Re: [MlMt] mailmate Digest, Vol 66, Issue 11

2016-09-04 Thread Esteban Umerez Argaia
Congratulations to both you and your wife, Benny!

Best wishes,

Esteban
Thankful MailMate user and proud patron

On 3 Sep 2016, at 18:00, mailmate-requ...@lists.freron.com wrote:

> My crowd funders should be happy to know that my wife has now completed
> her masters degree (“cand.scient.san.” is the official title) and
> this is celebrated **today** with a big party (which is why I won't be
> able to work on the Gmail issue today). Yet another thank you to you all
> from both me and my family.
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Re: [MlMt] Status: Gmail authentication issues

2016-09-04 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 3 Sep 2016, at 22:27, Richard Rettke wrote:

Just wanted to report than I just had the same google problem that I 
had last night (I think it was last nigh?) occur again, except it 
absolutely DID NOT involve Mailmate. It happened on a gmail address 
which is used exclusively by my iPhone, and does not appear in any 
other device. Seems to me to exonerate Mailmate.


I'm still not convinced. MailMate plays some role in this, but I haven't 
figured out exactly how yet. Hopefully someone can get me some logs at 
some point.


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Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-04 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 3 Sep 2016, at 12:24, Gary Hull wrote:

Customers may be in for a surprise if the proprietor kicks the bucket. 
MailMate itself has a bus factor = 1, but hey, we love it. Runbox and 
Fastmail appear to have a bus factor = 3 or so. Gmail has a bus factor 
= 100,000, which is also its aggravation factor.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor


I didn't know this expression, but I'm also not sure I like to think 
about the likelihood of being hit by a bus ;-)


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Re: [MlMt] Change default "from" email address behaviour

2016-09-04 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 2 Sep 2016, at 10:47, vinc...@acheson.uk.com wrote:

For my use case, Mailmate’s default behaviour of deciding the sender 
email account based on the addressee email account is causing repeated 
problems: Mailmate’s choice is not always what I expect, and I 
don’t realise the problem until after sending. Is there a 
configuration options which would force me to choose either before I 
start composing, or force me to choose at the point of sending?


I've actually very recently added an experimental hidden preference 
which is completely untested:


	defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmNeverDeriveSenderBasedOnRecipient 
-bool YES


The next time MailMate is updated then you can let me know if it 
actually works :)


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Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-04 Thread Paul Sture

On 4 Sep 2016, at 11:55, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 3 Sep 2016, at 12:24, Gary Hull wrote:

Customers may be in for a surprise if the proprietor kicks the 
bucket. MailMate itself has a bus factor = 1, but hey, we love it. 
Runbox and Fastmail appear to have a bus factor = 3 or so. Gmail has 
a bus factor = 100,000, which is also its aggravation factor.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor


I didn't know this expression, but I'm also not sure I like to think 
about the likelihood of being hit by a bus ;-)


The basic question "What happens if  gets hit by a 
bus" was around in the UK at least as far back as the 1970s, but the 
idea of a numeric factor is new to me.


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Re: [MlMt] New version broke fonts?

2016-09-04 Thread Bill Cole

On 1 Sep 2016, at 23:27, David Shepherdson wrote:

If you use 'Customize Toolbar…' and replace those combined buttons 
with the individual ones -- for example, separate 'Archive', 'Move to 
Junk' and 'Delete' buttons rather than the combined 'Actions' -- then 
you get the individual text labels underneath each icon button 
(provided you have set the toolbar to 'Icon and Text' mode).


Then you get the mysterious little icon with unreadably small text 
underneath. Worst of both worlds...


(Yes, I know: the ageist font choices are Apple's, not Benny's.)
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Re: [MlMt] New version broke fonts?

2016-09-04 Thread Paul Sture

On 4 Sep 2016, at 19:54, Bill Cole wrote:


On 1 Sep 2016, at 23:27, David Shepherdson wrote:

If you use 'Customize Toolbar…' and replace those combined buttons 
with the individual ones -- for example, separate 'Archive', 'Move to 
Junk' and 'Delete' buttons rather than the combined 'Actions' -- then 
you get the individual text labels underneath each icon button 
(provided you have set the toolbar to 'Icon and Text' mode).


Then you get the mysterious little icon with unreadably small text 
underneath. Worst of both worlds...


(Yes, I know: the ageist font choices are Apple's, not Benny's.)


The worst culprit in my experience is App Store.  I often _do_ want to 
read the details of updates but the light grey text defeats my best 
endeavours if I am tired.  With the lengthier descriptions I sometimes 
take a screenshot and if I'm going to put bits into an email or 
newsgroup post I'll OCR that.

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Re: [MlMt] Change default "from" email address behaviour

2016-09-04 Thread vinc...@acheson.uk.com
@Sherif - Thanks for the suggestion - that has been my latest attempt to 
overcome whatever the (dumb) perception / UI /lack of attention to 
detail issue I have….. much helped by using the following excellent 
hidden preference


defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmComposerInitialFocus -string 
"alwaysTextView"


@Benny - looks promising! It’s a shame that your excellent design idea 
doesn’t work for every user! I will try to remember to report 
back…..


Vincent


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