Re: [Mailman-Users] duplicate pending requests

[Mark Sapiro]

On 10/08/2018 04:52 AM, Bernie Cosell wrote:
> Every morning I get two identical copies of the "moderator requests waiting". 
>  It 
> isn't a big deal but I'm wondering why.  I first thought it was sending one 
> copy to 
> the owner and one copy to the moderator [I had me in as both], so I removed 
> me 
> from moderator -- now there's no moderator and only the owner and still I get 
> two copies.   Did I misconfigure something?


Identical including all headers? If so, I don't know what the issue
would be, but it could be some filter rule in your MUA creating the
duplicate. Also, Mailman's smtp log and the MTA log may have clues. The
notice is sent first to the LIST-owner address, and then received by
Mailman and resent to the owner and moderator addresses.

If there are differences in headers, examine them for clues.

One likely possibility is you have both a system crontam and a Mailman
user crontab running Mailman's cron/checkdbs. It doesn't matter which
you have, but there should only be one.

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[Mailman-Users] duplicate pending requests

[Bernie Cosell]

Every morning I get two identical copies of the "moderator requests waiting".  
It 
isn't a big deal but I'm wondering why.  I first thought it was sending one 
copy to 
the owner and one copy to the moderator [I had me in as both], so I removed me 
from moderator -- now there's no moderator and only the owner and still I get 
two copies.   Did I misconfigure something?

  /b\
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Sorting pending requests?

[Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users]

Thanks for the responses, I have it doing what I want it to do now.

mjb.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Sorting pending requests?

[Mark Sapiro]

On 08/27/2018 04:18 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users wrote:
> I have a feeling I may have asked this question a few years ago. Maybe not.
> 
> When you go to the admin web page of pending moderator requests, the
> messages are presented in a list using alphabetical order of the
> sender.  Is there a way to easily change this so they are presented by
> date, oldest to newest?


From the NEWS file for Mailman 2.1.16

> - There is a new DISPLAY_HELD_SUMMARY_SORT_BUTTONS setting which if set
>   in mm_cfg.py will display a set of radio buttons in the admindb held
>   message summary to select how the held messages are sorted and grouped
>   for display. The exact setting determines the default grouping and
>   sorting.  See the description in Defaults.py for details.

and from Defaults.py

> # Shall the admindb held message summary display the grouping and sorting
> # option radio buttons?  Set this in mm_cfg.py to one of the following:
> # SSENDER -> Default to grouped and sorted by sender.
> # SSENDERTIME -> Default to grouped by sender and sorted by time.
> # STIME -> Default to ungrouped and sorted by time.
> DISPLAY_HELD_SUMMARY_SORT_BUTTONS = No

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[Mailman-Users] Sorting pending requests?

[Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users]

I have a feeling I may have asked this question a few years ago. Maybe not.

When you go to the admin web page of pending moderator requests, the 
messages are presented in a list using alphabetical order of the 
sender.  Is there a way to easily change this so they are presented by 
date, oldest to newest?


Thanks,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Remove pending requests from one address for all lists

[Christopher Adams]

Thank you, Mark. This is very helpful.

On Feb 15, 2017 2:45 PM, "Mark Sapiro"  wrote:

> On 02/15/2017 12:03 PM, Christopher Adams wrote:
> >
> > Is there a way to remove pending requests from a specific address for all
> > lists ? Our system periodically is flooded by requests like this. The
> > result is dependent on how the individual list is set up. There are over
> > 1000 lists on our server. The 'discard' command can remove all pending
> > requests to one specific list.
>
>
> See , mirrored at
> , described as:
>
> erase
> Remove an address or all addresses matching a regexp from the
> installation. I.e. for every list, if the address is a member, it is
> removed. If there are any held posts or (un)subscription requests from
> the address, they are removed too. Optionally, any subscription requests
> from the address waiting user confirmation are also removed.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Remove pending requests from one address for all lists

[Mark Sapiro]

On 02/15/2017 12:03 PM, Christopher Adams wrote:
> 
> Is there a way to remove pending requests from a specific address for all
> lists ? Our system periodically is flooded by requests like this. The
> result is dependent on how the individual list is set up. There are over
> 1000 lists on our server. The 'discard' command can remove all pending
> requests to one specific list.


See , mirrored at
, described as:

erase
Remove an address or all addresses matching a regexp from the
installation. I.e. for every list, if the address is a member, it is
removed. If there are any held posts or (un)subscription requests from
the address, they are removed too. Optionally, any subscription requests
from the address waiting user confirmation are also removed.

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[Mailman-Users] Remove pending requests from one address for all lists

[Christopher Adams]

Hell9o all,

Is there a way to remove pending requests from a specific address for all
lists ? Our system periodically is flooded by requests like this. The
result is dependent on how the individual list is set up. There are over
1000 lists on our server. The 'discard' command can remove all pending
requests to one specific list.

Is there a command line utility or script that can do this ?

Many thanks.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Some pending requests not showing up

[Frank Bell]

Well, I'm still adjusting as a Application Systems Admin as opposed to a 
Systems Admin.


It looks very much like the problem was that after migration to a new 
server the Sysadmin didn't shut the old server down, so the cronjobs 
were sending version 2.1.5 msgs to the newer 2.1.12 server.


We will know for sure tomorrow when the cron jobs kick off on the new 
server. (we shouldn't get notifications that don't exist)


Thank you,
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785-670-2334


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On 3/12/2012 8:12 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

Frank Bell wrote:

mailman 2.1.12
We have some notifications to the owners that are stating Post by
non-member to a members-only list

But when they follow the link, there are no pending requests.

On one of these I as admin followed the same link the first time and the
options were there, the second time I followed it, they weren't.


Check Mailman's vette log to see what happened to these requests.
Possibly they were discarded by the poster or another moderator.


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[Mailman-Users] Some pending requests not showing up

[Frank Bell]

mailman 2.1.12
We have some notifications to the owners that are stating Post by 
non-member to a members-only list


But when they follow the link, there are no pending requests.

On one of these I as admin followed the same link the first time and the 
options were there, the second time I followed it, they weren't.


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Some pending requests not showing up

[Mark Sapiro]

Frank Bell wrote:

mailman 2.1.12
We have some notifications to the owners that are stating Post by 
non-member to a members-only list

But when they follow the link, there are no pending requests.

On one of these I as admin followed the same link the first time and the 
options were there, the second time I followed it, they weren't.


Check Mailman's vette log to see what happened to these requests.
Possibly they were discarded by the poster or another moderator.

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[Mailman-Users] Missing pending requests in mailman database i.e no pending requests

[kibirango moses]

Hullo Users;
The administrator/moderator of the list gets a message saying that
there is a post pending approval. However, when he logs in and clicks
Tend to pending moderator requests there is nothing there. Basically
we keep getting pending notices but the queue is empty. It had been
working and no settings were changed.

When a message is sent to a mailing list there are no pending requests
but if sent to a list and some members of the list have the moderation
bit set as off they receive the message .

I am using mailman 2.1.13 on slackware linux 13

How can i solve this?
thanx in advance
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Missing pending requests in mailman database i.e nopending requests

[Mark Sapiro]

kibirango moses wrote:

The administrator/moderator of the list gets a message saying that
there is a post pending approval. However, when he logs in and clicks
Tend to pending moderator requests there is nothing there. Basically
we keep getting pending notices but the queue is empty. It had been
working and no settings were changed.


See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/EoCE.

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[Mailman-Users] MailMan Pending Requests not being removed.

[Gunville, Vincent]

Mailman running on RHEL4  version 2.1.5

 

Problem.  Daily email from cron lists 26000 pending requests.

You go into the GUI and there are like 10.  Clear the 10, and the GUI
lists no more pending requests.

Have run check_db and check_perms.  No errors produced.

Nothing other than normal messages in the logs.

Interesting thing is that if you run the cron job that produces the
pending requests email by hand... it lists the correct number.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Thanks, 

 

Vincent

 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] MailMan Pending Requests not being removed.

[Mark Sapiro]

Gunville, Vincent wrote:


Problem.  Daily email from cron lists 26000 pending requests.

You go into the GUI and there are like 10.  Clear the 10, and the GUI
lists no more pending requests.


snip


Interesting thing is that if you run the cron job that produces the
pending requests email by hand... it lists the correct number.



So, the cron that is sending you the 26000 requests message is a 
different one for a different (old, test, demo, whatever) Mailman 
installation.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] MailMan Pending Requests not being removed.

[Gunville, Vincent]

Cron is saying that there are 26000 pending requests.
But when you go into the gui there are 10, or however many come in that
day.
Most of them are junk, so you remove them.

The next day cron sends and email saying there are 26010 requests.

This is happening for only one list.
The rest of the lists are working fine.


-Original Message-
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To: Gunville, Vincent
Cc: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] MailMan Pending Requests not being removed.

Gunville, Vincent wrote:
 
 Problem.  Daily email from cron lists 26000 pending requests.
 
 You go into the GUI and there are like 10.  Clear the 10, and the GUI
 lists no more pending requests.
 
snip
 
 Interesting thing is that if you run the cron job that produces the
 pending requests email by hand... it lists the correct number.


So, the cron that is sending you the 26000 requests message is a 
different one for a different (old, test, demo, whatever) Mailman 
installation.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] MailMan Pending Requests not being removed.

[Mark Sapiro]

Gunville, Vincent wrote:

Cron is saying that there are 26000 pending requests.
But when you go into the gui there are 10, or however many come in that
day.
Most of them are junk, so you remove them.

The next day cron sends and email saying there are 26010 requests.

This is happening for only one list.
The rest of the lists are working fine.



This problem comes up on the Mailman-Users list from time to time, and 
in every case for which a resolution is reported, the notice is coming 
from a different Mailman instance.


It may be that you have a unique stiuation. The fact that the number 
increments is certainly unusual but my guess is still a parallel 
installation that may also be receiving posts to this list.


Check the Received: headers in the notice to see at what host it 
originates. Then as root on that host, do


find / -name checkdbs -print
find / -name request.pck -print

To see if you can find where these messages are coming from.

You could try to move the lists/listname/request.pck file aside for 
this list in case there is some possible corruption there that's causing 
this. It's OK to just move it aside. It will be recreated.


I really doubt that there is any problem with this request.pck. If there 
were, it would show up when you run cron/checkdbs by hand.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Missing pending requests

[Nigel Allen]

Sorry - should have added:

Follow the link in the notification email but get a:


 Mailman Administrative Database
 There are no pending requests.


N/


On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 10:38, Nigel Allen wrote:
 Hi all
 
 Ever since we had a screwed up mailman list and corrected it, we have
 been getting the message below.
 
 
  The [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list has 2 request(s) waiting
  for your consideration at:
  
  http://www.foo.bar/mailman/admindb/mailman
  
  Please attend to this at your earliest convenience.  This notice of
  pending requests, if any, will be sent out daily.
  
 
 We've deleted the xxx mailing list and recreated it but still get the
 same message every morning.
 
 Can anyone enlighten me as to what triggers this please? I just want to
 get rid of them. They were an accidental subscribe
 
 TIA
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Missing pending requests

[Mark Sapiro]

Nigel Allen wrote:

Sorry - should have added:

Follow the link in the notification email but get a:


 Mailman Administrative Database
 There are no pending requests.


N/


On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 10:38, Nigel Allen wrote:
 Hi all
 
 Ever since we had a screwed up mailman list and corrected it, we have
 been getting the message below.
 
 
  The [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list has 2 request(s) waiting
  for your consideration at:
  
  http://www.foo.bar/mailman/admindb/mailman
  
  Please attend to this at your earliest convenience.  This notice of
  pending requests, if any, will be sent out daily.
  
 
 We've deleted the xxx mailing list and recreated it but still get the
 same message every morning.
 
 Can anyone enlighten me as to what triggers this please? I just want to
 get rid of them. They were an accidental subscribe
 

Both cron/checkdbs which sends the daily reminder and Cgi/admindb.py
which produces the

 Mailman Administrative Database
 There are no pending requests.

message use the exact same method mlist.NumPendingRequests() to
determine how many requests there are. I don't see how they can
produce different results unless they are somehow importing different
versions of ListAdmin.py where the NumPendingRequests() method is
defined.

There was a change from 2.1.4 to 2.1.5. The earlier versions keep the
requests in a marshal lists/listname/request.db, and 2.1.5 and up
keep them in a pickle lists/listname/request.pck.

Do you possibly have an older Mailman version in a different location
and referenced by the cron jobs?

One thing you can do is go to the lists/listname/ directory and
remove request\.* and then go to the admindb page for the list which
will create a new request.pck (assuming 2.1.5+) just by virtue of your
visiting the page. This may help.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Missing pending requests

[Nigel Allen]

Thanks for the advice.

Check and definitely do not have an old version of Mailman and only one
version of ListAdmin.py.

Blew away the request.pck, reloaded admin page and then reran checkdbs -
all clear now.

Possible explanation: I previously had some host names and aliases
misconfigured and suspect that that might have the problem. When I fixed
that I still had the mailman list pointing to the wrong host.

Thanks for the quick response.

Antipodean Rgds

Nigel.



On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 11:18, Mark Sapiro wrote:
 Nigel Allen wrote:
 
 Sorry - should have added:
 
 Follow the link in the notification email but get a:
 
 
  Mailman Administrative Database
  There are no pending requests.
 
 
 N/
 
 
 On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 10:38, Nigel Allen wrote:
  Hi all
  
  Ever since we had a screwed up mailman list and corrected it, we have
  been getting the message below.
  
  
   The [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list has 2 request(s) waiting
   for your consideration at:
   
   http://www.foo.bar/mailman/admindb/mailman
   
   Please attend to this at your earliest convenience.  This notice of
   pending requests, if any, will be sent out daily.
   
  
  We've deleted the xxx mailing list and recreated it but still get the
  same message every morning.
  
  Can anyone enlighten me as to what triggers this please? I just want to
  get rid of them. They were an accidental subscribe
  
 
 Both cron/checkdbs which sends the daily reminder and Cgi/admindb.py
 which produces the
 
  Mailman Administrative Database
  There are no pending requests.
 
 message use the exact same method mlist.NumPendingRequests() to
 determine how many requests there are. I don't see how they can
 produce different results unless they are somehow importing different
 versions of ListAdmin.py where the NumPendingRequests() method is
 defined.
 
 There was a change from 2.1.4 to 2.1.5. The earlier versions keep the
 requests in a marshal lists/listname/request.db, and 2.1.5 and up
 keep them in a pickle lists/listname/request.pck.
 
 Do you possibly have an older Mailman version in a different location
 and referenced by the cron jobs?
 
 One thing you can do is go to the lists/listname/ directory and
 remove request\.* and then go to the admindb page for the list which
 will create a new request.pck (assuming 2.1.5+) just by virtue of your
 visiting the page. This may help.
 
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[Mailman-Users] No Pending Requests

[Pete Holsberg]

Recently, I've been getting email notifications that email
posted to the mailing list I run requires administrative
action, but when I go to the administrative website, there
are no administrative tasks pending.

What is going on?

Where are the pending requests stored?

Thanks,
Pete


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