Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr // Contact à Orange.fr

2024-04-22 Thread Mark Dale via mailop 
Hi Alexandre,

Thank you for your reply and apologies for my late response.

Jeremy from Orange replied (to my original post) off-list and the
problem is now sorted.

Best,
Mark

 Original Message 
From: Alexandre Schmit-Baverel 
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 08:09 UTC

> Howdy, 
> 
> You can Find Axelle Allouch or Mat Antoine on the M3AAWG or Emailgeek's
> slack, both are in the postmaster service for Orange, but usually they
> are pretty reactives with the forms. (and they will certainly say that
> you have to go thru the form anyway, please be patient or respond to the
> ticket)
> 
> In the meanwhile, which NDR do you have, can you provide an SMTP answer?
> I might be able to tell you what's wrong as i'm used to deal with Orange
> as a french ESP.
> Have a nice day ! 
> 



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Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr // Contact à Orange.fr

2024-04-18 Thread Alexandre Schmit-Baverel via mailop 
Howdy,

You can Find Axelle Allouch or Mat Antoine on the M3AAWG or Emailgeek's
slack, both are in the postmaster service for Orange, but usually they are
pretty reactives with the forms. (and they will certainly say that you have
to go thru the form anyway, please be patient or respond to the ticket)

In the meanwhile, which NDR do you have, can you provide an SMTP answer?
I might be able to tell you what's wrong as i'm used to deal with Orange
as a french ESP.
Have a nice day !



Bonjour !

Sur le slack du M3AAWG ou Emailgeeks, vous devriez trouver Axelle Allouch,
ou Mat Antoine, tout deux sont au service Postmaster de chez Orange, mais
normalement ils sont plutôt réactif avec le formulaire (si vous les
contactez ils vont probablement vous dire de passer par le formulaire,
tentez de faire une relance ou patientez un peu ! :)

En attendant, tu saurais me dire quel NDR vous avez ? (me donner une
réponse SMTP ?)
Je devrais pouvoir aider car en tant qu'ESP français je suis habitué à
Orange :)
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Le jeu. 18 avr. 2024 à 00:47, 'Mark Dale via mailop' via Sarbacane -
Délivrabilité  a écrit :

> Hi,
>
> Is anyone here from Orange.fr?
>
> We are getting NDRs from orange.fr/wanadoo.fr.
>
> Emails sent to the Orange postmaster and abuse addresses send back an
> auto-reply directing me to their form page at
>
> https://formulaires.services.orange.fr/9680
>
> And there's no reply at all from the form page.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark.
>
> =
>
> Bonjour,
>
> Y a-t-il quelqu'un ici qui travaille chez Orange.fr ?
>
> Nous recevons des NDRs de orange.fr/wanadoo.fr.
>
> Les emails envoyés aux adresses postmaster et abuse d'Orange me
> renvoient à une réponse automatique me dirigeant vers leur page de
> formulaire à l'adresse
>
> https://formulaires.services.orange.fr/9680
>
> Et il n'y a pas de réponse du tout sur la page du formulaire.
>
> Je vous remercie,
> Mark.
>
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Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr

2018-12-06 Thread Benjamin BILLON 
For PowerMTA specific questions, I strongly advise to ask on 
https://forum.port25.com rather than here.

That being said: why using "route"? Why the queue? Maybe it's related to your 
specific settings, but it might not be useful.
Hint: limit your max-msg-per-connection to less. Start with 50 then try to 
increase, if necessary.

Try this:

domain-macro orange-domains wanadoo.fr, orange.fr
mx-connection-limit smtp-in.orange.fr 3

   max-smtp-out 1
   max-msg-per-connection 50


Note that using a domain-macro won't aggregate the setting the the macro. It 
just makes your conf shorter.
So the above is exactly the same as

mx-connection-limit smtp-in.orange.fr 3

   max-smtp-out 1
   max-msg-per-connection 50


   max-smtp-out 1
   max-msg-per-connection 50





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From: mailop  On Behalf Of Dragutin Cvetkovic
Sent: jeudi 6 décembre 2018 11:15
To: mailop 
Subject: Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr

LOL!

Oh well...

defined a macro...

domain-macro orange-domains wanadoo.fr, orange.fr


defined a queue...



   route smtp-in.orange.fr
   max-smtp-out 1
   max-msg-per-connection 500


and then told it to redirect stuff...

# Domain Settings

   queue-to smtp-in.orange.fr.queue


and still getting

SMTP service unavailable: "421 mwinf5c53 ME Trop de connexions, veuillez 
verifier votre configuration. Too many connections, slow down. OFR004_104 [104]"

The trick is I have three PMTAs here harnessed together, so max-smtp-out 1 
translates to 3 connections, 1 per PMTA.

So, I think I will have to get in touch with the folks at Orange to clarify 
this.

One thing I did, which is a bit naughty, is pushed the max-msg-per-connection 
to 500 from 100... Doesn't seem to affect anything negatively.
Best regards,

Dragutin Cvetković
IBM WCA Deliverabilty Tech Lead




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From:Mathieu Bourdin mailto:mbour...@np6.com>>
To:Al Iverson 
mailto:aliver...@aliverson.com>>, Benjamin BILLON 
mailto:bbil...@splio.com>>
Cc:mailop mailto:mailop@mailop.org>>, 
"dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com<mailto:dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com>" 
mailto:dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com>>
Date:05/12/2018 15:24
Subject:Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr
Sent by:"mailop" 
mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org>>




But… where’s the fun  in that ?

(mentally insert image of a slightly confused and a bit sad kitty)

Mathieu.

De : Al Iverson mailto:aliver...@aliverson.com>>
Envoyé : mercredi 5 décembre 2018 15:58
À : Benjamin BILLON mailto:bbil...@splio.com>>
Cc : dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com<mailto:dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com>; Mathieu Bourdin 
mailto:mbour...@np6.com>>; mailop 
mailto:mailop@mailop.org>>
Objet : Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr

Or just set it to one connection max for each domain and you'll stay below 3 
because there are only two domains. :)

Cheers,
Al Iverson

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 8:28 AM Benjamin BILLON 
mailto:bbil...@splio.com>> wrote:
mx-connection-limit does the trick

Pmta forums probably have detailed examples too

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From: mailop mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org>> On 
Behalf Of Dragutin Cvetkovic
Sent: mercredi 5 décembre 2018 13:32
To: mbour...@np6.com<mailto:mbour...@np6.com>
Cc: mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>
Subject: Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr

Hello Mathieu,

Thanks for the tip.

My issue with using PMTA queues is that I only know of the 'route' directive to 
pass the mailings to the specific MX server: this can be a problem if the ISP 
changes their MX server's addresses, and the change could go unnoticed.

Is there a way to queue up two domains and have the queue deliver to the DNS 
provided MX record of a specific domain?

Best regards,

Dragutin Cvetković
IBM WCA Deliverabilty Tech Lead






Phone: +353 1 815 2564
Mobile: +353 87 118 3960
E-mail: dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com<mailto:dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com>



IBM Technology Campus
Damastown Industrial Estate, Mulhuddart, Dublin 15
Ireland


IBM Ireland Product Distribution Limited Registered in Ireland with number 
92815.
Registered office: IBM House, Shelbourne Road, Ballsbridge, Dublin 4




- Original message -
From: Mathieu Bourdin mailto:mbour...@np6.com>>
Sent by: "mailop" mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org>>
To: Dragutin Cvetkovic mailto:dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com>>, 
"mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop

Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr

2018-12-06 Thread Dragutin Cvetkovic 
LOL!

Oh well... 

defined a macro...

domain-macro orange-domains wanadoo.fr, orange.fr


defined a queue...



route smtp-in.orange.fr
max-smtp-out 1
max-msg-per-connection 500


and then told it to redirect stuff...

# Domain Settings

queue-to smtp-in.orange.fr.queue


and still getting 

SMTP service unavailable: "421 mwinf5c53 ME Trop de connexions, veuillez 
verifier votre configuration. Too many connections, slow down. OFR004_104 
[104]"

The trick is I have three PMTAs here harnessed together, so max-smtp-out 1 
translates to 3 connections, 1 per PMTA.

So, I think I will have to get in touch with the folks at Orange to 
clarify this.

One thing I did, which is a bit naughty, is pushed the 
max-msg-per-connection to 500 from 100... Doesn't seem to affect anything 
negatively.


Best regards,

Dragutin Cvetković 
IBM WCA Deliverabilty Tech Lead


Phone: +353 1 815 2564
Mobile: +353 87 118 3960
E-mail: dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com 


IBM Technology Campus 
Damastown Industrial Estate, Mulhuddart, Dublin 15 
Ireland 

IBM Ireland Product Distribution Limited Registered in Ireland with number 
92815.
Registered office: IBM House, Shelbourne Road, Ballsbridge, Dublin 4





From:   Mathieu Bourdin 
To: Al Iverson , Benjamin BILLON 

Cc: mailop , "dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com" 

Date:   05/12/2018 15:24
Subject:        Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr
Sent by:"mailop" 



But… where’s the fun  in that ?
 
(mentally insert image of a slightly confused and a bit sad kitty)
 
Mathieu.
 
De : Al Iverson  
Envoyé : mercredi 5 décembre 2018 15:58
À : Benjamin BILLON 
Cc : dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com; Mathieu Bourdin ; mailop 

Objet : Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr
 
Or just set it to one connection max for each domain and you'll stay below 
3 because there are only two domains. :)
 
Cheers,
Al Iverson
 
On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 8:28 AM Benjamin BILLON  wrote:
mx-connection-limit does the trick
 
Pmta forums probably have detailed examples too
 
--
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From: mailop  On Behalf Of Dragutin Cvetkovic
Sent: mercredi 5 décembre 2018 13:32
To: mbour...@np6.com
Cc: mailop@mailop.org
Subject: Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr
 
Hello Mathieu,
 
Thanks for the tip.
 
My issue with using PMTA queues is that I only know of the 'route' 
directive to pass the mailings to the specific MX server: this can be a 
problem if the ISP changes their MX server's addresses, and the change 
could go unnoticed.
 
Is there a way to queue up two domains and have the queue deliver to the 
DNS provided MX record of a specific domain?
 

Best regards,

Dragutin Cvetković 
IBM WCA Deliverabilty Tech Lead
 


Phone: +353 1 815 2564
Mobile: +353 87 118 3960
E-mail: dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com 


IBM Technology Campus
Damastown Industrial Estate, Mulhuddart, Dublin 15
Ireland 

IBM Ireland Product Distribution Limited Registered in Ireland with number 
92815.
Registered office: IBM House, Shelbourne Road, Ballsbridge, Dublin 4
 
 
- Original message -
From: Mathieu Bourdin 
Sent by: "mailop" 
To: Dragutin Cvetkovic , "mailop@mailop.org" <
mailop@mailop.org>
Cc:
Subject: Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr
Date: Wed, Dec 5, 2018 9:58 AM
 
Hi Dragutin, 
 
Limit rates for Orange/wanadoo is 3 connection per IP. Often issues are 
caused by not taking into account wanadoo.fr domain addresses as this is 
the same operator (meaning you have to manage this on a mx basis, not just 
domain). If you use PMTA for sending wrap both domains in the same queue.
 
Mathieu.
 
De : mailop  De la part de Dragutin Cvetkovic
Envoyé : mercredi 5 décembre 2018 10:30
À : mailop@mailop.org
Objet : Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr
 
Hi Benjamin, et. al,

Thank you for the feedback.

Essentially, I am trying to find out what are the optimal/recommended 
MTA/SMTP connection settings for orange.fr.

I ran into several online articles on the topic, but they are somewhat 
contradicting.

Best regards,

Dragutin Cvetković 
IBM WCA Deliverabilty Tech Lead
 


Phone: +353 1 815 2564
Mobile: +353 87 118 3960
E-mail: dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com


IBM Technology Campus
Damastown Industrial Estate, Mulhuddart, Dublin 15
Ireland 

IBM Ireland Product Distribution Limited Registered in Ireland with number 
92815.
Registered office: IBM House, Shelbourne Road, Ballsbridge, Dublin 4





From:Benjamin BILLON 
To:Dragutin Cvetkovic , "mailop@mailop.org" 

Date:04/12/2018 10:35
Subject:Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr
Sent by:"mailop" 




ab...@orange.fris the way to go, however it could take a few days to get a 
reply, if they consider there should be one.
 
Otherwise if you can share some details, I'll meet these folks tomorrow 
night.
 
--
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From: mailop  On Behalf Of Dragutin Cvetkovic
Sent: mardi 4 décembre 2018 10:48
To: mailop@mailop.org
Subject: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr
 
Hi all,
 
I am hoping to

Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr

2018-12-05 Thread Mathieu Bourdin 
But… where’s the fun  in that ?

(mentally insert image of a slightly confused and a bit sad kitty)

Mathieu.

De : Al Iverson 
Envoyé : mercredi 5 décembre 2018 15:58
À : Benjamin BILLON 
Cc : dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com; Mathieu Bourdin ; mailop 

Objet : Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr

Or just set it to one connection max for each domain and you'll stay below 3 
because there are only two domains. :)

Cheers,
Al Iverson

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 8:28 AM Benjamin BILLON 
mailto:bbil...@splio.com>> wrote:
mx-connection-limit does the trick

Pmta forums probably have detailed examples too

--
Benjamin

From: mailop mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org>> On 
Behalf Of Dragutin Cvetkovic
Sent: mercredi 5 décembre 2018 13:32
To: mbour...@np6.com<mailto:mbour...@np6.com>
Cc: mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>
Subject: Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr

Hello Mathieu,

Thanks for the tip.

My issue with using PMTA queues is that I only know of the 'route' directive to 
pass the mailings to the specific MX server: this can be a problem if the ISP 
changes their MX server's addresses, and the change could go unnoticed.

Is there a way to queue up two domains and have the queue deliver to the DNS 
provided MX record of a specific domain?

Best regards,

Dragutin Cvetković
IBM WCA Deliverabilty Tech Lead




Phone: +353 1 815 2564
Mobile: +353 87 118 3960
E-mail: dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com <mailto:dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com>

[IBM]

IBM Technology Campus
Damastown Industrial Estate, Mulhuddart, Dublin 15
Ireland


IBM Ireland Product Distribution Limited Registered in Ireland with number 
92815.
Registered office: IBM House, Shelbourne Road, Ballsbridge, Dublin 4



- Original message -
From: Mathieu Bourdin mailto:mbour...@np6.com>>
Sent by: "mailop" mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org>>
To: Dragutin Cvetkovic mailto:dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com>>, 
"mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>" 
mailto:mailop@mailop.org>>
Cc:
Subject: Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr
Date: Wed, Dec 5, 2018 9:58 AM


Hi Dragutin,



Limit rates for Orange/wanadoo is 3 connection per IP. Often issues are caused 
by not taking into account wanadoo.fr<http://wanadoo.fr> domain addresses as 
this is the same operator (meaning you have to manage this on a mx basis, not 
just domain). If you use PMTA for sending wrap both domains in the same queue.



Mathieu.



De : mailop mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org>> De la 
part de Dragutin Cvetkovic
Envoyé : mercredi 5 décembre 2018 10:30
À : mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>
Objet : Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr



Hi Benjamin, et. al,

Thank you for the feedback.

Essentially, I am trying to find out what are the optimal/recommended MTA/SMTP 
connection settings for orange.fr<http://orange.fr>.

I ran into several online articles on the topic, but they are somewhat 
contradicting.

Best regards,

Dragutin Cvetković
IBM WCA Deliverabilty Tech Lead







Phone: +353 1 815 2564
Mobile: +353 87 118 3960
E-mail: dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com<mailto:dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com>


[IBM]

IBM Technology Campus
Damastown Industrial Estate, Mulhuddart, Dublin 15
Ireland




IBM Ireland Product Distribution Limited Registered in Ireland with number 
92815.
Registered office: IBM House, Shelbourne Road, Ballsbridge, Dublin 4






From:Benjamin BILLON mailto:bbil...@splio.com>>
To:Dragutin Cvetkovic 
mailto:dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com>>, 
"mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>" 
mailto:mailop@mailop.org>>
Date:04/12/2018 10:35
Subject:Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr
Sent by:"mailop" 
mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org>>





ab...@orange.fr<mailto:ab...@orange.fr>is the way to go, however it could take 
a few days to get a reply, if they consider there should be one.

Otherwise if you can share some details, I'll meet these folks tomorrow night.

--
Benjamin

From: mailop mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org>> On 
Behalf Of Dragutin Cvetkovic
Sent: mardi 4 décembre 2018 10:48
To: mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>
Subject: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr

Hi all,

I am hoping to get in touch with someone offlist from Orange.fr PostMaster team.

Please contact me directly.



Best regards,

Dragutin Cvetković
IBM WCA Deliverabilty Tech Lead







Phone: +353 1 815 2564
Mobile: +353 87 118 3960
E-mail: dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com<mailto:dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com>


[IBM]

IBM Technology Campus
Damastown Industrial Estate, Mulhuddart, Dublin 15
Ireland




IBM Ireland Product Distribution Limited Registered in Ireland with number 
92815.
Registered office:

Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr

2018-12-05 Thread Al Iverson 
Or just set it to one connection max for each domain and you'll stay below
3 because there are only two domains. :)

Cheers,
Al Iverson

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 8:28 AM Benjamin BILLON  wrote:

> mx-connection-limit does the trick
>
>
>
> Pmta forums probably have detailed examples too
>
>
>
> --
> *Benjamin*
>
>
>
> *From:* mailop  *On Behalf Of *Dragutin
> Cvetkovic
> *Sent:* mercredi 5 décembre 2018 13:32
> *To:* mbour...@np6.com
> *Cc:* mailop@mailop.org
> *Subject:* Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr
>
>
>
> Hello Mathieu,
>
>
>
> Thanks for the tip.
>
>
>
> My issue with using PMTA queues is that I only know of the 'route'
> directive to pass the mailings to the specific MX server: this can be a
> problem if the ISP changes their MX server's addresses, and the change
> could go unnoticed.
>
>
>
> Is there a way to queue up two domains and have the queue deliver to the
> DNS provided MX record of a specific domain?
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> *Dragutin Cvetković *
> IBM WCA Deliverabilty Tech Lead
>
>
> --
>
> *Phone: *+353 1 815 2564
> *Mobile: *+353 87 118 3960
> *E-mail:* dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com  
>
> [image: IBM]
>
> IBM Technology Campus
> Damastown Industrial Estate, Mulhuddart, Dublin 15
> Ireland
> --
>
> IBM Ireland Product Distribution Limited Registered in Ireland with number
> 92815.
> Registered office: IBM House, Shelbourne Road, Ballsbridge, Dublin 4
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original message -
> From: Mathieu Bourdin 
> Sent by: "mailop" 
> To: Dragutin Cvetkovic , "mailop@mailop.org" <
> mailop@mailop.org>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr
> Date: Wed, Dec 5, 2018 9:58 AM
>
>
> Hi Dragutin,
>
>
>
> Limit rates for Orange/wanadoo is 3 connection per IP. Often issues are
> caused by not taking into account wanadoo.fr domain addresses as this is
> the same operator (meaning you have to manage this on a mx basis, not just
> domain). If you use PMTA for sending wrap both domains in the same queue.
>
>
>
> Mathieu.
>
>
>
> *De :* mailop  *De la part de* Dragutin
> Cvetkovic
> *Envoyé :* mercredi 5 décembre 2018 10:30
> *À :* mailop@mailop.org
> *Objet :* Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr
>
>
>
> Hi Benjamin, et. al,
>
> Thank you for the feedback.
>
> Essentially, I am trying to find out what are the optimal/recommended
> MTA/SMTP connection settings for orange.fr.
>
> I ran into several online articles on the topic, but they are somewhat
> contradicting.
>
> Best regards,
>
> *Dragutin Cvetković *
> IBM WCA Deliverabilty Tech Lead
>
>
> --
>
> *Phone: *+353 1 815 2564
> *Mobile: *+353 87 118 3960
> *E-mail:* dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com
>
> [image: IBM]
>
> IBM Technology Campus
> Damastown Industrial Estate, Mulhuddart, Dublin 15
> Ireland
> --
>
> IBM Ireland Product Distribution Limited Registered in Ireland with number
> 92815.
> Registered office: IBM House, Shelbourne Road, Ballsbridge, Dublin 4
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From:Benjamin BILLON 
> To:Dragutin Cvetkovic , "mailop@mailop.org"
> 
> Date:04/12/2018 10:35
> Subject:Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr
> Sent by:"mailop" 
> --
>
>
>
>
> ab...@orange.fris the way to go, however it could take a few days to get
> a reply, if they consider there should be one.
>
> Otherwise if you can share some details, I'll meet these folks tomorrow
> night.
>
> --
> *Benjamin *
>
> *From:* mailop  *On Behalf Of *Dragutin
> Cvetkovic
> *Sent:* mardi 4 décembre 2018 10:48
> *To:* mailop@mailop.org
> *Subject:* [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am hoping to get in touch with someone offlist from Orange.fr PostMaster
> team.
>
> Please contact me directly.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> *Dragutin Cvetković *
> IBM WCA Deliverabilty Tech Lead
>
>
>
> --
>
> *Phone: *+353 1 815 2564
> *Mobile: *+353 87 118 3960
> *E-mail:* dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com
>
> [image: IBM]
>
> IBM Technology Campus
> Damastown Industrial Estate, Mulhuddart, Dublin 15
> Ireland
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>
> IBM Ireland Product Distribution Limited Registered in Ireland with number
> 92815.
> Registered office: IBM House, Shelbourne Road, Ballsbridge, Dublin 4
>
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Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr

2018-12-05 Thread Benjamin BILLON 
mx-connection-limit does the trick

Pmta forums probably have detailed examples too

--
Benjamin

From: mailop  On Behalf Of Dragutin Cvetkovic
Sent: mercredi 5 décembre 2018 13:32
To: mbour...@np6.com
Cc: mailop@mailop.org
Subject: Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr

Hello Mathieu,

Thanks for the tip.

My issue with using PMTA queues is that I only know of the 'route' directive to 
pass the mailings to the specific MX server: this can be a problem if the ISP 
changes their MX server's addresses, and the change could go unnoticed.

Is there a way to queue up two domains and have the queue deliver to the DNS 
provided MX record of a specific domain?

Best regards,

Dragutin Cvetković
IBM WCA Deliverabilty Tech Lead




Phone: +353 1 815 2564
Mobile: +353 87 118 3960
E-mail: dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com <mailto:dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com>

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- Original message -
From: Mathieu Bourdin mailto:mbour...@np6.com>>
Sent by: "mailop" mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org>>
To: Dragutin Cvetkovic mailto:dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com>>, 
"mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>" 
mailto:mailop@mailop.org>>
Cc:
Subject: Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr
Date: Wed, Dec 5, 2018 9:58 AM


Hi Dragutin,



Limit rates for Orange/wanadoo is 3 connection per IP. Often issues are caused 
by not taking into account wanadoo.fr domain addresses as this is the same 
operator (meaning you have to manage this on a mx basis, not just domain). If 
you use PMTA for sending wrap both domains in the same queue.



Mathieu.



De : mailop mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org>> De la 
part de Dragutin Cvetkovic
Envoyé : mercredi 5 décembre 2018 10:30
À : mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>
Objet : Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr



Hi Benjamin, et. al,

Thank you for the feedback.

Essentially, I am trying to find out what are the optimal/recommended MTA/SMTP 
connection settings for orange.fr.

I ran into several online articles on the topic, but they are somewhat 
contradicting.

Best regards,

Dragutin Cvetković
IBM WCA Deliverabilty Tech Lead







Phone: +353 1 815 2564
Mobile: +353 87 118 3960
E-mail: dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com<mailto:dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com>


[IBM]

IBM Technology Campus
Damastown Industrial Estate, Mulhuddart, Dublin 15
Ireland




IBM Ireland Product Distribution Limited Registered in Ireland with number 
92815.
Registered office: IBM House, Shelbourne Road, Ballsbridge, Dublin 4






From:Benjamin BILLON mailto:bbil...@splio.com>>
To:Dragutin Cvetkovic 
mailto:dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com>>, 
"mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>" 
mailto:mailop@mailop.org>>
Date:04/12/2018 10:35
Subject:Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr
Sent by:"mailop" 
mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org>>





ab...@orange.fr<mailto:ab...@orange.fr>is the way to go, however it could take 
a few days to get a reply, if they consider there should be one.

Otherwise if you can share some details, I'll meet these folks tomorrow night.

--
Benjamin

From: mailop mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org>> On 
Behalf Of Dragutin Cvetkovic
Sent: mardi 4 décembre 2018 10:48
To: mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>
Subject: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr

Hi all,

I am hoping to get in touch with someone offlist from Orange.fr PostMaster team.

Please contact me directly.



Best regards,

Dragutin Cvetković
IBM WCA Deliverabilty Tech Lead







Phone: +353 1 815 2564
Mobile: +353 87 118 3960
E-mail: dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com<mailto:dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com>


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Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr

2018-12-05 Thread Dragutin Cvetkovic 
Hello Mathieu,
 
Thanks for the tip.
 
My issue with using PMTA queues is that I only know of the 'route' directive to pass the mailings to the specific MX server: this can be a problem if the ISP changes their MX server's addresses, and the change could go unnoticed.
 
Is there a way to queue up two domains and have the queue deliver to the DNS provided MX record of a specific domain?
 
Best regards,Dragutin Cvetković IBM WCA Deliverabilty Tech Lead
Phone: +353 1 815 2564Mobile: +353 87 118 3960E-mail: dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com IBM Technology CampusDamastown Industrial Estate, Mulhuddart, Dublin 15Ireland IBM Ireland Product Distribution Limited Registered in Ireland with number 92815.Registered office: IBM House, Shelbourne Road, Ballsbridge, Dublin 4
 
 
- Original message -From: Mathieu Bourdin Sent by: "mailop" To: Dragutin Cvetkovic , "mailop@mailop.org" Cc:Subject: Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.frDate: Wed, Dec 5, 2018 9:58 AM  
Hi Dragutin, 
 
Limit rates for Orange/wanadoo is 3 connection per IP. Often issues are caused by not taking into account wanadoo.fr domain addresses as this is the same operator (meaning you have to manage this on a mx basis, not just domain). If you use PMTA for sending wrap both domains in the same queue.
 
Mathieu.
 
De : mailop  De la part de Dragutin CvetkovicEnvoyé : mercredi 5 décembre 2018 10:30À : mailop@mailop.orgObjet : Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr
 
Hi Benjamin, et. al,Thank you for the feedback.Essentially, I am trying to find out what are the optimal/recommended MTA/SMTP connection settings for orange.fr.I ran into several online articles on the topic, but they are somewhat contradicting.
Best regards,Dragutin Cvetković  IBM WCA Deliverabilty Tech Lead
 
Phone: +353 1 815 2564Mobile: +353 87 118 3960E-mail: dcvetko...@ie.ibm.comIBM Technology CampusDamastown Industrial Estate, Mulhuddart, Dublin 15Ireland 
IBM Ireland Product Distribution Limited Registered in Ireland with number 92815.Registered office: IBM House, Shelbourne Road, Ballsbridge, Dublin 4
From:        Benjamin BILLON <bbil...@splio.com>To:        Dragutin Cvetkovic <dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com>, "mailop@mailop.org" <mailop@mailop.org>Date:        04/12/2018 10:35Subject:        Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.frSent by:        "mailop" <mailop-boun...@mailop.org>

ab...@orange.fris the way to go, however it could take a few days to get a reply, if they consider there should be one. Otherwise if you can share some details, I'll meet these folks tomorrow night. --Benjamin  From: mailop <mailop-boun...@mailop.org> On Behalf Of Dragutin CvetkovicSent: mardi 4 décembre 2018 10:48To: mailop@mailop.orgSubject: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr Hi all, I am hoping to get in touch with someone offlist from Orange.fr PostMaster team. Please contact me directly.  
Best regards,Dragutin Cvetković IBM WCA Deliverabilty Tech Lead
 
Phone: +353 1 815 2564

Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr

2018-12-05 Thread Benjamin BILLON 
For IPs with ReturnPath Certification, you can increase the number of 
concurrent connection by IP.

--
Benjamin

From: mailop  On Behalf Of Mathieu Bourdin
Sent: mercredi 5 décembre 2018 10:53
To: Dragutin Cvetkovic ; mailop@mailop.org
Subject: Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr

Hi Dragutin,

Limit rates for Orange/wanadoo is 3 connection per IP. Often issues are caused 
by not taking into account wanadoo.fr domain addresses as this is the same 
operator (meaning you have to manage this on a mx basis, not just domain). If 
you use PMTA for sending wrap both domains in the same queue.

Mathieu.

De : mailop mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org>> De la 
part de Dragutin Cvetkovic
Envoyé : mercredi 5 décembre 2018 10:30
À : mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>
Objet : Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr

Hi Benjamin, et. al,

Thank you for the feedback.

Essentially, I am trying to find out what are the optimal/recommended MTA/SMTP 
connection settings for orange.fr.

I ran into several online articles on the topic, but they are somewhat 
contradicting.
Best regards,

Dragutin Cvetković
IBM WCA Deliverabilty Tech Lead




Phone: +353 1 815 2564
Mobile: +353 87 118 3960
E-mail: dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com<mailto:dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com>

[IBM]

IBM Technology Campus
Damastown Industrial Estate, Mulhuddart, Dublin 15
Ireland


IBM Ireland Product Distribution Limited Registered in Ireland with number 
92815.
Registered office: IBM House, Shelbourne Road, Ballsbridge, Dublin 4






From:Benjamin BILLON mailto:bbil...@splio.com>>
To:Dragutin Cvetkovic 
mailto:dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com>>, 
"mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>" 
mailto:mailop@mailop.org>>
Date:    04/12/2018 10:35
Subject:Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr
Sent by:"mailop" 
mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org>>




ab...@orange.fr<mailto:ab...@orange.fr>is the way to go, however it could take 
a few days to get a reply, if they consider there should be one.

Otherwise if you can share some details, I'll meet these folks tomorrow night.

--
Benjamin

From: mailop mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org>> On 
Behalf Of Dragutin Cvetkovic
Sent: mardi 4 décembre 2018 10:48
To: mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>
Subject: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr

Hi all,

I am hoping to get in touch with someone offlist from Orange.fr PostMaster team.

Please contact me directly.


Best regards,

Dragutin Cvetković
IBM WCA Deliverabilty Tech Lead






Phone: +353 1 815 2564
Mobile: +353 87 118 3960
E-mail: dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com<mailto:dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com>

[IBM]

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Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr

2018-12-05 Thread Mathieu Bourdin 
Hi Dragutin,

Limit rates for Orange/wanadoo is 3 connection per IP. Often issues are caused 
by not taking into account wanadoo.fr domain addresses as this is the same 
operator (meaning you have to manage this on a mx basis, not just domain). If 
you use PMTA for sending wrap both domains in the same queue.

Mathieu.

De : mailop  De la part de Dragutin Cvetkovic
Envoyé : mercredi 5 décembre 2018 10:30
À : mailop@mailop.org
Objet : Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr

Hi Benjamin, et. al,

Thank you for the feedback.

Essentially, I am trying to find out what are the optimal/recommended MTA/SMTP 
connection settings for orange.fr.

I ran into several online articles on the topic, but they are somewhat 
contradicting.
Best regards,

Dragutin Cvetković
IBM WCA Deliverabilty Tech Lead




Phone: +353 1 815 2564
Mobile: +353 87 118 3960
E-mail: dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com<mailto:dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com>

[IBM]

IBM Technology Campus
Damastown Industrial Estate, Mulhuddart, Dublin 15
Ireland


IBM Ireland Product Distribution Limited Registered in Ireland with number 
92815.
Registered office: IBM House, Shelbourne Road, Ballsbridge, Dublin 4






From:Benjamin BILLON mailto:bbil...@splio.com>>
To:Dragutin Cvetkovic 
mailto:dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com>>, 
"mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>" 
mailto:mailop@mailop.org>>
Date:        04/12/2018 10:35
Subject:    Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr
Sent by:"mailop" 
mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org>>




ab...@orange.fr<mailto:ab...@orange.fr>is the way to go, however it could take 
a few days to get a reply, if they consider there should be one.

Otherwise if you can share some details, I'll meet these folks tomorrow night.

--
Benjamin

From: mailop mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org>> On 
Behalf Of Dragutin Cvetkovic
Sent: mardi 4 décembre 2018 10:48
To: mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>
Subject: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr

Hi all,

I am hoping to get in touch with someone offlist from Orange.fr PostMaster team.

Please contact me directly.


Best regards,

Dragutin Cvetković
IBM WCA Deliverabilty Tech Lead






Phone: +353 1 815 2564
Mobile: +353 87 118 3960
E-mail: dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com<mailto:dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com>

[IBM]

IBM Technology Campus
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Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr

2018-12-05 Thread Dragutin Cvetkovic 
Hi Benjamin, et. al,

Thank you for the feedback.

Essentially, I am trying to find out what are the optimal/recommended 
MTA/SMTP connection settings for orange.fr.

I ran into several online articles on the topic, but they are somewhat 
contradicting.


Best regards,

Dragutin Cvetković 
IBM WCA Deliverabilty Tech Lead


Phone: +353 1 815 2564
Mobile: +353 87 118 3960
E-mail: dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com 


IBM Technology Campus 
Damastown Industrial Estate, Mulhuddart, Dublin 15 
Ireland 

IBM Ireland Product Distribution Limited Registered in Ireland with number 
92815.
Registered office: IBM House, Shelbourne Road, Ballsbridge, Dublin 4





From:   Benjamin BILLON 
To: Dragutin Cvetkovic , "mailop@mailop.org" 

Date:   04/12/2018 10:35
Subject:    Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr
Sent by:"mailop" 



ab...@orange.fr is the way to go, however it could take a few days to get 
a reply, if they consider there should be one.
 
Otherwise if you can share some details, I'll meet these folks tomorrow 
night.
 
--
Benjamin 
 
From: mailop  On Behalf Of Dragutin Cvetkovic
Sent: mardi 4 décembre 2018 10:48
To: mailop@mailop.org
Subject: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr
 
Hi all,
 
I am hoping to get in touch with someone offlist from Orange.fr PostMaster 
team.
 
Please contact me directly.
 
 

Best regards,

Dragutin Cvetković 
IBM WCA Deliverabilty Tech Lead
 


Phone: +353 1 815 2564
Mobile: +353 87 118 3960
E-mail: dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com 


IBM Technology Campus
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Ireland 

IBM Ireland Product Distribution Limited Registered in Ireland with number 
92815.
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Re: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr

2018-12-04 Thread Benjamin BILLON 
ab...@orange.fr is the way to go, however it could take 
a few days to get a reply, if they consider there should be one.

Otherwise if you can share some details, I'll meet these folks tomorrow night.

--
Benjamin

From: mailop  On Behalf Of Dragutin Cvetkovic
Sent: mardi 4 décembre 2018 10:48
To: mailop@mailop.org
Subject: [mailop] Contact at Orange.fr

Hi all,

I am hoping to get in touch with someone offlist from Orange.fr PostMaster team.

Please contact me directly.


Best regards,

Dragutin Cvetković
IBM WCA Deliverabilty Tech Lead




Phone: +353 1 815 2564
Mobile: +353 87 118 3960
E-mail: dcvetko...@ie.ibm.com 

[IBM]

IBM Technology Campus
Damastown Industrial Estate, Mulhuddart, Dublin 15
Ireland


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