Re: [MlMt] Error with items in Office365 account Deleted Items folder
On 16 May 2021, at 17:16, Christian Bailey via mailmate wrote: > Every time I start MM I get the below error from my Office365 account. I > disabled all the non-mail folders, but am getting this error for two items in > my Deleted Items folder. > > There are of course calendar, contact, and task items in Deleted Items, but > apparently only two of them are causing this error, and it only started a > couple of days ago. In my opinion, those items should not be in Deleted Items. It's a mess that these items/folders are available over IMAP at all and I have no idea why Exchange does this. > I do want MM to index the mail in Deleted Items. Of course. > I tried to deleted the problem items, but can’t figure out how to identify > them: messages with those UIDs are not in the folder in MM. I can access the > folder in Outlook for Windows but don’t know how to see UIDs? Yes, this is tricky when MailMate cannot fetch them and therefore knows nothing about them. You can use MailMate to see where they are located relative to other messages (based on UID). There's a chance that they'll date-wise be in the same “area”. > "MailMate encountered the following error: “Failed to fetch data for 1 > messages.”. Maybe also use the Activity Viewer in MailMate to see what exactly the server tells you when this fails. There's a chance though that it's just some kind of nonsensical error number after a so-called “BAD” IMAP response. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] error "Mailbox unexpectedly already exists"
On 21 Oct 2019, at 14:49, Sam Hathaway wrote: Try unsubscribing from the mailbox in Edit IMAP Account > Edit Subscriptions maybe? Huh, it wasn't even showing there. So I went into my Gmail labels again and turned on Show in IMAP for it, and now it is subscribed to in Mailmate's Edit Subscriptions, and I haven't seen the error pop up in a couple of hours. If it does appear again -- it always seemed to pop up at random -- I'll try unsubscribing from it in Mailmate while leaving Show in IMAP on in Gmail... Thanks for the suggestion! Shoshanna Green shoshan...@gmail.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] error "Mailbox unexpectedly already exists"
Try unsubscribing from the mailbox in Edit IMAP Account > Edit Subscriptions maybe? I’ve sometimes had luck getting mailboxes unstuck by unsubscribing, taking MlMt offline, back online, refreshing the IMAP folder list, etc. Not sure if it’ll work in your case but it’s another knob to fiddle with. On 21 Oct 2019, at 14:45, Shoshanna Green wrote: I'm still hoping someone can offer some suggestions for how to clear this error? I can send and receive mail through MailMate just fine, but the error message still appears every now and then. Thanks, Shoshanna Green On 14 Oct 2019, at 11:31, Shoshanna Green wrote: I tried to clean up some of my Gmail labels in this account, and obviously messed something up, because MailMate keeps popping up the following message: MailMate encountered the following error: “Mailbox unexpectedly already exists. Command: 'I6 CREATE "[Gmail]/Sent Mail"'.”. Mailbox: “[Gmail]/Sent Mail”. with options of "retry", "take account offline," and "try again later." I've been clicking the latter. I tried going back to my Gmail "manage labels" page on the Web at mail.google.com and deleting the "[Gmail]/Sent Mail" label (which never has any messages in it anyway), but that doesn't stop the error message from appearing, and when I check, the label has reappeared in Gmail's Web access. When I look at the [Gmail]/Sent Mail mailbox for this account in MailMate, it's greyed out and marked "(failed)", and MailMate reports about 600 messages in it, even though Gmail looked at through Web access says the label has 0 messages. My other Gmail account also has a "[Gmail]/Sent Mail" mailbox in MailMate, but it's greyed out and marked "(offline)". I tried taking the "[Gmail]/Sent Mail" mailbox that's throwing an error offline as well, and the attempt failed with the same "mailbox unexpectedly already exists" error. The mailing list archive includes a message from Sherman Wilcox this past March who had the same problem, and Benny said "this was solved off list. It was related to the Archive mailbox somehow having become unsubscribed (client side) and MailMate did not handle this well." But MailMate's Archive mailbox for this account seems fine -- I don't use it and there's nothing in it, but it's not greyed out or offline or anything. Can anyone advise? I promise I'll never try to tidy up Gmail again... Shoshanna Green shoshan...@gmail.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] error "Mailbox unexpectedly already exists"
I'm still hoping someone can offer some suggestions for how to clear this error? I can send and receive mail through MailMate just fine, but the error message still appears every now and then. Thanks, Shoshanna Green On 14 Oct 2019, at 11:31, Shoshanna Green wrote: I tried to clean up some of my Gmail labels in this account, and obviously messed something up, because MailMate keeps popping up the following message: MailMate encountered the following error: “Mailbox unexpectedly already exists. Command: 'I6 CREATE "[Gmail]/Sent Mail"'.”. Mailbox: “[Gmail]/Sent Mail”. with options of "retry", "take account offline," and "try again later." I've been clicking the latter. I tried going back to my Gmail "manage labels" page on the Web at mail.google.com and deleting the "[Gmail]/Sent Mail" label (which never has any messages in it anyway), but that doesn't stop the error message from appearing, and when I check, the label has reappeared in Gmail's Web access. When I look at the [Gmail]/Sent Mail mailbox for this account in MailMate, it's greyed out and marked "(failed)", and MailMate reports about 600 messages in it, even though Gmail looked at through Web access says the label has 0 messages. My other Gmail account also has a "[Gmail]/Sent Mail" mailbox in MailMate, but it's greyed out and marked "(offline)". I tried taking the "[Gmail]/Sent Mail" mailbox that's throwing an error offline as well, and the attempt failed with the same "mailbox unexpectedly already exists" error. The mailing list archive includes a message from Sherman Wilcox this past March who had the same problem, and Benny said "this was solved off list. It was related to the Archive mailbox somehow having become unsubscribed (client side) and MailMate did not handle this well." But MailMate's Archive mailbox for this account seems fine -- I don't use it and there's nothing in it, but it's not greyed out or offline or anything. Can anyone advise? I promise I'll never try to tidy up Gmail again... Shoshanna Green shoshan...@gmail.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] error 1002 when using Command menu for Omnifocus integration
On 21 May 2019, at 20:58, Michael Dunston wrote: I am on a new MBP with a clean install of MacOS 10.14.5, with Mailmate version 1.12.4 (5594) and the current App Store version of OmniFocus (version 3.3.2/GM-v123.20) and am getting the following error when attempting to use the Command menu to add messages into OmniFocus: “1002 osascript is not allowed to send keystrokes.” I have checked the System Preferences -> Security & Privacy -> Privacy -> Automation” settings as mentioned on the list, and Mailmate.app is displayed with OmniFocus.app and System Events.app listed and checked. Curiously though, even with the error it seems to intermittently work. (sometimes, but not always) Does this issue persist with the latest release of MailMate? This type of issue can be very hard to debug since a lot of system permissions are involved (and multiple applications), but I don't currently have identical user reports (that might be a sign that it's a local issue of some sort). -- Benny https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Error message
On 7 Feb 2019, at 11:53, Robert Brenstein wrote: This msg started popping up lately IMAP problem for xxx@ account MailMate encountered the following error: “Server response: “* BAD command line limit exceeded”.”. What does it mean? Taking account offline is not a real option as this is the main email account. Apparently, MailMate generates an IMAP command which is longer than what the server allows (whatever that limit is). I can tell you more (and maybe change something in MailMate) if you send me some logs. Open the Activity Viewer, trigger the error, and then use ”Help ▸ Send Server Logs”. (Sorry about the late reply on this issue.) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Error message
On 10 May 2016, at 3:51, Howard Wettstein wrote: Sequence of steps: for some reason, a first level folder (with lots of subfolders) got moved and I found this first level folder and all it’s contents as a subfolder of another folder. So I tried to move the whole thing to be where it belongs, as a first level folder. I did it by drag and drop and the stuff (all or certainly most of it) did move, but I can’t delete what remains as an extensive sub-folder. I can’t imagine that this is clear. Anyway, I’m happy to explain further. I'll contact you off list for more details. I'm going to need some files with possibly private information. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Error message
Relining does not help. Here’s the situation and the sequence of steps: I have lots of folders and subfolders; it’s a gmail account but through my university and the address is ho...@ucr.edu I had been using Apple Mail, but I much prefer your program. I’m just learning as I go. Sequence of steps: for some reason, a first level folder (with lots of subfolders) got moved and I found this first level folder and all it’s contents as a subfolder of another folder. So I tried to move the whole thing to be where it belongs, as a first level folder. I did it by drag and drop and the stuff (all or certainly most of it) did move, but I can’t delete what remains as an extensive sub-folder. I can’t imagine that this is clear. Anyway, I’m happy to explain further. Howie On 7 May 2016, at 0:33, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 6 May 2016, at 22:48, Howard Wettstein wrote: MailMate encountered the following error: “Server response: “N5 NO [NONEXISTENT] Unknown folder. (Failure) [THROTTLED]”. Command attempted: “N5 DELETE "Philosophy: People/Professional/OLD"”.”. Mailbox: “Philosophy: People/Professional/OLD”. I’m trying to move a misplaced folder to a better location. It’s mostly done but the old one won’t delete. The above is the error message. It looks like it's already deleted, but for some reason MailMate does not know this. Relaunching might clear this up, but if it doesn't then I'd like to debug the issue. (Ideally, I'd like a sequence of steps which reproduces the issue, but that might be tricky since I suspect race conditions could be involved.) There's a (possibly) separate issue. The `[THROTTLED]` part of the response means that there has been more traffic between you and the server than Google allows. This should only happen when initially synchronizing a large account. Otherwise, it's a sign that something is “looping”. Is it a large account in terms of the number of messages and/or an account with a large number of mailboxes? -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Error message
On 6 May 2016, at 22:48, Howard Wettstein wrote: MailMate encountered the following error: “Server response: “N5 NO [NONEXISTENT] Unknown folder. (Failure) [THROTTLED]”. Command attempted: “N5 DELETE "Philosophy: People/Professional/OLD"”.”. Mailbox: “Philosophy: People/Professional/OLD”. I’m trying to move a misplaced folder to a better location. It’s mostly done but the old one won’t delete. The above is the error message. It looks like it's already deleted, but for some reason MailMate does not know this. Relaunching might clear this up, but if it doesn't then I'd like to debug the issue. (Ideally, I'd like a sequence of steps which reproduces the issue, but that might be tricky since I suspect race conditions could be involved.) There's a (possibly) separate issue. The `[THROTTLED]` part of the response means that there has been more traffic between you and the server than Google allows. This should only happen when initially synchronizing a large account. Otherwise, it's a sign that something is “looping”. Is it a large account in terms of the number of messages and/or an account with a large number of mailboxes? -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Error: Unable to obtain UID for message at destination mailbox
On 22 Jan 2016, at 7:53, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 21 Jan 2016, at 23:59, Andrey Ustyuzhanin wrote: Are there any ideas what can be done to fix this? When the server does not provide the UID automatically then MailMate has various strategies to obtain it and this is likely to be what fails. In order to analyze the issue I need you to hold down shift (⇧) when clicking “Retry”. This should generate a log file on your desktop which you can send to me using “Help ▸ Send Feedback”. Don't send it to the list since it's likely to contain email addresses and a small bit of the uploaded message. Thanks for the logs (off list). The problem is this unexpected reply from the server: ~~~ 08:43:41 S: I6 OK [APPENDUID 1344434475 none] APPEND Completed. ~~~ It tells MailMate that the UIDVALIDITY value of the destination mailbox is 1344434475 (which is fine) and that the UID is `none` which is pure nonsense (it should be a positive integer). In other words, the problem is a server bug with the side effect that MailMate skips its workarounds for obtaining a UID. I'll look into fixing that and let you know when I have something for you to test. You are also most welcome to report the issue to Yandex by referencing this email (my Russian skills are extremely basic). This is the feedback URL from the IMAP log: http://feedback.yandex.ru/?from=mail A very quick fix for them would be to simply return `OK APPEND Completed` if they really cannot provide the UID. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Error: Unable to obtain UID for message at destination mailbox
On 22 Jan 2016, at 10:47, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: It tells MailMate that the UIDVALIDITY value of the destination mailbox is 1344434475 (which is fine) and that the UID is `none` which is pure nonsense (it should be a positive integer). In other words, the problem is a server bug with the side effect that MailMate skips its workarounds for obtaining a UID. I'll look into fixing that and let you know when I have something for you to test. I looked into this and it turns out that I think I already made this workaround (to work around a different issue). You should try the latest test version: Hold down ⌥ when clicking “Check Now” in the Software Update preferences pane (r5205). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Error: Unable to obtain UID for message at destination mailbox
Hi Benny, thanks for letting know. however this issue was so annoying that I removed IMAP account, added it again and the error has gone. — Kindest Regards, Andrey Ustyuzhanin On 22 Jan 2016, at 15:19, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 22 Jan 2016, at 10:47, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: It tells MailMate that the UIDVALIDITY value of the destination mailbox is 1344434475 (which is fine) and that the UID is `none` which is pure nonsense (it should be a positive integer). In other words, the problem is a server bug with the side effect that MailMate skips its workarounds for obtaining a UID. I'll look into fixing that and let you know when I have something for you to test. I looked into this and it turns out that I think I already made this workaround (to work around a different issue). You should try the latest test version: Hold down ⌥ when clicking “Check Now” in the Software Update preferences pane (r5205). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Error: Unable to obtain UID for message at destination mailbox
On 22 Jan 2016, at 13:35, Andrey Ustyuzhanin wrote: however this issue was so annoying that I removed IMAP account, added it again and the error has gone. That won't help. As soon as you write and send a new message from this account then the problem is going to resurface (given that the server always returns `none` instead of a UID). When that happens then try the latest test release and see if that helps. If not, then generate a new set of logs for me. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Error: Unable to obtain UID for message at destination mailbox
It works now however ) maybe the problem was caused somehow by sending messages from same account using two different mail client (MailMate and mobile one?) — Kindest Regards, Andrey Ustyuzhanin On 22 Jan 2016, at 15:38, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 22 Jan 2016, at 13:35, Andrey Ustyuzhanin wrote: however this issue was so annoying that I removed IMAP account, added it again and the error has gone. That won't help. As soon as you write and send a new message from this account then the problem is going to resurface (given that the server always returns `none` instead of a UID). When that happens then try the latest test release and see if that helps. If not, then generate a new set of logs for me. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Error: Unable to obtain UID for message at destination mailbox
On 22 Jan 2016, at 14:42, Andrey Ustyuzhanin wrote: It works now however ) maybe the problem was caused somehow by sending messages from same account using two different mail client (MailMate and mobile one?) The most likely explanation is that it was somehow related to the message that MailMate tried to upload. Similar to when Exchange IMAP returns a nonsensical error if a message is too big or contains some very long lines. The weird thing with Yandex is that it says OK to the upload and then fails to provide the UID of the message. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Error: Unable to obtain UID for message at destination mailbox
On 21 Jan 2016, at 23:59, Andrey Ustyuzhanin wrote: at one of my accounts I'm constantly receiving this error: MailMate encountered the following error: “Unable to obtain UID for message at destination mailbox.”. Mailbox: “Sent”. [...] Are there any ideas what can be done to fix this? The error is likely related to moving or uploading a message -- and most likely the latter given that it's the Sent mailbox. Some IMAP servers are a bit primitive and cannot tell MailMate the identity of the uploaded message (its UID) on the server after uploading (known as APPEND in IMAP). It could, of course, also be some kind of MailMate bug. When the server does not provide the UID automatically then MailMate has various strategies to obtain it and this is likely to be what fails. In order to analyze the issue I need you to hold down shift (⇧) when clicking “Retry”. This should generate a log file on your desktop which you can send to me using “Help ▸ Send Feedback”. Don't send it to the list since it's likely to contain email addresses and a small bit of the uploaded message. Note that it's likely that each retry attempt results in a new copy of the message on the server. You can stop the error messages by deleting the sent message (hold down ⌥ to use “Message ▸ Delete Now”), but I would expect the same thing to happen again when you send another message. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] error: Message contains NUL characters
On 18 Aug 2014, at 14:19, Lulie Tanett wrote: Hi all, I'm migrating from Mail.app to MailMate and have some offline messages which I'm putting on Fastmail. A few messages fail to upload and it gives me this error message: The IMAP command “APPEND” (to INBOX.ARR Archives) failed with server error: Message contains NUL characters. It also fails (with the same error) if I try to drag the .emlx file from the Finder directly into MailMate. That's not good. It's a strong indication that the message files are corrupted. It is theoretically possible that they are unusual cases of raw binary encoding in email, but it is far more likely that at some point they have been damaged by something. These messages are from 1994-1997 (only a few from these folders failed though; most of them transferred through fine). So, these are messages that predate the existence of Mail.app and presumably were imported into it from something else. That's actually a hopeful sign, since it is not hard to get an errant NUL into text data by way of an off by one error copying one extra byte in many programming languages. If a buggy importing process tacked an extra NUL onto the end of each message body in the .emlx files, Mail.app would likely never have a problem with it. Is there anything I can do to fix them? Maybe. A Mail .emlx file is essentially a text file with 3 parts: a line with the bytesize of the message data, the message data itself, and a short XML property list with Mail's metadata for the message. If there's a NUL tacked onto the end of the message data, Mail would probably show no sign of it and MailMate might not notice it, but it would be lethal when sending the message to an IMAP server using the standard mechanism which forbids raw NUL characters. The way I'd attack the emlx files would start with confirming that they are not entirely garbage and look like something close to a proper emlx. I'm a Unix geek so I'd use 'head' and 'tail', but any text editor should work. If the first line is a number and the next dozen or so are email headers and the last 16 are a plist (see a valid emlx for what that looks like) then you can probably salvage them by pulling the message data out, cleaning it of NULs and any other control characters, and saving it as a .eml file. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Error?
On 25 Mar 2014, at 19:49, Kee Hinckley wrote: On 25 Mar 2014, at 13:41, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: You wouldn't happen to know why Yahoo rejects a message with a single URL? Is this some kind of spam-detection and if it is, why do they suggest adding text to the message (hmm, maybe this is a message intended for their web interface)? My recollection is that they are using it to block potential spam. Adding more text to the message in addition to the URL will get it past the filter. I think they've had that filter for ages. That's it. Most messages consisting of nothing (or almost nothing) but a single URL are spam, and in the past such spam was very common. It is much less common today (presumably a result of that pattern becoming widespread in spam filters) but it is still true that messages like that mostly have other strong spam-sign characteristics. Yahoo has had a problem for many years of poor maintenance of their unique mail infrastructure, and this is one of the externally visible indications: an archaic absolute rejection rule based on a message body pattern that uses a custom reply code. The state of the art in spam filtering was already moving beyond heuristic body patterns as absolute rejection criteria and custom extensions of the reply code space by 2000, but many mail systems have not kept up with that evolution and Yahoo is one of the most prominent examples. Giving away email service for free has a cost... ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Error?
On 24 Mar 2014, at 16:23, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 24 Mar 2014, at 21:19, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: I do have a Yahoo test account and I could try to find out exactly what makes the server return this error (using telnet/openssl), A quick test with MailMate shows that: * Sending a message with no subject and no content is not a problem. * Sending a message with a single URL as content results in the error you are also experiencing. Based on the above, I still think it's a Yahoo issue and not a MailMate issue. Absolutely. However, it is a problem MM could handle better because site-unique reply codes are formally within the bounds of what SMTP servers can do and expect clients to handle properly. The flexibility has a long history: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc821#page-48 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2821#section-4.3.2 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5321#section-4.3.2 Yahoo's SMTP server is a unique piece of software (originally a highly-modified derivative of qmail) with spam-detection hacks dating back to before there was widespread acceptance of the concept of content-based SMTP rejections or of any de facto standard model for how such rejections should be expressed. Due to the imbecilic mishandling of RFC1893/3463 enhanced status codes by MS Exchange, some MTAs with roots in the late 90s chose to define their own custom 5xy reply codes following the principles defined in RFC821 as a way of protecting the detail text from arbitrary replacement by the worst malware ever inflicted on Internet email. (Exchange...) In practical terms, the right thing for a MUA to do when it gets a 5xy reply code at the end-of-data point that it does not recognize is to treat it as it would the generic 550 failure reply at that point or any other 5xy reply: return the message to an unqueued draft state and alert the user to its failure, providing the full unmodified server reply. It is reasonable to add the MUAs own interpretation of *STANDARD* reply codes and enhanced status codes, as long as there is clear distinction between Your grumpy old mail server said THIS and Your friendly modern MUA thinks the problem is THUS. FWIW, the handling of rejection during submission has been almost universally shoddy by all MUAs forever, so MM not being as clear smart as it should be in this case is barely a critique at all. Eudora did reasonably well by v4... ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Error?
On 25 Mar 2014, at 16:11, Bill Cole wrote: In practical terms, the right thing for a MUA to do when it gets a 5xy reply code at the end-of-data point that it does not recognize is to treat it as it would the generic 550 failure reply at that point or any other 5xy reply: return the message to an unqueued draft state and alert the user to its failure, providing the full unmodified server reply. This is actually what happens in MailMate. The message is reopened in the composer and a sheet shows the SMTP error reported (verbatim). (It doesn't even block MailMate as many of the IMAP errors unfortunately still do.) (But I know there are many other cases MailMate does not handle gracefully.) You wouldn't happen to know why Yahoo rejects a message with a single URL? Is this some kind of spam-detection and if it is, why do they suggest adding text to the message (hmm, maybe this is a message intended for their web interface)? -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Error?
On 25 Mar 2014, at 13:41, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: You wouldn't happen to know why Yahoo rejects a message with a single URL? Is this some kind of spam-detection and if it is, why do they suggest adding text to the message (hmm, maybe this is a message intended for their web interface)? My recollection is that they are using it to block potential spam. Adding more text to the message in addition to the URL will get it past the filter. I think they've had that filter for ages.___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Error?
On 24 Mar 2014, at 13:17, m...@assai.com.au wrote: I get the following from very simple outgoing emails: an address, a subject, and (in the body) a link. FAILED TO SEND Unexpected return code 564 (expected 250): “ : We were unable to deliver your message. Please try resending your message by adding some text.”. Why the error, and why would adding some text help? This message is not generated by MailMate. It's the response from the server and it's not something I've seen before. Maybe the server enforces some unusual restrictions on the content of the email. What is the SMTP server address? The error code 564 doesn't really mean anything (perhaps you mistyped). [Here](http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5321#section-4.2.3) is the official list. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Error?
On 24 Mar 2014, at 14:51, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 24 Mar 2014, at 13:17, m...@assai.com.au wrote: I get the following from very simple outgoing emails: an address, a subject, and (in the body) a link. FAILED TO SEND Unexpected return code 564 (expected 250): “ : We were unable to deliver your message. Please try resending your message by adding some text.”. Why the error, and why would adding some text help? This message is not generated by MailMate. It's the response from the server and it's not something I've seen before. Maybe the server enforces some unusual restrictions on the content of the email. What is the SMTP server address? The error code 564 doesn't really mean anything (perhaps you mistyped). [Here](http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5321#section-4.2.3) is the official list. This looks like the kind message sent back from a listserv when it thinks the message is almost exactly the same as a prior one. Dave___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Error?
Hi Benny The 564 was copy-pasted, not typed. If you google: We were unable to deliver your message. Please try resending your message by adding some text you'll see some other people have received the same response, with the same error code. But seems very rare. The SMTP server is smtp.mail.yahoo.com Best David On 25 Mar 2014, at 6:51, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 24 Mar 2014, at 13:17, m...@assai.com.au wrote: I get the following from very simple outgoing emails: an address, a subject, and (in the body) a link. FAILED TO SEND Unexpected return code 564 (expected 250): “ : We were unable to deliver your message. Please try resending your message by adding some text.”. Why the error, and why would adding some text help? This message is not generated by MailMate. It's the response from the server and it's not something I've seen before. Maybe the server enforces some unusual restrictions on the content of the email. What is the SMTP server address? The error code 564 doesn't really mean anything (perhaps you mistyped). [Here](http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5321#section-4.2.3) is the official list. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Error?
This looks like the kind message sent back from a listserv when it thinks the message is almost exactly the same as a prior one. Very strange Google: Unexpected return code 564 (expected 250) gives nothing found at all. The emails were being sent to individuals, not lists. On 25 Mar 2014, at 6:55, David Green wrote: On 24 Mar 2014, at 14:51, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 24 Mar 2014, at 13:17, m...@assai.com.au wrote: I get the following from very simple outgoing emails: an address, a subject, and (in the body) a link. FAILED TO SEND Unexpected return code 564 (expected 250): “ : We were unable to deliver your message. Please try resending your message by adding some text.”. Why the error, and why would adding some text help? This message is not generated by MailMate. It's the response from the server and it's not something I've seen before. Maybe the server enforces some unusual restrictions on the content of the email. What is the SMTP server address? The error code 564 doesn't really mean anything (perhaps you mistyped). [Here](http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5321#section-4.2.3) is the official list. This looks like the kind message sent back from a listserv when it thinks the message is almost exactly the same as a prior one. Dave___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Error?
On 24 Mar 2014, at 21:07, m...@assai.com.au wrote: The 564 was copy-pasted, not typed. If you google: We were unable to deliver your message. Please try resending your message by adding some text Yes, I found that too just a few minutes ago (thought it might be you asking the question). you'll see some other people have received the same response, with the same error code. But seems very rare. There was no (useful) answer on the page I found. The SMTP server is smtp.mail.yahoo.com Yahoo's IMAP implementation is not impressive and I wouldn't be surprised if their SMTP server is buggy too. I do have a Yahoo test account and I could try to find out exactly what makes the server return this error (using telnet/openssl), but I'm not really interested in doing so when I don't think it's a MailMate bug. I probably wouldn't even be able to create a workaround (without adding random text to short messages which would be really weird). Perhaps someone else has a special interest in SMTP servers :-) If it turns out to be a MailMate bug then I'll naturally fix it. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Error?
On 24 Mar 2014, at 21:19, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: I do have a Yahoo test account and I could try to find out exactly what makes the server return this error (using telnet/openssl), A quick test with MailMate shows that: * Sending a message with no subject and no content is not a problem. * Sending a message with a single URL as content results in the error you are also experiencing. Based on the above, I still think it's a Yahoo issue and not a MailMate issue. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
