Re: [MlMt] Where have my scrollbars gone?

2017-06-22 Thread lists . freron . com

wow - thanks a lot ED

this behavoir was annoying me always on OSX/macOS - i am happy for your 
hint - i just set it to `now`


On 22 Jun 2017, at 15:43, Edward Thome wrote:


On 22 Jun 2017, at 8:34, Paul Sture wrote:

I've just recently noticed that scrollbar behaviour in Sierra seems 
to have changed.


I can no longer see any down/up icons at the top and bottom 
respectively of vertical scrollbars.


While this applies to all applications, it's a disaster for MailMate.



In the General Pane of System Preferences is an option to “Show 
scroll bars:  Automatically based on mouse or trackpad, When 
scrolling, or Always”


The first is what it is automatically set on, the last is what 
you’re used to.


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Re: [MlMt] Where have my scrollbars gone?

2017-06-22 Thread Edward Thome

On 22 Jun 2017, at 8:50, Paul Sture wrote:

In the General Pane of System Preferences is an option to “Show 
scroll bars:  Automatically based on mouse or trackpad, When 
scrolling, or Always”




Yes I have that set to Always.  (The next option down "Click in the 
scroll bar to:" is set to "Jump to the next page", but I'm pretty sure 
I haven't ever changed that.)


The only computer I have which is new enough to run Sierra is a 2011 
MacBook Pro.  I see scroll bars all the time in MailMate (for pages and 
listings that are long enough to require one), without having to use the 
trackpad to start the page scrolling.   I’ll keep investigating.


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Re: [MlMt] Where have my scrollbars gone?

2017-06-22 Thread Edward Thome


On 22 Jun 2017, at 8:34, Paul Sture wrote:

I've just recently noticed that scrollbar behaviour in Sierra seems to 
have changed.


I can no longer see any down/up icons at the top and bottom 
respectively of vertical scrollbars.


While this applies to all applications, it's a disaster for MailMate.



In the General Pane of System Preferences is an option to “Show scroll 
bars:  Automatically based on mouse or trackpad, When scrolling, or 
Always”


The first is what it is automatically set on, the last is what you’re 
used to.


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[MlMt] Where have my scrollbars gone?

2017-06-22 Thread Paul Sture
I've just recently noticed that scrollbar behaviour in Sierra seems to 
have changed.


I can no longer see any down/up icons at the top and bottom respectively 
of vertical scrollbars.


While this applies to all applications, it's a disaster for MailMate.

a) The only way I've found so far to get the vertical scrollbar to 
appear while I am focussed

   on the body of an email is to hit up-arrow or down-arrow.
b) in a MailMate reply to an HTML message, which triggered the Preview 
pane, I was unable

   to scroll back up to text I was trying to answer to.
c) I am currently unable to scroll down through the message summary pane 
- I wanted to select
   a bunch a messages to delete, but couldn't find a way of moving any 
further than the

   bottom of a window.

My mouse's scroll wheel seems to have been disabled.

I am also seeing weird scroll wheel behaviour in Terminal.

Are Apple trying to force me to buy a Trackpad?
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