VIRGIL: Re: VIRGIL Digest V1 #61
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Classics Department Emory University Atlanta, GA 30322 404 727 7592; fax 404 727 0223 In NJ: 973 635 6604 -- From: Barry Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 17:55:07 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: VIRGIL Digest V1 #59 I have TWICE signed off all these Virgil-mantovano things, and have had confirmation of same, so why am I still getting them? -Barry Baldwin On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: =20 =20 =20 VIRGIL DigestSunday, 26 September 1999 Volume 01 : Number= 059 =20 Re: VIRGIL: Another Virgilius Maro? Re: VIRGIL: Another Virgilius Maro? Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils Thank you message from API Casali on Treason =20 -- =20 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans Zimmermann) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 23:05:40 +0200 Subject: Re: VIRGIL: Another Virgilius Maro? =20 James Butrica schrieb: Message forwarded by moderator follows. From: F. Heberlein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:08:46 +1 Does someone know about a philosopher or grammarian called =AB Virgilius Maro =BB who was living in the 7th century? I would like to read something about this author, his life, his works. This is Vergilius Maro Grammaticus, famous for his claim to have attended in his youth a 13 days dispute on the correct vocative of e= go (now and then i ask our undergrads the 'correct' solution, and more than often i get replies like o ege ...). Under what circumstances would one use a vocative form of the 1st-perso= n singular pronoun? And please don't keep us in suspense: which form did = VMG regard as correct, and which were the competing forms? =20 yes, funny indeed, but let's remember the Greek neighbour form:=20 Odysseias e (book 5), 299: =F4 moi eg=F4 deilos ...=20 =20 grusz, hansz http://home.t-online.de/home/03581413454/sprachen.htm =20 =20 -- =20 From: Greg Farnum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:01:03 -0400 Subject: Re: VIRGIL: Another Virgilius Maro? =20 I must apologize to Peter from Perth, he DID NOT claim that Virgil Thomps= on was the first. I plead a hasty and furtive reading at work as my extenua= ting circumstance. Still, the discussion is an interesting one; and yes, the = name Homer, when pinned on an American, is just as hayseed as Virgil. =20 Greg Farnum =20 =20 Jim O'Hara wrote: =20 . and its American use as a first name is exemplified by (5) the composer Virgil Thomson, and (7) = a television character in McHale's Navy. Are there any others, I wonde= r? Best wishes Peter JVD BRYANT Perth Western Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nine major-league baseball players, eight born 1894-1917, and one in th= e 20's, have been named Virgil: From http://www.totalbaseball.com/ Virgil Abernathy Virgil Barnes Virgil Cheeves Virgil Davis Virgil Garriott Virgil Garvin Virgil Jester Thomas Virgil Red Stallcup Virgil Trucks Jim O'Hara James J. O'Hara Professor of Classical Studies Chair Classical Studies Dept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wesleyan University 860/685-2066 (fax: 2089) Middletown CT 06459-0146 Home Page: http://www.wesleyan.edu/classics/faculty/jim.html --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message unsubscribe mantovano in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub =20 =20 -- =20 From: Leofranc Holford-Strevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 23:09:31 +0100 Subject: Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils =20 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] edu, RANDI C ELDEVIK [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Yes, I have to acknowledge that those hillbilly associations do exist, i= n the U.S. context; the same for the name Homer, unfortunately. But I don= 't know how that came about, and I wish I knew. Homer and Virgil are my tw= o favorite poets, but if I had wanted to name my son in honor of one or bo= th of them, my husband would have rebelled--understandably, given the U.S. ambience. What's the British attitude? Doesn't anyone there give the name Homer or Virgil to their son? After all, one meets Englishmen named Terence, etc. =20 Can't say I've ever come across or heard of a British 'Homer
VIRGIL: Re: VIRGIL Digest V1 #60
On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VIRGIL DigestMonday, 27 September 1999 Volume 01 : Number 060 Re:casali reference? Re: VIRGIL Digest V1 #59 -- From: Christine Perkell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 27 Sep 99 12:06:13 -0400 Subject: Re:casali reference? Hello Everyone I seem to have missed the Casali reference to which M. Hughes gave a most interesting response. I would thank someone of you for giving it out again. C. Perkell Christine Perkell/ Zarbin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Classics Department Emory University Atlanta, GA 30322 404 727 7592; fax 404 727 0223 In NJ: 973 635 6604 -- From: Barry Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 17:55:07 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: VIRGIL Digest V1 #59 I have TWICE signed off all these Virgil-mantovano things, and have had confirmation of same, so why am I still getting them? -Barry Baldwin On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: =20 =20 =20 VIRGIL DigestSunday, 26 September 1999 Volume 01 : Number= 059 =20 Re: VIRGIL: Another Virgilius Maro? Re: VIRGIL: Another Virgilius Maro? Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils Thank you message from API Casali on Treason =20 -- =20 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans Zimmermann) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 23:05:40 +0200 Subject: Re: VIRGIL: Another Virgilius Maro? =20 James Butrica schrieb: Message forwarded by moderator follows. From: F. Heberlein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:08:46 +1 Does someone know about a philosopher or grammarian called =AB Virgilius Maro =BB who was living in the 7th century? I would like to read something about this author, his life, his works. This is Vergilius Maro Grammaticus, famous for his claim to have attended in his youth a 13 days dispute on the correct vocative of e= go (now and then i ask our undergrads the 'correct' solution, and more than often i get replies like o ege ...). Under what circumstances would one use a vocative form of the 1st-perso= n singular pronoun? And please don't keep us in suspense: which form did = VMG regard as correct, and which were the competing forms? =20 yes, funny indeed, but let's remember the Greek neighbour form:=20 Odysseias e (book 5), 299: =F4 moi eg=F4 deilos ...=20 =20 grusz, hansz http://home.t-online.de/home/03581413454/sprachen.htm =20 =20 -- =20 From: Greg Farnum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:01:03 -0400 Subject: Re: VIRGIL: Another Virgilius Maro? =20 I must apologize to Peter from Perth, he DID NOT claim that Virgil Thomps= on was the first. I plead a hasty and furtive reading at work as my extenua= ting circumstance. Still, the discussion is an interesting one; and yes, the = name Homer, when pinned on an American, is just as hayseed as Virgil. =20 Greg Farnum =20 =20 Jim O'Hara wrote: =20 . and its American use as a first name is exemplified by (5) the composer Virgil Thomson, and (7) = a television character in McHale's Navy. Are there any others, I wonde= r? Best wishes Peter JVD BRYANT Perth Western Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nine major-league baseball players, eight born 1894-1917, and one in th= e 20's, have been named Virgil: From http://www.totalbaseball.com/ Virgil Abernathy Virgil Barnes Virgil Cheeves Virgil Davis Virgil Garriott Virgil Garvin Virgil Jester Thomas Virgil Red Stallcup Virgil Trucks Jim O'Hara James J. O'Hara Professor of Classical Studies Chair Classical Studies Dept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wesleyan University 860/685-2066 (fax: 2089) Middletown CT 06459-0146 Home Page: http://www.wesleyan.edu/classics/faculty/jim.html --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message unsubscribe mantovano in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub =20 =20 -- =20 From: Leofranc Holford-Strevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 23:09:31 +0100 Subject: Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils =20 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] edu, RANDI C ELDEVIK [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Yes, I have to acknowledge that those hillbilly
VIRGIL: Re: VIRGIL Digest V1 #59
I have TWICE signed off all these Virgil-mantovano things, and have had confirmation of same, so why am I still getting them? -Barry Baldwin On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VIRGIL DigestSunday, 26 September 1999 Volume 01 : Number 059 Re: VIRGIL: Another Virgilius Maro? Re: VIRGIL: Another Virgilius Maro? Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils Thank you message from API Casali on Treason -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans Zimmermann) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 23:05:40 +0200 Subject: Re: VIRGIL: Another Virgilius Maro? James Butrica schrieb: Message forwarded by moderator follows. From: F. Heberlein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:08:46 +1 Does someone know about a philosopher or grammarian called « Virgilius Maro » who was living in the 7th century? I would like to read something about this author, his life, his works. This is Vergilius Maro Grammaticus, famous for his claim to have attended in his youth a 13 days dispute on the correct vocative of ego (now and then i ask our undergrads the 'correct' solution, and more than often i get replies like o ege ...). Under what circumstances would one use a vocative form of the 1st-person singular pronoun? And please don't keep us in suspense: which form did VMG regard as correct, and which were the competing forms? yes, funny indeed, but let's remember the Greek neighbour form: Odysseias e (book 5), 299: ô moi egô deilos ... grusz, hansz http://home.t-online.de/home/03581413454/sprachen.htm -- From: Greg Farnum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:01:03 -0400 Subject: Re: VIRGIL: Another Virgilius Maro? I must apologize to Peter from Perth, he DID NOT claim that Virgil Thompson was the first. I plead a hasty and furtive reading at work as my extenuating circumstance. Still, the discussion is an interesting one; and yes, the name Homer, when pinned on an American, is just as hayseed as Virgil. Greg Farnum Jim O'Hara wrote: . and its American use as a first name is exemplified by (5) the composer Virgil Thomson, and (7) a television character in McHale's Navy. Are there any others, I wonder? Best wishes Peter JVD BRYANT Perth Western Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nine major-league baseball players, eight born 1894-1917, and one in the 20's, have been named Virgil: From http://www.totalbaseball.com/ Virgil Abernathy Virgil Barnes Virgil Cheeves Virgil Davis Virgil Garriott Virgil Garvin Virgil Jester Thomas Virgil Red Stallcup Virgil Trucks Jim O'Hara James J. O'Hara Professor of Classical Studies Chair Classical Studies Dept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wesleyan University 860/685-2066 (fax: 2089) Middletown CT 06459-0146 Home Page: http://www.wesleyan.edu/classics/faculty/jim.html --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message unsubscribe mantovano in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub -- From: Leofranc Holford-Strevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 23:09:31 +0100 Subject: Re: VIRGIL: More Vergils In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] edu, RANDI C ELDEVIK [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Yes, I have to acknowledge that those hillbilly associations do exist, in the U.S. context; the same for the name Homer, unfortunately. But I don't know how that came about, and I wish I knew. Homer and Virgil are my two favorite poets, but if I had wanted to name my son in honor of one or both of them, my husband would have rebelled--understandably, given the U.S. ambience. What's the British attitude? Doesn't anyone there give the name Homer or Virgil to their son? After all, one meets Englishmen named Terence, etc. Can't say I've ever come across or heard of a British 'Homer' or 'Virgil', high, low, or middle class. Leofranc Holford-Strevens *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* Leofranc Holford-Strevens 67 St Bernard's Road usque adeone Oxford scire MEVM nihil est, nisi ME scire hoc sciat alter? OX2 6EJ tel. +44 (0)1865 552808(home)/267865(work) fax +44 (0)1865 512237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* -- From: Caroline Butler
