[MlMt] Share -> Send Message fails

[Randall Gellens]

MailMate 58999 on MacOS 11.6.5.

Using the "share" function from Safari or Firerfox to send the current 
page via MailMate now drops all data. It used to create a draft message 
with the "Subject:" header field pre-filled with the page title and the 
body pre-filled with the URL. Now, it's all blank.


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Re: [MlMt] share office365 mailboxes in r5692

[Martin Dege]

Figured that I can simply turn off OAuth2 for the shared mailbox. Now it 
works just like before.


On 10 Jun 2020, at 13:01, Martin Dege wrote:


Hi there,

R5692 changes the way office365 accounts are authenticated. How do I 
authenticate shared mailboxes now?


Best,


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[MlMt] share office365 mailboxes in r5692

[Martin Dege]

Hi there,

R5692 changes the way office365 accounts are authenticated. How do I 
authenticate shared mailboxes now?


Best,


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Re: [MlMt] Share with Mailmate message not at the front most

[Charlie Garrison]

On 20 Sep 2017, at 20:02, Youri SREBOT wrote:

When sharing a pdf from Preview, Word, Excel… we have a message 
window asking to confirm the action and after the mail is generated 
with the attachment in Mailmate.


- 1. I personally find the confirmation window a waste of time 
more than anything as the “Sahre with Mailmate” action is very 
unlikely to be hit unintentionally. What do you think guys? Need? No 
need?


- 2. More annoying is the fact that the message generated in 
Mailmate doesn’t appear in a window at the front most. In a 
clustered environment it is a waste of time to have to find the 
message generated. Any possibility to modify this behavior?


I’m sure Benny will clarify, but I believe that is a warning dialog 
from the OS. There is nothing Mailmate can do to avoid it.


-cng

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Re: [MlMt] Share with Mailmate message not at the front most

[Steven M. Bellovin]

On 20 Sep 2017, at 8:59, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 20 Sep 2017, at 12:02, Youri SREBOT wrote:

When sharing a pdf from Preview, Word, Excel… we have a message 
window asking to confirm the action and after the mail is generated 
with the attachment in Mailmate.


1. I personally find the confirmation window a waste of time more 
than anything as the “Sahre with Mailmate” action is very 
unlikely to be hit unintentionally. What do you think guys? Need? No 
need?


It's not needed, but there is currently no way to avoid it. As far as 
I've been able to figure out, only Apple has access to an API which 
can skip this window.


Sigh.


2. More annoying is the fact that the message generated in Mailmate 
doesn’t appear in a window at the front most. In a clustered 
environment it is a waste of time to have to find the message 
generated. Any possibility to modify this behavior?


I'll change this.


Thanks!


--Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb

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Re: [MlMt] Share with Mailmate message not at the front most

[Youri SREBOT]

Thank you Benny,

Always on TOP!

Cordialement,

__Youri__


On 20 Sep 2017, at 14:59, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 20 Sep 2017, at 12:02, Youri SREBOT wrote:

When sharing a pdf from Preview, Word, Excel… we have a message 
window asking to confirm the action and after the mail is generated 
with the attachment in Mailmate.


  1. I personally find the confirmation window a waste of time more 
than anything as the “Sahre with Mailmate” action is very 
unlikely to be hit unintentionally. What do you think guys? Need? No 
need?




It's not needed, but there is currently no way to avoid it. As far as 
I've been able to figure out, only Apple has access to an API which 
can skip this window.


  1. More annoying is the fact that the message generated in Mailmate 
doesn’t appear in a window at the front most. In a clustered 
environment it is a waste of time to have to find the message 
generated. Any possibility to modify this behavior?




I'll change this.

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Re: [MlMt] Share with Mailmate message not at the front most

[Benny Kjær Nielsen]

On 20 Sep 2017, at 12:02, Youri SREBOT wrote:

When sharing a pdf from Preview, Word, Excel… we have a message 
window asking to confirm the action and after the mail is generated 
with the attachment in Mailmate.


1. I personally find the confirmation window a waste of time more than 
anything as the “Sahre with Mailmate” action is very unlikely to 
be hit unintentionally. What do you think guys? Need? No need?


It's not needed, but there is currently no way to avoid it. As far as 
I've been able to figure out, only Apple has access to an API which can 
skip this window.


2. More annoying is the fact that the message generated in Mailmate 
doesn’t appear in a window at the front most. In a clustered 
environment it is a waste of time to have to find the message 
generated. Any possibility to modify this behavior?


I'll change this.

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Re: [MlMt] Share with Mailmate message not at the front most

[Steven M. Bellovin]

On 20 Sep 2017, at 6:02, Youri SREBOT wrote:


Hi all,

When sharing a pdf from Preview, Word, Excel… we have a message 
window asking to confirm the action and after the mail is generated 
with the attachment in Mailmate.


	- 1. I personally find the confirmation window a waste of time more 
than anything as the “Sahre with Mailmate” action is very unlikely 
to be hit unintentionally. What do you think guys? Need? No need?


	- 2. More annoying is the fact that the message generated in Mailmate 
doesn’t appear in a window at the front most. In a clustered 
environment it is a waste of time to have to find the message 
generated. Any possibility to modify this behavior?



I agree with you on both points.


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[MlMt] Share with Mailmate message not at the front most

[Youri SREBOT]

Hi all,

When sharing a pdf from Preview, Word, Excel… we have a message window 
asking to confirm the action and after the mail is generated with the 
attachment in Mailmate.


	- 1. I personally find the confirmation window a waste of time more 
than anything as the “Sahre with Mailmate” action is very unlikely 
to be hit unintentionally. What do you think guys? Need? No need?


	- 2. More annoying is the fact that the message generated in Mailmate 
doesn’t appear in a window at the front most. In a clustered 
environment it is a waste of time to have to find the message generated. 
Any possibility to modify this behavior?


Thanking you in anticipation and wishing you a good day,

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Re: [MlMt] Share

[Benny Kjær Nielsen]

On 15 Mar 2017, at 18:44, John D. Muccigrosso wrote:

The MM2 share widget pops up a window asking if I want to open a 
message or cancel. A few questions:


1. How is this an improvement over the built-in Mail share widget? I 
suppose it allows you to use MM and another mail client?


2. No button on the pop-up is a keyboard default, so you have to click 
on it.


3. Most of the time you're going to want to create the message, so 
"OK" should be the default, but more broadly, how is asking here 
better than just opening a new message that can be closed (and thus 
canceled)? It's one action in either case.


So I guess I'd suggest that the pop-up step be eliminated.


If I remember correctly then the problem is that the Apple API for 
implementing this does not allow me to make the Share widget skip the 
window. Apple Mail can only do it because it uses a private API not 
available to third party developers. I think I tried getting around this 
problem, but I wasn't successful.


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Re: [MlMt] Share

[Randall Meadows]

On 15 Mar 2017, at 11:44, John D. Muccigrosso wrote:

The MM2 share widget pops up a window asking if I want to open a 
message or cancel. A few questions:


1. How is this an improvement over the built-in Mail share widget? I 
suppose it allows you to use MM and another mail client?


2. No button on the pop-up is a keyboard default, so you have to click 
on it.


3. Most of the time you're going to want to create the message, so 
"OK" should be the default, but more broadly, how is asking here 
better than just opening a new message that can be closed (and thus 
canceled)? It's one action in either case.


So I guess I'd suggest that the pop-up step be eliminated.


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[MlMt] Share

[John D. Muccigrosso]

The MM2 share widget pops up a window asking if I want to open a message 
or cancel. A few questions:


1. How is this an improvement over the built-in Mail share widget? I 
suppose it allows you to use MM and another mail client?


2. No button on the pop-up is a keyboard default, so you have to click 
on it.


3. Most of the time you're going to want to create the message, so "OK" 
should be the default, but more broadly, how is asking here better than 
just opening a new message that can be closed (and thus canceled)? It's 
one action in either case.


So I guess I'd suggest that the pop-up step be eliminated.

John
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Re: [MlMt] Share MailMate between user accounts – app damaged for all but one user

[Benny Kjær Nielsen]

On 6 Jan 2017, at 14:21, Anders Thoresson wrote:

I’m setting up a new MacBook Air for my family. I’ve installed 
MailMate in the shared application folder and set it up for the first 
family member.


But when I try to do it for the second person, logging into her 
account, MacOS’ Finder claims that MailMate is damaged and needs to 
be downloaded once again. If I switch back to the account where I 
first set up MailMate, it still works.


Two questions, obviously:

- What’s going on?


MailMate has an (old) issue where the Software Update mechanism doesn't 
work well with multiple accounts. I'm guessing this is what happened 
here.



- How do I solve the problem?


I believe this can do it (until you update again):

chmod -R go+rX /Applications/MailMate.app

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[MlMt] Share MailMate between user accounts – app damaged for all but one user

[Anders Thoresson]

Hi!

I’m setting up a new MacBook Air for my family. I’ve installed 
MailMate in the shared application folder and set it up for the first 
family member.


But when I try to do it for the second person, logging into her account, 
MacOS’ Finder claims that MailMate is damaged and needs to be 
downloaded once again. If I switch back to the account where I first set 
up MailMate, it still works.


Two questions, obviously:

- What’s going on?
- How do I solve the problem?

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Re: [MlMt] Share settings on multiple installs?

[Marc ARC]

Benny,

Sounds like a nice way to do it,

willing to test this any time

Marc


On 10 Jan 2014, at 22:09, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 10 Jan 2014, at 15:28, Jonathan Clark wrote:

Having tried MlMt for a month and love what it already is, and that 
the
route to even greater things is clear, I'm pleased to commit to it, 
So I'd
like to use it on my college computer as well. Is there a way of 
sharing
app settings (and account settings) over Dropbox, so I can keep the 
two in

sync?


No, you can easily move all the .plist files in `~/Library/Application 
Support/MailMate`, but there is no way to synchronize these. In 
particular, you should never change these files manually while 
MailMate is running.


I've considered ways to synchronize certain settings using IMAP 
itself, in particular, smart mailboxes and tags, but I haven't yet 
tried anything in practice.


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Re: [MlMt] Share settings on multiple installs?

[Jonathan Clark]

On 10 Jan 2014, at 21:09, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 10 Jan 2014, at 15:28, Jonathan Clark wrote:

Having tried MlMt for a month and love what it already is, and that 
the
route to even greater things is clear, I'm pleased to commit to it, 
So I'd
like to use it on my college computer as well. Is there a way of 
sharing
app settings (and account settings) over Dropbox, so I can keep the 
two in

sync?


No, you can easily move all the .plist files in `~/Library/Application 
Support/MailMate`, but there is no way to synchronize these. In 
particular, you should never change these files manually while 
MailMate is running.


I've considered ways to synchronize certain settings using IMAP 
itself, in particular, smart mailboxes and tags, but I haven't yet 
tried anything in practice.


I'll copy the .plist files manually, then. Thanks for a clear answer. I 
know the implementation of such a thing would be difficult. One newish 
app that has added this feature is Alfred, and having declared which one 
is the 'master', sync of settings works nicely.


Regards,

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Re: [MlMt] Share settings on multiple installs?

[Benny Kjær Nielsen]

On 10 Jan 2014, at 15:28, Jonathan Clark wrote:

Having tried MlMt for a month and love what it already is, and that 
the
route to even greater things is clear, I'm pleased to commit to it, So 
I'd
like to use it on my college computer as well. Is there a way of 
sharing
app settings (and account settings) over Dropbox, so I can keep the 
two in

sync?


No, you can easily move all the .plist files in `~/Library/Application 
Support/MailMate`, but there is no way to synchronize these. In 
particular, you should never change these files manually while MailMate 
is running.


I've considered ways to synchronize certain settings using IMAP itself, 
in particular, smart mailboxes and tags, but I haven't yet tried 
anything in practice.


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[MlMt] Share settings on multiple installs?

[Jonathan Clark]

I thought I had seen this mentioned on the mailing lists, but now can't
find it.

Having tried MlMt for a month and love what it already is, and that the
route to even greater things is clear, I'm pleased to commit to it, So I'd
like to use it on my college computer as well. Is there a way of sharing
app settings (and account settings) over Dropbox, so I can keep the two in
sync?

Thanks,

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