe/unsubscribe via email?
Hello All, I am setting up a couple of mail lists for my job. For the life of me, I can’t figure out how to give my clients email addresses they can use to subscribe/unsubscribe? I tried the –[EMAIL PROTECTED] command but I can’t figure it out. If you can give me an example it would be greatly appreciated, the “list name” is Wellwood . Also, I want to just use announcement lists, and I can’t figure out that setting in the control panel either. Can someone tell me the proper combination of settings? Thank You, Tony D.
[Mailman-Users] How do you subscribe/unsubscribe via email?
Hello All, I am setting up a couple of mail lists for my job. For the life of me, I can’t figure out how to give my clients email addresses they can use to subscribe/unsubscribe? I tried the –[EMAIL PROTECTED] command but I can’t figure it out. If you can give me an example it would be greatly appreciated, the “list name” is Wellwood . Also, I want to just use announcement lists, and I can’t figure out that setting in the control panel either. Can someone tell me the proper combination of settings? Thank You, Tony D.
[Mailman-Users] how do I
I just started using this system and want to do the following: Send a monthly message to my list. At the end of the message I want to include an 'unsubscribe' link so the subscriber can go to their management area. Thank you, Tony Turner
[Mailman-Users] Missing Installation Instructions?
In this page: http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/install-start.html it mentions "Mailman is configured using the standard GNU autoconf software. You first need to prepare your system as outlined in the sections below, and then configure and install the Mailman software." Well there isn't any sections. Can you provide some setup info? Thanks Tony
[Mailman-Users] I think my list is corrupt...
Mailman keeps trying to send me error messages every couple of minutes. I've run all the check_db etc. scripts and they say everything is OK. The message I get is: Subject: Cron [ -x /usr/bin/python -a -f /usr/lib/mailman/cron/qrunner ] && /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/cron/qrunner X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 23:49:01 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Traceback (innermost last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 84, in ? from Mailman import Utils File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 32, in ? import random ValueError: bad marshal data Tony -- "Two weeks before due date, the programmers work 22 hour days cobbling an application from... (apparently) one programmer bashing his face into the keyboard." -- Dilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nothing-on.tv -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Verizon Wireless Corporation
Is there anyone out there with Verizon Wireless Corporation? Tony King IDAPP 800-961-4327 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Closed Newsletter, No Password
Hello, I am *not* a programmer or developer -- but I want to provide visitors to my site a newsletter service that adheres to the following: + Completely closed list -- only the listowner may send messages to the list. + NO password required for subscribing or unsubscribing. + Double opt-in, of course. Can I do this with MailMan without coding? -- TM
Re: [Mailman-Users] URLs in my top listinfo page are incorrect..?
is your admin interface also broken? did you change the "Base URL" at the bottom of the General Options page from http://lists.my.domain.com/mailman/ to http://lists.my.domain.com/ ??? if your admin interface is broken (probably is) then you can fix it by making a temp file with the following line: web_page_url = 'http://lists.my.domain.com/mailman/' and run "$MAILMAN_HOME/bin/config_list -i /tmp/file_name somelist" -t On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 05:05:01PM -0500, Paul D. Smith wrote: > %% Regarding [Mailman-Users] URLs in my top listinfo page are incorrect..?; I wrote: > > Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? :) > > If no one has any better ideas I guess I'll start adding prints to the > code to try to figure it out--since I know little about Python this > could be quite an adventure... > > Any pointers to where to start, what to look at, how to do more > effective debugging--or even an answer! :)--would be greatly > appreciated. > > > From: "Paul D. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 02:18:13 -0500 > > > > OK, I installed Mailman 2.0.1 on a Debian GNU/Linux box (I built it > > myself, though, I didn't use a Debian package). > > > > I configured my Apache 1.3.17 server to have a virtual host > > list.my.domain.com, like this: > > > > > > Servername lists.my.domain.com > > DocumentRoot "/home/mailman/2.0.1" > > ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > CustomLog /home/apache/var/logs/lists.my.domain.com.combined_log combined > > ScriptAlias /mailman/ /home/mailman/2.0.1/cgi-bin/ > > AddHandler cgi-script .cgi > > Alias /pipermail/ /home/mailman/archives/public/ > > > > > >AllowOverride None > >Options FollowSymLinks > >Order allow,deny > >Allow from all > > > > > > > >AllowOverride None > >Options None > >Order allow,deny > >Allow from all > > > > > > > > > > Now, I can get to the homepage of my lists, which gives a URL of > > <http://lists.my.domain.com/mailman/listinfo/somelist>, which seems > > right. > > > > I can also get to the pipermail archives; that all works fine. > > > > However, all the links on the listinfo page to places like the roster, > > the admin interface, and even the link on the bottom which is supposed > > to point back to the listinfo page are broken. > > > > Instead of pointing to <http://lists.my.domain.com/mailman/roster/somelist>, > > for example, the page points to <http://lists.my.domain.com/roster/somelist> > > (note the missing "mailman/" in the path). > > > > Needless to say, none of these links work. > > > > When I view the source for the page the reason is obvious: there's one > > too many "../"'s in the relative paths of the URLs. For example, the > > form button to the roster page is > > > > > > > > which is clearly wrong, both based on what it does and comparing it to > > the source for other pages (such as the listinfo for this list :). It > > should just be: > > > > > > > > Likewise, the link to the listinfo page is similarly wrong: > > > > Somelist > > > > Help! What could be causing this? Where should I look? > > > > I tried to follow the Python code but the calculation of this path, > > starting in Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py where FormatListListinfo() invokes > > FormatFormStart() gets pretty deep, then I got down to > > Mailman/Utils.py:ScriptURL() when I got pretty confused :-/. > > > > Thanks for any pointers or tips... > > -- > --- > Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>HASMAT--HA Software Methods & Tools > "Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional." --Mad Scientist > --- >These are my opinions---Nortel Networks takes no responsibility for them. > > -- > Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Tony Abbott [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Getting Started? Simple Mailman application
Mailman is provided by my hosting sevice. I am new to managing mail lists but I would like to persue it as an additional amrketing medium Initially I only want to send out a news letter periodically.(to subscribers who simply subscribe once and do not post to the list and who do not need a password. I have read some of the posts in this Mailman list and do not understandand any of them.- it is all a bit frightening. !! Please could someone point me at some document or URL whre there might be a'mailman for beginners' or suggest a simple way to set up the list.?? Thanks Tony MacDonnell http://www.prima-artists.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Mailman-Users] error
Sounds very much like permissions to me. check permissions further up the tree. Make sure that all the parent directorys are at least o+x. If you're running redhat and used useradd to create your mailman user I'd start with ls -lad /opt/home/mailman -t On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:39:31PM +0100, Kris 'dJOEk' Vandecruys wrote: > On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Dan Mick wrote: > > > > > > hi, > > > i did a by-the-README/INSTALL install of mailman 2.0.1 and i get this > > > error in my www.elog > > > > > > [Thu Feb 1 14:18:02 2001] [error] (1)Operation not permitted: exec of > > > /opt/home/mailman/cgi-bin/admin failed > > > > So, the completely-obvious questions are: > > > > is it executable? Is it executable by the user your web server runs > > CGIs as? > > > > > > > drwxrwsr-x2 mailman mailman 4096 Feb 1 22:58 . > drwxrwsr-x 18 mailman mailman 4096 Feb 1 22:58 .. > -rwxr-sr-x1 mailman mailman 30794 Feb 1 22:58 admin > and the same for the other cgis > > apache runs em as nobody, and i ./configured mailman with the > correct mail-gid and cgi-gid (got them out of sendmail.cf and httpd.conf > as described) > > Everything works, except the web frontend... > > I get a server error 500 > > this is the error in my elog: > [Thu Feb 1 23:08:29 2001] [error] (1)Operation not permitted: exec of > /opt/home/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo failed > [Thu Feb 1 23:08:29 2001] [error] [client 213.224.83.70] Premature end of > script headers: /opt/home/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo > > i tried taking the s-bit off the cgis, and then i get a different error: > (so that the scripts are run as nobody, not as mailman) > the page gives me > 1. Bug in mailman blah blah > from .elog -> can't write to error > changes perms of logs/error to 777 (temporary) > 2. Bug in mailman blah bla > from logs/errors -> can't read write config.db > course not, the thing runs as nobody and config.db is > -rw-rw1 mailman mailman 2931 Feb 1 23:13 config.db > > I got it sorta running after a lot of shifting perms, but then the mail > part doesn't work anymore... > > i thought about setting apache's gid to mailman but that would break the > other cgis, right ? > > frankly i'm at a loss... > it's probably something silly that i'm overlooking, but a couple of > friends which also know what they are doing can't figure it out either > > any suggestions are highly appreciated > > bye, > Kris > > > > > -- > Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Tony Abbott [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
