Re: [MlMt] auto-BCC the From address fails on one address of three

2018-12-09 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 8 Dec 2018, at 17:04, Shoshanna Green wrote:

However, when I select the third From address from the pop-up menu, 
the BCC doesn't change, although the signature does.


Any ideas? (I'm running r5574. I just noticed this today when I 
updated, because I was playing with the new From pop-up; I don't know 
if it was a problem before.)


Given the work I've done on code related to this I would say it's most 
likely a new bug, but just to make sure you should try an older release 
like this one: 
https://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/MailMate_r5523.tbz


In any case, see if you can spot anything which might make this third 
account different than the others (a quick attempt to reproduce your 
issue didn't succeed -- the Bcc header updates when I change the From 
header).


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Re: [MlMt] auto-BCC the From address fails on one address of three

2018-12-10 Thread Shoshanna Green
Got it! The problem is definitely new since r5523 (thanks for the link 
to that older version, Benny), and it's connected to the problem account 
having only one name in the "Full Name" field: that is, the account 
looks like "Shoshanna " rather than "Shoshanna 
Green ".


I tested by editing the account to make it "Shoshanna Test 
", quit and restarted MailMate, and the BCC address 
updated as it ought to. Edited the account again to remove the fake 
surname, quit and restarted, and it's back to failing.


I hope that narrows it down enough to allow an easy fix!

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Re: [MlMt] auto-BCC the From address fails on one address of three

2018-12-11 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 10 Dec 2018, at 18:06, Shoshanna Green wrote:

... it's connected to the problem account having only one name in the 
"Full Name" field: that is, the account looks like "Shoshanna 
" rather than "Shoshanna Green 
".

...
I hope that narrows it down enough to allow an easy fix!


Good catch. Turns out that it kind of only worked most of the time by 
accident. It's fixed in the next update.


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Re: [MlMt] auto-BCC the From address fails on one address of three

2018-12-20 Thread Shoshanna Green

On 11 Dec 2018, at 5:49, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

Good catch. Turns out that it kind of only worked most of the time by 
accident. It's fixed in the next update.


Sadly, now it's failing again, in a different pattern that I have not 
been able to work out. But just now, in composing a message, I switched 
the sending account from one to another, both of which do have my first 
and last names on them, and the BCC address did not change accordingly. 
I've seen this several times in the last week, but as I said, I can't 
see a pattern to the problem...


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Re: [MlMt] auto-BCC the From address fails on one address of three

2019-01-11 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 20 Dec 2018, at 20:09, Shoshanna Green wrote:


On 11 Dec 2018, at 5:49, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

Good catch. Turns out that it kind of only worked most of the time by 
accident. It's fixed in the next update.


Sadly, now it's failing again, in a different pattern that I have not 
been able to work out. But just now, in composing a message, I 
switched the sending account from one to another, both of which do 
have my first and last names on them, and the BCC address did not 
change accordingly. I've seen this several times in the last week, but 
as I said, I can't see a pattern to the problem...


Have you found a pattern since then? (Does it still only happen for one 
of your accounts?)


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Re: [MlMt] auto-BCC the From address fails on one address of three

2019-01-12 Thread Shoshanna Green

On 11 Jan 2019, at 9:21, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 20 Dec 2018, at 20:09, Shoshanna Green wrote:

just now, in composing a message, I switched the sending account from 
one to another, both of which do have my first and last names on 
them, and the BCC address did not change accordingly. I've seen this 
several times in the last week, but as I said, I can't see a pattern 
to the problem...


Have you found a pattern since then? (Does it still only happen for 
one of your accounts?)


It's complex! But I did just manage to deliberately trigger it.

I opened a composer window from the inbox of a Gmail account, and 
entered as the recipient someone I had most recently written to from a 
non-Gmail account. As soon as I hit tab to move to the next header 
field, MailMate correctly changed both the sending identity and the BCC 
address from the Gmail one to the non-Gmail one.


I hit tab a couple of times to move the cursor into the message body. 
Then I changed the sending identity back to the Gmail account. The BCC 
address did not change. This has been fully reproducible across the 
dozens of times I've tested it, including changing the sending identity 
to two different Gmail accounts. (It may be the *only* case that has 
been fully reproducible so far; and there are so many variables that I 
still wouldn't put my life on its being 100% perfectly consistent...)


Tabbing only as far as the subject line before changing the sending 
identity sometimes, but not always, meant that the BCC address did not 
change to match the new sending identity.


If I clicked to put the cursor into the message body (rather than 
tabbing) and then changed the sending identity, the BCC address usually 
correctly changed, but sometimes didn't.


Starting again in the inbox of a Gmail account, I composed a message to 
a recipient to whom I've most recently written from that same account. 
When I tabbed into the message body and then changed the sending 
identity to either a different Gmail account or to the non-Gmail 
account, the BCC address did correctly change. I haven't tested this 
variation as many times, though.


Starting in the inbox of the non-Gmail account, I opened a composer 
window and entered as the recipient someone to whom I had most recently 
written from a Gmail account. As soon as I hit tab to move to the next 
header field, MailMate correctly changed both the sending identity and 
the BCC address from the non-Gmail one to the Gmail one. I tabbed into 
the message body and then changed the sending identity, and the BCC 
address failed to change to match it. However, if I tabbed only as far 
as the subject line, and then changed the sending identity, the BCC 
address did change to match; and if I then tabbed from there into the 
message body and changed the sending identity again, the BCC address 
again changed to match. Moreover, I just tried to reproduce this, and 
this time when I tabbed only as far as the subject line and then changed 
the sending identity, the BCC address did *not* change to match it.


You can see how complex this is! Also I have no idea whether the fact 
that I keep coming back to this composer window to add updates, between 
all the opening of other composer windows and changing of sending 
identities, is affecting anything.


So, uh, I hope this helps narrow the problem down?

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Re: [MlMt] auto-BCC the From address fails on one address of three

2019-01-16 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 12 Jan 2019, at 14:51, Shoshanna Green wrote:


On 11 Jan 2019, at 9:21, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

Have you found a pattern since then? (Does it still only happen for 
one of your accounts?)


It's complex! But I did just manage to deliberately trigger it.


I'm pretty sure I found the bug based on your description. The trigger 
was to first change the From header and then tab past the Bcc header. 
This would put MailMate into a state where subsequent changes of the 
From header would fail to update the Bcc header.


Thanks for your patience.

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Re: [MlMt] auto-BCC the From address fails on one address of three

2019-01-16 Thread Shoshanna Green

On 16 Jan 2019, at 5:02, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 12 Jan 2019, at 14:51, Shoshanna Green wrote:


It's complex! But I did just manage to deliberately trigger it.


I'm pretty sure I found the bug based on your description.


Huzzah! My description felt to me like a cacophonous mess, so I'm glad 
to hear it was helpful.


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Re: [MlMt] auto-BCC the From address fails on one address of three

2019-01-16 Thread Shoshanna Green

On 16 Jan 2019, at 5:02, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 12 Jan 2019, at 14:51, Shoshanna Green wrote:


It's complex! But I did just manage to deliberately trigger it.


I'm pretty sure I found the bug based on your description.


And I just tried the reproducible failure in the new version (5586) and 
it did not fail! Thanks for tracking this down. (And also thanks for 
MailMate's check-before-sending capacity, which was a welcome safety net 
several times while this bug was in play, as well as in many PEBKAC 
situations before and doubtless since...)


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