[Mailman-Users] configuration doubt
Hello All, I am using mailman as announcement list. i want to deny list users from posting mail to list. Is it possible in mailman. please cc to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for your replies. Thanks Sam
[Mailman-Users] configuration doubt
Hello All, I am using mailman as announcement list. i want to deny list users from posting mail to list. Is it possible in mailman. please cc to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for your replies. Thanks Sam
[Mailman-Users] FREE SAMPLE
TYPE IN YOUR FAX NUMBER AND PUSH YOUR SEND BUTTON TO RECEIVE A FREE SAMPLE OF OVER 40,000 REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY LISTINGS. ALL CONTAIN CONTACT INFORMATION INCLUDING SPOKESPERSON'S NAME. IN ADDITION, ALL HAVE FAX NUMBERS AS WELL AS PHONE NUMBERS. -- SAM -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I install Mailman on a hosted site/Reply
"Norbert Bollow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said; > > Contact me off-list if you're looking for someone who can set > this up for you, for a reasonable fee. > Reply; A "shameless" endorsement for Mr Bollow. He set up my mailman listserver at alist4u.com. The man is a veritable mailman "guru." His service/expertise is excellent and his fees are more than reasonable. Very happy in all respects. :-) Sam Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alist4u.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Bi-Monthly Reminders
Hi everyone! I am new to this list, but am currently admining a system using Mailman. We just changed our servers over one of the problems is that it changed the individuals passwords. Since we did the conversion on March 1, the old system went ahead and sent out the monthly reminders to all the subscribers and they contained their old passwords - not the ones for the new server. Also, the person maintaining the system left late last year and I know he edited sending out reminder messages from once a month to twice a month. We send out reminder messages - twice a month. 1) How do we send out an immediate reminder message to get the correct passwords out? 2) How can we edit how often the reminder messages are sent? Thanks Sammy Williams -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Digest having attachments per message
Hi folks, we just changed over from an old server to a new one. A couple users are telling me that they are receiving file attachments for each email sent. They are subscribed to receive the messages via the digest version. The old server didn't do this. Does anyone know if this is a setting in Mailman? If so, where? I can't fins it in the Admin user interface, but you can imagine how annoying this is. Thanks Sammy -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] "bad" email addresses
Hi, New to the list. Considering replacing my hacked version of Majordomo with Mailman. Question; How does Mailman handle "bad" email addresses? e.g. New compuserve member, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Decides to use a mail forwarding service and subs to a list under [EMAIL PROTECTED] and has email forwarded to his compuserve address. Later on, switches to another ISP and "kills" compuserve email address. List mail starts to bounce. Compuserve returns the mail as a bounce. However, no such compuserve address in the subscriber list. I know that Lyris "tags" individual mail to handle that type of problem. Does Mailman do the same sort of thing? Or is there some alternative way in Mailman to deal with that sort of thing. TIA Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Help: unicode-Chinese fonts?
Hello, I am wondering if mailman support unicode in Subject for showing Chinese character? Any pointer will be appreciated. Rds, Sam -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] questions
i would like to ask you a couple of questions. for example, [EMAIL PROTECTED] march is vol. 5 and each digest is an issue. i know how to go on line and read each message. is there a way to go on line and read the messages by digest, volume and issue, or ar those digests only composed and sent to my inbox? also, can i send a request to the list address and get messages or digests resent to my inbox via email, or do i have to actually have to go to the archives to reread them? so you see, i actually have 2 different questions. the version for the list is 2.1.4. thank you. Sam Howard. --- Surf the Net with your phone! Net-By-Phone, http://www.net-by-phone.com, 1-877-NET-BY-PHONE (1-877-638-2974). -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Manual archive digester? Unique problem?
I run a website and mailing lists that uses Mailman. Our website is protected for members only. The ML archives are also flagged as private (this is a club... highly paranoid). I want to put the archives onto the private website, but here's the problem. This version of Mailman is installed by the host and I DO NOT have access to any configurations or even the archives themselves. The location of the data files are "jailed off" to us in the shell. My thoughts are to manually download the monthly archives in its "raw" form, run it through something that will digest it into useable form (threaded, searchable perhaps?), and put that on the website every month. Anyway know of anything like that? My only other alternative would be to somehow link to the Mailman archives on this website, but we're trying to avoid members from first having to log into the website, then having to log into the archives. Any suggestions or ideas would be appreciated. I searched the FAQS and archives. I found "archive digesters", but my understanding is that I'd have to tweak the configuration of Mailman and again I have no access to the inner configuration. Thanks Sam -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Deleting all lists and any trace of mailman from our systems
Hello, Apologies for blundering in and emailing the wrong lists - I need to get rid of all of the mailman delivery systems that my organisation has previously set up - I have most of the admin passwords as far as I'm aware, but I'm unfamiliar with this system - I have tried to look up the answer in previous threads on this forum but I don't understand what the commands mean and how to operate the system. Please can I get some guidance before I flip out like a ninja and alarm my colleagues. Cheers Sam Bennett Vice President (Rights & Activities) University Campus Suffolk Union office: +44 (0)1473 338155 e-mail: su.vicepresid...@ucs.ac.uk web: www.UCSunion.com Twitter: @UCSunion_VP University Campus Suffolk Students' Union is a company registered in England and Wales with registered number 6967378 and registered office at Waterfront Building, Neptune Quay, Ipswich, IP4 1QJ. UCS Students' Union is an exempt charity. University Campus Suffolk is the trading name of University Campus Suffolk Ltd. Registered in England and Wales, company number: 05078498. Registered Address: Waterfront Building, Neptune Quay, Ipswich, IP4 1QJ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Host won't upgrade, what are my options?
I have a problem with my current host (Hostway). The only "upgrade" to mailman they support would result in me losing my archives and basically starting from scratch. Unfortunately, I don't have access to the mailman installation... at least not as far as I can tell (warning: I'm fairly new to this side of things). Is there any hope for my archives at all? --sam -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Host won't upgrade, what are my options?
Mark and Brad... I was able to pull up the mbox file using Mark's sample URL. However, it only goes as far back as May 2003. When I look at my archives that seems to be when it first started creating Gzip'd Text Files for each month. Beyond that I have stuff that dates as far back as Feb, 2001, but it didn't appear to be inside the mbox file. Is there another mbox file floating around or does that really old stuff predate the mbox file format? If so, is it collected into one file somewhere by any chance? Thanks for the help and info. --sam On 11/2/05, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Brad Knowles wrote: > > >At 11:51 PM -0500 2005-11-01, Sam Santos wrote: > > > >> Unfortunately, I don't have access to the mailman installation... at > least > >> not as far as I can tell (warning: I'm fairly new to this side of > things). > >> Is there any hope for my archives at all? > > > > You may be able to grab the "cooked" text format archives, modify > >them to look more like proper 7th edtion "mbox" format raw source > >archives, and then import them into your new mailing at your new > >provider. Or, your new provider may be able to do that for you. > > > > But otherwise, there's not much you can do without being able to > >get access to the source archive mbox files. > > You can always get the source archive mbox file for a list (asssuming > there is one) via a URL similar to > > http://www.example.com/mailman/private/list_name.mbox/list_name.mbox > > regardless of whether or not there is a public link to it. It does > require authorization even if the archive is public. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > > -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Any easy way to remove one email address from a queued message?
Our mail server is choking on a (syntactically incorrect) recipient address for a message in Mailman's queue. The message has been delivered to some of the recipients, but Mailman keeps retrying this one address and not continuing with the rest: 2006-04-27 09:10:18 SMTP call from localhost (hostname.removed) [127.0.0.1] U=list dropped: too many syntax or protocol errors (last command was "rcpt TO:<'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'>") 2006-04-27 09:25:19 SMTP call from localhost (hostname.removed) [127.0.0.1] U=list dropped: too many syntax or protocol errors (last command was "rcpt TO:<'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'>") I've replaced the email address in those logs, but the invalid part is the ''s around it. Is there any way I can remove the invalid address from the message to allow it to deliver to the rest of the recipients? Thanks, Sam signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Any easy way to remove one email address from aqueued message?
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 18:36 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Sam Cannell wrote: > > > >Our mail server is choking on a (syntactically incorrect) recipient > >address for a message in Mailman's queue. The message has been > > Step three. The hard way. If you are proficient with Python and > Mailman, use bin/withlist to start an interactive session with the > list. Load the message and the metadata from the queue entry .pck > pickle, delete the bad address from the recips list in the metadata > and then either call Mailman.Handlers.SMTPDirect.process(mlist, msg, > msgdata) or repickle the message and metadata in a .pck file and put > it in the out queue or the retry queue. I'd prefer to do it this way, however I haven't really worked much with that side of mailman. I've looked around the mailman site for information about the classes and functions I have access to through withlist, but haven't had a lot of luck. Is there any documentation like this online? Thanks, Sam signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Any easy way to remove one email address fromaqueued message?
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 21:03 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Ultimately, you want to give the new file the same name as the old (the > name consists of a time and a hash and should be the right format), > and then move it to the out queue and Mailman will do the rest. Fantastic .. I'll have a play around with that. Thanks so much for your help! Sam signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] restricting posts to to:
Can I somehow set my mailing list to accept messages where the mailing list is addressed as the "To:" field, but have it reject posts where the mailing list is addressed in someone's "cc:" or "bcc:" field? I couldn't find anything in the archives or documentation about this. Thanks -Sam -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Re: Where is 'reject' message stored
> * Jon Carnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-24 00:10:39 -0400]: > > On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 23:10, Warren Hoffman wrote: >> One of my associates set up content filters to reject attachments and other >> things. He created a custom message to explain this. Now he wants to change >> the message, but I cannot locate which file in /mailman holds the text (and >> I did look at all of them). Can somebody tell me how I could find it. I do >> know text fragments. > > for i in `find /var/mailman/ -type f` do; grep -H "fragment" $i; done > > This will search through every file in every subdirectory of > /var/mailman and look for the word "fragment". If it finds a match, it > prints out the files name. "grep -r /usr/lib/mailman/" finds Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py which appear to hard-code the rejection messages. Feature request: 1. for "class SuspiciousHeaders": optionally add the name and the value of the suspicious header to the rejection message. the moderator then can remove it if he wants to, but it gives him valuable fedback on which rules trigger. 2. for all rejection messages, allow a common custom explanation. e.g., I find it very inconvenient to have to insert "See <http://clisp.cons.org/faq.html#rejected> for details." after each rejection message. Thanks! -- Sam Steingold (http://www.podval.org/~sds) running w2k <http://www.camera.org> <http://www.iris.org.il> <http://www.memri.org/> <http://www.mideasttruth.com/> <http://www.honestreporting.com> Daddy, why doesn't this magnet pick up this floppy disk? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Email management
Hi group, New member, sorry if this has been asked before. I'm looking to setup Mailman on an OS X Server and pairing it to a full web front-end. The website is that of an association of some 8000 members, all of whom will need to be automatically subscribed when we cut over to the new system. (We can add the current members thru the Mailman web interface). New members will need to choose desired lists during their initial signup, and all members will need to be able to unsubscribe from the website front-end as well. So...can Mailman support complete email subscribing/unsubscribing/administration by an administrator on behalf of users? Thanks! Sam Bergin Apple Certified Technical Coordinator Mac & PC Pros, Inc. Tel 856-243-0150 FAX 856-243-0125 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] config.pck, apache, permissions and Errno 13
hello everyone, I am writing this e-mail as a sort of last resort. Believe me I've tried hard, but can't find a solution to the following problem. -I installed mailman on a debian server with postfix. -all mailing lists work. -webinterface works. now, whenever the cronscripts run, or somebody sends a mail over one of the lists, the permissions of some file (usually something like: "/var/lib/mailman/lists/listname/config.pck") will change from www:mailman to mailman:mailman. after this happens, I can no longer access the web-interface. The result: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5 We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main main() File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py", line 47, in main mlist = MailList.MailList(listname, lock=0) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 128, in __init__ self.Load() File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 593, in Load dict, e = self.__load(file) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 559, in __load fp = open(dbfile) IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/lists/listname/config.pck' I tried many things including: I have tried forcing the permissions by doing a chmod u+s. that didn't work >ls -l >drwsrwsr-x6 www-data mailman 4096 Sep 9 01:11 listname I tried to change MAILMAN_USER = 'www-data' in /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py but this resulted in a Mailman mail-wrapper: Group mismatch error. I was then thorougly confused by suexec stuff http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=recent&days=365250 -see "6.17. Apache+Suexec" one the one hand, this suggests I should run everything as mailman:mailman and on the other hand I am warned strongly against this in the mailman installation docs. not to mention that the apache docs concerning suexec are daunting. well as apache doc are ;-) and DON'T tell me to run check_perms! *grin* so now here is my question: can anybody help me? thank you aron -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] config.pck, apache, permissions and Errno 13
On Wednesday 14 September 2005 08:15, Sythos wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 04:11:22AM +0200, Sam Gamgee wrote: > > -I installed mailman on a debian server with postfix. > > > >From debian mailman package or from source? I'm sorry I was mistaken earlier. It's a ubuntu server and not debian. I installed the mailman package first. Here however I received: Command output: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group "daemon", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group "mailman". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group "daemon", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=mailman'. I then installed from source with the "--with-mail-gid=mailman" option. Thats the situation I'm in now -> I can mail, but I can't use the web interface properly. aron -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] config.pck, apache, permissions and Errno 13
On Wednesday 14 September 2005 19:29, you wrote: > On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 18:45 +0200, Sam Gamgee wrote: > > yes I have run check_perms several times. > > I often get wrong group errors such as: > > > > /var/lib/mailman/logs/qrunner bad group (has: list, expected mailman) > > /var/lib/mailman/logs/smtp bad group (has: list, expected mailman) > > > > I don't know what keep causing these, but so far they don't seem to have > > any negative effects. > > If check_perms is reporting problems you've got problems you need to > fix. By default check_perms only reports problems, it does not fix them, > to fix them you need to supply the -f argument. yes yes yes. I know that. but the results are not permanent. My problem is trying to find out why. > If your cgi wrappers are not group mailman then its setgid property is > not going to work the way you expect. For instance if its group "list" > then its going to execute as group "list" and the fact the files it > references are -rw-rw mailman:mailman won't help because they are > not in the group "list". Make sense? which file permissions are wrong? which ones do I have to change? check_perms -f changes get undone constantly and I don't know by what. if check_perms reports some "group list and not mailman" stuff I don't experience any problems and nothing changes when I fix them. When my web-interface doesn't work i.e. ls -l /var/lib/mailman/lists/listname/ total 24 -rw-rw1 mailman mailman 4284 Sep 14 12:00 config.pck then it will not work regardless of what check_perms says or does. all I know is: if I chown -R www-data /var/lib/mailman/lists then it works again. *help* -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] config.pck, apache, permissions and Errno 13 SOLVED
> % ls -l /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ > total 264 > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 18345 Mar 7 2005 admin > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 18349 Mar 7 2005 admindb > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 18349 Mar 7 2005 confirm > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 18349 Mar 7 2005 create > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 18353 Mar 7 2005 edithtml > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 18353 Mar 7 2005 listinfo > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 18349 Mar 7 2005 options > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 18349 Mar 7 2005 private > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 18349 Mar 7 2005 rmlist > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 18349 Mar 7 2005 roster > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 18353 Mar 7 2005 subscribe thanks! that did it. the permissions were wrong, and they weren't being corrected by check_perms -f for me it was: /var/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ which is: /var/lib/mailman/cgi-bin -> /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman anyway. it works now :)) thank you for your patience. cheers. aron -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Re: better filtering - help?
On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 04:46:45PM +, Jeffrey Westgate wrote: >On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 04:57:45PM +, Gretchen M Beck wrote: >> We're trying to find the right combination to filter in the "List of >> non-member addresses whose postings will be automatically discarded." >> under Privacy Options, Sender Filters. All we've been able to come >> up with are individual domains. When we try to block >> guido.sardu...@spammer.phisher.it, -- while we'd like to block all >> of .it, what we find is we can either do the individual address, or >> the entire spammer.phisher.it domain. What's the magic combination? >> >> And the hints say use ^, we found * worked for us confusion >> abounds > > When checking regular expressions for the accept/block/reject lists > (as well as other places), I highly recommend this website: > > https://regex101.com > > You can enter the expression you are thinking of using, then test what > it matches (so you can be sure it matches what you want and not what > you don't, and tweak it until it works). Other useful regex resources include: - "Regular Expression Pocket Reference for Perl, Ruby, PHP, Python, C, Java and .Net" (Tony Stubblebine, 2007, O'Reilly) https://www.geos.ed.ac.uk/~bmg/software/Perl%20Books/RegExp_perl_python_java_etc.pdf - https://www.regular-expressions.info/tutorial.html (Jan Goyvaerts). - Goyvaerts also sells a tool called RegexBuddy that works like Regex101 but is perhaps a bit more powerful. Unfortanately, it is proprietary software and requires Windows (or Wine), but if you don't mind that then it is a good way to learn regexes. https://www.regexbuddy.com Good luck! -- A: When it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: When is top-posting a bad thing? () ASCII ribbon campaign. Please avoid HTML emails & proprietary /\ file formats. (Why? See e.g. https://v.gd/jrmGbS ). Thank you. -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: Using Mailgun with Mailman
On Mon, Dec 07, 2020 at 04:08:28PM +, Jonathan M wrote: > More generally, does anyone in the Mailman world have an opinion on > Mailgun and similar services? Because Mailgun is US-owned and therefore subject to the Cloud Act, using Mailgun (or any other US-owned SaaS) may cause GDPR issues. Depends whose personal data you would be giving to Mailgun; what kind of data; justifications for giving it to them, etc. See, e.g.: https://europeanlawblog.eu/2020/07/21/after-schrems-ii-uncertainties-on-the-legal-basis-for-data-transfers-and-constitutional-implications-for-europe/ https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/in-wake-of-the-schrems-ii-cnil-97977/ If any of your users are EU/EEA residents, you might therefore prefer to use a system under the ultimate control of an entity based in the EU/EEA. (I wouldn't say I'm "in the Mailman world" except that I use Mailman sometimes. But I hope you don't mind me making the point above, because it's an important one that might otherwise not get mentioned.) -- A: When it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: When is top-posting a bad thing? () ASCII ribbon campaign. Please avoid HTML emails & proprietary /\ file formats. (Why? See e.g. https://v.gd/jrmGbS ). Thank you. -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: Tracking email
On Tue, Feb 09, 2021 at 09:55:54PM -0600, Jesus Rivas wrote: > for example the pixel image to track who open the email, i need for > knows how many user open the email. No, you don't. Privacy is literally a human right: "Article 8 protects your right to respect for your private life, your family life, your home and your correspondence (letters, telephone calls and emails, for example)." Source: https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/human-rights-act/article-8-respect-your-private-and-family-life -- A: When it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: When is top-posting a bad thing? () ASCII ribbon campaign. Please avoid HTML emails & proprietary /\ file formats. (Why? See e.g. https://v.gd/jrmGbS ). Thank you. -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: Tracking email
On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 01:51:39PM +, Sam Kuper wrote: > On Tue, Feb 09, 2021 at 09:55:54PM -0600, Jesus Rivas wrote: >> for example the pixel image to track who open the email, i need for >> knows how many user open the email. > > No, you don't. > > Privacy is literally a human right: > > "Article 8 protects your right to respect for your private life, > your family life, your home and your correspondence (letters, > telephone calls and emails, for example)." > > Source: > https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/human-rights-act/article-8-respect-your-private-and-family-life N.B. The above is European law. For the global version, see instead: Article 12. No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks. Source: https://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/ See also RFC 7258: Pervasive Monitoring (PM) is widespread (and often covert) surveillance through intrusive gathering of protocol artefacts, including application content, or protocol metadata such as headers. ... The IETF community's technical assessment is that PM is an attack on the privacy of Internet users and organisations. Source: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7258 -- A: When it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: When is top-posting a bad thing? () ASCII ribbon campaign. Please avoid HTML emails & proprietary /\ file formats. (Why? See e.g. https://v.gd/jrmGbS ). Thank you. -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: Add "sender's name/email" to BODY of mail as header?
On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 11:00:20PM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Alex Bellig writes: > > I am interested in this option as well. Here is a scenario: > > When people send a message to the group and don't sign their name, > > I want their name to be picked from the membership list and > > mentioned at the top of the body as From: > > It will follow with their message in the body of the email. > > This is not possible to do reliably in email due to the control of the > relevant information by email authors. Just wondering... I can see that the above would be true in the case of lists that allow anybody to post. But is it true even in the case of lists that can only be posted to by subscribers? (Well, I guess that Subscriber A could spoof their message as being from Subscriber B. But barring pathological cases like that, presumably Mailman can match the sender's email address against the subscriber list and find the value of the corresponding name field.) Sam -- A: When it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: When is top-posting a bad thing? () ASCII ribbon campaign. Please avoid HTML emails & proprietary /\ file formats. (Why? See e.g. https://v.gd/jrmGbS ). Thank you. -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: OpenPGP and S/MIME aware Mailman
On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 10:11:20AM -0500, Dennis Putnam wrote: > If I need a secure mailman list, is there another alternative? You may want to give some thought to, and to then specify in a follow-up in this thread, what you mean by "secure" in this context. For example, you might want security properties such as: - Every message sent to the list can be authenticated by its recipients. - Every message sent to the list is robustly encrypted to prevent its being readable by non-members. - For the property/ies above to be immune to rogue CAs. - Some combination of the above. It may be helpful to ask yourself: what is your threat model? Also, which key distribution mechanisms are available to you? (For instance: are the list members able to meet in person for key exchange?) -- A: When it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: When is top-posting a bad thing? () ASCII ribbon campaign. Please avoid HTML emails & proprietary /\ file formats. (Why? See e.g. https://v.gd/jrmGbS ). Thank you. -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Subject field not included in wrapper of DMARC emails
Dear Mailman folk, I am subscribed to an OpenWRT mailing list, which (according to the X-Mailman-Verson header in emails I receive from the list) uses Mailman 2.1.29. Most of the mail on that list comes through just fine. DMARC email comes through with the Subject: field blank, though. Is that expected? https://wiki.list.org/DEV/DMARC does not appear to mention the Subject: header being left out of the wrapper, when Mailman wraps a message to satisfy DMARC. This means that in my MUA, those messages are displayed without a Subject. An example of an affected email is shown below, including the full headers. Is there a Mailman 2 setting that I could recommend to the OpenWRT list managers, that would make Mailman copy the Subject: header from the original message to the wrapper, so that my MUA would show the subject as intended by the sender? Thank you in advance for your help, Sam - Forwarded message from "Etan Kissling (IC) via openwrt-devel" - Return-Path: Delivered-To: unknown Received: from posteo.de (185.67.36.145:993) by zian2 with IMAP4-SSL; 08 Feb 2021 21:32:21 - Delivered-To: sampabloku...@posteo.net Received: from proxy02.posteo.name ([127.0.0.1]) by dovecot12 (Dovecot) with LMTP id 5oSRHYDhIGBLfgAAJesNpQ for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 10:02:45 +0100 Received: from proxy02.posteo.de ([127.0.0.1]) by proxy02.posteo.name (Dovecot) with LMTP id GTflGLf5IGDQWQEAGFAyLg ; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 10:02:45 +0100 Received: from mailin04.posteo.de (unknown [10.0.0.64]) by proxy02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DZ0Qq63k7z12Ck for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2021 10:02:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from mx04.posteo.de (mailin04.posteo.de [127.0.0.1]) by mailin04.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9627620F6B for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2021 10:02:27 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at posteo.de X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.533 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.533 tagged_above=-1000 required=7 tests=[MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, MISSING_SUBJECT=1.767, POSTEO_BTC_B=0.01, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, T_RCVD_IN_ABUSIX_WHITE=0.01] autolearn=disabled Received: from merlin.infradead.org (merlin.infradead.org [205.233.59.134]) by mx04.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DZ0Qk1lB3z10Zm for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2021 10:02:21 +0100 (CET) Authentication-Results: posteo.de; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=lists.openwrt.org Authentication-Results: posteo.de; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=lists.infradead.org header.i=@lists.infradead.org header.b=xkN+h566; dkim-atps=neutral DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=merlin.20170209; h=Sender:Content-Type:List-Help: Reply-To:List-Archive:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:Cc:From:List-Post: List-Id:Message-ID:MIME-Version:To:References:Date:In-reply-to:Subject: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Owner; bh=BodNZRxYJ/ulISXrw/8ihEr0xuP4150RxcU4mqQbzK4=; b=xkN+h566WmBldbwfdHkBfI157 PDL/CI0WdfrRg5YTGiuFXnzvBoBLF5IU/Bhnrmhetwjs9z85NME1nKUXF49jqPTUc3D2/zqtd5vMk eVXY3/uAHIzbMWZL/bQQkRCADY44YEKBGflD0HlIttHy9gtqaZLBalRL435qoqxfhab8GntX0GiVO GSBqAmBp5VObGm+1oj//HwddZz4QuFWyEObG4MPsqtw7MFGK8FVw1Dumq36cUxICpD7teIcUhDP1y jLQ5xuMsSXJfeGL+NPp4Ki5pWywa/L4W9GAlOijWiFXVtk++j66AoyHHsjDwYyklgieQzOW/37ha/ G0ztzuEKw==; Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=merlin.infradead.org) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1l92Nh-HM-50; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 08:58:53 + In-reply-to: Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2021 09:58:38 +0100 References: To: Baptiste Jonglez MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: List-Id: OpenWrt Development List List-Post: <mailto:openwrt-de...@lists.openwrt.org> From: "Etan Kissling (IC) via openwrt-devel" Precedence: list Cc: openwrt-de...@lists.openwrt.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: openwrt-de...@lists.openwrt.org List-Subscribe: <https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel>, <mailto:openwrt-devel-requ...@lists.openwrt.org?subject=subscribe> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/options/openwrt-devel>, <mailto:openwrt-devel-requ...@lists.openwrt.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.openwrt.org/pipermail/openwrt-devel/> Reply-To: "Etan Kissling (IC)" List-Help: <mailto:openwrt-devel-requ...@lists.openwrt.org?subject=help> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===4994977490922860622==" Sender: openwrt-devel Errors-To: openwrt-devel-bounces+sampablokuper=posteo@lists.openwrt.org X-getmail-retrieved-from-mailbox: INBOX Content-Length: 70
[Mailman-Users] Re: OpenPGP and S/MIME aware Mailman
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 10:58:01AM -0500, Dennis Putnam wrote:
> I'm looking to decrypt incoming email from subscribers and encrypt
> outgoing to each. The threat model is to not have any email into or
> out of the mailing list to be intercepted/monitored.
The two sentences imply different requirements.
Even if you satisfy the requirements in the first sentence, any attacker
on the wire will be able to capture ("monitor") the emails; and the
headers will be in plain-text (including the Subject header, sender, and
recipients), even if the body and attachments are encrypted:
https://ssd.eff.org/en/module/why-metadata-matters
Also, if the attacker has compromised the CA, then they will potentially
be able to decrypt S/MIME messages (but not OpenPGP messages, if the
encryption and key generation were well-implemented[1]).
If you really want to satisfy the requirements in the second sentence,
then you might want to look at DIME (aka Darkmail), mixers, or
alternatives to email:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Mail_Alliance
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mix_networks
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_remailers
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tutanota
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProtonMail
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Internet_privacy_software
[1] At least, not unless affordable quantum computing is available to
the attacker. If it is, then you would also need to use a
quantum-resistant cipher. Unfortunately, doing that is still very
inconvenient to do using GnuPG or similar.
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Q: When is top-posting a bad thing?
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Subject field not included in wrapper of DMARC emails
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 10:34:08AM -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Thank you for reporting this. It is a bug. It turns out that the logic > for determining the headers in the wrapper does not include Subject: > in the case where the list has no subject_prefix. > > This is now reported at > https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1915655 Thanks for investigating and filing a report for the bug! Sending much Free Software love to Gnu, this V-day. Thank you for maintaining Mailman :) > Perhaps you can convince the admins of the Mailman site to apply the > patch or add a subject_prefix to the list, either of which will avoid > the issue. I will alert the admins to this thread. On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 12:37:54PM -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Just for the record, that patch had issues. Here's the patch that will > be committed [...] Thank you for double-checking the patch! Sam -- A: When it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: When is top-posting a bad thing? () ASCII ribbon campaign. Please avoid HTML emails & proprietary /\ file formats. (Why? See e.g. https://v.gd/jrmGbS ). Thank you. -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: API/App based access to Mailman/Archives
On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 08:40:59AM -0600, Steven Clift wrote: > [..] there is nothing wrong with presenting that information based > on user expectations with options to change the view style to their > comfort. Maybe recommend that people using your mailing lists use threading-aware, plain text capable mail clients like Thunderbird (desktop) or K-9 Mail (mobile)? One helpful thing you might be able to do for users unused to email is to give them direct links to constantly-updated mbox archives of the relevant mailing lists, and instructions for importing those into their email client to gain local, searchable access to the archives (much as would be the case upon joining a forum, with the additional benefit of not needing to be online to perform the searches). > I've stuck with email centric options at the core because they grab > attention and create group bonds that destination social media > groups/web forums don't when the frame is geographic common interest > instead of pre-existing special/niche interest. But we've experienced > a huge generational decline in under 40 members with app expectations > (NextDoor) and Facebook Groups post look and feel expectations. > > We care about independent local community spaces online and it's worth > having an alternative! Can I just say thank you for: - trying to slow or reverse the takeover of independent discussion venues by surveillance-industrial-complex social media and advertising companies; - trying to find ways to keep email and mailing lists accessible and meaningful to people who have a very small grasp - and perhaps, initially at least, an even smaller interest in - the underlying technologies (and the ideals of universal interoperable, accessible standards that those technologies represent). On a few occasions, I have tried to get organisations to use Mailman instead of proprietary abominations like Slack or MS Teams. It was not easy; and in some cases I was not successful. I wish you the best possible fortune in your endeavours. Sam -- A: When it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: When is top-posting a bad thing? () ASCII ribbon campaign. Please avoid HTML emails & proprietary /\ file formats. (Why? See e.g. https://v.gd/jrmGbS ). Thank you. -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: What to do when hosting providers frequently gets listed on an RBL
On Sat, Jun 05, 2021 at 04:06:01PM -0500, dmitri maziuk wrote: > On 2021-06-05 3:31 PM, Christian Buser via Mailman-Users wrote: >> Hello Mark Sapiro. On Sat, 5 Jun 2021 12:44:52 -0700, you wrote: >> >>> In the past, Brian Carpenter of EMWD would have responded by now >>> with an offer to support your list and help move it, but tragically, >>> Brian recently died from a COVID virus infection. >> >> This is too bad news - was it mentioned in this list before? >> >> I would like to express my condolences to his family and to all who >> knew him! > > Same here, sorry to hear this. I'm just a lurker here. After seeing Brian's emails since joining this list, I had bookmarked EMWD as the commercial ML host to recommend to people. Huge respect for his commitment to Mailman hosting, and his parallel commitment to sharing his knowledge. I never knew him and never had occasion to be an EMWD customer, and I miss him. Clearly worked his butt off in life. I'm sad that his time to rest came so prematurely, and wish his family fortitude. He left them an amazing set of pointers for continuing his technical legacy. -- A: When it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: When is top-posting a bad thing? () ASCII ribbon campaign. Please avoid HTML emails & proprietary /\ file formats. (Why? See e.g. https://v.gd/jrmGbS ). Thank you. -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: How to delete large numbers of held messages
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 08:46:29PM -, lists--- via Mailman-Users wrote: > Thanks for the reply Mark, where do I get the discard script from? > > We are using Mailman3 but the only "discard" I can find belongs to > postfix: /usr/lib/postfix/sbin/discard > > There is a bin/discard on our Mailman 2.1 server but not on our > Mailman 3.1 server You posted your thread to the Mailman 2.1 mailing list: mailman-users@python.org You therefore got a reply appropriate to Mailman 2.1. The Mailman 3 mailing list is at mailman-us...@mailman3.org (I'm sorry, but I don't know how to discard with Mailman 3. Maybe someone on the Mailman 3 mailing list can help you.) Sam -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: Amazon SES and mailman
Also posted this question to the mailman3 list yesterday. Andrew Hodgson sent an informative answer, so that's probably it. "Amazon SES rewrites the Message-ID. Yep and for this reason I don't use it. The problem is worse in Mailman3 because it has a much more superior archive display which gets ruined when people reply to messages with different Message-Id headers and the threading can't be observed. I also had to use the anonymous mode with my list as Amazon didn't like me using random addresses in the From: header. I'm still looking for a tolerant mail gateway to use with Mailman." On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 9:18 AM Sam Darwin wrote: > > Hi, > > We are running mailman2 with postfix and CentOS. For a long time the > mail gateway was mailgun. Recently switched to Amazon SES. > > Now there are complaints that "threading" isn't right. That is, > organizing the results according to topic, and correlating replies > with specific other replies. > > It turns out that "The Amazon Simple Email Service (AWS SES) rewrites > the Message-ID header of outgoing emails." > > This means the References and In-Reply-To headers can't be relied on > anymore also, since they won't always match up. These headers: > > Message-ID: <127401d9389b$e874b7f0$b95e27d0$@gmail.com> > References: <126301d93891$58081b80$08185280$@gmail.com> > In-Reply-To: <126301d93891$58081b80$08185280$@gmail.com> > > might now appear as: > > In-Reply-To: > <010f0187dca41ec8-478dfff5-d27d-4879-ab72-072be2f76176-000...@us-east-2.amazonses.com> > References: > <010f0187d80eb0dd-93bebdd9-cabf-4ad6-a7f4-b5515bd22d31-000...@us-east-2.amazonses.com> > <010f0187dca41ec8-478dfff5-d27d-4879-ab72-072be2f76176-000...@us-east-2.amazonses.com> > > But perhaps a main problem is that for a large outgoing mailing, the > Message-ID might not be consistent when sending to 1000's of > recipients. Maybe not everyone sees the same Message-ID. > > Any thoughts on the topic? > > Has anyone used Amazon SES, and does the "threading" in the archives > line up correctly? > > Thanks, > Sam -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ Member address: arch...@jab.org
[Mailman-Users] List name stripped from subject header - how to prevent/workaround this?
(just realised my last message didn't have a subject... Doh!) Hi there, I've recently configured a mailman mailing list. Among other things, I've been thrown by the fact that any time I mention the name of the list in the "subject:" of an email, it gets stripped. The public name for the list is FYI, the prefix for the subject line is FYI - and if I write FYI anywhere in the subject line, it's automatically removed. I don't often mention the name of the list, but it'd be good to know what to do if I need to. Thanks, Jacob.// -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] (no subject)
Hi there, I've recently configured a mailman mailing list. Among other things, I've been thrown by the fact that any time I mention the name of the list in the "subject:" of an email, it gets stripped. The public name for the list is FYI, the prefix for the subject line is FYI - and if I write FYI anywhere in the subject line, it's automatically removed. I don't often mention the name of the list, but it'd be good to know what to do if I need to. Thanks, Jacob.// -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] List security: approved line got mailed out to list users
Hi. I've got my list configured as an announcement-only list, and the first few mailings I've sent have gone through exactly as planned. I use "Approved: password" as the first line to approve mailings. I inadvertently sent email to the list from one of my other email addresses, and when the message went out, the Approved: line was there, intact. There was a space above it, if that means anything (the sent email doesn't have that space...) I changed the password - easily done, no security problems there. But I'd still like to know what could have allowed this to happen. Since then, I've set up a test list and tried to replicate the behaviour - thus far no success. Anyone have any suggestions as to what might have happened? Thanks, Jacob Sam-La Rose Executive Editor "FYI" / Metaroar.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] List security: approved line got mailed out to listusers
Thanks for the response, Mark. I'm only just getting used to the concept of community via mailing list (I'm more used to user forums...!) On 26 Jan 2007, at 19:00, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Jacob Sam-La Rose wrote: >> >> I've got my list configured as an announcement-only list, and the >> first few mailings I've sent have gone through exactly as planned. I >> use "Approved: password" as the first line to approve mailings. I >> inadvertently sent email to the list from one of my other email >> addresses, and when the message went out, the Approved: line was >> there, intact. There was a space above it, if that means anything >> (the sent email doesn't have that space...) > > > What Mailman version is this? > 2.1.9.cp2 > Do you have a copy of the message from the list - complete with all > headers? If nothing else, if the list is archived, this copy will be > in archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox. Headers: Subject:FYI (important): any email to / Jacob this morning... Date: 26 January 2007 11:00:05 GMT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-Path:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 06:03:20 -0500 Received: from yosafa by mrfriendly.asmallorange.com with local- bsmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) id 1HAOrV-z6-3K for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 06:03:20 -0500 Received: from hypnotoad.liquidweb.com ([72.52.133.24]:50358) by mrfriendly.asmallorange.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) id 1HAOrU-xz-PZ for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 06:03:16 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50149 helo=hypnotoad.liquidweb.com) by hypnotoad.liquidweb.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) id 1HAOoT-00032t-0j; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 06:00:09 -0500 Received: from [81.103.209.178] (port=56306) by hypnotoad.liquidweb.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) id 1HAOoR-00032U-85 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 06:00:07 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mrfriendly.asmallorange.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=7.0 tests=AWL,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=ham version=3.1.7 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Clamantivirus-Scanner:This mail is clean X-Clamantivirus-Scanner:This mail is clean X-Beenthere:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list List-Id:"Everything you wanted to know about poetry, but didn't know who to ask..." List-Unsubscribe: <http://metaroar.com/mailman/listinfo/ fyi_metaroar.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://metaroar.com/pipermail/fyi_metaroar.com> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://metaroar.com/mailman/listinfo/ fyi_metaroar.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===2746362320716674074==" Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antiabuse:This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-Antiabuse:Primary Hostname - hypnotoad.liquidweb.com X-Antiabuse:Original Domain - jsamlarose.com X-Antiabuse:Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-Antiabuse:Sender Address Domain - metaroar.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Antivirus-Scanner:Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Do you need to see the body of the email? > > How did the message get sent to the list? Was it held and manually > approved (a clue that something was wrong with Approved:). Sent as email straight to the list - didn't have to be manually approved - it went straight through. > > Was the Approved: line that went to the list in the first text/plain > part of the message or was it in a subsequent part, e.g. an HTML > alternative part. It was in the first text/plain part - though in the sent version I've got of the mail, the Approved: line is the very first line. Once it went through the list, there was a line space at the top of the email, before the Approved: line... > > Approved: body lines must be the first non-blank line in the first > text/pl
[Mailman-Users] help list seems to be working but not sending
Mailman 2.1 seems to be running fine on my Unix Red Hat 9/Plesk 6.0 server. I can log in through the admin panel and change any setting, add my emails via mass subscription etc. However, when I send an email to my list nothing gets delivered and I receive no undelivered message. I have checked your site but cannot find out what might be causing this. Everything within mailman seems to be working fine except that the "go to list archives" link goes to here: http://porky.devel.redhat.com/pipermail/listname/ FYI My Mailman 2.1 program came bundled with my plesk 6.0 server software. Is it possible that it is installed incorrectly? http://lists.cyberbuss.com/mailman/admin/ list name "dabuss" password = "marley" Any information that you can provide that may help me solve this problem would be helpful. Thanks in advance I am absolutely stumped. C y b e r sAM CYBERBUSS -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
