Re: [mailop] Gmail deferrals resolved by transit encryption
On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 02:34:19PM +, Lukas Tribus via mailop wrote: > On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 at 10:00, Jeroen via mailop wrote: > > > > > We use an MTA which supports STARTTLS, sending the message data > > > through an encrypted channel for servers which support it (like > > > Google). > > > > Thank you for enabling opportunistic STARTTLS - you've stepped up the > > game for both yourself and possible clients. However, it is not > > something that will mitigate the Gmail deferrals. We have been using > > this for years and still have deferrals every now and then. > > Two things can be true at the same time. > > The OP did not say that you will never have deferrals once you turn on > STARTTLS. > He said that he had deferrals without STARTTLS that went away with STARTTLS. > > It is definitely possible that STARTTLS influences behaviours and > limits, just as IPv4 vs IPv6 does. > > Google probably wants you to enable STARTTLS, so reducing sending > limits for non STARTTLS senders can make sense from Google's POV. > > > Lukas I've just discovered that after Dec 4 (see archive.org), Google added a table at the beginning of this page: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126 which I'll reproduce in text: Sender requirement Date added Use a TLS connection for transmitting email Dec. 2023 Keep spam rates below 0.30% Oct. 2023 If anyone haven't seen that page recently, it is worth reading and rereading. It's the single most useful page I've ever seen about sending messages to Gmail. Omar -- BIGLIST.com ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Another very strange microsoft originated email??
On Thursday 07/12/2023 at 3:21 pm, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: For the record, the command line 'whois' tool is getting long in the tooth, and the maintainer isnt' really interested in updating the tools, database.. (We offered to help) But, because I end up showing this to our own staff, a little trick.. whois 49.13.172.216 -h whois.ripe.net RIPE can be a one-stop whois -- it's pretty complete. ARIN's whois has a slightly different input format (other RIRs use RPSL format), but it generally picks the correct parameter type for a given input (if not provided). I often use "-n" (no redirect) to limit the output, depending on what I'm looking for. [...] ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] [ADMIN] I'm going for a lie down
- Original Message - > From: "Graeme Fowler via mailop" > To: "mailop" > Cc: "Simon Lyall" > Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2023 1:01:01 PM > Subject: [mailop] [ADMIN] I'm going for a lie down > Hi folks > > Apologies for not mentioning this any earlier, but at 0700 tomorrow I’m > reporting to hospital to have my right hip replaced. I’m going to be largely > incommunicado for a while. Be nice to each other, behave, try the veal, tip > your waitress etc :) > > Dont’ give Simon or Patrick a hard time in terms of moderation, please. Wait; this list has moderation? :-) Best of luck; we're really good at this sort of thing these days... Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274 ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] [ADMIN] I'm going for a lie down
Good luck for the surgery (if it's not already done) and get well by taking the time you need. Health is important. I'd say we'd hold the fort but the members here are all nice folks so I'm not worried ;) Le ven. 8 déc. 2023, 20:03, Jay R. Ashworth via mailop a écrit : > - Original Message - > > From: "Graeme Fowler via mailop" > > To: "mailop" > > Cc: "Simon Lyall" > > Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2023 1:01:01 PM > > Subject: [mailop] [ADMIN] I'm going for a lie down > > > Hi folks > > > > Apologies for not mentioning this any earlier, but at 0700 tomorrow I’m > > reporting to hospital to have my right hip replaced. I’m going to be > largely > > incommunicado for a while. Be nice to each other, behave, try the veal, > tip > > your waitress etc :) > > > > Dont’ give Simon or Patrick a hard time in terms of moderation, please. > > Wait; this list has moderation? > > :-) > > Best of luck; we're really good at this sort of thing these days... > > Cheers, > -- jra > -- > Jay R. Ashworth Baylink > j...@baylink.com > Designer The Things I Think RFC > 2100 > Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land > Rover DII > St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 > 1274 > ___ > mailop mailing list > mailop@mailop.org > https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop > ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
