Re: [mailop] BIMI

[Thomas Walter via mailop]

On 05.12.19 02:20, Matt Vernhout via mailop wrote:
> Stay tuned for more info on the bimigroup.org website, we are planning to add 
> more info very soon. 

But why?

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Re: [mailop] BIMI

[Matt Vernhout via mailop]

Yes it’s a thing, Verizon (Yahoo web and Mobile) is supporting it now. Google 
has announced a pilot in 2020. VMC is not currently required at VZM, and the 
overall requirements are still being defined by the working group.

Stay tuned for more info on the bimigroup.org website, we are planning to add 
more info very soon. 

~
Matt

> On Dec 4, 2019, at 17:59, Doug Barton via mailop  wrote:
> 
> I'm starting to see requests for BIMI DNS records from clients. Is it a 
> thing yet? I'm not opposed to being an early (or early'ish) adopter, but are 
> there any caveats? Has anyone gone through the Verified Mark Certificate 
> process? Any other thoughts?
> 
> Doug
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[mailop] BIMI

[Doug Barton via mailop]

I'm starting to see requests for BIMI DNS records from clients. Is it a 
thing yet? I'm not opposed to being an early (or early'ish) adopter, but 
are there any caveats? Has anyone gone through the Verified Mark 
Certificate process? Any other thoughts?


Doug

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Re: [mailop] JMRP mixing up IP ranges

[Marc Goldman via mailop]

Thanks Al,

I cannot say enough how much I  love this group 

Marc Goldman
CEO, EM13 LLC



On December 4, 2019 at 2:45:43 PM, Al Iverson via mailop (mailop@mailop.org) 
wrote:

Hey Marc, I suggest emailing msn-s...@microsoft.com, that's the SNDS help 
address and they do respond.

Also, if you're submitting ranges larger than /24, I suggest breaking them down 
into /24s. I've had similar problems in the past -- not just with Microsoft -- 
where submitting a range larger than /24 ends up with it truncated to /24 or 
otherwise incorrectly converting the CIDR entry into IP addresses.

Good luck,
Al Iverson


On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 11:33 AM Marc Goldman via mailop  
wrote:
Hi.

Can someone from Microsoft reach out to me off list. We have a few IP ranges in 
JMRP and no matter how many times we enter information correctly, our IPs keep 
being listed incorrectly (or not at all). We have edited multiple times to no 
avail.

Not sure if its a display issue or an issue with JMRP themselves but I need 
some help here.

@Michael wise can you please assist or point us to the right people.

Thanks!

Marc Goldman
CEO, EM13 LLC


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Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: JMRP mixing up IP ranges

[Michael Wise via mailop]

What Al Said.

Aloha,
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From: mailop  On Behalf Of Al Iverson via mailop
Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 10:38 AM
To: Marc Goldman ; mailop 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [mailop] JMRP mixing up IP ranges

Hey Marc, I suggest emailing 
msn-s...@microsoft.com, that's the SNDS help 
address and they do respond.

Also, if you're submitting ranges larger than /24, I suggest breaking them down 
into /24s. I've had similar problems in the past -- not just with Microsoft -- 
where submitting a range larger than /24 ends up with it truncated to /24 or 
otherwise incorrectly converting the CIDR entry into IP addresses.

Good luck,
Al Iverson


On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 11:33 AM Marc Goldman via mailop 
mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote:
Hi.

Can someone from Microsoft reach out to me off list. We have a few IP ranges in 
JMRP and no matter how many times we enter information correctly, our IPs keep 
being listed incorrectly (or not at all). We have edited multiple times to no 
avail.

Not sure if its a display issue or an issue with JMRP themselves but I need 
some help here.

@Michael wise can you please assist or point us to the right people.

Thanks!

Marc Goldman
CEO, EM13 LLC


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Re: [mailop] JMRP mixing up IP ranges

[Al Iverson via mailop]

Hey Marc, I suggest emailing msn-s...@microsoft.com, that's the SNDS help
address and they do respond.

Also, if you're submitting ranges larger than /24, I suggest breaking them
down into /24s. I've had similar problems in the past -- not just with
Microsoft -- where submitting a range larger than /24 ends up with it
truncated to /24 or otherwise incorrectly converting the CIDR entry into IP
addresses.

Good luck,
Al Iverson


On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 11:33 AM Marc Goldman via mailop 
wrote:

> Hi.
>
> Can someone from Microsoft reach out to me off list. We have a few IP
> ranges in JMRP and no matter how many times we enter information correctly,
> our IPs keep being listed incorrectly (or not at all). We have edited
> multiple times to no avail.
>
> Not sure if its a display issue or an issue with JMRP themselves but I
> need some help here.
>
> @Michael wise can you please assist or point us to the right people.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Marc Goldman
> CEO, EM13 LLC
>
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[mailop] JMRP mixing up IP ranges

[Marc Goldman via mailop]

Hi.

Can someone from Microsoft reach out to me off list. We have a few IP ranges in 
JMRP and no matter how many times we enter information correctly, our IPs keep 
being listed incorrectly (or not at all). We have edited multiple times to no 
avail.

Not sure if its a display issue or an issue with JMRP themselves but I need 
some help here.

@Michael wise can you please assist or point us to the right people.

Thanks!

Marc Goldman
CEO, EM13 LLC


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Re: [mailop] Suggestions for VPS providers in Europe?

[Renaud Allard via mailop]

Hello,

On 12/3/19 12:59 AM, John Levine via mailop wrote:

I warned a guy away from Hetzner and OVH if he wants to send mail so he
reasonably asked what VPS provider in Europe is better for sending mail.

Any suggestions?

Also, how different is it if at OVH and Hetzner if you use their outbound
mail servers rather than trying to send directly?



You might try exoscale.com



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Re: [mailop] Suggestions for VPS providers in Europe?

[Steve Atkins via mailop]

On 02/12/2019 23:59, John Levine via mailop wrote:

I warned a guy away from Hetzner and OVH if he wants to send mail so he
reasonably asked what VPS provider in Europe is better for sending mail.

Any suggestions?


Anyone but OVH, linode, digitalocean or ec2would be a good start (for
very different reasons). Not that you can't build up a decent reputation
there, but you're starting from a fair way behind.

I've had reasonable success with ssdnodes.com and hostus.us.



Also, how different is it if at OVH and Hetzner if you use their outbound
mail servers rather than trying to send directly?


Better in some respects, worse in others, I'd imagine. For non-bulk
mail, probably significantly better.

Cheers,
  Steve


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