Re: [MlMt] Office365 not working anymore
Hello, On 20 Nov 2023, at 18:49, Alex Abdo wrote: Angelo, thank you so much for the suggestion. I gave that a try but still ended up with the same issue. Here is the log from the activity viewer: It’s been quite a while since I used a Outlook/Office365 account with MailMate, but besides removing the account and the keys, I *seem* to remember that I also had to remove the ‘connected’ application from the Outlook/Office365 settings for MailMate. But as you’ve not even succeeded in connecting once since the move from the self-hosted Exchange to Office365, I doubt it’s there. I think Raza is correct in assuming that they’ve just blocked access except certain mail clients. I’m guessing they won’t let you create an ‘app password’ in the Office365 settings? --- With regards, Angelo Machils___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Office365 not working anymore
Hello, On 17 Nov 2023, at 18:55, Alex Abdo wrote: I’m writing to see if anyone has advice for how to troubleshoot Mailmate’s compatibility with Office365. I had this happen in the past several times. Office365 (cloud) would work fine and then stop working suddenly. The only thing I found that would work was to completely remove the account in MailMate. Also, I had to remove the key(s) in the Apple Keychain application. Then I set it up again and it kept working (for a while). --- With regards, Angelo Machils___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] New Test Build (5929)
Hello, On 8 Dec 2022, at 19:22, Dan Pritts wrote: > Is there an easy method to grab the latest beta? I'm on 5913, As Michael says > 5918 is a beta and newer than what I'm running. Option-click allows me to go > to 5930. In the settings, under ‘Software Update’, you can set MM to ‘Watch for:’ Beta releases. --- With regards, Angelo Machils ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Screen flickering in dark mode
Hello, On 3 Mar 2022, at 16:40, Jon wrote: > On occasion, I have been seeing the flickering due to the renderer flipping > rapidly between different text word wrap. This is as if it cannot decide > exactly where to word wrap the message. This only happens in side-by-side > layouts. In those layouts I have the rendered text on the right. > > Changing the width of the window so the word wrap settles seems to make it > stop. Is this the behavior your are seeing? > On Thu, 03 Mar 2022 07:56:13 +0200 Angelo Machils via mailmate > wrote: >> Is it just me or is the screen flickering in dark mode, worse again with the >> latest build (5875)? No, in my case (and others have reported this as well in the past), that when viewing e-mails in text & dark mode, there is a flickering when switching between e-mails. For some (test) releases it was much better, but I have the idea that with the last release, it’s as bad as it was before. --- With regards, Angelo Machils ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Screen flickering in dark mode
Hello, Is it just me or is the screen flickering in dark mode, worse again with the latest build (5875)? --- With regards, Angelo Machils ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Export and save
Hello, You could copy/move them to another (IMAP) server or look at archiving solutions like EagleFiler or DEVONthink. --- Regards, Angelo On 1 Jun 2020, at 17:52, aisrael wrote: I know this has been treated repeatedly, but I can’t seem to find the relevant information : if my emails are deleted from the server (when I retire for example), how can I save all my mailboxes/emails locally (or on a server) in a searchable form, that would include the attachments? I seem to remember there were commercial apps that can do that, but I don’t find the right info. Alain ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Problem getting custom shortcuts to work, I'm missing something
Hello,
I think you should remove the first and last curly bracket.
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Regards,
Angelo
On 29 Apr 2020, at 10:26, Jan Erik Moström wrote:
I have this setup
{
"m" = {
"a" = ("toggleTag:", "Aktuellt" );
"k" = ("toggleTag:", "Kanske");
}
}
in the file
/Users/jem/Library/Application
Support/MailMate/Resources/KeyBindings/jem.plist
I've also enabled "Custom Key Bindings" and entered "jem" in the
field. The keywords are defined in the preferences with the IMAP
Keyword spelled as above.
I've restarted Mailmate but typing "ma" when having a email selected
doesn't do anything ... so I've made some kind of error. Can anyone
see what?
= jem
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Re: [MlMt] Weird issue when replying to a message that was sent to multiple people
Hello, Yes, that setting was on. I’ve turned it off and will see what happens. Thank you! --- Regards, Angelo On 22 Apr 2020, at 17:14, Sam Hathaway wrote: Angelo, By any chance, do you have an address pattern set up in IMAP Account Settings that matches the address of the sender of the message you’re replying to? That would probably cause the behavior you’re seeing. -sam On 22 Apr 2020, at 6:41, Angelo Machils via mailmate wrote: Hello, I’ve noticed that when I’m replying to an email that was sent to multiple people, my sender address has become that one of the sender of the mail I’m replying to and the ‘to’ address is not the sender, but the ‘to’ address from the original mail. The sender is _not_ in the cc list either….. So in fact I’m not replying to the sender, but to the original recipient and my address has become that of the original sender. I’m on version 1.13.1 (5684), but I have seen this happen in other versions as well. --- Regards, Angelo ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Weird issue when replying to a message that was sent to multiple people
Hello, I’ve noticed that when I’m replying to an email that was sent to multiple people, my sender address has become that one of the sender of the mail I’m replying to and the ‘to’ address is not the sender, but the ‘to’ address from the original mail. The sender is _not_ in the cc list either….. So in fact I’m not replying to the sender, but to the original recipient and my address has become that of the original sender. I’m on version 1.13.1 (5684), but I have seen this happen in other versions as well. --- Regards, Angelo ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Full-Screen mode when Composing Email (either new or reply)
Hello, If you want to do this with the keyboard, you could try Keyboard Maestro. I’m sure there are other applications as well with this functionality. With regards, Angelo Machils On 5 Feb 2020, at 5:31, TJ Luoma wrote: Well, shuck my corn. I've never used full-screen and split screen in macOS before, and totally forgot about the latter. Wish there was a way to do it with just the keyboard… it's awkward for me to do it with the touchpad… but it's better than nothing. (There's a "Tile Window to Left Side of Screen" or Right Side which is not for full-screen/split screen, but they _could_ do something similar. Maybe someday.) Thanks Bill and Guillaume! Tj On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:40 PM Bill Cole wrote: OR, if you are already in full-screen (so the reply opens as a new tab,) you can drag the tab to the top of the display and drop it on the MailMate screen, which will split. On 4 Feb 2020, at 21:14, Guillaume Barrette wrote: Dear Tj, Actually, macOS has a split view on full screen (if you are on El Capitan or above). To do what you want, I would do: 1. Open the message that you want to reply in a new window: File > Open Message [CMD+O] 2. Reply to this message: Message > Reply… (or Forward, Redirect…) 3. Now, using your cursor, click on the green circle without releasing (hold click) for about a second. Then you will see a blue rectangle appearing behind that divides the screen in 2. Move your window to the side of the screen that you want it to appear. This would push your window in full screen but taking half of the screen space. 4. Then, on the other side, you will see multiple windows. Select the window that corresponds to your open message. This will push it in full screen to this side, so you will have both side by side. You can see [here](https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT204948) for an overview of the feature from Apple. I'm on Mojave, I think on Catalina a little popup will appear instead of the blue rectangle to place the window, but they do basically the same thing. Hope this help! Best, -- Guillaume On 4 Feb 2020, at 19:13, TJ Luoma wrote: I have been using full-screen mode more lately on my MacBook Air, which led me to wonder if it is possible do something in Mailmate which I would very much like, but I'm not sure if it can be done (in any practical sense of the word). When I am replying to an email, I like to have the compose window on the right half of the screen, and the original message on the left half of the screen. That way I can easily refer to things as needed. Of course in full-screen mode, I get the compose window in full-screen, and I'm not sure there's any practical way around that. As far as I know, macOS does not have the same kind of "split screen" that iPads have. But I thought I'd mention it, just in case there _is_ a way to do that which I had not discovered. Thanks! Tj ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not For Hire (currently) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] New release
H, seems to be divided, because I actually really like the new ‘look’ :) With regards, Angelo Machils On 22 Jan 2020, at 0:01, Shoshanna Green wrote: I too dislike the new images (too large, as well as too gray), and am glad of the option to disable that part of the update! On 16 Jan 2020, at 16:54, Sherif Soliman wrote: I really like the new images :) But if you don't, the setting to disable them is mentioned in the part you quoted. Just quit MailMate, run `defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmMailboxImagesEnabled -bool NO` and you'll get the old images back. S On Thu, Jan 16, 2020, at 10:29 AM, Charlie Clark wrote: Hi everyone, it looks like Benny has been busy this week with a slew of new pre-releases. In r5676 from 2020-01-20 this caught my eye: Changed: New mailbox images now enabled by default (can be disabled using MmMailboxImagesEnabled). Are the new mailbox images the horrible grey things? It feels like my interface has gone colour blind! As this is a pre-release, I assume it's a work-in-progress and that "normal service will soon be resumed". Charlie -- Charlie Clark Kronenstr. 27a Düsseldorf D- 40217 Tel: +49-211-938-5360 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate Shoshanna Green shoshan...@gmail.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate slowness?!
Hello, On 14 Oct 2019, at 16:54, Angelo Machils wrote: I just got a secondhand MB Air (2015) and of course installed MailMate. I have had a (very) similar machine before, but I can’t really remember if MailMate was so slow on that as well. I have a very similar setup except mine's an early 2013 MBP, and I have also noticed some slowness ever since I upgraded from El Capitan to Mojave. The first time I launched MailMate after the OS upgrade, I saw spinning beachballs at startup and the first few times I opened smart mailboxes, but since then it's settled into being poky but not beachbally. I assumed it was because I'm storing just over 283,200 messages in total, but based on this thread, maybe there's more to it than that. I see the most slowness in rendering the message view as I navigate from message to message in my main smartbox, and in opening the reply window for any message with more than a couple of layers of nested quotes (people at work just will not give up the top-reply format). My email number is nowhere near such an amount (about 2000 in total across 3 different G Suite/Gmail accounts). I have set everything now to ‘plain text’, so no MD preview and the reply just plain text, but alas, no change. Even without the preview, I type faster than I’m seeing the characters appear. It’s also not like the message I’m replying to is so large. It’s not like it’s unworkable, but it’s also far from pleasant :) Updating to the latest beta release (5656) from the latest stable (5655 I think) also doesn’t change anything. It seems to be linked to HTML/MD support. I found a few more settings, disabling all HTML/MD/preview support and then everything I noticed as lagging/slow is now ‘snappy’. Not ideal, but at least more useable. Let’s hope this gets fixed soon :) Regards, Angelo Machils ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate slowness?!
Hello, On 14 Oct 2019, at 17:29, Robert Brenstein wrote: Have you tried going back to previous public release? I think 5655 (1.13) is/was the latest stable/public release and I installed that first and noticed the lagginess/slowness. This was on Mojave. Then I upgraded to Catalina, still the same issue. Complete fresh install of Catalina and still the same. Only as a (final) test, I tried the latest beta release. So I can’t really see what going back would accomplish. Or do you mean the version before 5655 (1.13)? That would be 1.12.5 and according to the site, that one is not supported. Regards, Angelo Machils ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate slowness?!
Hello On 14 Oct 2019, at 16:40, Eric A. Meyer wrote: On 12 Oct 2019, at 10:57, Fredrik Jonsson wrote: Angelo Machils via mailmate 2019-10-12 8:20 wrote: I just got a secondhand MB Air (2015) and of course installed MailMate. I have had a (very) similar machine before, but I can’t really remember if MailMate was so slow on that as well. I have a very similar setup except mine's an early 2013 MBP, and I have also noticed some slowness ever since I upgraded from El Capitan to Mojave. The first time I launched MailMate after the OS upgrade, I saw spinning beachballs at startup and the first few times I opened smart mailboxes, but since then it's settled into being poky but not beachbally. I assumed it was because I'm storing just over 283,200 messages in total, but based on this thread, maybe there's more to it than that. I see the most slowness in rendering the message view as I navigate from message to message in my main smartbox, and in opening the reply window for any message with more than a couple of layers of nested quotes (people at work just will not give up the top-reply format). My email number is nowhere near such an amount (about 2000 in total across 3 different G Suite/Gmail accounts). I have set everything now to ‘plain text’, so no MD preview and the reply just plain text, but alas, no change. Even without the preview, I type faster than I’m seeing the characters appear. It’s also not like the message I’m replying to is so large. It’s not like it’s unworkable, but it’s also far from pleasant :) Updating to the latest beta release (5656) from the latest stable (5655 I think) also doesn’t change anything. Regards, Angelo Machils ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] MailMate slowness?!
Hello, After a while of not using a Mac, I just got a secondhand MB Air (2015) and of course installed MailMate. I have had a (very) similar machine before, but I can’t really remember if MailMate was so slow on that as well. For example, if I click the reply button or type COM-R, it takes about 3-4 seconds for the window to show, sometimes I even see the spinning ball. 3-4 Seconds don’t seem that long but with the stock Mail application, the window appears instantly. Also, when typing with MD preview, I actually type faster than the characters appear on the screen, also in the text window. Something I haven’t seen since the days of a serial terminal :) None of my other applications seems so slow/sluggish. I understand my system is far from being a powerhouse, but I never considered MM to be a ‘heavy’ application. Regards, Angelo ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Tags/Gmail label per account
Hello, I have several Gmail/GSuite accounts defined in MM and some labels (ToDo, Waiting, etc.) are present in multiple accounts. I would like to create tags that are linked to these labels, but _per_ account. So a tag, let’s say ‘todo a’ that links to the todo label in account a and another tag ‘todo b’ that is linked to the todo label in account b. Is this possible and if so, how? Regards, Angelo Machils___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] font issue after upgrade to Mojave
Hello, Thank you, that seems to fix the font issue in the folder list. But in the email list the text seems to be a bit too low positioned now. Regards, Angelo Machils On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 4:49 PM, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > On 1 Oct 2018, at 3:05, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: > > On 30 Sep 2018, at 8:52, Angelo Machils wrote: >> >> Perhaps this has been mentioned on the list before, but I just upgraded >>> my system to Mojave this morning and now I’ve noticed that the name of the >>> folder has shifted upwards. A screenshot can be found at: >>> https://snag.gy/mlyq9S.jpg >>> >>> I've seen the same thing. >> > > See my earlier reply on the mailing list about r5530: > https://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/MailMate_r5530.tbz > > I wasn't really ready for Apple releasing Mojave :-) It works, but I > continue to work on fixing various (mostly) visual issues. > > -- > Benny > https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/ > > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Count offset?
Hello, I think this is because the text has gone up higher than pre-Mojave. Regards, Angelo Machils On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 6:03 AM, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: > Is it my imagination, or are the Unseen counters a bit lower? This is 2.0 > build 6121 on Mojave. I haven't done anything to configure the look of this. > > > --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb > > > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > > ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] font issue after upgrade to Mojave
Hello, Perhaps this has been mentioned on the list before, but I just upgraded my system to Mojave this morning and now I’ve noticed that the name of the folder has shifted upwards. A screenshot can be found at: https://snag.gy/mlyq9S.jpg With regards, Angelo Machils ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] G Suite/Gmail namespace
Hello, I have a G Suite and an old Gmail account and I would see all the folders (well, labels) in one row in the sources list (so not some folders as subfolders from either [Gmail] or [Google Mail]). I have looked at https://manual.mailmate-app.com/hidden_preferences, the IMAP namespaces section and entered “namespaceResponse = "((\"[Google Mail]\" \"/\")) NIL NIL”;” in the sources.plist and now all the folders are neatly in a single column, but it still shows the [Google Mail] as a folder in the list. Usually, with other clients, if one configures the IMAP namespace, the namespace itself disappears in the list. Anyone any idea how I should configure it correctly in MM? — Regards, Angelo Machils___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] recentsd used by MailMate?
Hello, On 13 Mar 2018, at 8:58, Jan Erik Moström wrote: On 13 Mar 2018, at 7:09, Angelo Machils wrote: Even though I don’t use Apple Mail (it’s not even configured), I notice that recentsd is started and using a lot of memory if the system has been on for some time (between 2 and 2.5Gb.). The only thing I can find, are some older reports of this being a problem with older versions of Mail, but I don’t even start/use this. Does MailMate use recentsd as well? The first thing I saw was that this was caused by a Safari bug I don’t use Safari either. But what I find is that it’s related to Mail ‘constantly asking recentsd for recent contacts’, but since I don’t use Mail, the question is if MailMate uses this daemon as well? Regards, Angelo Machils ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] recentsd used by MailMate?
Hello, Even though I don’t use Apple Mail (it’s not even configured), I notice that recentsd is started and using a lot of memory if the system has been on for some time (between 2 and 2.5Gb.). The only thing I can find, are some older reports of this being a problem with older versions of Mail, but I don’t even start/use this. Does MailMate use recentsd as well? I’m running the latest (beta) build, 5461. Regards, Angelo Machils ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] 'New Message' not possible
Hello, I’ve noticed this before, but now it happened again: I just opened my MacBook Air and MailMate was still running. But the ‘New Message’ icon as well as the menu item are greyed out. Restarting MailMate or even the system does not work in this case. The previous time(s) I had to reinstall MailMate?! I’m running the latest stable version r5443…… Regards, Angelo Machils ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] double sent mail outlook.com
Hello, I can’t seem to find such an option in Office365/Outlook (web) anywhere. I have also a business account on Office365 through my work, and strangely enough, there this doesn’t happen?! Regards, Angelo Machils On 20 Feb 2018, at 11:44, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 5 Feb 2018, at 7:48, Angelo Machils wrote: Sorry about the late response. No, it's on the server that I see the second copy of the sent email. A little later it also shows up in MailMate. Ok, that does sound like Outlook is saving emails sent with SMTP. I can't find any setting in outlook.com to that effect, and even if there were such a setting, it would be not of a lot of use. Because when I have to use the webmail, the sent mail would not be saved. No, the setting I'm looking for is something like: “Don't save copies in IMAP account when email clients use SMTP.” Most often, SMTP and IMAP are completely separate things and this wouldn't be an issue at all. It is the client's responsibility to save sent messages. Some email servers are now “smarter”, but it's badly standardized and not quite clear how an email client should behave. Since Gmail does this then one could argue that it's now the norm, but I don't consider Gmail standard in any way ;-) (What webmail does is irrelevant since webmail is its own client and it should naturally always save sent messages.) Technically, I believe the underlying bandwidth optimization problem is better solved by [this RFC](https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4468), but MailMate doesn't support this extension and I'm actually not sure if or how many SMTP servers support it. Isn't there a settings in MailMate where I can turn off saving sent mails per account? No, and it's partly because I'm unsure how to implement it without risking losing sent messages. I would prefer a solution which ensures that MailMate doesn't delete it until it has found and downloaded the copy saved by the server. This includes verifying that it's an identical copy, for example, Gmail some times rewrites headers and I'll be blamed for that if MailMate doesn't somehow record what it really sent. In other words, I would prefer a feature like “Detect and delete duplicates” (for Sent Messages) rather than “Don't save sent messages”, but in practice the first is just a safer variant of the latter. But the answer is still: No, MailMate does not currently have the feature you are looking for. -- Benny https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/ On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 10:40 AM, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 4 Feb 2018, at 9:43, Angelo Machils wrote: When I sent an email through my Hotmail account, it turns out that on the server for every sent mail, there is a second copy. MailMate doesn’t show this second copy in the Sent folder, but I just found out that on the web-app for outlook.com, every sent mail has a second copy. Can I change this behaviour somewhere? If it's because the server saves a copy in the mailbox for sent messages then there might be a server setting to prevent this. Since you cannot see both copies in webmail then I also suspect that there is a synchronization issue. Check that the mailbox for sent messages is online when you look at it under SOURCES in the mailbox list. (It's not online if it's greyed out.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Preserving tags
Hello, Just remember that dovecot is only part of the equation, you also need to configure stuff like postfix (or exim), spamassassin etc. On *nix, there is a package called iredmail that makes installing (and configuring) a lot easier. Perhaps you could also look at something like Zimbra, very easy to install and maintain and there are hosted versions out there. Zimbra supports tags, although I have no experience in how far they are compatible with mailmate. You could test with zmailcloud, this is one of the hosted Zimbra installs and they offer a free trail. --- Regards, Angelo Machils On 13 Feb 2018, at 9:11, Rick Holzgrafe wrote: You’re the second person to suggest running a local Dovecot server. One of the bits of good news in all this was that I was looking forward to letting experts worry about the server stuff. I’m not an expert, and maintaining our own server has been a nightmare. So I’m a bit allergic to the notion of continuing to run even a limited server. But y’all are saying it’s “fairly simple”, and Fredrik Jonsson has contributed a web page he wrote that explains how to do it in detail. So thanks to you both, and I will definitely keep it in mind! On 12 Feb 2018, at 23:05, Bill Cole wrote: On 12 Feb 2018, at 18:16, Rick Holzgrafe wrote: Is there any way to preserve not just the mail, but also the tags that we have applied in Mailmate? I have explored the Application Support > Mailmate folder, but as far as I can tell the tag info is not stored there, except for a handy list of all the tag names. The tags are stored on the server as IMAP "keywords" a.k.a. "flags." This is a standard part of the IMAP protocol, but support for user-defined keywords/flags is sparse. MacOS X Server uses Dovecot as its IMAP server and so supports an arbitrary collection of keywords. Many email service providers (e.g. Microsoft) have IMAP keyword support so limited that it might as well not exist. Others (e.g. Google) conflate flags/keywords and folder names, so massive weirdness can occur. BOTTOM LINE: You cannot count on a mailbox storage & access provider to support existing MailMate tags. If they use Dovecot, Cyrus, or Courier, you may be able to just drag messages across and let MM do the work. Otherwise? Who knows. POSSIBLE SOLUTION: It's fairly simple to yank the mailboxes out of the MacOS X Server mailstore and drop them into a MacPorts (or Homebrew or handmade) installation of Dovecot. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate — Rick Holzgrafe r...@semicolon.com http://www.semicolon.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] double sent mail outlook.com
Hello, No, it's on the server that I see the second copy of the sent email. A little later it also shows up in MailMate. I can't find any setting in outlook.com to that effect, and even if there were such a setting, it would be not of a lot of use. Because when I have to use the webmail, the sent mail would not be saved. Isn't there a settings in MailMate where I can turn off saving sent mails per account? Regards, Angelo Machils On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 10:40 AM, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > On 4 Feb 2018, at 9:43, Angelo Machils wrote: > > When I sent an email through my Hotmail account, it turns out that on the >> server for every sent mail, there is a second copy. MailMate doesn’t show >> this second copy in the Sent folder, but I just found out that on the >> web-app for outlook.com, every sent mail has a second copy. >> >> Can I change this behaviour somewhere? >> > > If it's because the server saves a copy in the mailbox for sent messages > then there might be a server setting to prevent this. > > Since you cannot see both copies in webmail then I also suspect that there > is a synchronization issue. Check that the mailbox for sent messages is > online when you look at it under SOURCES in the mailbox list. (It's not > online if it's greyed out.) > > -- > Benny > https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/ > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > -- --- Groeten, Angelo ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] double sent mail outlook.com
Hello, When I sent an email through my Hotmail account, it turns out that on the server for every sent mail, there is a second copy. MailMate doesn’t show this second copy in the Sent folder, but I just found out that on the web-app for outlook.com, every sent mail has a second copy. Can I change this behaviour somewhere? --- Regards, Angelo Machils ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
