Re: [mailop] Is Spectrum trying to sunset rr.com and twc.com emails?

2020-02-13 Thread Jay R. Ashworth via mailop
From: "Russell Clemings via mailop" 
> On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 6:59 PM Jay R. Ashworth via mailop < mailop@mailop.org 
> >
> wrote (in part):
> 
> > but my experience of email carrier buyouts is that no-one *ever* sunsets the
> > domain names, cause there's no real reason to do so, and it pisses off
> > end-users.
> 
> Tell that to Comcast, which bought attbi.com and made all of their users 
> change
> their email addresses to comcast.net , just as attbi.com had done a few years
> earlier when it bought mediaone.net . Quite a few years ago, but it was a
> colossal pain.
> 
> https://www.marketingsherpa.com/article/blog/19-million-attbi-email-addresses

Well, the snap answer there is "why the hell would you stay?"

If you're going to have to flush through a change cycle on an email that --
if they're being that stupid anyway, they're probably not going to forward -- 
why would you stay with the carrier anyway.

Cheers,
-- jra
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Re: [mailop] Is Spectrum trying to sunset rr.com and twc.com emails?

2020-02-09 Thread John Levine via mailop
In article ,
Russell Clemings via mailop  wrote:
>Tell that to Comcast, which bought attbi.com and made all of their users
>change their email addresses to comcast.net, just as attbi.com had done a
>few years earlier when it bought mediaone.net. Quite a few years ago, but
>it was a colossal pain.

They learned their lesson.  Now even if you cancel your Comcast service you
can keep your comcast.net address.

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Re: [mailop] Is Spectrum trying to sunset rr.com and twc.com emails?

2020-02-09 Thread Russell Clemings via mailop
On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 6:59 PM Jay R. Ashworth via mailop 
wrote (in part):

>
> but my experience of email carrier buyouts is that no-one *ever* sunsets
> the
> domain names, cause there's no real reason to do so, and it pisses off
> end-users.
>
>
Tell that to Comcast, which bought attbi.com and made all of their users
change their email addresses to comcast.net, just as attbi.com had done a
few years earlier when it bought mediaone.net. Quite a few years ago, but
it was a colossal pain.

https://www.marketingsherpa.com/article/blog/19-million-attbi-email-addresses
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Re: [mailop] Is Spectrum trying to sunset rr.com and twc.com emails?

2020-02-08 Thread Scott Undercofler via mailop
Nobody should listen to me at all because I have the memory of a goldfish. But 
in a past life I knew lots about splat.rr.com. There were royalty issues with 
the RoadRunner domains but I'm fairly sure Spectrum bought out the domain at 
least. I do know it (rr.com) under markmonitor through spectrum. 

There are millions of roadrunner.com and splat.rr.com users out there. While 
they had intended to move all new emails to a branded domain, that process is 
long and drawn out. 

On 2/8/20, 8:08 PM, "mailop on behalf of John Levine via mailop" 
 wrote:

In article <1692699245.1838651.1581216535504.javamail.zim...@baylink.com>,
Jay R. Ashworth via mailop  wrote:
>Does anyone on the list know if there's such a sunset policy in process?

I doubt it.  My twcny.rr.com address still works even though I haven't been
a Spectrum customer for quite a while.

For all the reasons you cite it's much easier to keep the old
addresses working even as you merge the infrastructure.  I mean,
aol.com addresses aren't going away even though they're now running on
ex-Yahoo Verizon systems.


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Re: [mailop] Is Spectrum trying to sunset rr.com and twc.com emails?

2020-02-08 Thread Jerry Cloe via mailop
Several months ago I could no longer deliver to @kc.rr.com, and this went on 
for months, finally mx records changed one day and all of a sudden its working 
again. I have to wonder if that wasn't some kind of test or mistake, and then 
they realized that yes, customers do still use those addresses.


 
-Original message-
From:Jay R. Ashworth via mailop 
Sent:Sat 02-08-2020 08:54 pm
Subject:[mailop] Is Spectrum trying to sunset rr.com and twc.com emails?
To:mailop@mailop.org; 
A client got an email that appeared to be from Keap, or maybe InfusionSoft, 
suggesting that Spectrum was trying to do that, and that users shouldn't add
contacts with those emails unless they were "bone-fide" (which was my only
hint)...

but my experience of email carrier buyouts is that no-one *ever* sunsets the
domain names, cause there's no real reason to do so, and it pisses off 
end-users.

The email also pointed to this domain name, which looks semi-official, and
I can't decide if the whole thing is some clever spear-fishing attempt, or
just someone who misunderstood something and is trying to be helpful.

Does anyone on the list know if there's such a sunset policy in process?

Cheers,
-- jra

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Re: [mailop] Is Spectrum trying to sunset rr.com and twc.com emails?

2020-02-08 Thread John Levine via mailop
In article <1692699245.1838651.1581216535504.javamail.zim...@baylink.com>,
Jay R. Ashworth via mailop  wrote:
>Does anyone on the list know if there's such a sunset policy in process?

I doubt it.  My twcny.rr.com address still works even though I haven't been
a Spectrum customer for quite a while.

For all the reasons you cite it's much easier to keep the old
addresses working even as you merge the infrastructure.  I mean,
aol.com addresses aren't going away even though they're now running on
ex-Yahoo Verizon systems.


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[mailop] Is Spectrum trying to sunset rr.com and twc.com emails?

2020-02-08 Thread Jay R. Ashworth via mailop
A client got an email that appeared to be from Keap, or maybe InfusionSoft, 
suggesting that Spectrum was trying to do that, and that users shouldn't add
contacts with those emails unless they were "bone-fide" (which was my only
hint)...

but my experience of email carrier buyouts is that no-one *ever* sunsets the
domain names, cause there's no real reason to do so, and it pisses off 
end-users.

The email also pointed to this domain name, which looks semi-official, and
I can't decide if the whole thing is some clever spear-fishing attempt, or
just someone who misunderstood something and is trying to be helpful.

Does anyone on the list know if there's such a sunset policy in process?

Cheers,
-- jra

-- 
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Designer The Things I Think   RFC 2100
Ashworth & Associates   http://www.bcp38.info
St Petersburg FL USA  BCP38: Ask For It By Name!   +1 727 647 1274

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