MI-L MB : Point inside region

2004-04-16 Thread Jon Petter Nielsen
Listers,

In an application I need a rapid logical test :

Is a point (object) inside a (one_polygon_) region object or not. 

I feel I'm blind for an obvious and simple way of determining this in MB.

Does anyone have "MB snippets" for such a test ?

I'm on my way making one using 
- Create a line from the point to a new point definitly outside the region 
(MBRvalues+offset)
- Use IntersectNodes
- Count the nodes of the intersection polyline (even number=outside, odd number=inside)

but is there an obvious and simpler way ?

rgds.

Jon Petter Nielsen
Ugland It Group AS
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RE: MI-L MB : Point inside region

2004-04-16 Thread Campbell, Keith A
Jon,

Assuming the point objects are in are separate table to the polygon, all you
need is an SQL statement:-

SELECT * FROM  WHERE obj WITHIN ANY (SELECT obj FROM
) INTO Selection

Then you can check whether the Selection table has any rows in it with
TableInfo or SelectionInfo.

Or have I misunderstood you?

Regards,

Keith

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Listers,

In an application I need a rapid logical test :

Is a point (object) inside a (one_polygon_) region object or not. 

I feel I'm blind for an obvious and simple way of determining this in MB.

Does anyone have "MB snippets" for such a test ?

I'm on my way making one using 
- Create a line from the point to a new point definitly outside the region
(MBRvalues+offset)
- Use IntersectNodes
- Count the nodes of the intersection polyline (even number=outside, odd
number=inside)

but is there an obvious and simpler way ?

rgds.

Jon Petter Nielsen
Ugland It Group AS
+47 6759 2818

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RE: MI-L MB : Point inside region

2004-04-16 Thread Jon Petter Nielsen
Hi,
I got the obvious solution : use the geo operator, simply 

if pObj within rObj 

and I am able to see the light again ..

Thanks

Jon Petter


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Jon,

Assuming the point objects are in are separate table to the polygon, all you
need is an SQL statement:-

SELECT * FROM  WHERE obj WITHIN ANY (SELECT obj FROM
) INTO Selection

Then you can check whether the Selection table has any rows in it with
TableInfo or SelectionInfo.

Or have I misunderstood you?

Regards,

Keith

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Sent: 16 April 2004 08:55
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Subject: MI-L MB : Point inside region


Listers,

In an application I need a rapid logical test :

Is a point (object) inside a (one_polygon_) region object or not. 

I feel I'm blind for an obvious and simple way of determining this in MB.

Does anyone have "MB snippets" for such a test ?

I'm on my way making one using 
- Create a line from the point to a new point definitly outside the region
(MBRvalues+offset)
- Use IntersectNodes
- Count the nodes of the intersection polyline (even number=outside, odd
number=inside)

but is there an obvious and simpler way ?

rgds.

Jon Petter Nielsen
Ugland It Group AS
+47 6759 2818

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MI-L MI-L: Todays wish for next MI Pro

2004-04-16 Thread Uffe Kousgaard
I wish it was possible to set the coordinate system of a TAB file in
mapbasic code: Only the header should be changed, the coordinates should be
left unchanged.

Today it can only be done by exporting to MIF, modifying the MIF header in a
text editor and re-import. Quite tedious and requires a DLL, if it should be
fully automated.

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Re: MI-L MI-L: Todays wish for next MI Pro

2004-04-16 Thread Flavio Hendry
Hi Uffe

did you ever look at "coordination" ? does a great job converting 
multiple files the way you describe.
see: http://www.greatcircle.co.nz/downtm.htm

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:05:49 +0200
Subject: MI-L MI-L: Todays wish for next MI Pro

> I wish it was possible to set the coordinate system of a TAB file in
> mapbasic code: Only the header should be changed, the coordinates
> should be
> left unchanged.
> 
> Today it can only be done by exporting to MIF, modifying the MIF
> header in a
> text editor and re-import. Quite tedious and requires a DLL, if it
> should be
> fully automated.
> 
> Regards
> Uffe
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Re: MI-L MI-L: Todays wish for next MI Pro

2004-04-16 Thread Uffe Kousgaard
Flavio Hendry wrote:
> did you ever look at "coordination" ? does a great job converting
> multiple files the way you describe.
> see: http://www.greatcircle.co.nz/downtm.htm

Hi Flavio,

I have just tested it. What it does is to export to MIF, make the changes
and re-import. This is rather slow with big datasets, when only a few bytes
needs to be changed in the header. This is of course the only way to do it
without resorting to byte manipulation of the MAP file.

MapInfo Corp. should include the proper solution in next version.

Regards
Uffe


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MI-L Floating License

2004-04-16 Thread igpnet
Hello,
I hope someone could confirm, is there such thing as floating license for 
MI installation, like those of AutoCAD installation.

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MI-L MapInfo-L Reminder

2004-04-16 Thread MapInfo-L-Owner
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Re: MI-L MI-L: Todays wish for next MI Pro

2004-04-16 Thread Flavio Hendry
> I have just tested it. What it does is to export to MIF, make the
> changes and re-import. This is rather slow with big datasets, when 
> only a few bytes ...

I know ... however, at least it does the job and I use it all the 
time ... 

You're right that MI should implement that, however it could be rather 
dangerous if you don't know wha you are doing! ... and out of my 
experience most people don't! - in terms of projections, can you eat 
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Re: MI-L Floating License

2004-04-16 Thread Flavio Hendry
Hi Zaini

> I hope someone could confirm, is there such thing as floating license
> for  MI installation, like those of AutoCAD installation.

No, there is no such thing as floating licenses. You can install it on 
a server, however every user needs a license ("named user licensing").
 
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Re: MI-L: Todays wish for next MI Pro

2004-04-16 Thread B. Thoen
On Fri, 16 Apr 2004, Uffe Kousgaard wrote:

> I have just tested it. What it does is to export to MIF, make the changes
> and re-import. This is rather slow with big datasets, when only a few bytes
> needs to be changed in the header. This is of course the only way to do it
> without resorting to byte manipulation of the MAP file.

I think the actual coordinates in the .MAP file are stored differently
depending on the coordinate system specified in the header. They're always 
4-byte integers, but the values stored in them are not always representing 
degrees. But I'd have to check that to be sure.

So if is the case, you will always have to convert all coordinates anyway 
when you change a table's coordinate system. 

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MI-L FME review

2004-04-16 Thread Norm Shea
Jeff and Richard,

You both asked about FME so I¹ll give you a brief critique of what I¹ve
gleaned from it so far.  We are trying to incorporate a bunch of surveyed
data into our MapInfo system.  I had used Universal Translator but was
running into difficulties, getting error messages saying the translation
failed but not really being able to tell why (we¹ve got a small organization
and I¹m  about it for mapping issues).  From what I could tell, newer
versions of AutoCAD files weren¹t able to be translated.  So, after some
posts trying to find about an updated version of UT, I found that it was no
longer supported or that it had morphed into FME.  That is the reason we
went with FME.

As far as the program is concerned, it was a bit pricey,  around $750 USD
but it has worked great.  I have only begun to scratch the surface of all
the various translations it is able to perform.  But for the .dwg
conversions, it has been great.  It separates out the different layers,
makes text layers editable, has numerous projection options, etc.  Again, I
haven¹t used it extensively but have been very pleased with the results so
far.  Hope this helps.  If there are any specific things you¹d like to know,
please feel free to ask me.

Norm



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Re: MI-L: Todays wish for next MI Pro

2004-04-16 Thread Uffe Kousgaard
B. Thoen wrote:

> I think the actual coordinates in the .MAP file are stored differently
> depending on the coordinate system specified in the header. They're
> always 4-byte integers, but the values stored in them are not always
> representing degrees. But I'd have to check that to be sure.

No, they are not always degrees. They are exactly the numbers you see, if
you export to MIF (but stored as 4-byte integers in a clever way).

As you may remember I have written a MAP file parser (part of RW Net,
RouteFinder etc.), so I know the internals of the MAP file :-)

I'm simply aiming at correcting the coordinate definition, in case it is
wrong. No recalculation of coordinates are needed. If I really wanted to, I
could also write this program myself, but I think MapInfo should do it.

Regards
Uffe


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MI-L Disperse points

2004-04-16 Thread Mentes Alexandros
Hi all,


Does anyone have any suggestions on how to randomly disperse points within a region 
boundary? The Mapbasic tool that comes with Mapinfo can only disperse points according 
to zoom level. 



Thank you in advance

Alex


MI-L Create Points

2004-04-16 Thread Mi.List
Hi

I have bee trying to create points in a table via MapBasic...but it only seems to 
create a point for one row, not all rows

If I do it via Table, Create Points, it works finecan anyone shed any light 
please??

I have seen a couple of threads with this issue, but no results

TIA
AndyR

Re: MI-L Create Points

2004-04-16 Thread Bill Thoen
You've got to update each record with it's own created point. It
sounds like you're either creating all points in the same spot,
or you're updating the whole table with each point (also putting
them all in the same spot.) 

"Mi.List" wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I have bee trying to create points in a table via MapBasic...but it only seems 
> to create a point for one row, not all rows
> 
> If I do it via Table, Create Points, it works finecan anyone shed any light 
> please??
> 
> I have seen a couple of threads with this issue, but no results
> 
> TIA
> AndyR

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MI-L Rollback / Revert

2004-04-16 Thread Niemiec, Neal








I have a script that runs through and updates some columns.
I am noticing that the operations slow down and I believe it is the result of
MapInfo storing the blank data so it can be reverted. I would like to turn off
the Rollback / Revert feature. Anybody know how to do that?

 

Thanks, Neal

 

 



 

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MI-L MB: Manipulating objects with MapBasic

2004-04-16 Thread Tim.Nuteson
I'm trying to write some MB code to take two overlapping objects (stored
in MB object variables) and return an object representing their
intersection.  It seems that all the 'Create Object' and 'Objects ...'
commands require me to have these objects stored in MI tables, or
selected, or set to be the "target" or something.  

Though I could use tables, I don't really want to -  I just want to do
this in memory, with variables.  Is it possible?  Seems like it should
be and I'm just overlooking the necessary command or function.

Any help appreciated, will sum.

Thanks

Tim Nuteson
Target

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MI-L Why is layer opening over LA?

2004-04-16 Thread Cummings, Mike
I have been working on a Map of California and this is a Friday
afternoon type of question.  I've tried to pay attention to the map
window when I have saved, packed and closed the file; I have made a
point of having the bay area in the map window but when I open the file
it goes back to Southern California.  I just sorted, "saved file as" and
opened the new file.  I expected to have two files that had the same map
view when I opened them.  They were different. (both is Southern
California)  

It's Friday and tried of scrolling north every time I open the file.
Can someone explain why are these files opening where they are?


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RE: MI-L MB: Manipulating objects with MapBasic

2004-04-16 Thread Warren Vick, Europa Technologies Ltd.
Hi Tim,

Try the overlap() function!

Regards,
Warren Vick
Europa Technologies Ltd.
http://www.europa-tech.com

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Subject: MI-L MB: Manipulating objects with MapBasic


I'm trying to write some MB code to take two overlapping objects (stored in
MB object variables) and return an object representing their intersection.
It seems that all the 'Create Object' and 'Objects ...' commands require me
to have these objects stored in MI tables, or selected, or set to be the
"target" or something.  

Though I could use tables, I don't really want to -  I just want to do this
in memory, with variables.  Is it possible?  Seems like it should be and I'm
just overlooking the necessary command or function.

Any help appreciated, will sum.

Thanks

Tim Nuteson
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MI-L SUM: Manipulating objects with MapBasic

2004-04-16 Thread Tim.Nuteson
Thanks to Ian Erickson and Warren Vick:

The MapBasic function Overlap(obj1, obj2) returns the intersection of
two objects.

Tim Nuteson
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Re: MI-L Why is layer opening over LA?

2004-04-16 Thread Uffe Kousgaard
The initial view for a TAB file is stored in the header of the MAP file, but
I have no idea how MapInfo decides what it should be, when a TAB file is
written.

It would probably not be so difficult to make a small mapbasic application,
that updates this info to the current view.

I might have a go at it next time it is raining and I have nothing better to
do :-)

Regards
Uffe Kousgaard


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Subject: MI-L Why is layer opening over LA?


I have been working on a Map of California and this is a Friday
afternoon type of question.  I've tried to pay attention to the map
window when I have saved, packed and closed the file; I have made a
point of having the bay area in the map window but when I open the file
it goes back to Southern California.  I just sorted, "saved file as" and
opened the new file.  I expected to have two files that had the same map
view when I opened them.  They were different. (both is Southern
California)

It's Friday and tried of scrolling north every time I open the file.
Can someone explain why are these files opening where they are?


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Re: MI-L Why is layer opening over LA?

2004-04-16 Thread Bill Thoen
Because there are so many cars on the LA freeways at all times,
this concentration of heavy metal tends to bend the Earth's
magnetic field into a strange attractor over LA. It can drag all
sorts of strange creatures into its vortex including, it appears,
your map.

To fix it, arrange your map as you like it, then open the
MapBasic window and enter:

set map layer MyLayer default zoom 

where "MyLayer" is the name or number of the layer you want to
set at that position and zoom.

- Bill Thoen


"Cummings, Mike" wrote:
> 
> I have been working on a Map of California and this is a Friday
> afternoon type of question.  I've tried to pay attention to the map
> window when I have saved, packed and closed the file; I have made a
> point of having the bay area in the map window but when I open the file
> it goes back to Southern California.  I just sorted, "saved file as" and
> opened the new file.  I expected to have two files that had the same map
> view when I opened them.  They were different. (both is Southern
> California)
> 
> It's Friday and tried of scrolling north every time I open the file.
> Can someone explain why are these files opening where they are?

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RE: MI-L Why is layer opening over LA?

2004-04-16 Thread Juanse
or you can use the Map Window manager Tool and set the default view as you
like it. How are the waves in the Bay?

juanse
temuko-Chile


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> Because there are so many cars on the LA freeways at all times,
> this concentration of heavy metal tends to bend the Earth's
> magnetic field into a strange attractor over LA. It can drag all
> sorts of strange creatures into its vortex including, it appears,
> your map.
>
> To fix it, arrange your map as you like it, then open the
> MapBasic window and enter:
>
> set map layer MyLayer default zoom
>
> where "MyLayer" is the name or number of the layer you want to
> set at that position and zoom.
>
> - Bill Thoen
>
>
> "Cummings, Mike" wrote:
> >
> > I have been working on a Map of California and this is a Friday
> > afternoon type of question.  I've tried to pay attention to the map
> > window when I have saved, packed and closed the file; I have made a
> > point of having the bay area in the map window but when I open the file
> > it goes back to Southern California.  I just sorted, "saved file as" and
> > opened the new file.  I expected to have two files that had the same map
> > view when I opened them.  They were different. (both is Southern
> > California)
> >
> > It's Friday and tried of scrolling north every time I open the file.
> > Can someone explain why are these files opening where they are?
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RE: MI-L Why is layer opening over LA?

2004-04-16 Thread Lawley, Russell S
 
Because there are so many cars on the LA freeways at all times,
this concentration of heavy metal tends to bend the Earth's
magnetic field into a strange attractor over LA. It can drag all
sorts of strange creatures into its vortex including, it appears,
your map.
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spooky, a similar thing happens over here!

I often find British National Grid data supplied by non-Mapinfo users
miraculously 'shrinks' and relocates itself to the west of the Scilly Isles.
after many years of geo research i put this down to some form of hitherto
unknown magnetic/ gravity anomaly caused by some deep seated metallic ore
depositI wonder how many other areas are affected by this magnetic
phenomenon.?

R

Brit. Geol. Surv
www.bgs.ac.uk




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