Re: [Mailman-Users] RE: Disabling Passwords

2003-03-31 Thread Dallas Bethune
You can also unsubscribe via email so if you set up something to store  
the user's passwords somewhere, you could have another email form to  
cgi setup send off the appropriate unsubscribe request for you.

	Dallas



On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 08:45 am, Don V Black wrote:

I want my users to easily unsubscribe without needing to use a  
password.

Does this do it? Where is this field located? :
I set subscriptions to require approval, but not unsubscriptions
- Don V Black, Founder
  Digital ChoreoGraphics
At 09:39 PM 3/26/2003 -0500, Larry Hansford wrote:
At 08:23 PM 3/26/2003, Dallas Bethune wrote:

I'm not sure how he set it up, but you could just set up a
'subscription form' or whatever that your users fill in that hooks  
into
a cgi script that just sends off an email to the appropriate mailman
subscribe address.  If you subscribe an address via email with  
mailman,
it will just make up a random password for the user.  If your users
don't need to use it ever, they'll never know the difference.

Dallas
That's basically it.

I disabled:
   Sending Welcome Message
   Sending Goodbye Message
   Sending password reminders
   Digests
   Archives
I removed the footer with the web link
I set all list members as Moderated, except the ones allowed to post  
to the list
I set all moderated members or non-members to reject with a message  
of the address to send mail to
I set an Explicit Reply-To address
I set subscriptions to require approval, but not unsubscriptions

Initial setup is done with mass subscriptions.  Large lists are  
broken down into multiple text files with 1,000 names or less per  
list, and then mass subscriptions done multiple times.

Subsequent subscriptions are done either via the List Owner adding  
them, or via e-mail subscribe. the same with unsubscribes.

I think that is basically the setup.

Larry




On Wednesday, March 26, 2003, at 05:00 pm, Sullivan, John wrote:

Is that a manual process? Do they send the unsubscribe to you and  
then
you
take them off the list or is that a scripted feature of 2.1 that is  
not
available in 2.0.

If it is not manual how did you go about configuring it..

Thanks for your help..

John

-Original Message-
From: Larry Hansford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:06 PM
To: Sullivan, John
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Disabling Passwords
At 07:28 PM 3/26/2003, you wrote:
I am using Mailman V 2.0



I want to know how I can disable the need for a new subscriber to
create
password. I think the subscribers are going to find it quite  
annoying
that
they have to create a password for our newsletter. They should just
have
subscribe and unsubscribe options...
I use v2.1.1, and have a lot of lists set up as Newsletter style,  
and
none of the users are given passwords.  Since I don't allow  
archiving
of
the newsletters, and they don't want/need to go to the web page to
change
their settings, they are subscribed and unsubscribed without notices
being
sent to the members.

Larry




Your Comments are appreciated...



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Re: [Mailman-Users] RE: Disabling Passwords

2003-03-30 Thread Don V Black
I want my users to easily unsubscribe without needing to use a password.

Does this do it? Where is this field located? :
I set subscriptions to require approval, but not unsubscriptions
- Don V Black, Founder
  Digital ChoreoGraphics
At 09:39 PM 3/26/2003 -0500, Larry Hansford wrote:
At 08:23 PM 3/26/2003, Dallas Bethune wrote:

I'm not sure how he set it up, but you could just set up a
'subscription form' or whatever that your users fill in that hooks into
a cgi script that just sends off an email to the appropriate mailman
subscribe address.  If you subscribe an address via email with mailman,
it will just make up a random password for the user.  If your users
don't need to use it ever, they'll never know the difference.
Dallas
That's basically it.

I disabled:
   Sending Welcome Message
   Sending Goodbye Message
   Sending password reminders
   Digests
   Archives
I removed the footer with the web link
I set all list members as Moderated, except the ones allowed to post to 
the list
I set all moderated members or non-members to reject with a message of the 
address to send mail to
I set an Explicit Reply-To address
I set subscriptions to require approval, but not unsubscriptions

Initial setup is done with mass subscriptions.  Large lists are broken 
down into multiple text files with 1,000 names or less per list, and then 
mass subscriptions done multiple times.

Subsequent subscriptions are done either via the List Owner adding them, 
or via e-mail subscribe. the same with unsubscribes.

I think that is basically the setup.

Larry




On Wednesday, March 26, 2003, at 05:00 pm, Sullivan, John wrote:

Is that a manual process? Do they send the unsubscribe to you and then
you
take them off the list or is that a scripted feature of 2.1 that is not
available in 2.0.
If it is not manual how did you go about configuring it..

Thanks for your help..

John

-Original Message-
From: Larry Hansford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:06 PM
To: Sullivan, John
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Disabling Passwords
At 07:28 PM 3/26/2003, you wrote:
I am using Mailman V 2.0



I want to know how I can disable the need for a new subscriber to
create
password. I think the subscribers are going to find it quite annoying
that
they have to create a password for our newsletter. They should just
have
subscribe and unsubscribe options...
I use v2.1.1, and have a lot of lists set up as Newsletter style, and
none of the users are given passwords.  Since I don't allow archiving
of
the newsletters, and they don't want/need to go to the web page to
change
their settings, they are subscribed and unsubscribed without notices
being
sent to the members.
Larry




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[Mailman-Users] Re: Disabling Passwords

2003-03-26 Thread Larry Hansford
At 07:28 PM 3/26/2003, you wrote:
I am using Mailman V 2.0



I want to know how I can disable the need for a new subscriber to create
password. I think the subscribers are going to find it quite annoying that
they have to create a password for our newsletter. They should just have
subscribe and unsubscribe options...
I use v2.1.1, and have a lot of lists set up as Newsletter style, and 
none of the users are given passwords.  Since I don't allow archiving of 
the newsletters, and they don't want/need to go to the web page to change 
their settings, they are subscribed and unsubscribed without notices being 
sent to the members.

Larry




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[Mailman-Users] RE: Disabling Passwords

2003-03-26 Thread Sullivan, John
Is that a manual process? Do they send the unsubscribe to you and then you
take them off the list or is that a scripted feature of 2.1 that is not
available in 2.0.

If it is not manual how did you go about configuring it.. 

Thanks for your help.. 

John

-Original Message-
From: Larry Hansford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:06 PM
To: Sullivan, John
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Disabling Passwords

At 07:28 PM 3/26/2003, you wrote:
I am using Mailman V 2.0



I want to know how I can disable the need for a new subscriber to create
password. I think the subscribers are going to find it quite annoying that
they have to create a password for our newsletter. They should just have
subscribe and unsubscribe options...

I use v2.1.1, and have a lot of lists set up as Newsletter style, and 
none of the users are given passwords.  Since I don't allow archiving of 
the newsletters, and they don't want/need to go to the web page to change 
their settings, they are subscribed and unsubscribed without notices being 
sent to the members.

Larry




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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Disabling Passwords

2003-03-26 Thread ghhalley
Howdy Larry,

How did you make the changes for this.  Is it in the Admin
configuration panels?  (I don't remember it there)

Peace,
George Halley


--- 5:05:46 PM, you wrote:

 At 07:28 PM 3/26/2003, you wrote:
I am using Mailman V 2.0



I want to know how I can disable the need for a new subscriber to create
password. I think the subscribers are going to find it quite annoying that
they have to create a password for our newsletter. They should just have
subscribe and unsubscribe options...

 I use v2.1.1, and have a lot of lists set up as Newsletter style, and 
 none of the users are given passwords.  Since I don't allow archiving of 
 the newsletters, and they don't want/need to go to the web page to change 
 their settings, they are subscribed and unsubscribed without notices being 
 sent to the members.

 Larry




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Re: [Mailman-Users] RE: Disabling Passwords

2003-03-26 Thread Dallas Bethune
I'm not sure how he set it up, but you could just set up a  
'subscription form' or whatever that your users fill in that hooks into  
a cgi script that just sends off an email to the appropriate mailman  
subscribe address.  If you subscribe an address via email with mailman,  
it will just make up a random password for the user.  If your users  
don't need to use it ever, they'll never know the difference.

	Dallas

On Wednesday, March 26, 2003, at 05:00 pm, Sullivan, John wrote:

Is that a manual process? Do they send the unsubscribe to you and then  
you
take them off the list or is that a scripted feature of 2.1 that is not
available in 2.0.

If it is not manual how did you go about configuring it..

Thanks for your help..

John

-Original Message-
From: Larry Hansford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:06 PM
To: Sullivan, John
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Disabling Passwords
At 07:28 PM 3/26/2003, you wrote:
I am using Mailman V 2.0



I want to know how I can disable the need for a new subscriber to  
create
password. I think the subscribers are going to find it quite annoying  
that
they have to create a password for our newsletter. They should just  
have
subscribe and unsubscribe options...
I use v2.1.1, and have a lot of lists set up as Newsletter style, and
none of the users are given passwords.  Since I don't allow archiving  
of
the newsletters, and they don't want/need to go to the web page to  
change
their settings, they are subscribed and unsubscribed without notices  
being
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Larry




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Re: [Mailman-Users] RE: Disabling Passwords

2003-03-26 Thread Larry Hansford
At 08:23 PM 3/26/2003, Dallas Bethune wrote:

I'm not sure how he set it up, but you could just set up a
'subscription form' or whatever that your users fill in that hooks into
a cgi script that just sends off an email to the appropriate mailman
subscribe address.  If you subscribe an address via email with mailman,
it will just make up a random password for the user.  If your users
don't need to use it ever, they'll never know the difference.
Dallas
That's basically it.

I disabled:
   Sending Welcome Message
   Sending Goodbye Message
   Sending password reminders
   Digests
   Archives
I removed the footer with the web link
I set all list members as Moderated, except the ones allowed to post to the 
list
I set all moderated members or non-members to reject with a message of the 
address to send mail to
I set an Explicit Reply-To address
I set subscriptions to require approval, but not unsubscriptions

Initial setup is done with mass subscriptions.  Large lists are broken down 
into multiple text files with 1,000 names or less per list, and then mass 
subscriptions done multiple times.

Subsequent subscriptions are done either via the List Owner adding them, or 
via e-mail subscribe. the same with unsubscribes.

I think that is basically the setup.

Larry




On Wednesday, March 26, 2003, at 05:00 pm, Sullivan, John wrote:

Is that a manual process? Do they send the unsubscribe to you and then
you
take them off the list or is that a scripted feature of 2.1 that is not
available in 2.0.
If it is not manual how did you go about configuring it..

Thanks for your help..

John

-Original Message-
From: Larry Hansford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:06 PM
To: Sullivan, John
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Disabling Passwords
At 07:28 PM 3/26/2003, you wrote:
I am using Mailman V 2.0



I want to know how I can disable the need for a new subscriber to
create
password. I think the subscribers are going to find it quite annoying
that
they have to create a password for our newsletter. They should just
have
subscribe and unsubscribe options...
I use v2.1.1, and have a lot of lists set up as Newsletter style, and
none of the users are given passwords.  Since I don't allow archiving
of
the newsletters, and they don't want/need to go to the web page to
change
their settings, they are subscribed and unsubscribed without notices
being
sent to the members.
Larry




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