Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and qmail problem

2015-10-30 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 10/30/2015 08:25 AM, Abdallah Dhaou wrote:
> hello,
> 
> So after some changes , I got another error :/
> 
> -Start copy
> ---
> Group_mismatch_error.__Mailman_expected_the_mail/wrapper_script_to_be_executed_as_group_"daemon",_but/the_system's_mail_server_executed_the_mail_script_as/group_"nofiles".__Try_tweaking_the_mail_server_to_run_the/script_as_group_"daemon",_or_re-run_configure,_/providing_the_command_line_option_`--with-mail-gid=nofiles'./
> 
> -End copy


See the FAQ at 

If you still have issues, please post how you installed Mailman (source
or Debian package) and if you installed from package, be sure you have
read /usr/share/doc/mailman/README.Debian and everything else in the
package related to qmail.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and qmail problem

2015-10-30 Thread Abdallah Dhaou 

hello,

So after some changes , I got another error :/

-Start copy 
---

Group_mismatch_error.__Mailman_expected_the_mail/wrapper_script_to_be_executed_as_group_"daemon",_but/the_system's_mail_server_executed_the_mail_script_as/group_"nofiles".__Try_tweaking_the_mail_server_to_run_the/script_as_group_"daemon",_or_re-run_configure,_/providing_the_command_line_option_`--with-mail-gid=nofiles'./
-End copy 
---



the script check_perms  don't return any error
-Start copy 
---

ipb-srv41:/var/qmail# /usr/lib/mailman/bin/check_perms
No problems found
-End copy 
---


any help will be much appreciated.

On 29-10-2015 16:13, Mark Sapiro wrote:

On 10/29/2015 08:52 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

Those aliases are generic for sendmail and postfix. Qmail is different.
See  for some
information about mail delivery from Qmail to Mailman.

Also note if you are installing the Debian Mailman package with Qmail as
the MTA, this should somehow be covered in Debian's documentation and if
it isn't that's a Debian bug. See .


I am reminded by Fabian Santiago's reply that there is also a
qmail-to-mailman.py script. In a source install, the base script is in
contrib/qmail-to-mailman.py and a 'configured' script is in
build/contrib/qmail-to-mailman.py

I don't know what the situation is in the Debian package, but given
Debian's proclivity towards postfix-to-mailman.py (not distributed by
the GNU Mailman project), they may well have a way to set this up for Qmail.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and qmail problem

2015-10-29 Thread Lindsay Haisley 
On Thu, 2015-10-29 at 08:52 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 10/29/2015 06:19 AM, Abdallah Dhaou wrote:
> > I have a problem configuring mailman 2.1.18 with qmail on Debian .
> ...
> > To finish creating your mailing list, you must edit your /etc/aliases (or
> > equivalent) file by adding the following lines, and possibly running the
> > `newaliases' program:
> > 
> > ## list1 mailing list
> > list1:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post list1"
> > list1-admin:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin list1"
> > list1-bounces:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces list1"
> > list1-confirm:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm list1"
> > list1-join: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join list1"
> > list1-leave:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave list1"
> > list1-owner:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner list1"
> > list1-request:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request list1"
> > list1-subscribe:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe list1"
> > list1-unsubscribe:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe list1"
> > 
> ...
> > My questions are the following:
> > 1- where those alias are stored ?
> > 2- is there an addional config to do with qmail ?
> > 3- why the user receive email to subscribe/unsubscribe , but the admin
> > couldn't sedn email to the list ?

There's an excellent program in Mailman's contrib folder in the source
called qmail-to-mailman.py which eliminates the need for specific
aliases as you have listed. It's been years since I used qmail but as I
recall, qmail has the ability to process a mail to a list through a
configurable program. I adapted qmail-to-mailman.py to create
courier-to-mailman (also in contrib) for the courier MTA, which is
similar to qmail in some regards, and it works perfectly.


> Those aliases are generic for sendmail and postfix. Qmail is different.
> See  for some
> information about mail delivery from Qmail to Mailman.
> 
> Also note if you are installing the Debian Mailman package with Qmail as
> the MTA, this should somehow be covered in Debian's documentation and if
> it isn't that's a Debian bug. See .
> 
> As to your third question, Mailman has no problem delivering outgoing
> mail to Qmail via SMTP to port 25 on localhost, but Qmail doesn't know
> how to deliver incoming list mail to Mailman. The info at
>  should help with
> that.
> 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and qmail problem

2015-10-29 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 10/29/2015 08:52 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> 
> Those aliases are generic for sendmail and postfix. Qmail is different.
> See  for some
> information about mail delivery from Qmail to Mailman.
> 
> Also note if you are installing the Debian Mailman package with Qmail as
> the MTA, this should somehow be covered in Debian's documentation and if
> it isn't that's a Debian bug. See .


I am reminded by Fabian Santiago's reply that there is also a
qmail-to-mailman.py script. In a source install, the base script is in
contrib/qmail-to-mailman.py and a 'configured' script is in
build/contrib/qmail-to-mailman.py

I don't know what the situation is in the Debian package, but given
Debian's proclivity towards postfix-to-mailman.py (not distributed by
the GNU Mailman project), they may well have a way to set this up for Qmail.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and qmail problem

2015-10-29 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 10/29/2015 06:19 AM, Abdallah Dhaou wrote:
> I have a problem configuring mailman 2.1.18 with qmail on Debian .
...
> To finish creating your mailing list, you must edit your /etc/aliases (or
> equivalent) file by adding the following lines, and possibly running the
> `newaliases' program:
> 
> ## list1 mailing list
> list1:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post list1"
> list1-admin:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin list1"
> list1-bounces:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces list1"
> list1-confirm:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm list1"
> list1-join: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join list1"
> list1-leave:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave list1"
> list1-owner:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner list1"
> list1-request:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request list1"
> list1-subscribe:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe list1"
> list1-unsubscribe:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe list1"
> 
...
> My questions are the following:
> 1- where those alias are stored ?
> 2- is there an addional config to do with qmail ?
> 3- why the user receive email to subscribe/unsubscribe , but the admin
> couldn't sedn email to the list ?


Those aliases are generic for sendmail and postfix. Qmail is different.
See  for some
information about mail delivery from Qmail to Mailman.

Also note if you are installing the Debian Mailman package with Qmail as
the MTA, this should somehow be covered in Debian's documentation and if
it isn't that's a Debian bug. See .

As to your third question, Mailman has no problem delivering outgoing
mail to Qmail via SMTP to port 25 on localhost, but Qmail doesn't know
how to deliver incoming list mail to Mailman. The info at
 should help with
that.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and qmail problem

2015-10-29 Thread fsantiago 
See if this helps you:

http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Mailman

But probably a question better asked on a Qmail related mailing list like:

qmailtoaster-l...@qmailtoaster.com


Sincerely,

Fabian Santiago

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 29, 2015, at 9:19 AM, Abdallah Dhaou  wrote:
> 
> I have a problem configuring mailman 2.1.18 with qmail on Debian .
> 
> Short version : The package is installed, users could subscribe to the list, 
> unsubscribe ... everything work fine, but it always fail to send an email to 
> all members.
> 
> Long version : The package is installed, users could subscribe to the list, 
> unsubscribe ... everything work fine. Once I access to the email of the 
> list's administartor and try to send an email to all members, it always fail. 
> This is what I have in the log
> 
>  start copy 
> @4000563118d016611294 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
> @4000563118fa225c516c new msg 394714
> @4000563118fa225c610c info msg 394714: bytes 1519 from 
>  qp 30138 uid 901
> @4000563118fa229d1774 starting delivery 1: msg 394714 to local 
> l...@ipb-srv41.domain41.com
> @4000563118fa229d1f44 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
> @4000563118fa229d232c starting delivery 2: msg 394714 to local 
> list-listso...@lists.ipb-srv41.domain41.com
> @4000563118fa229d2714 status: local 2/10 remote 0/20
> @4000563118fa255f583c delivery 2: failure: 
> Sorry,_no_mailbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/
> @4000563118fa255f67dc status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
> @4000563118fa29c93654 delivery 1: success: 
> October_28,_2015,_6:50_pm_-_30142_-_DIR:/tmp/emails/mail1446058224.65219600/_Fim/did_0+0+1/
> @4000563118fa29c949dc status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
> @4000563118fa2b23730c bounce msg 394714 qp 30153
> @4000563118fa2b237ec4 end msg 394714
> @4000563118fa2b2ac9f4 new msg 394975
> @4000563118fa2b2acddc info msg 394975: bytes 2092 from <> qp 30153 uid 906
> @4000563118fa2b5e64e4 starting delivery 3: msg 394975 to local 
> l...@ipb-srv41.domain41.com
> @4000563118fa2b5e6cb4 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
> @4000563118fa2b5e6cb4 starting delivery 4: msg 394975 to local 
> so...@domain41.com
> @4000563118fa2b5e709c status: local 2/10 remote 0/20
>  End copy 
> 
> While I create a list from the command line
> ---
> ipb-srv41:/var/qmail# newlist list1
> Enter the email of the person running the list: administra...@domain41.com
> Initial list1 password:
> To finish creating your mailing list, you must edit your /etc/aliases (or
> equivalent) file by adding the following lines, and possibly running the
> `newaliases' program:
> 
> ## list1 mailing list
> list1:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post list1"
> list1-admin:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin list1"
> list1-bounces:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces list1"
> list1-confirm:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm list1"
> list1-join: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join list1"
> list1-leave:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave list1"
> list1-owner:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner list1"
> list1-request:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request list1"
> list1-subscribe:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe list1"
> list1-unsubscribe:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe list1"
> 
> Hit enter to notify list1 owner...
> 
> ipb-srv41:/var/qmail#
> ---
> 
> My questions are the following:
> 1- where those alias are stored ?
> 2- is there an addional config to do with qmail ?
> 3- why the user receive email to subscribe/unsubscribe , but the admin 
> couldn't sedn email to the list ?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Qmail

2008-01-16 Thread Jaco Kroon 
Brad Knowles wrote:
> On 1/16/08, Chris Penn wrote:
> 
>>  Does anyone know howto setup Qmail and Mailman to work together. The
>>  mailman site has not been very helpful. I am attempting to do this on
>>  Centos 5 using Mailman 2.1.9.
> 
> Unfortunately, qmail hasn't really been updated in about a decade, 
> and doesn't play particularly well with non-djb code.  What we've 
> been able to figure out for integration with qmail is found in the 
> Mailman documentation, although you may find some more tidbits in the 
> archives.
> 

Try this:  http://www.kroon.co.za/howto.php?howto=qmail_mailman

It's how I got it working a while back.  Should still all be in order.
If there is something that doesn't work, please let me know so I can
update it.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Qmail

2008-01-16 Thread Brad Knowles 
On 1/16/08, Chris Penn wrote:

>  Does anyone know howto setup Qmail and Mailman to work together. The
>  mailman site has not been very helpful. I am attempting to do this on
>  Centos 5 using Mailman 2.1.9.

Unfortunately, qmail hasn't really been updated in about a decade, 
and doesn't play particularly well with non-djb code.  What we've 
been able to figure out for integration with qmail is found in the 
Mailman documentation, although you may find some more tidbits in the 
archives.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Qmail/Vpopmail

2007-05-03 Thread Simon Schuh 
I tried and tried to create the .qmail files, but now I found out that I 
simply had to add a line in /var/qmail/users/assign:
+mailman-:mailman:280:6:/usr/local/mailman:-:: (6 is the 
vpopmail group).
Now it works fine. There is no need to manually create .qmail files, the 
script handles it all.

Thank you all!

Simon

Mark Sapiro schrieb:
> Simon Schuh wrote:
>   
>> In /home/vpopmail/domains there is a directory for every domain.
>> Like: /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/
>> In there are .qmail files for all defined adresses.
>>
>> Mailman didn't create any files there.
>> Can I tell Mailman where to create the files or how I'm doing this?
>> 
>
>
> Mailman does not create any aliases for qmail. You have to create them
> manually, 10 for each list. When you create a list, you should get a
> report and an email about the aliases similar to the following for the
> 'mailman' list.
>
> ## mailman mailing list
> mailman:   "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman"
> mailman-admin: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman"
> mailman-bounces:   "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman"
> mailman-confirm:   "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman"
> mailman-join:  "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman"
> mailman-leave: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman"
> mailman-owner: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman"
> mailman-request:   "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman"
> mailman-subscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman"
> mailman-unsubscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe
> mailman"
>
> but this is not the format for qmail alaises. I know nothing about
> qmail. All I know is at
>  which you say
> you've read.
>
> What it says to me is that for each list you need to create 10 files
> named .qmail-x where x is from the 'local parts above (e.g. mailman.
> mailman-admin, etc.). These files should be created in the
> /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/ directory for the list domain.
>
> The contents of these files should be something related to the
> respective pipe command in the above list similar to
>
> |preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman
>
> etc.
>
> This is only my understanding of what I read in
> . It may not be
> correct.
>
> For further information, you'd have to see qmail documention or ask on
> a qmail list or wait until someone with relevant experience sees your
> post on this list.
>
> As an alternate to aliases in qmail, there is a contributed script at
> contrib/qmail-to-mailman.py in the Mailman source distribution and a
> brief note about it at
> . It is 8 years
> old, but it might work.
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Qmail/Vpopmail

2007-05-02 Thread Brad Knowles 
On 5/2/07, Simon Schuh wrote:

>>>   I'm using ServerAdmin24, it's developed by the German ISP Strato.
>>
>>  In which case, you need to ask your questions of them.
>>
>>  If you didn't install the software yourself, then you need to ask the
>>  people who did.
>>
>  I didn't install it. It was a ready-to-run server. But why should I ask
>  them how to configure Mailman?

Because they may not have followed all of our instructions, or put 
things in a different location than we specify.

If you install the software yourself, from the instructions we 
provide on our site(s), and you don't use a binary package version 
that someone else created, etc... then we're much more likely to help 
you.

>  Sorry, I don't understand that connection.

The issue is that it's not clear to me who is responsible for 
installing the software on your system, and whether or not it's 
already installed but not yet properly configured, etc

>  Nobody installed Mailman. This is what I'm trying right now. (Like I
>  wrote before)

Okay, I missed that part.  I thought that you'd said that it was 
developed by a German ISP, and it wasn't clear to me what you meant 
by this.

>  But my Mailman still doesn't work, so I thought I want to try to ask you
>  guys and there are actually people you tried to help me.
>  But if you think, I'm wrong here, tell me and I will not bother you any
>  more.

I don't do qmail, so I doubt I'm going to be able to provide much help.

I was just trying to help you find the right people that you need to 
talk to, based on what I could understand of your situation with your 
servers and who installed what, etc

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Qmail/Vpopmail

2007-05-02 Thread Michael Kabot 


Mark,

Thanks for adding this information !

Simon,

I use Plesk for server control which automatically creates the files Mark is
talking about.  Thus I don't have to create them manually.

>From my installation of Qmail, I can confirm that all the files discussed
below need to be created.  That is how Qmail knows about the mailing lists
and their names.  Take an existing .qmail- file in the Vpopmail
directory and use it as an example of how to name the files and their proper
permissions.

  
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| -Original Message-
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| On Behalf Of Mark Sapiro
| Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:10 PM
| To: Simon Schuh; mailman-users@python.org
| Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Qmail/Vpopmail
| 
| 
| Simon Schuh wrote:
| >
| >In /home/vpopmail/domains there is a directory for every domain.
| >Like: /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/
| >In there are .qmail files for all defined adresses.
| >
| >Mailman didn't create any files there.
| >Can I tell Mailman where to create the files or how I'm doing this?
| 
| 
| Mailman does not create any aliases for qmail. You have to 
| create them manually, 10 for each list. When you create a 
| list, you should get a report and an email about the aliases 
| similar to the following for the 'mailman' list.
| 
| ## mailman mailing list
| mailman:   "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman"
| mailman-admin: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman"
| mailman-bounces:   "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman"
| mailman-confirm:   "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman"
| mailman-join:  "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman"
| mailman-leave: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman"
| mailman-owner: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman"
| mailman-request:   "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman"
| mailman-subscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman 
| subscribe mailman"
| mailman-unsubscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman 
| unsubscribe mailman"
| 
| but this is not the format for qmail alaises. I know nothing 
| about qmail. All I know is at 
| <http://www.list.org/mailman-install/qmail-issues.html> which 
| you say you've read.
| 
| What it says to me is that for each list you need to create 
| 10 files named .qmail-x where x is from the 'local parts 
| above (e.g. mailman. mailman-admin, etc.). These files should 
| be created in the /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/ 
| directory for the list domain.
| 
| The contents of these files should be something related to 
| the respective pipe command in the above list similar to
| 
| |preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman
| 
| etc.
| 
| This is only my understanding of what I read in 
| <http://www.list.org/mailman-install/qmail-issues.html>. It 
| may not be correct.
| 
| For further information, you'd have to see qmail documention 
| or ask on a qmail list or wait until someone with relevant 
| experience sees your post on this list.
| 
| As an alternate to aliases in qmail, there is a contributed 
| script at contrib/qmail-to-mailman.py in the Mailman source 
| distribution and a brief note about it at 
| <http://www.list.org/mailman-install/qmail-issues.html>. It 
| is 8 years old, but it might work.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Qmail/Vpopmail

2007-05-02 Thread Mark Sapiro 
Simon Schuh wrote:
>
>In /home/vpopmail/domains there is a directory for every domain.
>Like: /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/
>In there are .qmail files for all defined adresses.
>
>Mailman didn't create any files there.
>Can I tell Mailman where to create the files or how I'm doing this?


Mailman does not create any aliases for qmail. You have to create them
manually, 10 for each list. When you create a list, you should get a
report and an email about the aliases similar to the following for the
'mailman' list.

## mailman mailing list
mailman:   "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman"
mailman-admin: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman"
mailman-bounces:   "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman"
mailman-confirm:   "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman"
mailman-join:  "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman"
mailman-leave: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman"
mailman-owner: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman"
mailman-request:   "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman"
mailman-subscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman"
mailman-unsubscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe
mailman"

but this is not the format for qmail alaises. I know nothing about
qmail. All I know is at
 which you say
you've read.

What it says to me is that for each list you need to create 10 files
named .qmail-x where x is from the 'local parts above (e.g. mailman.
mailman-admin, etc.). These files should be created in the
/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/ directory for the list domain.

The contents of these files should be something related to the
respective pipe command in the above list similar to

|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman

etc.

This is only my understanding of what I read in
. It may not be
correct.

For further information, you'd have to see qmail documention or ask on
a qmail list or wait until someone with relevant experience sees your
post on this list.

As an alternate to aliases in qmail, there is a contributed script at
contrib/qmail-to-mailman.py in the Mailman source distribution and a
brief note about it at
. It is 8 years
old, but it might work.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Qmail/Vpopmail

2007-05-02 Thread Michael Kabot 

Simon,

Ok... Sounds like you have your problem defined.
- Mailman is interacting with Qmail fine
- Vpopmail has move the "mailnames" directory into its own directory
structure
- Qmail seems to know this, but Mailman does not

Just for a sanity check
- As root run Mailman's bin/check_perms

I'm at the end of my experience level.

Can anyone else on the list jump in?

  
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| -Original Message-
| From: Simon Schuh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
| Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 3:12 AM
| To: mailman-users@python.org
| Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Qmail/Vpopmail
| 
| 
| I'm using ServerAdmin24, it's developed by the German ISP 
| Strato. The normal e-mail functions work fine.
| 
| In  /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains there is one entry for 
| every domain.
| Like: mydomain.tld:mydomain.tld
| There Mailman added one line: lists.mydomain.tld:mailman
| 
| In /home/vpopmail/domains there is a directory for every domain.
| Like: /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/
| In there are .qmail files for all defined adresses.
| 
| Mailman didn't create any files there.
| Can I tell Mailman where to create the files or how I'm doing this?
| 
| 
| 
| Michael Kabot schrieb:
| > Can you see an .qmail- files under the /var/vpopmail/domains 
| > diretory?
| >
| > Are you using Plesk, Cpanel, or any type of server/domain control 
| > panel?
| >
| > If so, create an email alias through the control panel for 
| one of your 
| > domains .
| >
| > Check to see if the .qmail- file shows up in 
| > /var/vpopmail/domains/.
| >
| > If it does not, that is not where Qmail configuration files are 
| > stored.
| >
| > Unfortunately, I am not familiar with Vpopmail or how it interfaces 
| > with Qmail.
| >
| >
| > In Service,
| >
| > Michael Kabot
| > President - SOAR
| > Scouting Online
| > Affordable & Reliable
| > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| > 585-388-0211
| >
| > www.soarol.com
| >
| 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Qmail/Vpopmail

2007-05-02 Thread Simon Schuh 
Hi Brad,

>>  I'm using ServerAdmin24, it's developed by the German ISP Strato.
>
> In which case, you need to ask your questions of them.
>
> If you didn't install the software yourself, then you need to ask the 
> people who did.
>
I didn't install it. It was a ready-to-run server. But why should I ask 
them how to configure Mailman?
Sorry, I don't understand that connection.
>
> All I know is that we have some documentation on integrating Mailman 
> with qmail, including the page at 
> , but there may 
> be others.
>
> However, if you didn't install Mailman yourself, then there may have 
> been some things that were not done, or perhaps were done differently, 
> and you need to talk to the people who installed it for you.
>

Nobody installed Mailman. This is what I'm trying right now. (Like I 
wrote before)
I followed the official Mailman documentation as far as I could and I 
read the site about qmail, which you mentioned, several times.
But not everybody has the same intelligence and knowledge, at least I 
couldn't get Mailman to work.
I read some other websites, too. If you want to know, here are a few:
http://www.flounder.net/qmail/qmail-howto.html 
http://www.hesketh.com/publications/mailman_made_easy.html 
http://www.inter7.com/?page=vpopmail
http://www.kroon.co.za/howto.php?howto=qmail_mailman 
http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html 
http://nav.bandersnatch.org/clues/qmail-vpopmail-mailman.html
And I also read in the achieves of different Mailingslists. In 
Mailman-Users I actually found some entries concerning my problem.
But my Mailman still doesn't work, so I thought I want to try to ask you 
guys and there are actually people you tried to help me.
But if you think, I'm wrong here, tell me and I will not bother you any 
more.

Simon Schuh

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Qmail/Vpopmail

2007-05-02 Thread Brad Knowles 
On 5/2/07, Simon Schuh wrote:

>  I'm using ServerAdmin24, it's developed by the German ISP Strato.

In which case, you need to ask your questions of them.

If you didn't install the software yourself, then you need to ask the 
people who did.

>  Can I tell Mailman where to create the files or how I'm doing this?

All I know is that we have some documentation on integrating Mailman 
with qmail, including the page at 
, but there 
may be others.

However, if you didn't install Mailman yourself, then there may have 
been some things that were not done, or perhaps were done 
differently, and you need to talk to the people who installed it for 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Qmail/Vpopmail

2007-05-02 Thread Simon Schuh 
I'm using ServerAdmin24, it's developed by the German ISP Strato.
The normal e-mail functions work fine.

In  /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains there is one entry for every domain.
Like: mydomain.tld:mydomain.tld
There Mailman added one line: lists.mydomain.tld:mailman

In /home/vpopmail/domains there is a directory for every domain.
Like: /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/
In there are .qmail files for all defined adresses.

Mailman didn't create any files there.
Can I tell Mailman where to create the files or how I'm doing this?



Michael Kabot schrieb:
> Can you see an .qmail- files under the /var/vpopmail/domains
> diretory?
>
> Are you using Plesk, Cpanel, or any type of server/domain control panel?
>
> If so, create an email alias through the control panel for one of your
> domains .
>
> Check to see if the .qmail- file shows up in
> /var/vpopmail/domains/.
>
> If it does not, that is not where Qmail configuration files are stored.
>
> Unfortunately, I am not familiar with Vpopmail or how it interfaces with
> Qmail.
>
>
> In Service,
>
> Michael Kabot
> President - SOAR
> Scouting Online
> Affordable & Reliable
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 585-388-0211
>
> www.soarol.com
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Qmail/Vpopmail

2007-05-01 Thread Michael Kabot 

Can you see an .qmail- files under the /var/vpopmail/domains
diretory?

Are you using Plesk, Cpanel, or any type of server/domain control panel?

If so, create an email alias through the control panel for one of your
domains .

Check to see if the .qmail- file shows up in
/var/vpopmail/domains/.

If it does not, that is not where Qmail configuration files are stored.

Unfortunately, I am not familiar with Vpopmail or how it interfaces with
Qmail.

  
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| -Original Message-
| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
| [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
| On Behalf Of Simon Schuh
| Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 10:57 PM
| To: mailman-users@python.org
| Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Qmail/Vpopmail
| 
| 
| My Qmail files are in /home/vpopmail/domains, but there are 
| no files for 
| Mailman.
| I tried to create them manually, but probably did that wrong. 
| Where should they be?
| 
| Simon Schuh
| 
| 
| 
| Michael Kabot schrieb:
| > Simon,
| >
| > The Qmail files can usually be found in 
| /var/qmail/mailnames.  There 
| > should be a directory for each domain. Within these 
| directories Qmail 
| > uses .qmail- filenames for configuration so they are easily 
| > missed.  Make sure to use 'ls -al' to see them.
| >
| > Check to see if Mailman has created the proper .files.  
| There should 
| > be quite a few for each list you have created.
| >
| >   
| > In Service,
| >  
| > Michael Kabot
| > President - SOAR
| >   Scouting Online
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| > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| > 585-388-0211
| >
| > www.soarol.com
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Qmail/Vpopmail

2007-05-01 Thread Simon Schuh 
My Qmail files are in /home/vpopmail/domains, but there are no files for 
Mailman.
I tried to create them manually, but probably did that wrong.
Where should they be?

Simon Schuh



Michael Kabot schrieb:
> Simon,
>
> The Qmail files can usually be found in /var/qmail/mailnames.  There should
> be a directory for each domain. Within these directories Qmail uses
> .qmail- filenames for configuration so they are easily missed.  Make
> sure to use 'ls -al' to see them.
>
> Check to see if Mailman has created the proper .files.  There should be
> quite a few for each list you have created.
>
>   
> In Service,
>  
> Michael Kabot
> President - SOAR
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>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Qmail/Vpopmail

2007-05-01 Thread Michael Kabot 

Simon,

The Qmail files can usually be found in /var/qmail/mailnames.  There should
be a directory for each domain. Within these directories Qmail uses
.qmail- filenames for configuration so they are easily missed.  Make
sure to use 'ls -al' to see them.

Check to see if Mailman has created the proper .files.  There should be
quite a few for each list you have created.

  
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| -Original Message-
| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
| [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
| On Behalf Of Simon Schuh
| Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 6:34 PM
| To: mailman-users@python.org
| Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Qmail/Vpopmail
| 
| 
| Hello,
| 
| I'm trying to install Mailman and have some problems.
| If I try to send an email to the list(configuration),
| qmail cannot deliver the mail and I get a "Sorry, no mailbox 
| here by that name." I looked in the logs and qmail actually 
| tries to find the local [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
| like I configured it in the virtualdomains. I think qmail 
| doesn't check the mailman home which is /usr/local/mailman. 
| And I don't really know how qmail could find it. I have the 
| line "lists.mydomain.tld:mailman" in virtualdomains, but how 
| should qmail know where to find the mailman home directory?
| 
| Hope the question is not to stupid and somebody can help me.
| 
| Thanks,
| Simon Schuh
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and qmail confuse

2006-10-05 Thread Mark Sapiro 
M. Onur ERGiN wrote:
>
>What can cause this confusion,

Qmail

>and what can be a possible solution?


You would probably be more likely to get a good answer to this from a
list or other support resource devoted to Qmail.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Qmail - Cannot connect via SMTP

2006-06-15 Thread Mark Sapiro 
Douglas G. Phillips wrote:

>Just a followup on this that I forgot to add: Messages sent to the list are 
>received by qmail and processed by mailman.  They appear in the list archives, 
>but they are not re-sent to the members of the mailing list.


That's consistent. The problem affects outgoing mail only.



>  The only error that I can find is in the mailman error logs (sample here):
>  Jun 15 19:51:55 2006 (13082) Cannot connect to SMTP server localhost on port 
> smtp


Mailman's OutgoingRunner is reporting that it called
SMTPDirect.process() to send the message and the SMTP connect called
in that module raised a socket.error exception.

This is not quite the situation described at
,
but the debugging techniques described there and in the referenced
list posts should help.


>  QMail is started via an /etc/init.d script that executes the qmail-start 
> binary.  I can telnet to the SMTP port fine from localhost, and it accepts 
> mail just fine.


Are you telnetting to 'localhost' by name? As the 'mailman' user?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Qmail - Cannot connect via SMTP

2006-06-15 Thread Douglas G. Phillips 
Just a followup on this that I forgot to add: Messages sent to the list are 
received by qmail and processed by mailman.  They appear in the list archives, 
but they are not re-sent to the members of the mailing list.

- Original Message - 
  From: Douglas G. Phillips 
  To: "Mailman Users ML" 
  Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 11:08 PM
  Subject: Mailman and Qmail - Cannot connect via SMTP


  I've run up against a strange problem working with a client's server.  
They're running QMail and Mailman on a RedHat 9 box, using the Plesk 7.0 
reloaded management panel.  After they ran the up2date command, as well as 
using the management panel to update the software on the box, the mailing lists 
stopped working.

  The only error that I can find is in the mailman error logs (sample here):
  Jun 15 19:51:55 2006 (13082) Cannot connect to SMTP server localhost on port 
smtp

  QMail is started via an /etc/init.d script that executes the qmail-start 
binary.  I can telnet to the SMTP port fine from localhost, and it accepts mail 
just fine.

  All of the places suggested in the documentation I've been able to find don't 
exist or aren't being used (as far as I can tell).

  Any suggestions?

  Thanks.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Qmail - Cannot connect via SMTP

2006-06-15 Thread Douglas G. Phillips 
- Original Message - 
  From: Douglas G. Phillips 
  To: "Mailman Users ML" 
  Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 11:08 PM
  Subject: Mailman and Qmail - Cannot connect via SMTP


  I've run up against a strange problem working with a client's server.  
They're running QMail and Mailman on a RedHat 9 box, using the Plesk 7.0 
reloaded management panel.  After they ran the up2date command, as well as 
using the management panel to update the software on the box, the mailing lists 
stopped working.

  The only error that I can find is in the mailman error logs (sample here):
  Jun 15 19:51:55 2006 (13082) Cannot connect to SMTP server localhost on port 
smtp

  QMail is started via an /etc/init.d script that executes the qmail-start 
binary.  I can telnet to the SMTP port fine from localhost, and it accepts mail 
just fine.

  All of the places suggested in the documentation I've been able to find don't 
exist or aren't being used (as far as I can tell).

  Any suggestions?

  Thanks.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman and qmail for production?

2004-12-16 Thread Brad Knowles 
At 2:54 PM -0700 2004-12-16, Christopher Hammond wrote:
 1) is qmail an acceptable MTA for a production environment?  if not ... any
 recommendations?
	It is not my choice, and I believe that the integration between 
qmail and Mailman may be lacking in some areas.  I know what the 
integration is like between Mailman and either postfix or sendmail, 
and both of those should definitely be able to handle the MTA load, 
if configured properly.  I've done millions of mail messages per day 
on properly configured machines.

 2) can mailman, running on a dedicated machine ( pIII with 512 Mb RAM ),
 handle 30-75k contacts?
	Properly configured, I don't see that this would be a problem. 
However, you should read 
.

	I can tell you that your disk subsystem, your OS & filesystem 
configuration, and your amount and configuration of memory are going 
to be critical factors in determining whether or not you will be able 
to make this work with this class of hardware.  You can do it if you 
know what you're doing, but it will take some work to put all the 
right pieces together in the right way.

 3) does mailmain provide a more detailed subscriber form whereas I could use
 it to capture the demographic data of our subscribers?  (ie., physical
 address, telephone number, etc )
	No.  Moreover, there is no place to store this information. 
You'd need to make some fairly significant modifications to Mailman 
to account for the added information you want.

 4) is mailman actually what I should be using for this?
	It sounds to me like what you really want is a Customer 
Relationship Manager system.  See 
.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman and qmail gid problem

2002-11-10 Thread Kjartan Mannes 
Saturday, November 9, 2002, 4:27:06 AM, Barry Smoke wrote:
> I just made the virtual domains primary group the same as mailman's, and
> it is working now...

> It would be nice to get around having to do that though, because of
> posting concerns/permissions...

> I guess, I could still keep them in the group that was created when the
> virtual domain was added as a user.

I just keep two installations of Mailman. One for the few lists
controlled by Qmail itself and one for the virtual hosts. It isn't
ideal, but doesn't cause any security issues.

It would be nice if Mailman could be configured with a list of gids.

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RE: [Mailman-Users] mailman and qmail gid problem

2002-11-08 Thread Barry Smoke 
I'm referring to the README.QMAIL file, which has the section on
setgid...

I know about mailman having to run as gid 102, which is what I hard
coded it to at install time...
I am an isp, which has a main domain of arhosting.com
I do virtual hosting, using apache, and qmail+vmailmgr, which I add
every virtual domin to the system as a user, which gives them a userid,
and gid...

I just made the virtual domains primary group the same as mailman's, and
it is working now...

It would be nice to get around having to do that though, because of
posting concerns/permissions...

I guess, I could still keep them in the group that was created when the
virtual domain was added as a user.



-Original Message-
From: Jon Carnes [mailto:jonc@;nc.rr.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 7:25 PM
To: Barry Smoke
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman and qmail gid problem

It looks like qmail (or whatever is calling the Mailman aliases) is
using the Group ID of 65848 (or perhaps it is undefined). Your best bet
is to change qmail's Group ID to 102.  

Failing that, if 65848 really is a Group ID in /etc/group then you could
re-install Mailman and set it to use the mail gid of 65848.

Mailman has a check on the wrapper program (which is run via the MTA:
qmail). The check only allows the Mailman user, root, or the MTA to run
it.  The check looks at the Group ID of application that is trying to
start it.  In your case when wrapper looks up the Group ID of the
application that is trying to start it, the system is giving it the
number: 65848.

Good Luck - Jon Carnes

On Fri, 2002-11-08 at 17:36, Barry Smoke wrote:
> As the README.QMAIL states, there is a problem with virtual domains,
and 
> lists, and the way people usually get around it is to use a 
> lists.whatever.com virtual domain, and point it directly to mailman,
> however, I have a virtual domain, using vmailmgr, which users will 
> recieve mail at, so my .qmail-default for that
domain(/home/domain.com)
> reads:
> |usr/bin/vdeliver
> 
> I want that to stay, and also have a list called "list" to work on 
> domain.com,
> so the mailing list address would be [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I put in a .qmail-list file in /home/domain.com, and I'm getting the
gid 
> by qmail...
> @40003dcc360a29b85604 delivery 4: deferral: 
>
Failure_to_exec_script._WANTED_gid_102,_GOT_gid_65848.__(Reconfigure_to_
take_65848?)/
> 
> now in the README.QMAIL, it states that if I want to have a user other

> than mailman to deliver to ~mailman,
> I can set the mailman directory to setgid, so I chmod 6775 ~mailman,
and 
> I'm still getting the same error...
> 
> I have to make this work,
> so any advice is appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Barry Smoke
> Owner arhosting.com
> 
> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman and qmail gid problem

2002-11-08 Thread Jon Carnes 
It looks like qmail (or whatever is calling the Mailman aliases) is
using the Group ID of 65848 (or perhaps it is undefined). Your best bet
is to change qmail's Group ID to 102.  

Failing that, if 65848 really is a Group ID in /etc/group then you could
re-install Mailman and set it to use the mail gid of 65848.

Mailman has a check on the wrapper program (which is run via the MTA:
qmail). The check only allows the Mailman user, root, or the MTA to run
it.  The check looks at the Group ID of application that is trying to
start it.  In your case when wrapper looks up the Group ID of the
application that is trying to start it, the system is giving it the
number: 65848.

Good Luck - Jon Carnes

On Fri, 2002-11-08 at 17:36, Barry Smoke wrote:
> As the README.QMAIL states, there is a problem with virtual domains, and 
> lists, and the way people usually get around it is to use a 
> lists.whatever.com virtual domain, and point it directly to mailman,
> however, I have a virtual domain, using vmailmgr, which users will 
> recieve mail at, so my .qmail-default for that domain(/home/domain.com)
> reads:
> |usr/bin/vdeliver
> 
> I want that to stay, and also have a list called "list" to work on 
> domain.com,
> so the mailing list address would be [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I put in a .qmail-list file in /home/domain.com, and I'm getting the gid 
> by qmail...
> @40003dcc360a29b85604 delivery 4: deferral: 
> Failure_to_exec_script._WANTED_gid_102,_GOT_gid_65848.__(Reconfigure_to_take_65848?)/
> 
> now in the README.QMAIL, it states that if I want to have a user other 
> than mailman to deliver to ~mailman,
> I can set the mailman directory to setgid, so I chmod 6775 ~mailman, and 
> I'm still getting the same error...
> 
> I have to make this work,
> so any advice is appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Barry Smoke
> Owner arhosting.com
> 
> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Qmail (wont deliver offsite)

2002-03-13 Thread Michael C. Brenner 

I fixed mine (qmail on FreeBSD) by allowing localhost to relay. I added the 
following to the top of /etc/hosts.allow

tcp-env: 127. 10.11.12.13 : setenv RELAYCLIENT

This command allows access for tcp-env (the tcp wrapper in inetd.conf for 
smtp) from 127.x.x.x subnet and from my local ip address 10.11.12.13. If I 
had multiple local servers, I might have made it 10.11.12 so any host on 
the 10.11.12.x subnet could relay locally. See the README.QMAIL in your 
install directory.
MB

At 04:43 PM 3/11/2002, Elizabeth Strumph wrote:
>Hello
>
>I've setup mailman with qmail on openBSD. I am able
>to receive mail on the host, and to send mail offsite.
>
>I can also subscribe to Mailman lists etc. if I do
>so from a user on the machine running mailman.
>
>When a user from another domain tries to subscribe,
>either through the web interface or through
>listname-request, nothing happens.
>
>Looking through /var/spool/mailman/logs/bounce when
>I tried to subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] (what is 'first' ?):
>
>
>Mar 11 16:50:39 2002 (14901) Test:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - first
>
>
>Nothing shows up in /var/log/maillog when this happns,
>though if the req came from localhost, I would see
>sensible logs there.
>
>Thanks much in advance,
>-Elizabeth
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Qmail (wont deliver offsite)

2002-03-11 Thread C. Bensend 


On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Elizabeth Strumph wrote:

> When a user from another domain tries to subscribe,
> either through the web interface or through
> listname-request, nothing happens.
>
> Looking through /var/spool/mailman/logs/bounce when
> I tried to subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] (what is 'first' ?):
>
>
> Mar 11 16:50:39 2002 (14901) Test:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - first
>
> Nothing shows up in /var/log/maillog when this happns,
> though if the req came from localhost, I would see
> sensible logs there.

Hello Elizabeth,

I had much the same problem recently...  You have
to make sure QMail will relay from localhost, which /it
won't do by default/.  See the list archives...  They
should contain your answer.  If not, let me know and I'll
help you out.

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