Re: [MlMt] Searching

2017-04-16 Thread Ralph Alvy
Before typing your search string, hit ‘/‘. You’ll then be given a 
search box for the current mailbox.


On 16 Apr 2017, at 22:07, Dave C wrote:

When I type terms in the search field (top right corner of the viewer 
window) and press Return, MM always defaults to All Messages. Most of 
the time I am in a mailbox and I’m interested in finding my term in 
that mailbox. I now have to click the mailbox to limit the search. 
It’s 99 percent of the time I want to limit the search to the 
current mailbox.


Benny, could you make this a choice (maybe a checkbox next to the 
search field for “All Messages”, or in preferences give a choice 
for defaulting search to the current mailbox or All Messages)? Or just 
change the default to the current mailbox.


How about everyone else? What’s your vote?

Thanks,
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Re: [MlMt] Searching

2017-04-17 Thread John D. Muccigrosso

On 17 Apr 2017, at 1:30, Ralph Alvy wrote:

Before typing your search string, hit ‘/‘. You’ll then be given 
a search box for the current mailbox.


Easier: click in the search field and change the default folder via the 
menu there. I've got mine set to "current folder". Holding down option 
when searching flips it to "all".


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Re: [MlMt] Searching

2017-04-17 Thread John Cooper

Ralph Alvy wrote (at 22:30 on 16 Apr 2017):

Before typing your search string, hit ‘/‘. You’ll then be given 
a search box for the current mailbox.


This doesn't work for me.
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Re: [MlMt] Searching

2017-04-17 Thread Ralph Alvy

Then try Ctrl-Opt-Cmd-F

On 17 Apr 2017, at 6:57, John Cooper wrote:


Ralph Alvy wrote (at 22:30 on 16 Apr 2017):

Before typing your search string, hit ‘/‘. You’ll then be given 
a search box for the current mailbox.


This doesn't work for me.
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Re: [MlMt] Searching

2017-04-17 Thread John Cooper

Ralph Alvy wrote (at 7:18 on 17 Apr 2017):


Then try Ctrl-Opt-Cmd-F


Yes, I know. Just reporting that the cool super-secret slash shortcut in 
the search bar doesn't return the indicated response.

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Re: [MlMt] Searching

2017-04-17 Thread Ralph Alvy
You don’t use the ‘/‘ in the Search Bar. You hit it when not in 
the Search Bar, to call the MailBox Search Bar.


On 17 Apr 2017, at 7:50, John Cooper wrote:


Ralph Alvy wrote (at 7:18 on 17 Apr 2017):


Then try Ctrl-Opt-Cmd-F


Yes, I know. Just reporting that the cool super-secret slash shortcut 
in the search bar doesn't return the indicated response.

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Re: [MlMt] Searching

2017-04-17 Thread John Cooper

Ralph Alvy wrote (at 8:07 on 17 Apr 2017):

You don’t use the ‘/‘ in the Search Bar. You hit it when not in 
the Search Bar, to call the MailBox Search Bar.


Aha! Thank you for clarifying. You had written "before typing the search 
string," which I took to mean immediately before, i.e. while the search 
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Re: [MlMt] Searching

2017-04-17 Thread Ralph Alvy

Doing it this way is very quick and you never need to use your mouse.

On 17 Apr 2017, at 8:19, John Cooper wrote:


Ralph Alvy wrote (at 8:07 on 17 Apr 2017):

You don’t use the ‘/‘ in the Search Bar. You hit it when not in 
the Search Bar, to call the MailBox Search Bar.


Aha! Thank you for clarifying. You had written "before typing the 
search string," which I took to mean immediately before, i.e. while 
the search box is activated for input.

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Re: [MlMt] Searching

2017-04-17 Thread Dave C

Let me see if I’m doing this right:

1. Be in any mailbox view mode (a message highlighted or not), do not 
click in the Search field.
2. Press the “/“ key. This should activate the Search field with 
blinking cursor?


Absolutely nothing happens when I press “/“.

Dave

-=-=-=-


Doing it this way is very quick and you never need to use your mouse.

On 17 Apr 2017, at 8:19, John Cooper wrote:


Ralph Alvy wrote (at 8:07 on 17 Apr 2017):

You don’t use the ‘/‘ in the Search Bar. You hit it when not 
in the Search Bar, to call the MailBox Search Bar.


Aha! Thank you for clarifying. You had written "before typing the 
search string," which I took to mean immediately before, i.e. while 
the search box is activated for input.

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Re: [MlMt] Searching

2017-04-17 Thread Paul Sture

On 17 Apr 2017, at 19:56, Dave C wrote:


Let me see if I’m doing this right:

1. Be in any mailbox view mode (a message highlighted or not), do not 
click in the Search field.
2. Press the “/“ key. This should activate the Search field with 
blinking cursor?


Absolutely nothing happens when I press “/“.



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Re: [MlMt] Searching

2017-04-17 Thread Ralph Alvy

Oops. I see it’s in my keybindings file:

"/"   = "mailboxSearch:";

On 17 Apr 2017, at 10:59, Paul Sture wrote:


On 17 Apr 2017, at 19:56, Dave C wrote:


Let me see if I’m doing this right:

1. Be in any mailbox view mode (a message highlighted or not), do not 
click in the Search field.
2. Press the “/“ key. This should activate the Search field with 
blinking cursor?


Absolutely nothing happens when I press “/“.



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Re: [MlMt] Searching

2017-04-17 Thread Ralph Alvy

I guess you can always just use the built-in shortcuts:

MailBox Search: Ctrl-Opt-Cmd-F
All Files Search: Opt-Cmd-F

On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:05, Ralph Alvy wrote:


Oops. I see it’s in my keybindings file:

"/"   = "mailboxSearch:";

On 17 Apr 2017, at 10:59, Paul Sture wrote:


On 17 Apr 2017, at 19:56, Dave C wrote:


Let me see if I’m doing this right:

1. Be in any mailbox view mode (a message highlighted or not), do 
not click in the Search field.
2. Press the “/“ key. This should activate the Search field with 
blinking cursor?


Absolutely nothing happens when I press “/“.



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Re: [MlMt] Searching

2017-04-17 Thread Dave C
Which means… what? It’s a macro? Keyboard shortcut? (Don’t know 
what keybindings are…)


Are these MM shortcuts, or outside MM?

Dave

-=-=-=-

On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:05, Ralph Alvy wrote:


Oops. I see it’s in my keybindings file:

"/"   = "mailboxSearch:";

On 17 Apr 2017, at 10:59, Paul Sture wrote:


On 17 Apr 2017, at 19:56, Dave C wrote:


Let me see if I’m doing this right:

1. Be in any mailbox view mode (a message highlighted or not), do 
not click in the Search field.
2. Press the “/“ key. This should activate the Search field with 
blinking cursor?


Absolutely nothing happens when I press “/“.



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Re: [MlMt] Searching

2017-04-17 Thread Ralph Alvy

https://manual.mailmate-app.com/custom_key_bindings

On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:08, Dave C wrote:

Which means… what? It’s a macro? Keyboard shortcut? (Don’t know 
what keybindings are…)


Are these MM shortcuts, or outside MM?

Dave

-=-=-=-

On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:05, Ralph Alvy wrote:


Oops. I see it’s in my keybindings file:

"/"   = "mailboxSearch:";

On 17 Apr 2017, at 10:59, Paul Sture wrote:


On 17 Apr 2017, at 19:56, Dave C wrote:


Let me see if I’m doing this right:

1. Be in any mailbox view mode (a message highlighted or not), do 
not click in the Search field.
2. Press the “/“ key. This should activate the Search field 
with blinking cursor?


Absolutely nothing happens when I press “/“.



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enabled...

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Re: [MlMt] Searching

2017-04-17 Thread Ralph Alvy
Regarding that document I referenced, I created my own Custom 
Keybindings file for MailMate and placed it here:


~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Resources/KeyBindings/

On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:15, Ralph Alvy wrote:


https://manual.mailmate-app.com/custom_key_bindings

On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:08, Dave C wrote:

Which means… what? It’s a macro? Keyboard shortcut? (Don’t know 
what keybindings are…)


Are these MM shortcuts, or outside MM?

Dave

-=-=-=-

On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:05, Ralph Alvy wrote:


Oops. I see it’s in my keybindings file:

"/"   = "mailboxSearch:";

On 17 Apr 2017, at 10:59, Paul Sture wrote:


On 17 Apr 2017, at 19:56, Dave C wrote:


Let me see if I’m doing this right:

1. Be in any mailbox view mode (a message highlighted or not), do 
not click in the Search field.
2. Press the “/“ key. This should activate the Search field 
with blinking cursor?


Absolutely nothing happens when I press “/“.



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Re: [MlMt] Searching

2017-04-17 Thread Dave C

I’ll delve into the manual later, if need be.

Just to clarify: you created a keybinding that uses “/“ to activate 
the search field? Does your keybinding also determine the default 
mailbox to search?


Dave

-=-=-=-


https://manual.mailmate-app.com/custom_key_bindings

On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:08, Dave C wrote:

Which means… what? It’s a macro? Keyboard shortcut? (Don’t know 
what keybindings are…)


Are these MM shortcuts, or outside MM?

Dave

-=-=-=-

On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:05, Ralph Alvy wrote:


Oops. I see it’s in my keybindings file:

"/"   = "mailboxSearch:";

On 17 Apr 2017, at 10:59, Paul Sture wrote:


On 17 Apr 2017, at 19:56, Dave C wrote:


Let me see if I’m doing this right:

1. Be in any mailbox view mode (a message highlighted or not), do 
not click in the Search field.
2. Press the “/“ key. This should activate the Search field 
with blinking cursor?


Absolutely nothing happens when I press “/“.



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Re: [MlMt] Searching

2017-04-17 Thread Ralph Alvy
The Default Mailbox is a setting for the Main Search Bar you can click 
on. It’s also the Search Bar called by


Opt-Cmd-F

You can set its Default Mailbox by clicking on the drop down widget in 
the left portion of that bar. None of this has anything to do with the 
Mailbox Search Bar, which is an entirely different Search Bar, called by


Ctrl-Opt-Cmd-F

The latter works on the Current MailBox, whatever that is at the moment, 
not necessarily the Default Mailbox. I just happen to have a special 
single key that calls that box:


\


On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:36, Dave C wrote:


I’ll delve into the manual later, if need be.

Just to clarify: you created a keybinding that uses “/“ to 
activate the search field? Does your keybinding also determine the 
default mailbox to search?


Dave

-=-=-=-


https://manual.mailmate-app.com/custom_key_bindings

On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:08, Dave C wrote:

Which means… what? It’s a macro? Keyboard shortcut? (Don’t 
know what keybindings are…)


Are these MM shortcuts, or outside MM?

Dave

-=-=-=-

On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:05, Ralph Alvy wrote:


Oops. I see it’s in my keybindings file:

"/"   = "mailboxSearch:";

On 17 Apr 2017, at 10:59, Paul Sture wrote:


On 17 Apr 2017, at 19:56, Dave C wrote:


Let me see if I’m doing this right:

1. Be in any mailbox view mode (a message highlighted or not), do 
not click in the Search field.
2. Press the “/“ key. This should activate the Search field 
with blinking cursor?


Absolutely nothing happens when I press “/“.



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Re: [MlMt] Searching

2017-04-17 Thread Ralph Alvy

Correction: that special key is forward slash, not back slash.

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On April 17, 2017 12:12:43 PM "Ralph Alvy"  wrote:


The Default Mailbox is a setting for the Main Search Bar you can click
on. It’s also the Search Bar called by

Opt-Cmd-F

You can set its Default Mailbox by clicking on the drop down widget in
the left portion of that bar. None of this has anything to do with the
Mailbox Search Bar, which is an entirely different Search Bar, called by

Ctrl-Opt-Cmd-F

The latter works on the Current MailBox, whatever that is at the moment,
not necessarily the Default Mailbox. I just happen to have a special
single key that calls that box:

\


On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:36, Dave C wrote:


I’ll delve into the manual later, if need be.

Just to clarify: you created a keybinding that uses “/“ to
activate the search field? Does your keybinding also determine the
default mailbox to search?

Dave

-=-=-=-


https://manual.mailmate-app.com/custom_key_bindings

On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:08, Dave C wrote:


Which means… what? It’s a macro? Keyboard shortcut? (Don’t
know what keybindings are…)

Are these MM shortcuts, or outside MM?

Dave

-=-=-=-

On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:05, Ralph Alvy wrote:


Oops. I see it’s in my keybindings file:

"/"   = "mailboxSearch:";

On 17 Apr 2017, at 10:59, Paul Sture wrote:


On 17 Apr 2017, at 19:56, Dave C wrote:


Let me see if I’m doing this right:

1. Be in any mailbox view mode (a message highlighted or not), do
not click in the Search field.
2. Press the “/“ key. This should activate the Search field
with blinking cursor?

Absolutely nothing happens when I press “/“.



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Re: [MlMt] Searching

2017-04-17 Thread Dave C
Thanks Ralph! I selected “Current Mailbox” using the method you 
describe.


And anyone can get to the Search field by pressing Tab a couple of 
times…


Cheers,
Dave

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The Default Mailbox is a setting for the Main Search Bar you can click 
on. It’s also the Search Bar called by


Opt-Cmd-F

You can set its Default Mailbox by clicking on the drop down widget in 
the left portion of that bar. None of this has anything to do with the 
Mailbox Search Bar, which is an entirely different Search Bar, called 
by


Ctrl-Opt-Cmd-F

The latter works on the Current MailBox, whatever that is at the 
moment, not necessarily the Default Mailbox. I just happen to have a 
special single key that calls that box:


\


On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:36, Dave C wrote:


I’ll delve into the manual later, if need be.

Just to clarify: you created a keybinding that uses “/“ to 
activate the search field? Does your keybinding also determine the 
default mailbox to search?


Dave

-=-=-=-


https://manual.mailmate-app.com/custom_key_bindings

On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:08, Dave C wrote:

Which means… what? It’s a macro? Keyboard shortcut? (Don’t 
know what keybindings are…)


Are these MM shortcuts, or outside MM?

Dave

-=-=-=-

On 17 Apr 2017, at 11:05, Ralph Alvy wrote:


Oops. I see it’s in my keybindings file:

"/"   = "mailboxSearch:";

On 17 Apr 2017, at 10:59, Paul Sture wrote:


On 17 Apr 2017, at 19:56, Dave C wrote:


Let me see if I’m doing this right:

1. Be in any mailbox view mode (a message highlighted or not), 
do not click in the Search field.
2. Press the “/“ key. This should activate the Search field 
with blinking cursor?


Absolutely nothing happens when I press “/“.



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Re: [MlMt] searching Mailmate Archives

2020-02-01 Thread Annamarie Pluhar

Hi,
Welcome. There is a search 
[here](https://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate@lists.freron.com/).



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On 1 Feb 2020, at 12:36, Pierre Grenier wrote:

hellø group… yep; i’m a newbie !! Learning everything from 
scratch, but willing to put time/effort to it… As i’m expanding my 
horizons, it would be really helpful for me to easily search 
Mailmate’s mailman archives. As it is (as i visualize it on my 
browser) the archive is listed per month, and i then/thus must look at 
every entry hierarchically. Surely there is a search function 
somewhere ???   thanks ahead, for pointing me in the right 
direction…

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Re: [MlMt] Searching by Content-Type.

2015-02-18 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 18 Feb 2015, at 1:41, Scott A. McIntyre wrote:


What's the best way to search my messages for:

Content-Type: text/calendar; charset="utf-8"; method=REQUEST

Or

Content-Type: text/calendar; charset="utf-8"; method=CANCEL

(or any other method)

I'm trying to find all messages which contain meeting invitations.  
Most seem to appear as "Attachment.ics" in MailMate, but I can't seem 
to get the search for calendar entries to work for any of the 
Content-Type search options...


When searching for a specific `Content-Type` in a *subpart* of a message 
then you must enable “All Body Parts” in the comparison popup menu. 
Then I believe it should work for you. (MailMate could/should be better 
at enabling it by default for typical subpart headers.)


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Re: [MlMt] Searching in Subject line

2015-08-26 Thread John Cooper
Are you searching for [MIMt] instead of [MlMt]? Below, you've written 
MIMt, with a capital I.


Re your second question, you can set up a rule (an experimental feature) 
or a smart mailbox that contains only messages from this list.


On 2015-08-26 07:11, Enrico Thierbach wrote:

Hi everyone,

if I try to filter all messages from the mailmate mailing list via
searching for “[MIMt]” this doesn’t work and does not show any
message. If I do the same with other mailing lists the same works (for
example searching for “[SHÄRE Ops]”. What is going on there?

In a somewhat related issue: is there a way to move incoming messages
that belong to the MIMt mailing list into a separate folder - so that
they no longer appear in the Inbox folder?

Thanks,
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Re: [MlMt] Searching in Subject line

2015-08-26 Thread Enrico Thierbach



On 26 Aug 2015, at 16:32, John Cooper wrote:

Are you searching for [MIMt] instead of [MlMt]? Below, you've written 
MIMt, with a capital I.


I am searching “[MIMt]”.

Re your second question, you can set up a rule (an experimental 
feature) or a smart mailbox that contains only messages from this 
list.


This I understand. What I would like to see is mailing list messages not 
appear in my Inbox, i.e. automatically archived or such.


Thanks,
/eno



On 2015-08-26 07:11, Enrico Thierbach wrote:

Hi everyone,

if I try to filter all messages from the mailmate mailing list via
searching for “[MIMt]” this doesn’t work and does not show any
message. If I do the same with other mailing lists the same works 
(for

example searching for “[SHÄRE Ops]”. What is going on there?

In a somewhat related issue: is there a way to move incoming messages
that belong to the MIMt mailing list into a separate folder - so that
they no longer appear in the Inbox folder?

Thanks,
/eno
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Re: [MlMt] Searching in Subject line

2015-08-26 Thread Thomas Eckhold
Due to the fact that the to-header contains "MailMate Users" 
 why not a rule based on this header?


--Thomas



On 26 Aug 2015, at 16:45, Enrico Thierbach wrote:

This I understand. What I would like to see is mailing list messages 
not appear in my Inbox, i.e. automatically archived or such.

Thanks,
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Re: [MlMt] Searching in Subject line

2015-08-26 Thread Thomas Eckhold
Due to the fact that the to-header contains "MailMate Users" 
 why not a rule based on this header?


--Thomas


On 26 Aug 2015, at 16:45, Enrico Thierbach wrote:


On 26 Aug 2015, at 16:32, John Cooper wrote:


This I understand. What I would like to see is mailing list messages 
not appear in my Inbox, i.e. automatically archived or such.


Thanks,
/eno


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Re: [MlMt] Searching in Subject line

2015-08-26 Thread Bill Cole

On 26 Aug 2015, at 10:45, Enrico Thierbach wrote:


On 26 Aug 2015, at 16:32, John Cooper wrote:


Are you searching for [MIMt] instead of [MlMt]? Below, you've written 
MIMt, with a capital I.



I am searching “[MIMt]”.


Which SHOULD answer your question. The Subject tag for this list is 
[MlMt] so when you search for [MIMt] you will not find messages from 
this list.


(And if those look identical to you, try a different font...)
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Re: [MlMt] Searching in Subject line

2015-08-26 Thread Enrico Thierbach
Are you searching for [MIMt] instead of [MlMt]? Below, you've 
written MIMt, with a capital I.



I am searching “[MIMt]”.


Which SHOULD answer your question. The Subject tag for this list is 
[MlMt] so when you search for [MIMt] you will not find messages from 
this list.


oh my! Yes, MlMt works (and without the following:


(And if those look identical to you, try a different font...)


I would have failed again)

Thx,
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Re: [MlMt] Searching in Subject line

2015-08-26 Thread Mike Brasch

On 26 Aug 2015, at 17:06, Thomas Eckhold wrote:

Due to the fact that the to-header contains "MailMate Users" 
 why not a rule based on this header?


There is also the List-Id header (mailmate.lists.freron.com).

This type of static regular postal sorting should better take place on 
the IMAP server. That way all devices will benefit without the need of 
the running sorting mail client.


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Re: [MlMt] Searching in Subject line

2015-08-26 Thread Mike Brasch
I forgot: The IMAP sorts all mailing lists by list-id (and in case of 
two lists by to-header) into subfolders of "Mailinglisten".


In MailMate I have defined a smartfolder which builds subfolders by the 
list name part of the IMAP folder (because of the two lists):


${#source.path.noinbox/Mailinglisten\///}

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Re: [MlMt] Searching in Subject line

2015-08-26 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 26 Aug 2015, at 16:45, Enrico Thierbach wrote:

This I understand. What I would like to see is mailing list messages 
not appear in my Inbox, i.e. automatically archived or such.


One general trick is as follows:

* Create an IMAP mailbox (under SOURCES in the mailbox outline), e.g., 
named “Mailing Lists”.

* Move at least 1 mailing list message into this mailbox.
* Add a rule to your Inbox which says:

		Condition: From ▸ Address “is in” [Mailing Lists] From ▸ 
Address

Action: Move to “Mailing Lists”

The idea is that any email you move manually to this mailbox is going to 
result in any future message from the same sender to be automatically 
moved to the mailbox.


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Re: [MlMt] Searching for mp3 attachments

2019-03-24 Thread Robert Brenstein
One of the standard examples of smart mailboxes is to find all mails 
with graphic files attached and another example for PDF files attached. 
May be that can help you.


On 25 Mar 2019, at 1:58, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:

I'm trying to find any mp3 files I've been mailed, without success. 
Google showed me this:


https://lists.freron.com/mailmate/2015-February/003892.html

but it doesn't help me. I don't see any option "All Body Parts" in the 
comparison menu,
and searching within the "All Message Subparts" mailbox doesn't work 
for, say, PDFs,

which I know I've received.

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Re: [MlMt] Searching for mp3 attachments

2019-03-24 Thread Richard Rettke
I am able to find all emails with an attached .mp3 file by by entering 
in the search field (top right of the MailMate window)  the following…


**A .mp3**

which is a Capital 'A' followed by a space followed by '.mp3'

Have you tried that?

On 24 Mar 2019, at 19:58, Steven M. Bellovin s...@cs.columbia.edu  wrote:

I'm trying to find any mp3 files I've been mailed, without success. 
Google showed me this:


https://lists.freron.com/mailmate/2015-February/003892.html

but it doesn't help me. I don't see any option "All Body Parts" in the 
comparison menu,
and searching within the "All Message Subparts" mailbox doesn't work 
for, say, PDFs,

which I know I've received.


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Re: [MlMt] Searching for mp3 attachments

2019-03-25 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
Thanks; that did it. Better yet, when I looked at the details of the 
search, I saw that there
is a menu item—which I had overlooked!—for "Filename", which lets me 
create smart
mailboxes and complex searches for it. (I had been try 
Content-Type|Filename, which

I could not get to work.)

On 24 Mar 2019, at 22:34, Richard Rettke wrote:

I am able to find all emails with an attached .mp3 file by by entering 
in the search field (top right of the MailMate window)  the 
following…


**A .mp3**

which is a Capital 'A' followed by a space followed by '.mp3'

Have you tried that?

On 24 Mar 2019, at 19:58, Steven M. Bellovin s...@cs.columbia.edu  
wrote:


I'm trying to find any mp3 files I've been mailed, without success. 
Google showed me this:


https://lists.freron.com/mailmate/2015-February/003892.html

but it doesn't help me. I don't see any option "All Body Parts" in 
the comparison menu,
and searching within the "All Message Subparts" mailbox doesn't work 
for, say, PDFs,

which I know I've received.


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Re: [MlMt] Searching on attachment filenames

2022-06-01 Thread i...@techworkspro.com
To be honest Glenn, my usual search is by sender name, which seems mostly 
successful, so far. My typical search method is typing in MM. Searching the 
browser pane. 

Items returned show in All Messages. 

When I have a chance, will try to replicate what you attempted (search for a 
file type, “.ics”) or other. 

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> On Jun 1, 2022, at 10:56, Glenn Parker  wrote:
> 
> 
> Is anyone else able to get reliable search results on attachment filenames in 
> MailMate?
> 
> I have an IMAP folder that contains some messages with an attached file 
> called “Attachment.ics” (standard Zoom calendar invite).
> 
> If I just search for “A ics”, I only see messages from year 2020 and earlier. 
> I verified that I have messages from year 2022 with an “Attachment.ics” 
> attached file.
> 
> I tried rebuilding my entire message database, but I still get the same 
> results. Is this maybe a problem with searching on filename extensions versus 
> the main filename?
> 
> Using Edit > Find > Mailbox Search… was even worse. I enabled 
> “Attachment-Name” as a search option, but I get zero messages no matter what 
> I search for.
> 
> NB: I already sent a separate email about this using the Send Feedback… 
> option, but I wanted to check with others, too.
> 
> Glenn P. Parker 
> glenn.par...@comcast.net
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Re: [MlMt] Searching on attachment filenames

2022-06-02 Thread Marc ARC

Glenn,

I haven’t been able to obtain any results with the use of 
Attachments-Name


But “A search_phrase” does give me a result and this translates in 
the search details to “Filename contains search_phrase”


I performed my tests with r5898


Regards,



Marc




On 1 Jun 2022, at 16:55, Glenn Parker wrote:

Is anyone else able to get reliable search results on attachment 
filenames in MailMate?


I have an IMAP folder that contains some messages with an attached 
file called “Attachment.ics” (standard Zoom calendar invite).


If I just search for “A ics”, I only see messages from year 2020 
and earlier. I verified that I have messages from year 2022 with an 
“Attachment.ics” attached file.


I tried rebuilding my entire message database, but I still get the 
same results. Is this maybe a problem with searching on filename 
extensions versus the main filename?


Using Edit > Find > Mailbox Search… was even worse. I enabled 
“Attachment-Name” as a search option, but I get zero messages no 
matter what I search for.


NB: I already sent a separate email about this using the Send 
Feedback… option, but I wanted to check with others, too.


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Re: [MlMt] Searching on attachment filenames

2022-06-02 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 1 Jun 2022, at 16:49, Glenn Parker wrote:

If I just search for “A ics”, I *only* see messages from year 2020 
and earlier.


It's better to use `A .ics` to avoid attachments which happen to include 
`ics` in its name.


I verified that I have messages from year 2022 with an 
“Attachment.ics” attached file.


If possible, send me an example via “Help ▸ Send Feedback”. You 
can also use “View ▸ Show Raw Message” and locate the 
`Content-Disposition` header and the `Content-Type` header of the 
calendar attachment. These are likely all I need to figure out why this 
happens.


There might be an issue with MailMate not looking at some specific 
variant of specifying the filename. The filename indicates that MailMate 
could not find the name (or there is no name) and gave it a default name 
of `Attachment.ics` based on its MIME type. In that case, it's hard to 
search for. I think maybe this would work:


Content-Type ▸ Subtype is “calendar”

For which you need to enable the “All body parts” check mark for the 
“is” comparison method.


I'm not saying that this shouldn't be easier :) For example, when using 
the `A` search MailMate should (to be intuitive) somehow also search the 
name which is generated for display.


I tried rebuilding my entire message database, but I still get the 
same results. Is this maybe a problem with searching on filename 
extensions versus the main filename?


No, I don't believe it is.

P.S. I’m wondering if rebuilding the message index could be faster? 
I didn’t really need to re-download every message, I just wanted to 
rebuild the indexes, but the MailMate Help only suggested the 
.rebuild.tmp method, which forced a complete message refresh.


That “trick” should not trigger re-downloading emails, but it could 
certainly work better. In general, rebuilding should not be needed 
unless MailMate detects an issue itself. I'm afraid it's used far too 
often in an attempt to fix unrelated issues (not that this particular 
issue could not somehow have been related).


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Re: [MlMt] Searching on attachment filenames

2022-06-02 Thread Charlie Clark
On 1 Jun 2022, at 16:55, Glenn Parker wrote:

> Is anyone else able to get reliable search results on attachment filenames in 
> MailMate?
>
> I have an IMAP folder that contains some messages with an attached file 
> called “Attachment.ics” (standard Zoom calendar invite).
>
> If I just search for “A ics”, I only see messages from year 2020 and earlier. 
> I verified that I have messages from year 2022 with an “Attachment.ics” 
> attached file.
>
> I tried rebuilding my entire message database, but I still get the same 
> results. Is this maybe a problem with searching on filename extensions versus 
> the main filename?
>
> Using Edit > Find > Mailbox Search… was even worse. I enabled 
> “Attachment-Name” as a search option, but I get zero messages no matter what 
> I search for.
>
> NB: I already sent a separate email about this using the Send Feedback… 
> option, but I wanted to check with others, too.

Working fine here.

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Re: [MlMt] Searching for text of URL links

2019-03-15 Thread Chris Newman
The IMAP standard requires implementation of a pure substring search, 
but in practice most search indexing software toolkits only do 
word-based search and don't support efficient substring search (most can 
do reasonably efficient prefix search but not efficient suffix search). 
So particularly for body searches, you need to search for a substring 
that counts as a word to whatever indexing software is used on the IMAP 
server you're using. Also search for a stop word (e.g., 'and') may not 
work either (not indexing those words reduces index size). The IMAP 
server I work on can either do IMAP compliant search brute-force or do 
word-based indexed body search quickly and it's up to the server admin 
to choose which to use. Given that many clients do body search by 
default now, most admins of larger sites choose to use the indexed 
word-based search.


While it's possible to implement efficient indexed pure substring 
search, that requires a significantly larger search index than 
word-based search technologies, and it's not clear "free" email services 
would be willing to pay for that extra storage when they can just ignore 
the standard and provide word-based search cheaper (and I don't recall 
being asked to provide such a feature by any customer).


Also search indexing software is likely to drop any markup. So if the 
URL is an HTML link rather than actually in the text of the message, it 
may not be indexed (or searchable) at all.


- Chris

On 15 Mar 2019, at 10:33, Ted Lesley wrote:

I must be missing something, I’m trying to search for the text of 
links in mail messages and they don’t come up when I search for part 
of the URL (domain, string in link, etc.)


What am I missing? Thanks for any help.
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Re: [MlMt] Searching for text of URL links

2019-03-15 Thread Randall Gellens

On 15 Mar 2019, at 14:05, Chris Newman wrote:

The IMAP standard requires implementation of a pure substring search, 
but in practice most search indexing software toolkits only do 
word-based search and don't support efficient substring search (most 
can do reasonably efficient prefix search but not efficient suffix 
search). So particularly for body searches, you need to search for a 
substring that counts as a word to whatever indexing software is used 
on the IMAP server you're using. Also search for a stop word (e.g., 
'and') may not work either (not indexing those words reduces index 
size). The IMAP server I work on can either do IMAP compliant search 
brute-force or do word-based indexed body search quickly and it's up 
to the server admin to choose which to use. Given that many clients do 
body search by default now, most admins of larger sites choose to use 
the indexed word-based search.


While it's possible to implement efficient indexed pure substring 
search, that requires a significantly larger search index than 
word-based search technologies, and it's not clear "free" email 
services would be willing to pay for that extra storage when they can 
just ignore the standard and provide word-based search cheaper (and I 
don't recall being asked to provide such a feature by any customer).


Also search indexing software is likely to drop any markup. So if the 
URL is an HTML link rather than actually in the text of the message, 
it may not be indexed (or searchable) at all.



All good points.  Note that MailMate indexes the local store (which I 
believe contains everything in all subscribed or accessed mailboxes), so 
in this case it's likely that the search was done by MailMate itself 
rather than the server.  Probably whatever MailMate uses for indexing is 
word-based.


I've often had difficulty finding messages using the search bar, but 
doing an Edit -> Find -> Mailbox Search has worked for me when the 
search bar has failed, which I chalk up to not fully understanding what 
how the search bar works.


--Randall




On 15 Mar 2019, at 10:33, Ted Lesley wrote:

I must be missing something, I’m trying to search for the text of 
links in mail messages and they don’t come up when I search for 
part of the URL (domain, string in link, etc.)


What am I missing? Thanks for any help.
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Re: [MlMt] Searching for text of URL links

2019-03-15 Thread Bill Cole

On 15 Mar 2019, at 17:05, Chris Newman wrote:

The IMAP standard requires implementation of a pure substring search, 
but in practice most search indexing software toolkits only do 
word-based search and don't support efficient substring search (most 
can do reasonably efficient prefix search but not efficient suffix 
search). So particularly for body searches, you need to search for a 
substring that counts as a word to whatever indexing software is used 
on the IMAP server you're using. Also search for a stop word (e.g., 
'and') may not work either (not indexing those words reduces index 
size). The IMAP server I work on can either do IMAP compliant search 
brute-force or do word-based indexed body search quickly and it's up 
to the server admin to choose which to use. Given that many clients do 
body search by default now, most admins of larger sites choose to use 
the indexed word-based search.


All true but not really relevant for MailMate users.

MailMate's search is entirely client-side, using a custom index in 
~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Database.noindex/ which is also 
what makes the "Smart Folder" feature possible.


While it's possible to implement efficient indexed pure substring 
search, that requires a significantly larger search index than 
word-based search technologies, and it's not clear "free" email 
services would be willing to pay for that extra storage when they can 
just ignore the standard and provide word-based search cheaper (and I 
don't recall being asked to provide such a feature by any customer).


Also search indexing software is likely to drop any markup. So if the 
URL is an HTML link rather than actually in the text of the message, 
it may not be indexed (or searchable) at all.


Testing confirms that MM will find arbitrary substrings of URLs which 
are in plain text mail or in the content text of HTML mail but will NOT 
find any part of URL's that only exist in markup (i.e. href=) values.




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Re: [MlMt] Searching for text of URL links

2019-03-15 Thread John Cooper

Chris Newman wrote (at 14:05 on 15 Mar 2019):

The IMAP standard requires implementation of a pure substring search, 
but in practice most search indexing software toolkits only do 
word-based search and don't support efficient substring search (most 
can do reasonably efficient prefix search but not efficient suffix 
search). So particularly for body searches, you need to search for a 
substring that counts as a word to whatever indexing software is used 
on the IMAP server you're using.


Doesn't MailMate search the local repository instead of the IMAP server? 
I would think that if you're searching local files, you should be able 
to use any search toolkit you like.

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Re: [MlMt] Searching for text of URL links

2019-03-16 Thread Dave C
...
> Also search indexing software is likely to drop any markup. So if the URL is 
> an HTML link rather than actually in the text of the message, it may not be 
> indexed (or searchable) at all.
> 
>- Chris


Thank you Chris for the education. Very informative.

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Re: [MlMt] searching with the Message Outline contextual menu

2016-06-25 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 16 Jun 2016, at 17:57, Shoshanna Green wrote:

The contextual menu does offer the option to search for messages "to 
mary...@example.com," but not "correspondent mary...@example.com." I'd 
like to be able to search on the email address, which is invariant, 
rather than on the name, which varies.


I don't recall why I left that out. I'll make sure it's added. (A 
general problem though is that the correspondent-functionality can be 
slow when applied to “All Messages”.)


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Re: [MlMt] searching with the Message Outline contextual menu

2016-06-25 Thread Shoshanna Green

On 17 Jun 2016, at 14:39, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 16 Jun 2016, at 17:57, Shoshanna Green wrote:

The contextual menu does offer the option to search for messages "to 
mary...@example.com," but not "correspondent mary...@example.com." 
I'd like to be able to search on the email address, which is 
invariant, rather than on the name, which varies.


I don't recall why I left that out. I'll make sure it's added.


Great, thank you!

(A general problem though is that the correspondent-functionality can 
be slow when applied to “All Messages”.)


Fair enough; I expect it's computationally expensive. I have no folders 
with more than 7,000 messages and never use the "All Messages" folder, 
so I'm not worried!


Shoshanna Green
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Re: [MlMt] Searching and reading thread of found email

2018-04-19 Thread Zvi Biener
This layout view is a hatchet job, but it works. For each selected 
message, it brings automatically brings up both the thread and all 
correspondence with the correspondent. Just be sure to set the font 
small enough on the thread and correspondence windows, select the 
columns that make sense (for the correspondence, I use subject and date; 
and for thread, I use from and date). It doesn't clear the search field, 
like you wanted, but it does give you immediate access to the info you 
need, without messing with the from field.


Z

On 19 Apr 2018, at 15:43, Filip Stokkeland wrote:


Hi!
When I search and find an interesting message, I'd like to read the 
other emails in that thread.
But if I clear the search field, the email I found and had selected, 
it disappears.
... Something obvious I'm missing? How can I just jump to the thread 
of the selected email, clearing the search?


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{
name = "Three Panes + Corr + Thread";
rootViewer =
{
viewerType = "MmSplitView";
orientation = "horizontal";
children =
(
{
viewerType = "MmSplitView";
orientation = "vertical";

collapsibleSubview = 2; // Incomplete support 
-- no way to get it back (1 = first, 2 = last)

children =
(
{
viewerType = "MmBoxView";
orientation = "vertical";
toggleMenuTitle = "Mailboxes";
toggleKeyEquivalent = "^~@d";


children =
(
{
viewerType = 
"MmMailboxesStatusBar";
},
{
identifier = 
"mailboxesOutline";
viewerType = 
"MmMailboxesOutlineView";
stickyMessages 
= 1;
},


);
},  
{
  identifier = "ThreadAndCorrSplit";
  viewerType = "MmSplitView";
  orientation = "vertical";
  // is this the panel that gets shrunk?
  collapsibleSubview = 2; // Incomplete support -- no 
way to get it back (1 = first, 2 = last) 
  children =
  (
  // ### Correspondence panel (Label + msgoutline 
must be contained by a MmBoxView)
  {
viewerType = "MmBoxView";
children = 
(
  {
viewerType = "MmLabelView";
label = "Correspondence";
  },
  { viewerType = "MmSeparatorView"; },
  {
identifier = "correspondenceOutline";

userDefaultsIdentifier = "CorrespondenceOutline";
viewerType = "MmMessagesOutlineView";
minWidth = 100;

sources = ( { sourceIdentifier = 
"mainOutline"; } );
selectionSources = ( { sourceIdentifier = 
"threadOutline"; } );

// Correspondence participation is when 
both the sender 
// and the recipient of the message(s) 
selected in the 
// in main (top) message list are either 
the sender or
// a recipient. I.e. both can be recipients.
transformation = "$ALL_MESSAGES.filter( 
(#any-address.address = $mainOutline.to.address o

Re: [MlMt] Searching and reading thread of found email

2018-04-20 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen


you can also use `View > Layout > Threaded` that does similar but is 
builtin.


It will show the message and mails with same thread id or subject.

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On 19 Apr 2018, at 22:02, Zvi Biener wrote:

This layout view is a hatchet job, but it works. For each selected 
message, it brings automatically brings up both the thread and all 
correspondence with the correspondent. Just be sure to set the font 
small enough on the thread and correspondence windows, select the 
columns that make sense (for the correspondence, I use subject and 
date; and for thread, I use from and date). It doesn't clear the 
search field, like you wanted, but it does give you immediate access 
to the info you need, without messing with the from field.


Z

On 19 Apr 2018, at 15:43, Filip Stokkeland wrote:


Hi!
When I search and find an interesting message, I'd like to read the 
other emails in that thread.
But if I clear the search field, the email I found and had selected, 
it disappears.
... Something obvious I'm missing? How can I just jump to the thread 
of the selected email, clearing the search?


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Re: [MlMt] Searching and reading thread of found email

2018-04-20 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 19 Apr 2018, at 21:43, Filip Stokkeland wrote:

When I search and find an interesting message, I'd like to read the 
other emails in that thread.
But if I clear the search field, the email I found and had selected, 
it disappears.
... Something obvious I'm missing? How can I just jump to the thread 
of the selected email, clearing the search?


You can click the Thread button and then remove the previous search 
item(s) by ⌥-clicking them or use the context sensitive menu to 
“Remove Search Item”.



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Re: [MlMt] Searching and reading thread of found email

2018-04-20 Thread Eric Sharakan
FWIW I'm not seeing this behavior.  Whenever I'm in a search, any 
message I select remains selected when I dismiss the search.  This is 
with 1.11.1 of MailMate and using the escape key to dismiss the search.


Perhaps there's a hidden preference controlling this?

-Eric

On 19 Apr 2018, at 15:43, Filip Stokkeland wrote:


Hi!
When I search and find an interesting message, I'd like to read the 
other emails in that thread.
But if I clear the search field, the email I found and had selected, 
it disappears.
... Something obvious I'm missing? How can I just jump to the thread 
of the selected email, clearing the search?


Mailmate rocks! :)
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Re: [MlMt] Searching and reading thread of found email

2018-04-20 Thread Filip Stokkeland

Hi again! :)

On 20 Apr 2018, at 15:26, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
When I search and find an interesting message, I'd like to read the 
other emails in that thread.
But if I clear the search field, the email I found and had selected, 
it disappears.
... Something obvious I'm missing? How can I just jump to the thread 
of the selected email, clearing the search?


You can click the Thread button and then remove the previous search 
item(s) by ⌥-clicking them or use the context sensitive menu to 
“Remove Search Item”.


Not sure I understood completely, but I right-clicked and selected "Go 
to Source", that seems to do the trick, opens the thread in a new 
Mailmate window.

(Layout > Correspondence is also very nice.)

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Re: [MlMt] Searching and reading thread of found email

2018-04-21 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 20 Apr 2018, at 16:53, Filip Stokkeland wrote:

You can click the Thread button and then remove the previous search 
item(s) by ⌥-clicking them or use the context sensitive menu to 
“Remove Search Item”.


Not sure I understood completely, but I right-clicked and selected "Go 
to Source", that seems to do the trick, opens the thread in a new 
Mailmate window.

(Layout > Correspondence is also very nice.)


This is what I meant:

![](cid:3A5CE5AF-4CA2-4538-9076-C6BD1D2C4BA2@freron.com 
"PastedImage.png")


That is shown if you right-click over a “search item”. A shortcut is 
to hold down ⌥ when left-clicking a search item. That way you can 
remove the part which is not the thread search.


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