Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP! My lists have lost their minds

2006-12-04 Thread Paul Tomblin
Quoting Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Paul Tomblin wrote:
> >The config.db was fine, but the config.pck *was* corrupted.  Or rather, it
> >appeared to be a copy of another lists, since doing a "list_members" on
> >both lists returned the same list.
> 
> And yes, your symptom seemed to be the result of a config.pck having
> been replaced somehow with that of another list. I don't know how that
> could have happened, but at this point you need to find the most
> recent backup of a good config.pck.

Yeah, I found one from a few weeks ago.  A few weeks ago I started backing
up to a new external USB disk, and on Sunday that disk crashed so I have
no recent backups.

Yesterday when I was rebuilding the archives for this machine, it got
extremely low on memory, and I guess that did something.  This is my first
experiment with Xen and LVM, and so far I'm not impressed.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP! My lists have lost their minds

2006-12-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
Paul Tomblin wrote:
>
>The config.db was fine, but the config.pck *was* corrupted.  Or rather, it
>appeared to be a copy of another lists, since doing a "list_members" on
>both lists returned the same list.


The config.db is left over from Mailman 2.0.x and is probably VERY out
of date and should probably just be discarded along with
config.db.last.

And yes, your symptom seemed to be the result of a config.pck having
been replaced somehow with that of another list. I don't know how that
could have happened, but at this point you need to find the most
recent backup of a good config.pck.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP! My lists have lost their minds

2006-12-04 Thread Paul Tomblin
Quoting Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Paul Tomblin wrote:
> >
> >Nope, I checked that - partyhats/config.pck looks fine, as does
> >techhats/config.pck.
> >
> >> >I've shut down all my lists, but how do I fix this?
> 
> 
> Did you either 'restart' or 'stop' and 'start' mailman before 'shutting
> down'?

/etc/init.d/mailman stop

> 
> Actually, I don't see how it is possible that the web admin interface
> would show data different from the config.pck unless the underlying
> file system is somehow broken.

The config.db was fine, but the config.pck *was* corrupted.  Or rather, it
appeared to be a copy of another lists, since doing a "list_members" on
both lists returned the same list.

Very odd.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP! My lists have lost their minds

2006-12-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
Paul Tomblin wrote:
>
>Nope, I checked that - partyhats/config.pck looks fine, as does
>techhats/config.pck.
>
>> >I've shut down all my lists, but how do I fix this?


Did you either 'restart' or 'stop' and 'start' mailman before 'shutting
down'?

Actually, I don't see how it is possible that the web admin interface
would show data different from the config.pck unless the underlying
file system is somehow broken.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP! My lists have lost their minds

2006-12-04 Thread Paul Tomblin
Quoting Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Paul Tomblin wrote:
> >All the email to one of my lists is coming with the [listname] header from
> >another list, and all the email to that list is coming with the [listname]
> >header from the other.  Even when I go to
> >http://list.xcski.com/mailman/listinfo/partyhats I see the page I should
> >be seeing at
> >http://list.xcski.com/mailman/listinfo/techhats/
> >(although the techhats pages seems ok).
> >
> >The partyhats archive is toast as well.
> 
> 
> It seems that somehow, the lists/techhats/config.pck file may have
> gotten copied/restored to lists/partyhats/config.pck. a similar thing
> may have happened with archives/private/techhats/ <->
> archives/private/partyhats/.

Nope, I checked that - partyhats/config.pck looks fine, as does
techhats/config.pck.

> >I've shut down all my lists, but how do I fix this?
> 
> 
> I hope you have a good backup :-(

Since it seems my backup and my current are the same, that's not going to
help much.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP! My lists have lost their minds

2006-12-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
Paul Tomblin wrote:

>All the email to one of my lists is coming with the [listname] header from
>another list, and all the email to that list is coming with the [listname]
>header from the other.  Even when I go to
>http://list.xcski.com/mailman/listinfo/partyhats I see the page I should
>be seeing at
>http://list.xcski.com/mailman/listinfo/techhats/
>(although the techhats pages seems ok).
>
>The partyhats archive is toast as well.


It seems that somehow, the lists/techhats/config.pck file may have
gotten copied/restored to lists/partyhats/config.pck. a similar thing
may have happened with archives/private/techhats/ <->
archives/private/partyhats/.


>I've shut down all my lists, but how do I fix this?


I hope you have a good backup :-(

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[Mailman-Users] HELP! My lists have lost their minds

2006-12-04 Thread Paul Tomblin
All the email to one of my lists is coming with the [listname] header from
another list, and all the email to that list is coming with the [listname]
header from the other.  Even when I go to
http://list.xcski.com/mailman/listinfo/partyhats I see the page I should
be seeing at
http://list.xcski.com/mailman/listinfo/techhats/
(although the techhats pages seems ok).

The partyhats archive is toast as well.

I've shut down all my lists, but how do I fix this?

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