Re: MI MapInfo Compatibility Problems?
Yes you are right and why ??? I often simply edit the header info in the tab or wor to downspec the version statement and I can open many new mapinfo files even in 4.1 , 4.1 16 bit (which we use for a few custom mbx's we had built) , 4 for PowerMac and 4.5 so I can't see why MI cannot at least allow some backward compatibility. If you of course are reliant on using some of the more obscure recent line styles improvements, thematic mapping additions or need the over 36,000 node polygons and lines that may fairly well restrict your ability. Welcoming the improvements in linestyle sizes and options in 4.5, we mainly use thematic mapping to alter line styles rather than in the basic data to ensure older versions can remain functional. Since my department budget for software was cut 60% this year I am looking at what maintenance contracts we have, and will be looking at sustaining a variety of version for a few another year since I simply make a bigger rod for my own back each time I upgrade mapinfo and we lose an existing user until this problem is resolved by whatever action. This is making this a real issue to me. I do not see any good reason why in its 'save table as ', and 'save workspace as' options they cannot allow users to choose to save files as older 4.* types not simply as version 2. If Adobe and Microsoft are able to offer this feature with #350 notes software why can't Mapinfo. Is an answer needed! Adrian Can someone please verify that MI 4.1 and 4.5 versions cannot open MI 5.5 tables and workspaces? I have a co-worker in another city that says that 4.1 and 4.5 cannot open 5.5 workspaces and that 4.1 and 4.5 can only open some 5.5 tables. tia steve -- To unsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe MAPINFO-L" in the message body, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe MAPINFO-L" in the message body, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MI availability of mbx to change colour registry from 8 to 24 bit colour
A while ago on the list were details of a freeware mbx that allowed users to change their windows registry from 8 to 24 bit from within mapinfo. I saw it on a web site, but can not remember the name of the tool or its location, if anyone can point me to the right place I would be grateful, I have searched the list archive on www.mapinfo.com to no avail NO doubt the answer will be winging it's way in minutes so thanks to those who have helped me sort this one out regards Adrian PS I note my original mapinfo guide in pdf free of the directions site is now getting a bit long in the tooth although it is very popular. I would like to update it and have saved hundreds of e-mails to be added, The job is so big I would welcome any offers of help to spread the editorial work to update the manual to being at least 5.0 savvy * Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac wedi'u bwriadu ar gyfer pwy bynnag y cyfeirir ef ato neu atynt. Os ydych wedi ei dderbyn drwy gamgymeriad yna gadewch i'r rheolwr systemau wybod drwy ddefnyddio'r manylion isod. Mae cynnwys yr e-bost hwn yn cynrychioli barn y sawl a enwir uchod, felly nid ydyw'n dilyn ei fod yn cynrychioli barn Cyngor Sir Ddinbych. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager using the details below. The contents of this email represent the views of the individual(s) named above and do not necessarily represent the views of Denbighshire County Council. Cyngor Sir Ddinbych, Ffordd Wynnstay, Rhuthun. LL15 1YN. Denbighshire County Council, Wynnstay Road, Ruthin. LL15 1YN. Teleffon\Telephone: (+44) 01824 706000 http://www.sirddinbych.gov.uk http://www.denbighshire.gov.uk * -- To unsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe MAPINFO-L" in the message body, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MI follow onto MrSid and sdw files query
Thanks for those that responded, back on top of this now, but my e-mails are at home. However I have started to export tiffs as suggested with the belief that as well as tfw files tabs are created. My standalone viewer does not (v.2) and having just checked lizardtechs site they only make a clame for tfw - world files, does any version make a tab file as well ??? thanks as ever, and sorry about the long diatribe below, our language equality zealots have a lot to answer for, not even the Welsh Language Board has as much fuzz in there footers happy mapping ( and imaging) Adrian * Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac wedi'u bwriadu ar gyfer pwy bynnag y cyfeirir ef ato neu atynt. Os ydych wedi ei dderbyn drwy gamgymeriad yna gadewch i'r rheolwr systemau wybod drwy ddefnyddio'r manylion isod. Mae cynnwys yr e-bost hwn yn cynrychioli barn y sawl a enwir uchod, felly nid ydyw'n dilyn ei fod yn cynrychioli barn Cyngor Sir Ddinbych. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager using the details below. The contents of this email represent the views of the individual(s) named above and do not necessarily represent the views of Denbighshire County Council. Cyngor Sir Ddinbych, Ffordd Wynnstay, Rhuthun. LL15 1YN. Denbighshire County Council, Wynnstay Road, Ruthin. LL15 1YN. Teleffon\Telephone: (+44) 01824 706000 http://www.sirddinbych.gov.uk http://www.denbighshire.gov.uk * -- To unsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe MAPINFO-L" in the message body, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MI Summary: Opening Mr Sid images with co-ordinates in .sdw format
Thanks to Tom , Greg and all the others who replied to this, Before I needed to try world reg I cracked the problem using MI 5.5 and MrSid viewer 2.0 for PC, I had sid files without the needed tab files. I can see the images have co-ordinate information as I move the pointer, this info is held in the .sdw files, I tried to export a tiff from the the viewer but it would would only generate .tfw (world ) files for use with Arc View. If, however, you view the whole image in the viewer and open the export window dialogue box it gives the co-ordinate location for top, bottom, left and right edges. I had no projection info (which I suspect would be given if a tab file could be created and then opened in a text editor) Since the co-ordinates given were clearly UK Ord Survey, I opened the sid file In MI Pro 5.5 and selected the register option and guessed the co-ordinate / projection as British OS. I then zoomed right into pixel view and made my first point the top left hand corner, assigning the left and top co-ordinate, moving around each corner in turn, the image opened and I overlayed some distinct polygon vector stuff, it displayed in the right area and was the correct shape, I then did the same trick on adjacent Sid files which all appear to tile perfectly. Any UK users wanting to practice this routine for themselves if you have access to the recent Sunday Times CD with the UK Colour landsat tiles, that are also in the same Sid format, these make suitable test material for mastering the technique. best wishes and again thanks for all your help Adrian 1/ WorldReg Ver. 4.0 supports the .sdw format (among several others) for batch orientated, automated MapInfo raster file registration. You can get details on the web at URL: http://members.aol.com/mapdata/ Or feel free to contact me with your questions. Thanks, Tony Cooley Data Directions Eugene, OR (541) 345-4MAP email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /2 To open Mr Sid files in MapInfo you need to do the following (assuming you have already installed the Mr Sid extension from www.lizradtech.com) File open Select "Raster" Navigate to the appropriate folder Type *.sid and hit "Enter" All the Mr Sid format files will appear Select the one you want and double click It should open and be geo-referenced If you want to produce a TAB or TFW file, open the Mr Sid image in the stand alone Mr Sid viewer and export as a TIF file - it will also produce the TAB and TFW files (and a image file 10 to 20 times larger!) Cheers Greg Greg Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asia Pacific Support Group, Trimble Navigation New Zealand Limited, -- ** * _ * * |_|/~\----^\_ Adrian Walls, North Wales * * _/_ * :. 14 Tyn Llan,Llanferres,Denbighshire,CH7 5SP, UK * * // |:' [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * - \: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * / : http://www.nwmba.demon.co.uk * * \: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * */ : AOL Instant Message Username : MacMTBman* * __/ : * * /~ :. (web mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * ~\-__: * *`--_ ___- : * *\___/ * ** -- To unsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe MAPINFO-L" in the message body, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MI Opening Mr Sid images with co-ordinates in .sdw format--- help
Hi mappers I have acquired some imaging in Mr Sid format, it's registered in a seperate .sdw file I presume this is either an esri format or is used by mr sid. Does anyone know a translator that will allow me to place this info in a tab file rather than struggle by hand to register it the .sdw file says 25.000 0.000 0.000 -25.000 270012.500 394987.500 there is no other info and having seen .tfw world files they look similar any ideas welcome Adrian PS please send mails to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] as I'm off on hols for two weeks and will be unsubscribing from the list tonight and this work address has an autoresponder on from tomorrow. I will advise the list by summary when I return * Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef yn gyfrinachol ac wedi'u bwriadu ar gyfer pwy bynnag y cyfeirir ef ato neu atynt. Os ydych wedi ei dderbyn drwy gamgymeriad yna gadewch i'r rheolwr systemau wybod drwy ddefnyddio'r manylion isod. Mae cynnwys yr e-bost hwn yn cynrychioli barn y sawl a enwir uchod, felly nid ydyw'n dilyn ei fod yn cynrychioli barn Cyngor Sir Ddinbych. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager using the details below. The contents of this email represent the views of the individual(s) named above and do not necessarily represent the views of Denbighshire County Council. Cyngor Sir Ddinbych, Ffordd Wynnstay, Rhuthun. LL15 1YN. Denbighshire County Council, Wynnstay Road, Ruthin. LL15 1YN. Teleffon\Telephone: (+44) 01824 706000 http://www.sirddinbych.gov.uk http://www.denbighshire.gov.uk * -- To unsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe MAPINFO-L" in the message body, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MI Re: poor mapinfo support for file opening in older versions
Thanks Cattaneo fro bringing this one up I have found that Mapinfo has a very poor backwards support for file formats. We started originally with v4 16 bit and for most but not all users have moved up each version thru maintenance to 5.5. When we switched to 4.5 we expected problems in backwards compatibility due to the node and line type changes, due to mbx needs and old copies of 4.1 floating about we kept a 16 bit version of 4.1 running to maintain compaltibility of our corporate map data and most data is maintained to match older line styles, the 32.000 node plines and polys are only rarely encountered. We have found the saving of files which should not constitute a problem to older version a total mess. All the old 4.1 and even mac versions report table x.tab cannot be opened but version 4.5 can. A simple number change in a text editor fixes the tab file , older versions in nearly all situations then open file. This process apart from time consuming is an alien concept to most of our users who are trying to send maps to collegues with older versions. I don't expect that MI go as far as MS in the way it produces file opening plugins for older versions but Why oh why can Mapinfo not implement a 'save a V4.0' option in the filesave table/workspace menu for workspaces and tables like it does for v2 thereby reducing organisations with multiple platforms / version this hassle. Could this one be added to the wish list ??? thanks for listening Adrian Therefore we open that workspace in a text editor, so that we can change the heather-line: * !version 450 instead of 550 * !charset WindowsLatin1 As a result all the saved tables which appeared correctly on the screen in MI 5.5 are gone in MI 4.5. Did everyone else experienced the same kind of trouble using two different versions of MapInfo? Or which functions changed in MI 5.5 that cause those troubles? By the way I've read the mails of Mats Elfstrom and Steve Wallace concerning that the buffer does not work correctly in MI 5.5 as a windows solution. Yesterday we used the buffer tool and were surprised that in the windows version the buffers look like eggs. So that we took that table to the good old Mac and were very much surprised that MI 4.0 for Mac shows the buffers correctly as circles. * _ * * |_|/~\^\_ Adrian Walls, North Wales* * _/_ * :. 14 Tyn Llan,Llanferres,Denbighshire,CH7 5SP, UK * * // |:' [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * - \: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * / : http://www.nwmba.demon.co.uk * * \: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * */ : AOL Instant Message Username : MacMTBman * * __/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * /~ :. * * ~\-__: * *`--_ ___- : * *\___/ * -- To unsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe MAPINFO-L" in the message body, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MI Placing Text into maps; a tip
How to get nice looking, justified and long text into a map? I just had great luck doing the work in a word processor, then scanning it and opening it in a map window and placing it in layout within a frame. I find that creating text in Photoshop then saving as tiff or whatever produces not only nice contolled text, but you can develop text blocks similar to rubber stamp which can be added to your layout as and when you would use such items, such as draft, confidential, copyright etc adrian * _ * * |_|/~\^\_ Adrian Walls, North Wales* * _/_ * :. 14 Tyn Llan,Llanferres,Denbighshire,CH7 5SP, UK * * // |:' [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * - \: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * / : http://www.nwmba.demon.co.uk * * \: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * */ : AOL Instant Message Username : MacMTBman * * __/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * /~ :. * * ~\-__: * *`--_ ___- : * *\___/ * -- To unsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe MAPINFO-L" in the message body, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MI: Exporting a Postscript file
Hi Russ sorry it's taken a week, firstly I have found when using ps drivers on PC's it defaults to the prn option because of the stupidity of dos. I have found before that by simply renaming the .prn to ps has enabled me to carry on with a job, it was a long time ago so my mind is a bit hazy. As far as macs go, the info about a file is not restricted to *.abc but a seperate resource fork where information is also stored on the actual creator application. This is the fundemental reason why pc's can't read standard mac files as they need the dos suffix which mac's dont use, however macs don't need a resouce fork ,and can open pc files by using the dos suffix to identify the file type. Most cross platform software tend to have a component which recognises if you add a dos suffix to a file name and then jigggles with the file to make it pc readable. Whereas with a pc you tell it which application it must use to open *.eps witha mac it first looks using the resource fork to see if you have the application and if not it then gives you a list of applications it feels will open that file. Alternatively it is not bound to honour any dos suffix, it is merely part of the file name eg in photoshop, you can save a tif file and call it picture.jpg, it will save it, and any mac app that opens tiff will will happily open it because the resource fork says it's a tif, if you send the file to a pc as windows throws a wobbler because it tries to open the file as jpg which it is clearly not. Where there is no resource fork such as with a file created on a PC, macs trust your intelligence and generally allow you to try to open it up in any application hence I think if you have file.prn and rename it file.ps the mac will treat it as a postscript if you open it in an application that handles ps assuming my first paragraph is correct As regards the save window as route, I would forget it as the PC has the added benefit of being able to save as a Photoshop 3 file but doing so takes a screen grab with the resolution at 72dpi To work on such files for publication is the pigs ear = silk purse construction method. A somewhat wierd halfway house is to when saving window set the size of the file to a screen size much larger than your monitor, a mac studio could get some improvement by increasing the resolution whilst reducing the image size. One problem with the postscript option is that it can sometimes prove to be a problem if special fonts, such as mapinfo symbols, are not availble on the recipients computer, it is possible that providing the file as both *.ps and *.eps can help. Acrobat PDF is rapidly becoming the design industry's default file standard, and if you bought Acrobat (about £sterling 140, I saw Adobe were selling the writer on special offer for $usd 25) your pdf files can be opened directly in most adobe and competitive graphics packages then manipulated prior to printing. note via list to Mapinfo Corp You have mentioned looking re-examine Mapinfo for the PowerMac, in the meantime could the Mapinfo for PPC symbol library font set be made available on the web site for free download so Mapinfo Professional users with PC's can pass them onto print shops with Macs to do the very job you have ( possibly correctly) said is best done outside of Mapinfo for so long, it's benefit is a limited market, complements the use of your software and you surely can't be losing any intellectual property with such a pro user move. madly mapping Adrian Can anyone tell me how best to export a map as a postscript file that can be e-mailed to a Mac? I have tried printing to a postscript printer as a PRN file and can view it in ghostscript but the Mac at the other end can't read it... They want to import into photoshop Can anyone assist with a fool-proof (and preferably non-cost) method? * _ * * |_|/~\^\_ Adrian Walls, North Wales* * _/_ * :. 14 Tyn Llan,Llanferres,Denbighshire,CH7 5SP, UK * * // |:' [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * - \: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * / : http://www.nwmba.demon.co.uk
