[MlMt] Automating Mailmate - best way?

2017-01-10 Thread Jan Erik Moström

Hi,

If I want to automate certain aspects of my mail handling what is the 
best way to go about this. Classes of things I would like to do are


+ Create a new emails
+ Call on a script with references to one or more selected emails
(+ Trigger a script based an a filter)

I looked at the applescript dictionary and it seem to be pretty basic 
(too basic to be useful??). I also looked at some of the bundles and it 
looks like any kind of language would work here.


So, is there some language that is a "better choice" for some reason 
when interacting with Mailmate? Personally, it doesn't matter much but I 
would prefer not to use Cobol, Fortran or APL :D


= jem
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Re: [MlMt] opening multiple mails

2017-01-10 Thread Robert Brenstein

A followup:

1: It is not possible to get this behaviour with the mouse - annoying 
since it forces me to move my hand off the mouse just for this (yes, I 
am aware that most MM users are keyboard centric). My wish: it would be 
great if the right-click popup menu included the option to open messages 
individually.


2: Msg windows are sorted with newest message on top — of course, when 
reading a thread, I would prefer to read oldest first. Benny says that 
he changed this behavior in the forthcoming release.


3: Msg windows open snag at the bottom of the screen. I seem to recall a 
recent discussion about such problematic window positioning. I 
discovered that the problematic positioning occurs when no message 
window is open. I haven’t found a way to set the default position. 
However, if I leave one msg window open (behind the main window is 
fine), the further message windows open relative to that window 
(actually, the latest open message window). My wish: MM could allow 
setting the default position and size for opening a new message window 
if no other window is open (the current behavior is fine otherwise).


Robert


On 4 Aug 2016, at 18:32, John D. Muccigrosso wrote:


On 4 Aug 2016, at 12:02, Robert Brenstein wrote:

On 04.08.2016 at 11:10 Uhr -0400 John D. Muccigrosso apparently 
wrote:




And, just this moment, I did some experimenting:

Try shift-cmd-O instead of just cmd-O and the messages will open in 
different windows.


Haven't found a way to make return open them in different windows 
though.


John


Yes, that is great! I checked only the combination on the message 
menu. Strange that the menu item remains the same with and without 
the shift key, but who cares.


Yes, you’re right, though at least the shift shows up, indicating 
that something different will happen.


Is they a way to have the oldest messages show on top? MM seems to 
insist that newer messages are on top, but 95% of the time, I want to 
read them in the order they went sent.


Ah, you’re right. Hadn’t noticed that.

John
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[MlMt] Eudora's mail concatenation in MailMate

2017-01-10 Thread Robert Brenstein
I just discovered that MailMate has a function equivalent to the mail 
concatenation feature of Eudora. I am in 7th heaven, and I thought to 
share this discovery! I saw the setting for this in the preferences 
quite a while ago but only now clicked what it really means. For those 
wondering what I am talking about:


If I double-click a message in MailMate, it opens that message in a new 
window. Nothing special here.


If I double-click a message holding the shift key, MailMate sets a 
filter that shows all messages with the same subject or whatever column 
I was clicking. This is pretty much the same what option-click did in 
Eudora. MM refers to this functionality as searching for related 
messages.


Tip: select the message before you double-click it, so MM does not use 
the first click to select multiple messages.


Robert
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Re: [MlMt] Share MailMate between user accounts – app damaged for all but one user

2017-01-10 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 6 Jan 2017, at 14:21, Anders Thoresson wrote:

I’m setting up a new MacBook Air for my family. I’ve installed 
MailMate in the shared application folder and set it up for the first 
family member.


But when I try to do it for the second person, logging into her 
account, MacOS’ Finder claims that MailMate is damaged and needs to 
be downloaded once again. If I switch back to the account where I 
first set up MailMate, it still works.


Two questions, obviously:

- What’s going on?


MailMate has an (old) issue where the Software Update mechanism doesn't 
work well with multiple accounts. I'm guessing this is what happened 
here.



- How do I solve the problem?


I believe this can do it (until you update again):

chmod -R go+rX /Applications/MailMate.app

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Re: [MlMt] smart mailbox flagged

2017-01-10 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 6 Jan 2017, at 13:58, Robert Brenstein wrote:

I’d like the smart mailbox “flagged” to show a submailbox for 
each flag. Ideally, I’d like to see simply the flag icon as the 
submailbox name.


I got as far as

sub mailbox for each unique value of: flags
mailbox name format: ${#flags.flag.#name}


For historic reasons, the name `#flags` is misleading. It's actually all 
IMAP keywords which includes both the keywords used for tags and other 
other standard or non-standard keywords.


This shows the correct submailboxes but the shown names include all 
tags and flags not just the mailflags. The odd part is that the list 
of tags in the names does not always include $MailFlagBitX and 
sometimes includes more than one.


You are seeing a mailbox for every IMAP keywords which exists for any 
message which also has the `\Flagged` keyword.



Note that the default name format is suggested as: ${#flags}
This produces essentially the same submailbox names, just the order of 
listed tags is different.


Yes, you'll see all existing combinations of keywords.

But to answer your question: There is currently no way to do what you 
request. Colored flags are a combination of IMAP keywords (this 
originates from Apple Mail). The best workaround is probably to manually 
create a smart mailbox for each combination of the mail bit flags. 
That'll also allow you to control the exact naming of the mailboxes. 
(Low-level I think it would also be possible to specify the flag images 
for the mailbox icons.)


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Re: [MlMt] Strange Postbox showing up...

2017-01-10 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 7 Jan 2017, at 14:26, Robert M. Münch wrote:


On 6 Jan 2017, at 14:27, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

See the Submailboxes pane in the mailbox editor of these mailboxes 
(“Mailboxes ▸ Edit Smart Mailbox”).


Ok, that worked. Wondering how it was enabled as I think I didn't done 
it.


It's the default for these mailboxes.


[ [Gmail] mailbox ]


It's not a problem, but you might want to take the mailbox explicitly 
offline in order to stop MailMate from trying to create the mailbox.


Can this "dragged action" somehow be "deleted" so MM doesn't try it 
over and over again? Or is this "failed" state coming from a one-time 
action in the past? If, any way to get rid of this state?


You can certainly move any messages in the mailbox. There shouldn't be 
any messages in this mailbox in any case since they cannot synchronize 
with the server. In order to remove the “failed” state then I 
**think** it would work to delete it, but I haven't tested this. It 
sounds strange, but in IMAP there is a difference between hierarchy-only 
mailbox and hierarchy-mailbox which can contain messages. Essentially 
you can create an IMAP mailbox named `A/B/C` and then `A` and `A/B` 
still don't really need to exist. Right now, MailMate tries to put 
`[Gmail]` into existence and this fails (because the server does not 
allow it).


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Re: [MlMt] wunderlist

2017-01-10 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 7 Jan 2017, at 17:43, aisrael wrote:


Has anyone created a bundle for the Wunderlist task manager?


It has been requested before, but I don't think anyone ever created a 
bundle. I know that I didn't.


I can assist in creating a bundle if you have some scripting experience. 
You can contact me off list (Help ▸ Send Feedback).


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Re: [MlMt] opening multiple mails

2017-01-10 Thread Robert Brenstein
Re 3: It seems that version 5320 might have fixed this. MM now remembers 
the last window position as it was designed to do.


Robert

On 10 Jan 2017, at 17:19, Robert Brenstein wrote:


A followup:

1: It is not possible to get this behaviour with the mouse - annoying 
since it forces me to move my hand off the mouse just for this (yes, I 
am aware that most MM users are keyboard centric). My wish: it would 
be great if the right-click popup menu included the option to open 
messages individually.


2: Msg windows are sorted with newest message on top — of course, 
when reading a thread, I would prefer to read oldest first. Benny says 
that he changed this behavior in the forthcoming release.


3: Msg windows open snag at the bottom of the screen. I seem to recall 
a recent discussion about such problematic window positioning. I 
discovered that the problematic positioning occurs when no message 
window is open. I haven’t found a way to set the default position. 
However, if I leave one msg window open (behind the main window is 
fine), the further message windows open relative to that window 
(actually, the latest open message window). My wish: MM could allow 
setting the default position and size for opening a new message window 
if no other window is open (the current behavior is fine otherwise).


Robert



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Re: [MlMt] Eudora's mail concatenation in MailMate

2017-01-10 Thread Dave C
Thank you for pointing out this feature Robert. I used Eudora for years 
but I don’t remember being aware of this feature.


Cheers,
Dave

-=-=-=-

I just discovered that MailMate has a function equivalent to the mail 
concatenation feature of Eudora. I am in 7th heaven, and I thought to 
share this discovery! I saw the setting for this in the preferences 
quite a while ago but only now clicked what it really means. For those 
wondering what I am talking about:


If I double-click a message in MailMate, it opens that message in a 
new window. Nothing special here.


If I double-click a message holding the shift key, MailMate sets a 
filter that shows all messages with the same subject or whatever 
column I was clicking. This is pretty much the same what option-click 
did in Eudora. MM refers to this functionality as searching for 
related messages.


Tip: select the message before you double-click it, so MM does not use 
the first click to select multiple messages.


Robert
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Re: [MlMt] Eudora's mail concatenation in MailMate

2017-01-10 Thread Sherif Soliman


On 10 Jan 2017, at 11:30, Robert Brenstein wrote:

I just discovered that MailMate has a function equivalent to the mail 
concatenation feature of Eudora. I am in 7th heaven, and I thought to 
share this discovery! I saw the setting for this in the preferences 
quite a while ago but only now clicked what it really means. For those 
wondering what I am talking about:


If I double-click a message in MailMate, it opens that message in a 
new window. Nothing special here.


If I double-click a message holding the shift key, MailMate sets a 
filter that shows all messages with the same subject or whatever 
column I was clicking. This is pretty much the same what option-click 
did in Eudora. MM refers to this functionality as searching for 
related messages.


Tip: select the message before you double-click it, so MM does not use 
the first click to select multiple messages.




This is _awesome_. I think I may have understood, a long time ago, that 
part of this functionality existed, but I never understood it to do what 
you just explained it did.


MailMate continues to be one of the most delightful software I use.

Thanks for sharing.

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[MlMt] Date column

2017-01-10 Thread Dave C
User can display date as absolute or relative date/time. Both these are 
apparently the time stamp of the sender’s server and time zone.


Can I specify the date & time sent, shown in my time zone?

Thanks,
Dave
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Re: [MlMt] Eudora's mail concatenation in MailMate

2017-01-10 Thread Verdon Vaillancourt
That’s funny… mine is configured the other way around… has been so 
long I don’t know if I did that, or if it used to be default. I did 
learn a couple tricks from this conversation though…


a) I didn’t know that shift double-click would open the msg in a new 
window (for me)

b) I usually just hit as return to open the selected msg in a new window
c) I didn’t realize that the column I double-clicked on determined the 
filter for the search


Agreed… fantastic App!!


On 10 Jan 2017, at 18:10, Sherif Soliman wrote:


On 10 Jan 2017, at 11:30, Robert Brenstein wrote:

I just discovered that MailMate has a function equivalent to the mail 
concatenation feature of Eudora. I am in 7th heaven, and I thought to 
share this discovery! I saw the setting for this in the preferences 
quite a while ago but only now clicked what it really means. For 
those wondering what I am talking about:


If I double-click a message in MailMate, it opens that message in a 
new window. Nothing special here.


If I double-click a message holding the shift key, MailMate sets a 
filter that shows all messages with the same subject or whatever 
column I was clicking. This is pretty much the same what option-click 
did in Eudora. MM refers to this functionality as searching for 
related messages.


Tip: select the message before you double-click it, so MM does not 
use the first click to select multiple messages.




This is _awesome_. I think I may have understood, a long time ago, 
that part of this functionality existed, but I never understood it to 
do what you just explained it did.


MailMate continues to be one of the most delightful software I use.

Thanks for sharing.

Sherif




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Re: [MlMt] Eudora's mail concatenation in MailMate

2017-01-10 Thread Fredrik Jonsson

Verdon Vaillancourt 2017-01-11 1:41 wrote:

That’s funny… mine is configured the other way around… has been 
so long I don’t know if I did that, or if it used to be default.


It's a setting, see MailMate -> Preferences -> Viewer -> Double click

Eudora was excellent for it's time but MailMate is definitely the best 
mail client I have used.


Fredrik
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