[MlMt] Setting up SS and MM: mark messages as Not Junk?

2015-10-12 Thread Sparky Doosan
I'm reading http://c-command.com/spamsieve/help/setting-up-mailmate and 
got to the statement:


The Mark messages as Not Junk if score is below setting does not affect 
SpamSieve or its filtering.


Rather, if SpamSieve thinks a message is less spammy than the score that 
you enter, MailMate will tell the mail server that it’s not junk...


Again I apologize for trying to come up to speed quickly, I'm sure this 
is well-documented somewhere but still I ask... what does "MailMate will 
tell the mail server that it's not junk" mean?


I suppose a better question would be, is there MM equivalent to 
http://c-command.com/spamsieve/help/using-spamsieve ? I mean I do see 
the excellent Introduction in Help but the statement in question seems 
to suggest I haven't set up my server IMAP folders correctly yet. My 
other recent question (and quick answer, thanks again) points this way, 
I needed to get my Sent folder properly configured.


Thanks!
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[MlMt] Connection log files on the Desktop

2015-10-12 Thread Eric A. Meyer

Hello,

Recently, I've started seeing Mailmate connection log files dropped onto 
my Desktop, apparently one per mailbox that had a connection problem.  
Here's one:


Connection log (2015-10-11 19:58:41 +):
19:58:33 Trying to disconnect nicely (8)...
19:58:33 C: E11 LOGOUT
19:58:41 Error: Time limit (8s) reached while trying to read data 
(imap.gmail.com)

19:58:41 S:
19:58:41 Clearing connection to imap.gmail.com

Any suggestions as to why they're on my desktop, and how to relocate 
them?  I'm using 10.8.5.


(Apologies if this has been addressed already, but my search of the list 
archives and Lighthouse didn't turn up anything that seemed to fit, so I 
thought I'd check here first.  I'm happy to file a bug if one is called 
for.)



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Re: [MlMt] Connection log files on the Desktop

2015-10-12 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 12 Oct 2015, at 21:29, Eric A. Meyer wrote:

Recently, I've started seeing Mailmate connection log files dropped 
onto my Desktop, apparently one per mailbox that had a connection 
problem.


[...]

Any suggestions as to why they're on my desktop, and how to relocate 
them? [...]


It's a bug in the public release. At some point I was playing with an 
idea of automatically generating a log file when certain types of issues 
were encountered (typically server bugs). I accidentally left this code 
enabled and I didn't notice because my own server is apparently too 
stable to trigger these log files. (Ironically, the content of these log 
files isn't useful in most cases.)


The best you can do is to fetch the latest test release: Hold down ⌥ 
when clicking “Check Now” in the Software Update preferences pane. 
I'll probably have to make a new public release, but I'm not sure when 
that's going to happen (it's a school holiday this week in Denmark).


Sorry about the inconvenience of this bug.

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Re: [MlMt] Setting up SS and MM: mark messages as Not Junk?

2015-10-12 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 12 Oct 2015, at 15:02, Sparky Doosan wrote:

Again I apologize for trying to come up to speed quickly, I'm sure 
this is well-documented somewhere but still I ask... what does 
"MailMate will tell the mail server that it's not junk" mean?


An IMAP server with a dedicated mailbox for junk emails might interpret 
moving a message out of this mailbox as a sign that the message wasn't 
junk. There is not dedicated message an email client can send to the 
IMAP server to tell it that something is or is not junk. It can only be 
done implicitly.


Another possibility (I don't know if this happens in practice) is that 
the server keeps an eye on the $Junk/$NotJunk IMAP keywords which are 
kind of standard. MailMate applies/removes these keywords whenever a 
message is moved in/out of the Junk folder.


I suppose a better question would be, is there MM equivalent to 
http://c-command.com/spamsieve/help/using-spamsieve ?


No, that is the best I can offer you for now. In my opinion it's more 
readable at http://manual.mailmate-app.com, because I don't really like 
the Apple Help system.


I mean I do see the excellent Introduction in Help but the statement 
in question seems to suggest I haven't set up my server IMAP folders 
correctly yet. My other recent question (and quick answer, thanks 
again) points this way, I needed to get my Sent folder properly 
configured.


The same may be true for the junk folder of each of your accounts. 
Especially if the server “watches” what goes in/out of some 
dedicated Junk folder.


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