Re: [Mailman-Users] Rpms for RHEL/Centos 4?

[Oliver Schulze L.]

Mark Sapiro wrote:
> At the time John developed the patch, Tokio was pretty much the only
> person actively working on the 2.1.x branch. The necessary 'additional
> testing' mentioned in the above referenced thread was not done for
> lack of resources. This doesn't mean the patch is dead - it is still
> potentially a candidate for 2.2.
I understand.
Maybe the patch can be included (with a big warning) in the next alpha 
release of
mailman 2.1.x so that people can test it.
I think that if the patch does not change the behavior of the configure 
script until it
is told to do so, it can be a nice addition to mailman. Because people 
who does not
use it, won't be affected.

Personally, I can test on RH Linux, from RH9 to RHEL 2.1/3/4

Thanks
Oliver

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Rpms for RHEL/Centos 4?

[Mark Sapiro]

Oliver Schulze L. wrote:
>
>I'm a litle late to the FHS discusion, do you know why the FHS patch
>from RH was not accepted?
>http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers@python.org/msg08110.html

At the time John developed the patch, Tokio was pretty much the only
person actively working on the 2.1.x branch. The necessary 'additional
testing' mentioned in the above referenced thread was not done for
lack of resources. This doesn't mean the patch is dead - it is still
potentially a candidate for 2.2.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Rpms for RHEL/Centos 4?

[Oliver Schulze L.]

Hi Mark,
thanks for answering.

I'm a litle late to the FHS discusion, do you know why the FHS patch
from RH was not accepted?
http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers@python.org/msg08110.html

Should I post the question to the -developers list?

Thanks
Oliver

Mark Sapiro wrote:
> Oliver Schulze L. wrote:
>   
>> But there is one patch that I found important, and it is the
>> Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS) patch.
>>
>> Does mailman 2.1.8 support FHS?
>> 
>
> No.
>
> All we have at present, including 2.1.8, are the config options
>
> --prefix=dir
> --exec-prefix=dir
> --with-var-prefix=dir
>
>   

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Rpms for RHEL/Centos 4?

[Mark Sapiro]

Oliver Schulze L. wrote:
>
>But there is one patch that I found important, and it is the
>Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS) patch.
>
>Does mailman 2.1.8 support FHS?

No.

All we have at present, including 2.1.8, are the config options

--prefix=dir
--exec-prefix=dir
--with-var-prefix=dir

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Rpms for RHEL/Centos 4?

[Oliver Schulze L.]

Hi Brad,
I have been reading the patches from RedHat to mailman 2.1.5
Many of them are modification for RH and/or bug patches.

But there is one patch that I found important, and it is the
Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS) patch.

Does mailman 2.1.8 support FHS?

Many thanks
Oliver

Brad Knowles wrote:
> At 12:55 PM -0400 2006-05-05, Oliver Schulze L. wrote:
>
>>  anyone knows where to find rpms for the latest version of mailman?
>>  I need for CentOS 4.3
>
> Try looking on their pages, and using their resources for RPMs. We 
> do not provide any binary package versions of Mailman, and we don't 
> support any modifications that may have been made by someone who 
> created a binary packaged version of Mailman.
>
> We support the version of Mailman that is available in our 
> tarballs from our servers, and which you can install from source on 
> your own server.  Alternatively, you could pay someone else to install 
> that for you, or you could use a service provided by someone else, 
> etc
>
>
> To the degree that a binary packaged version of Mailman looks, 
> smells, and feels just like the version that we make available in 
> source form in our tarballs on our servers, we can provide support.
>

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Rpms for RHEL/Centos 4?

[Oliver Schulze L.]

Thanks for the tips.
Will start working on a solution right now.

Oliver

Todd Zullinger wrote:
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> Oliver Schulze L. wrote:
>   
>> anyone knows where to find rpms for the latest version of mailman?
>> I need for CentOS 4.3
>> 
>
> I can't answer your question directly, but if you don't find the rpms
> you are looking for, it's not very difficult to build your own.  Just
> grab the latest mailman source rpm for CentOS or RHEL and update the
> spec file to build mailman 2.1.8 instead of 2.1.5.
>   

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Rpms for RHEL/Centos 4?

[Dewhirst, Rob]

> anyone knows where to find rpms for the latest version of mailman?
> I need for CentOS 4.3

the first software I built from source on linux was mailman, and I did
this because I could not get the RPMs to work right.  Just FYI.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Rpms for RHEL/Centos 4?

[Todd Zullinger]

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Oliver Schulze L. wrote:
> anyone knows where to find rpms for the latest version of mailman?
> I need for CentOS 4.3

I can't answer your question directly, but if you don't find the rpms
you are looking for, it's not very difficult to build your own.  Just
grab the latest mailman source rpm for CentOS or RHEL and update the
spec file to build mailman 2.1.8 instead of 2.1.5.

You'll want to make a few small tweaks, like removing patches for the
security issues that have been fixed in mailman between 2.1.5 and
2.1.8 as well as update the python Requires: from 2.2 to 2.3 (I
believe that's what mailman now requires).

The last one isn't strictly necessary as it appears that CentOS 4.3
includes python 2.3 already, but it will help if you decide later to
try and rebuild your source rpm for another system with an older
python.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Rpms for RHEL/Centos 4?

[Brad Knowles]

At 12:55 PM -0400 2006-05-05, Oliver Schulze L. wrote:

>  anyone knows where to find rpms for the latest version of mailman?
>  I need for CentOS 4.3

Try looking on their pages, and using their resources for RPMs. 
We do not provide any binary package versions of Mailman, and we 
don't support any modifications that may have been made by someone 
who created a binary packaged version of Mailman.

We support the version of Mailman that is available in our 
tarballs from our servers, and which you can install from source on 
your own server.  Alternatively, you could pay someone else to 
install that for you, or you could use a service provided by someone 
else, etc


To the degree that a binary packaged version of Mailman looks, 
smells, and feels just like the version that we make available in 
source form in our tarballs on our servers, we can provide support.

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[Mailman-Users] Rpms for RHEL/Centos 4?

[Oliver Schulze L.]

Hi,
anyone knows where to find rpms for the latest version of mailman?
I need for CentOS 4.3

Many thanks
Oliver

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