Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
This note was posted by Drew Le 2011-12-12 09:22, drew a écrit : Howdy, Recently there has been interest in getting a calendar, listing events an items of interest to the LibreOffice community and I would suspect it would be of equal interest to the OpenOfice community as well. I've tried to be pro-active in this regards and have setup a web based calendar for just such a purpose. I'm looking for help in assembling calendar entries focused on Free Open Source office tools supporting the OpenDocument Format (ODF) standard. Anyone can post events, comments or messages to the calendar without registering at the site - new posts from non-registered individuals will need to be moderated before being added to public access views. So, I'd also be interested, quite, in anyone that would like to help maintain the calendar with me. The calendar events can be added to your web sites via RSS feed, our any iCal and other client. The calendar web interface is found at: http://lo-portal.us/cal/ Details (more to come) including syndication links are available at: (yet another new site that went up this week) http://lo-portal.us/oucv/node/3 Thanks in advance for any help and I'm looking forward to any questions anyone may have about ways to utilize the service. Best wishes, //drew While I feel appreciative of this, I am a little disappointed that you have jumped the discussion thread on this and gone ahead without discussing it with the list where we are in fact discussing setting up a LibreOffice calendar. Maybe you missed this discussion? We really need to include people in on the discussion who are interested in working on a calendar solution. I would think that your calendar could be taken up as an example that we could adopt. I will post this note on the thread where we are discussing the calendar. You may want to read through the post to familiarize yourself with the discussion. Cheers Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Le 2011-12-08 07:30, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : Hi Marc, I hate fullquotes. I really do. If you know the person from whom it comes from just assume that there is something that is really being emphasized or misunderstood of the quote ... or that there has been lack of sleep. :-) In my case it's a little of both. What of the above isn't answering your question? I could write the same again: go to http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/events and play around, to filter it use the calendar widget or the following URLs I thought that there was just more to it. I thought that I could log in to see how easy/difficult it would be to insert an event so that I could evaluate the difficulty of having other people joining to help admin the calendar. When I log in as admin, I am at a loss as to where would I go to add an event. I should have been more explicit in my note. BTW ... here is another example of a calendering system that I use on my Zikula CMS site[1]. I run one of the largest site on early music found on on the internet. I am presently re-evaluating the calendar plugin as it I still have another 2000 entries and the site has already slowed down considerably with only about 600 entries (just hit the "Home" button to see the results). I also used to run a few WebCalendar[2] sites but also dropped these for a number of reasons mostly due to the ease of use on the admin side. - but I repeat myself so often in other threads ciao Christian Yup, I know where you are coming from. Such is the nature of mailing lists where most users would not be reading the past posts. I see repetition as more of making sure all people involved really understand and making it fair for late comers to the discussion. Still, frustrating but necessary ... I'm a school teacher ... repetition is standard in our business. Don't forget that we really are appreciative and thankful of your help and work. Cheers, Marc [1] http://www.musiqueancienne.org/index.php?module=PostCalendar&func=view&viewtype=month&Date=2011120800 [2] http://www.k5n.us/webcalendar.php -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hallo Christian, Am 08.12.2011 13:30, schrieb Christian Lohmaier: > What of the above isn't answering your question? For me, the following issue is still unclear: Am 26.11.2011 22:28, schrieb Marc Paré: > Le 2011-11-26 12:46, Stefan Weigel a écrit : >> I am still dreaming ;-) of a common database for all events. >> Some of them are of global interest, some of them are of local >> interest only, and some of them are both. It would be pretty to >> have them all in one data source, rather than having a global >> calendar and several local calendars separately, with the need >> to synchronize data manually, if some events are to appear in >> more than one of these calendars. > Most decent calendar systems do this with filtering. This is of > no problem at all. Are we getting these filtering features? Can the calendar (itself) and the calendar entries be localized and still be based on the same calendar database? (That would be very, very cool.) :-) Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hi Marc, I hate fullquotes. I really do. On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 2:47 AM, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2011-11-23 10:14, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : >> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Andreas Mantke wrote: >>> Am Montag, 21. November 2011, 22:06:14 schrieb Marc Paré: Le 2011-11-21 15:12, Andreas Mantke a écrit : >>> [...] >> >> Added those to the calendar on the website and published it (but not >> linked in menu) >> >> http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/events >> >> default view: shows future events, currently max. 10 (can be configured) >> >> Allows to filter by date via the calendar widget at the right or also >> via URL, for example to show all events in 2011 use >> http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/events/view/2011 (added the evence >> back then when I added the event module to the site) >> for all events in February 2012 use >> http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/events/view/2012-02 >> for all events between January 1st and February 29 2012 >> http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/events/view/2012-01-01/2012-02-29 >> (you get the idea, you can be precise in the dates, or shorten it to >> month or year only, for both simple ones as well as for ranges. >> >> All of the events currently in the calendar are of the simple >> "announcement" type, but you can also create Event Pages that have >> their own/dedicated page on the website. > > Is there a way I could test the SilverStripe calendar? How would I go about > testing it? What of the above isn't answering your question? I could write the same again: go to http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/events and play around, to filter it use the calendar widget or the following URLs - but I repeat myself so often in other threads ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Le 2011-11-23 10:14, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Andreas Mantke wrote: Hi Marc, Am Montag, 21. November 2011, 22:06:14 schrieb Marc Paré: Hi Andreas Le 2011-11-21 15:12, Andreas Mantke a écrit : (...) If nobody objects I will start with a new wiki page for the events of 2012. I miss a column for the cfp in the current page and will add that two the new site. Regards, Andreas Good one. I also had this on my to-do list. It would be nice if we could have something like the sourceforge people who list FOSS events here: http://sourceforge.net/blog/calendar-of-open-source-software-events/. I had suggested at one point of combining the sourceforce google calendar with our own and this would also help us plan for upcoming events. If you do a search of the marketing/website lists under "calendar" you will find that there have already been discussions on calendar implementation either on the wiki or website. What you suggest would be great, even if it were only a temporary update. I created the wiki page at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2012 and filled in the events for Europe that I always know. Added those to the calendar on the website and published it (but not linked in menu) http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/events default view: shows future events, currently max. 10 (can be configured) Allows to filter by date via the calendar widget at the right or also via URL, for example to show all events in 2011 use http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/events/view/2011 (added the evence back then when I added the event module to the site) for all events in February 2012 use http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/events/view/2012-02 for all events between January 1st and February 29 2012 http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/events/view/2012-01-01/2012-02-29 (you get the idea, you can be precise in the dates, or shorten it to month or year only, for both simple ones as well as for ranges. All of the events currently in the calendar are of the simple "announcement" type, but you can also create Event Pages that have their own/dedicated page on the website. ciao Christian Hi Christian, Is there a way I could test the SilverStripe calendar? How would I go about testing it? Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
HI Stefan, Le 2011-11-26 12:46, Stefan Weigel a écrit : I am still dreaming ;-) of a common database for all events. Some of them are of global interest, some of them are of local interest only, and some of them are both. It would be pretty to have them all in one data source, rather than having a global calendar and several local calendars separately, with the need to synchronize data manually, if some events are to appear in more than one of these calendars. Stefan Most decent calendar systems do this with filtering. This is of no problem at all. Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hi Christian, Am 26.11.2011 18:08, schrieb Christian Lohmaier: >> Will there be a possibility to separate the info, that is targetted >> to website visitors, from the info, that is targetted to booth staff >> et cetera? > But of course > you can just add a link to the wiki dealing with the specific event. > If you need dedicated info for "booth staff etc", then you will > probably have a dedicated page anyway. Ok. This sounds practicable to me. > The Event calendar is a special page in the CMS - so anyone who has > access to the cms can edit the data. I am still dreaming ;-) of a common database for all events. Some of them are of global interest, some of them are of local interest only, and some of them are both. It would be pretty to have them all in one data source, rather than having a global calendar and several local calendars separately, with the need to synchronize data manually, if some events are to appear in more than one of these calendars. Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hi Stefan, *, On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Stefan Weigel wrote: > Am 25.11.2011 12:11, schrieb Christian Lohmaier: >> [...] >> Nah, the idea would not to have it twice, but only in silverstripe - >> if you need it elsewhere you can write a short script to convert a rss >> feed of something like that. > > Would the calendar module hold organizational information as well? > For example: Well, you can enter whatever information you want. There is no extra fields for that in the input-form if that is what you meant. And you are not limited to the announcement-type style of Events, but can create Event Pages, i.e. regular HTML pages with whatever content you like. > Will there be a possibility to separate the info, that is targetted > to website visitors, from the info, that is targetted to booth staff > et cetera? No - at least I don't know how this should look like. But of course you can just add a link to the wiki dealing with the specific event. If you need dedicated info for "booth staff etc", then you will probably have a dedicated page anyway. So once again I'm not sure how that separation should look like. > Can booth staff and speakers easily access the calendars data base, > in order to edit the organizational information? The Event calendar is a special page in the CMS - so anyone who has access to the cms can edit the data. > For the latter, a wiki page would be the best. But then, as > explained, we suffer from redundant/inconsistent data storage. :-/ Well - info for participants is not what I'd call duplication - as you were asking for separation anyway. Now it is separated into two different platforms, so no big deal (IMHO). ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hi Le 2011-11-25 08:04, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : Hmm - I see a 414. That’s an error. The requested URL /... is too large to process. That’s all we know. So the main question is: Shall we use Google calendar instead of our own? ciao Christian Sorry, I was AFK. Try again? Let me know what you think. Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hi Marc, *, On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Marc Paré wrote: >> [Categories for calendar] >> The suggestions were just examples of what could be added as the >> categories for events were being added. The more I think about it, the less I like the idea of fixed categories. I guess I'd rather extend the calendar to allow for tags instead. As long as the user is fine with filtering only by one single tag, this is easy (can use simple URLs for that). If the user wants to include more tags, then a manually crafted URL will do. If people have some discipline/agreement over what tags to use, I guess this will work better than categories. (Categories as I'm thinking of are limited to one category per calendar entry, while with tags you can have multiple ones) >> [Example of using Google Calendar] >> [1] http://parentreprise.com >> > I got rid of the error message. Hmm - I see a 414. That’s an error. The requested URL /... is too large to process. That’s all we know. So the main question is: Shall we use Google calendar instead of our own? ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Le 2011-11-25 06:51, Marc Paré a écrit : Hi Christian et al Le 2011-11-25 06:11, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : Nah, the idea would not to have it twice, but only in silverstripe - if you need it elsewhere you can write a short script to convert a rss feed of something like that. If the geographic categories "All, Europe, North/South America (and probably a missing Asia)" are enough, then I can add them to the silverstripe calendar and you'll have the same info as on the wiki page. Marc did suggest more categories, but I think those are excessive... ciao Christian The suggestions were just examples of what could be added as the categories for events were being added. Anyway, you can find an example of a Google calendar with categories[1]. Just ignore the note that says: "Events from one or more calendars could not be shown here because you do not have the permission to view them." The events would be added from the main Google calendar account and the account can be shared with multiple people. You can toggle the categories from the right hand button (next to "Agenda") Even better, we are using Google's servers, they take care of the admin -- backups etc. Cheers, Marc [1] http://parentreprise.com I got rid of the error message. Anyway, it's just an example of what we could have, and, some members would be familiar with filling events in Google Agenda. Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hallo Christian, Am 25.11.2011 12:11, schrieb Christian Lohmaier: >>> and the calendar modul >>> of Silverstripe or a embedded Google calendar. >> >> Hm. Yet another place, where the data about the events have to be >> updated manually, in addition to the wiki pages. > > Nah, the idea would not to have it twice, but only in silverstripe - > if you need it elsewhere you can write a short script to convert a rss > feed of something like that. Would the calendar module hold organizational information as well? For example: http://www.2shared.com/photo/ObliY9AC/Bildschirmfoto.html Will there be a possibility to separate the info, that is targetted to website visitors, from the info, that is targetted to booth staff et cetera? Can booth staff and speakers easily access the calendars data base, in order to edit the organizational information? For the latter, a wiki page would be the best. But then, as explained, we suffer from redundant/inconsistent data storage. :-/ > If the geographic categories "All, Europe, North/South America (and > probably a missing Asia)" are enough, then I can add them to the > silverstripe calendar and you'll have the same info as on the wiki > page. Don´t forget the info on the subpages Events/de Events/es Events/fr Events/it and so on, that intentionally do not contain all events from the main page but some additional events, that are not on the main page. But they do contain some Events from the main page. For these, consistency of information should be assured. Gruß Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hi Christian et al Le 2011-11-25 06:11, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : Nah, the idea would not to have it twice, but only in silverstripe - if you need it elsewhere you can write a short script to convert a rss feed of something like that. If the geographic categories "All, Europe, North/South America (and probably a missing Asia)" are enough, then I can add them to the silverstripe calendar and you'll have the same info as on the wiki page. Marc did suggest more categories, but I think those are excessive... ciao Christian The suggestions were just examples of what could be added as the categories for events were being added. Anyway, you can find an example of a Google calendar with categories[1]. Just ignore the note that says: "Events from one or more calendars could not be shown here because you do not have the permission to view them." The events would be added from the main Google calendar account and the account can be shared with multiple people. You can toggle the categories from the right hand button (next to "Agenda") Even better, we are using Google's servers, they take care of the admin -- backups etc. Cheers, Marc [1] http://parentreprise.com -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hi :) I think stick with the categories that were in the 2011 calendar but only create them for 2012 as and when they are needed. There's no point in having an empty category. If we had a proper calendar rather than a wiki then more categories might be a good idea but on a wiki it seems best to minimalise headings a bit. Just my 2cents Regards from Tom :) --- On Fri, 25/11/11, Christian Lohmaier wrote: From: Christian Lohmaier Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012 To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Date: Friday, 25 November, 2011, 11:11 Hi Stefan, *, On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Stefan Weigel wrote: > [...] >> and the calendar modul >> of Silverstripe or a embedded Google calendar. > > Hm. Yet another place, where the data about the events have to be > updated manually, in addition to the wiki pages. Nah, the idea would not to have it twice, but only in silverstripe - if you need it elsewhere you can write a short script to convert a rss feed of something like that. If the geographic categories "All, Europe, North/South America (and probably a missing Asia)" are enough, then I can add them to the silverstripe calendar and you'll have the same info as on the wiki page. Marc did suggest more categories, but I think those are excessive... ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hi Stefan, *, On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Stefan Weigel wrote: > [...] >> and the calendar modul >> of Silverstripe or a embedded Google calendar. > > Hm. Yet another place, where the data about the events have to be > updated manually, in addition to the wiki pages. Nah, the idea would not to have it twice, but only in silverstripe - if you need it elsewhere you can write a short script to convert a rss feed of something like that. If the geographic categories "All, Europe, North/South America (and probably a missing Asia)" are enough, then I can add them to the silverstripe calendar and you'll have the same info as on the wiki page. Marc did suggest more categories, but I think those are excessive... ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hi :) I like the proposed page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events for the short-term. It neatly deals with most of the issues. Wiki-pages get harder to edit (especially on low-spec machines) when they get really long so a "proper" calendar would still be good even tho it is much less urgent now imo. Regards from Tom :) --- On Fri, 25/11/11, Stefan Weigel wrote: From: Stefan Weigel Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012 To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Date: Friday, 25 November, 2011, 7:04 Hallo Andreas, Am 24.11.2011 20:19, schrieb Andreas Mantke: >> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2012 >> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/de >> >> One will have to follow both, in order to get all available information. >> >> It´s a pity, that I don´t have the time to create a DB and bring it >> up. :-/ > > Hmm. That maybe a task for the future, when we attend a big bunch of events. Okay. Until then, I would suggest not to create a two-dimensional structure of subpages (one dimension for language/region, one dimension for the year), but rather keep the single structure of subpages for languages/regions and create a main paragraph for each year on each page. I did that as my proposal on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events However, I did not mark the page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2012 for deletion yet. > Currently I think, we can manage the events with a wiki page Hm. The problem is, it´s not a single wiki page, but a bunch of pages and some events are listed redundantly on several pages. Think, if you are about to add some usefull information about LinuxTag 2012, would you sure remember to edit two wiki pages synchronously? > and the calendar modul > of Silverstripe or a embedded Google calendar. Hm. Yet another place, where the data about the events have to be updated manually, in addition to the wiki pages. Gruß Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hi Andreas et al Le 2011-11-24 14:19, Andreas Mantke a écrit : I think, this diserves a relational database, rather than a set of wiki pages. In a wiki, we will end up with several pages, none of them complete, many of them inconsistent. For example look at ChemnitzerLinuxTage and LinuxTag on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2012 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/de One will have to follow both, in order to get all available information. It´s a pity, that I don´t have the time to create a DB and bring it up. :-/ Hmm. That maybe a task for the future, when we attend a big bunch of events. Currently I think, we can manage the events with a wiki page and the calendar modul of Silverstripe or a embedded Google calendar. Regards, Andreas Unfortunately, Andreas, this is true. However, if we can manage, right from the start, an organized way of inputting our events, then all people inputting events would follow the same template; events would be categorized; participants would be noted in the events data. This would allow us to go back and evaluate our success at event participation and show LibreOffice users that we are organized at inputting events. I would favour a website-based calendar for inputting events rather than a wiki page. There are enough of us now with admin rights to Silverstripe to input the events as they come up. And, even better, maybe some member(s) would take the initiative and input future events where a "call for participants" could be made on the lists. There would be no need to keep making up different wiki pages, the calendar database take care of storing the events. If we can do a website calendar-based events registry then there is no reason to do it now. We just need someone to put it on the site and let us "users" who are interested in filling it start using it. No need for a wiki if we are using a calendar. Otherwise we are constantly trying to update too many pages. Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hallo Andreas, Am 24.11.2011 20:19, schrieb Andreas Mantke: >> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2012 >> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/de >> >> One will have to follow both, in order to get all available information. >> >> It´s a pity, that I don´t have the time to create a DB and bring it >> up. :-/ > > Hmm. That maybe a task for the future, when we attend a big bunch of events. Okay. Until then, I would suggest not to create a two-dimensional structure of subpages (one dimension for language/region, one dimension for the year), but rather keep the single structure of subpages for languages/regions and create a main paragraph for each year on each page. I did that as my proposal on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events However, I did not mark the page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2012 for deletion yet. > Currently I think, we can manage the events with a wiki page Hm. The problem is, it´s not a single wiki page, but a bunch of pages and some events are listed redundantly on several pages. Think, if you are about to add some usefull information about LinuxTag 2012, would you sure remember to edit two wiki pages synchronously? > and the calendar modul > of Silverstripe or a embedded Google calendar. Hm. Yet another place, where the data about the events have to be updated manually, in addition to the wiki pages. Gruß Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
01:19 Friday 25 November 2011 Dear Tom: I agree that MySQL is not a good choice because of Oracle. There are some other databases that may be worthy of consideration besides MariaDB. I understand that MariaDB is intended as a dropin replacement for MySQL and that there is value in this compatibility with the LAMP and other implementation paradigms from the link at: http://kb.askmonty.org/en/mariadb-versus-mysql. What about considering PostgreSQL? While the following link, http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/MySQL_vs_PostgreSQL is not directly applicable to the MariaDB fork there are many valid points for consideration. The same with this other less recent link: http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Why_PostgreSQL_Instead_of_MySQL_2009. Drizzle is the other fork which got my attention because of its addressing modern CPU architectures, see: http://www.drizzle.org/content/about-drizzle-project and http://docs.drizzle.org/brief_history_of_drizzle.html for a quick overview. From their home page the positive affirmative statement that it is ACID transactional is worth exploring further. My focus comes from a hardware view and what will be the most efficient for processing and then the ease for programming and future scalability. When I think of scalability I also think of being able to include Unicode along with different regional data representations. The idea is to be able to design so the model can be used for other purposes as well. Until you wrote about MariaDB I was not aware of the fork or that of Drizzle. All the Best, Volodymyr- -Original Message- From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 5:13 AM To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012 Hi :) My vote would be for MariaDb. Is anyone on this list also on the Web-design List? I think it would be best to ask them to set-up the Database? Errr, MySql is run by Oracle so it might be worth avoiding using that one! MariaDb forked off and is a drop-in replacement for it in much the same way that Libreffice is a drop-in replacement for OpenOffice (ie MariaDb has developed a lot faster than MySql recently) Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 24/11/11, Stefan Weigel wrote: From: Stefan Weigel Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012 To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 24 November, 2011, 6:50 Hallo Andreas, Am 23.11.2011 21:21, schrieb Andreas Mantke: > could you fix that please (it's a wiki ;-) I am not sure, how to fix that in a wiki. :-) There are several types of events in different regions of the world, some of global interest, some only for some native languages, some both. We want to keep track of them as well as keep an archive. We want to apply organizational info, such as who is at the booth, who will be there for a talk. I think, this diserves a relational database, rather than a set of wiki pages. In a wiki, we will end up with several pages, none of them complete, many of them inconsistent. For example look at ChemnitzerLinuxTage and LinuxTag on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2012 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/de One will have to follow both, in order to get all available information. It´s a pity, that I don´t have the time to create a DB and bring it up. :-/ Gruß Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hi Stefan, Am Donnerstag, 24. November 2011, 07:50:25 schrieb Stefan Weigel: > Hallo Andreas, > > Am 23.11.2011 21:21, schrieb Andreas Mantke: > > could you fix that please (it's a wiki ;-) > > I am not sure, how to fix that in a wiki. :-) > > There are several types of events in different regions of the world, > some of global interest, some only for some native languages, some > both. We want to keep track of them as well as keep an archive. We > want to apply organizational info, such as who is at the booth, who > will be there for a talk. > what about a main page for events in general with links to subpages for every year. It would be easy to copy the content from the site for 2012 to the site for 2013 then and adapt the data. The sites for 2012 could stay for the archive then. > I think, this diserves a relational database, rather than a set of > wiki pages. In a wiki, we will end up with several pages, none of > them complete, many of them inconsistent. For example look at > ChemnitzerLinuxTage and LinuxTag on > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2012 > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/de > > One will have to follow both, in order to get all available information. > > It´s a pity, that I don´t have the time to create a DB and bring it > up. :-/ Hmm. That maybe a task for the future, when we attend a big bunch of events. Currently I think, we can manage the events with a wiki page and the calendar modul of Silverstripe or a embedded Google calendar. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hi :) My vote would be for MariaDb. Is anyone on this list also on the Web-design List? I think it would be best to ask them to set-up the Database? Errr, MySql is run by Oracle so it might be worth avoiding using that one! MariaDb forked off and is a drop-in replacement for it in much the same way that Libreffice is a drop-in replacement for OpenOffice (ie MariaDb has developed a lot faster than MySql recently) Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 24/11/11, Stefan Weigel wrote: From: Stefan Weigel Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012 To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 24 November, 2011, 6:50 Hallo Andreas, Am 23.11.2011 21:21, schrieb Andreas Mantke: > could you fix that please (it's a wiki ;-) I am not sure, how to fix that in a wiki. :-) There are several types of events in different regions of the world, some of global interest, some only for some native languages, some both. We want to keep track of them as well as keep an archive. We want to apply organizational info, such as who is at the booth, who will be there for a talk. I think, this diserves a relational database, rather than a set of wiki pages. In a wiki, we will end up with several pages, none of them complete, many of them inconsistent. For example look at ChemnitzerLinuxTage and LinuxTag on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2012 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/de One will have to follow both, in order to get all available information. It´s a pity, that I don´t have the time to create a DB and bring it up. :-/ Gruß Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hallo Andreas, Am 23.11.2011 21:21, schrieb Andreas Mantke: > could you fix that please (it's a wiki ;-) I am not sure, how to fix that in a wiki. :-) There are several types of events in different regions of the world, some of global interest, some only for some native languages, some both. We want to keep track of them as well as keep an archive. We want to apply organizational info, such as who is at the booth, who will be there for a talk. I think, this diserves a relational database, rather than a set of wiki pages. In a wiki, we will end up with several pages, none of them complete, many of them inconsistent. For example look at ChemnitzerLinuxTage and LinuxTag on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2012 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/de One will have to follow both, in order to get all available information. It´s a pity, that I don´t have the time to create a DB and bring it up. :-/ Gruß Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hi Stefan, Am Mittwoch, 23. November 2011, 14:12:50 schrieb Stefan Weigel: > Hallo Andreas, > > Am 22.11.2011 21:52, schrieb Andreas Mantke: > > I created the wiki page at > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2012 and filled in the events > > for Europe that I always know. > > Hm. It´s not easy for one to keep track on the events. > > How does a visitor of the main page > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events know, that there is a > subpage ./2012? > > Did you see the localized pages, that are automatically linked from > the main page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events on the top. > > For example, there are already events in 2012 at > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/de? However the language > link for "de" from the new ./2012 page you created leads to "Diese > Seite enthält momentan noch keinen Text. Du kannst ihren Titel auf > anderen Seiten suchen oder die zugehörigen Logbücher betrachten." could you fix that please (it's a wiki ;-) Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hi Christian, Le 2011-11-23 09:48, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : Hi Marc, *, On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2011-11-22 15:52, Andreas Mantke a écrit : Am Montag, 21. November 2011, 22:06:14 schrieb Marc Paré: [requirements for web-calendar] -- able to categorize events -- when inputting events, we should be able to choose the language and/or various other categories such as TDF Board meeting, conferences, Plugfests, etc. Users could then filter their calendar views as needed. Predefined categories are possible. Although I don't think the regular meetings should be added tot he calendar, for recurring meetings, a dedicated page that lists the weekly or monthly schedule is more appropriate. If we are to be transparent, then we should have ALL meetings showing on our calendar. New visitors and prospective members will have an easier time seeing the frequency of meetings for the different sections of the LibreOffice project and, yes, I think the TDF SC meetings should also show on the calendar. It should be a place where all people are served. It would also show how much of a vibrant and open community that we are. We need to get more people involved in the project as there are still too few of us trying to manage it. Having all of the events at a glance on a calendar month, for example will keep each section appraised of each other's schedule and avoid double booking on some days, and, may encourage our users to join our membership and help out in a more active way or maybe even listen in on the meetings. Listing meetings on a dedicated page just makes it harder and frustrating for users to find these pages. It's just one more hurdle for users to handle when we could just add these to the calendar and tag them as weekly meetings or monthly meetings once. I don't see the reason for making it more difficult for people to see when meetings are occurring when it could easily be done through a calendar. That leaving the choice for categories - what categories would you like to see? Are there really that many events that filtering by category is necessary? Categorization normally starts on a small scale and will eventually grow as more people get involved in a project. Having the ability to categorize/filter is what we should aim for. It would also be nice to have this ability for the marketing purposes so that we could better analyze the breakdown of dates for marketing plans. So, categories would then include (at this point): Conferences CFP or CFA deadline dates (Call for papers/articles) "Reminder" dates for various events where a nudge to users/members is necessary Seminars (for example: LibreOffice help sessions at LUGs, Colleges, Universities) TDF SC meetings Voting dates/deadlines Developer meetings Plugfest meetings Design meetings Documentation meetings Marketing meetings Other or Miscellaneous (where an event does not fit in any category) OR -- able to add other calendars into a "master" calendar where a user could switch on/off the calendar view. This is done extremely well with Google Calendar. This could be realized via the ics/rss imports/exports - although I don't really think it is necessary. Looking at the wiki page we have less than 40 events in 2011, and 2012 currently is at 4. So I don't quite see the need for categories. The conferences where LibreOffice participated and had some presence in 2011 should be pre-filled for 2012 and left open for members/users to sign-up. Most conferences are announced at least 1 year in advance and we should fill these in, if possible, a year or months in advance so that members can plan on participating. We may be able to man more conferences if we post them on the calendar thus allowing more time for members to plan to attend. The calendar then also becomes a booking tool for conferences. Same for sectional meetings. Cheers Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Andreas Mantke wrote: > Hi Marc, > > Am Montag, 21. November 2011, 22:06:14 schrieb Marc Paré: >> Hi Andreas >> >> Le 2011-11-21 15:12, Andreas Mantke a écrit : > (...) >> > If nobody objects I will start with a new wiki page for the events of >> > 2012. I miss a column for the cfp in the current page and will add that >> > two the new site. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Andreas >> >> Good one. I also had this on my to-do list. It would be nice if we could >> have something like the sourceforge people who list FOSS events here: >> http://sourceforge.net/blog/calendar-of-open-source-software-events/. I >> had suggested at one point of combining the sourceforce google calendar >> with our own and this would also help us plan for upcoming events. If >> you do a search of the marketing/website lists under "calendar" you will >> find that there have already been discussions on calendar implementation >> either on the wiki or website. >> >> What you suggest would be great, even if it were only a temporary update. > > I created the wiki page at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2012 > and filled > in the events for Europe that I always know. Added those to the calendar on the website and published it (but not linked in menu) http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/events default view: shows future events, currently max. 10 (can be configured) Allows to filter by date via the calendar widget at the right or also via URL, for example to show all events in 2011 use http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/events/view/2011 (added the evence back then when I added the event module to the site) for all events in February 2012 use http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/events/view/2012-02 for all events between January 1st and February 29 2012 http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/events/view/2012-01-01/2012-02-29 (you get the idea, you can be precise in the dates, or shorten it to month or year only, for both simple ones as well as for ranges. All of the events currently in the calendar are of the simple "announcement" type, but you can also create Event Pages that have their own/dedicated page on the website. ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hi Marc, *, On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2011-11-22 15:52, Andreas Mantke a écrit : >> Am Montag, 21. November 2011, 22:06:14 schrieb Marc Paré: > [requirements for web-calendar] > -- able to categorize events -- when inputting events, we should be able to > choose the language and/or various other categories such as TDF Board > meeting, conferences, Plugfests, etc. Users could then filter their calendar > views as needed. Predefined categories are possible. Although I don't think the regular meetings should be added tot he calendar, for recurring meetings, a dedicated page that lists the weekly or monthly schedule is more appropriate. That leaving the choice for categories - what categories would you like to see? Are there really that many events that filtering by category is necessary? > OR > > -- able to add other calendars into a "master" calendar where a user could > switch on/off the calendar view. This is done extremely well with Google > Calendar. This could be realized via the ics/rss imports/exports - although I don't really think it is necessary. Looking at the wiki page we have less than 40 events in 2011, and 2012 currently is at 4. So I don't quite see the need for categories. ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hi :) Ahh, i guess the 2011 events listed on the page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events need to be moved to a sub-page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2011 and the 2012 events put in the main page? Then an opening line stating that there are links to the 'previous' year? Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 23/11/11, Stefan Weigel wrote: From: Stefan Weigel Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012 To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Date: Wednesday, 23 November, 2011, 13:12 Hallo Andreas, Am 22.11.2011 21:52, schrieb Andreas Mantke: > I created the wiki page at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2012 > and filled > in the events for Europe that I always know. Hm. It´s not easy for one to keep track on the events. How does a visitor of the main page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events know, that there is a subpage ./2012? Did you see the localized pages, that are automatically linked from the main page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events on the top. For example, there are already events in 2012 at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/de? However the language link for "de" from the new ./2012 page you created leads to "Diese Seite enthält momentan noch keinen Text. Du kannst ihren Titel auf anderen Seiten suchen oder die zugehörigen Logbücher betrachten." Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hallo Andreas, Am 22.11.2011 21:52, schrieb Andreas Mantke: > I created the wiki page at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2012 > and filled > in the events for Europe that I always know. Hm. It´s not easy for one to keep track on the events. How does a visitor of the main page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events know, that there is a subpage ./2012? Did you see the localized pages, that are automatically linked from the main page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events on the top. For example, there are already events in 2012 at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/de? However the language link for "de" from the new ./2012 page you created leads to "Diese Seite enthält momentan noch keinen Text. Du kannst ihren Titel auf anderen Seiten suchen oder die zugehörigen Logbücher betrachten." Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Le 2011-11-22 15:52, Andreas Mantke a écrit : Hi Marc, Am Montag, 21. November 2011, 22:06:14 schrieb Marc Paré: Hi Andreas Le 2011-11-21 15:12, Andreas Mantke a écrit : (...) If nobody objects I will start with a new wiki page for the events of 2012. I miss a column for the cfp in the current page and will add that two the new site. Regards, Andreas Good one. I also had this on my to-do list. It would be nice if we could have something like the sourceforge people who list FOSS events here: http://sourceforge.net/blog/calendar-of-open-source-software-events/. I had suggested at one point of combining the sourceforce google calendar with our own and this would also help us plan for upcoming events. If you do a search of the marketing/website lists under "calendar" you will find that there have already been discussions on calendar implementation either on the wiki or website. What you suggest would be great, even if it were only a temporary update. I created the wiki page at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2012 and filled in the events for Europe that I always know. I added sections for North and South America. Maybe we need also a section for Asia / Australia. It's a wiki, so everyone could create such a section. I've got the information from Christian Lohmaier that there is calendar add-on in our website (Silverstripe) and we can use it to make our user aware of the events we'll attend next. Regards, Andreas Thanks for doing this. It looks great. I too do not think that past events calendar event be deleted. We should use our past events as reference for future dates. I would also favour a "website-based" calendar as this is the landing point for most users. About the Silverstripe calendar: when I checked into it a while ago, it did not seem to fit some of the criteria that I thought would be important for a useful calendar. A useful events calendar, as well as being able have all the regular input fields for an events calendar, should also offer one of these two abilities: -- able to categorize events -- when inputting events, we should be able to choose the language and/or various other categories such as TDF Board meeting, conferences, Plugfests, etc. Users could then filter their calendar views as needed. OR -- able to add other calendars into a "master" calendar where a user could switch on/off the calendar view. This is done extremely well with Google Calendar. Having one or the other of these abilities would give the project all the flexibility it would need. At this point, I would favour embedding a master LibreOffice Google Calendar and the various other sections of LibreOffice (TDF SC; Developer; Design; Documentation; Marketing as well as the other language groups) would create their own calendars and the main international calendar could add-on the calendars the other section calendars. Then same could be done with the other language groups. One of the advantages of using the Google Calendar is that we can make the calendar public and other groups would be able to embed our calendar into their sites. This, from the point of view of marketing, would also help us disseminate on a larger scale, any of the LibreOffice events. This, to me, would permit the needed flexibility in events calendering needed by the project. Google Calendar also permits the admin of calendars by many individuals. I don't believe we would have any problems getting help with getting administrative help from our membership as many of us would have enough experience at inputting events into a Google calendar. Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hi Marc, Am Montag, 21. November 2011, 22:06:14 schrieb Marc Paré: > Hi Andreas > > Le 2011-11-21 15:12, Andreas Mantke a écrit : (...) > > If nobody objects I will start with a new wiki page for the events of > > 2012. I miss a column for the cfp in the current page and will add that > > two the new site. > > > > Regards, > > Andreas > > Good one. I also had this on my to-do list. It would be nice if we could > have something like the sourceforge people who list FOSS events here: > http://sourceforge.net/blog/calendar-of-open-source-software-events/. I > had suggested at one point of combining the sourceforce google calendar > with our own and this would also help us plan for upcoming events. If > you do a search of the marketing/website lists under "calendar" you will > find that there have already been discussions on calendar implementation > either on the wiki or website. > > What you suggest would be great, even if it were only a temporary update. I created the wiki page at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2012 and filled in the events for Europe that I always know. I added sections for North and South America. Maybe we need also a section for Asia / Australia. It's a wiki, so everyone could create such a section. I've got the information from Christian Lohmaier that there is calendar add-on in our website (Silverstripe) and we can use it to make our user aware of the events we'll attend next. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hi Andreas Le 2011-11-21 15:12, Andreas Mantke a écrit : Hi all, there is currently a list of events in 2011 on our wiki, where we attended or are going to attend: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events I think we should create such a list for the next year in the wiki yet, because 2012 is just around the corner. I propose to create a new list for every year and don't overwrite the current one. I think it is also not appropriate to add the events for 2012 at the top or the bottom of the current list. If nobody objects I will start with a new wiki page for the events of 2012. I miss a column for the cfp in the current page and will add that two the new site. Regards, Andreas Good one. I also had this on my to-do list. It would be nice if we could have something like the sourceforge people who list FOSS events here: http://sourceforge.net/blog/calendar-of-open-source-software-events/. I had suggested at one point of combining the sourceforce google calendar with our own and this would also help us plan for upcoming events. If you do a search of the marketing/website lists under "calendar" you will find that there have already been discussions on calendar implementation either on the wiki or website. What you suggest would be great, even if it were only a temporary update. Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hi all, there is currently a list of events in 2011 on our wiki, where we attended or are going to attend: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events I think we should create such a list for the next year in the wiki yet, because 2012 is just around the corner. I propose to create a new list for every year and don't overwrite the current one. I think it is also not appropriate to add the events for 2012 at the top or the bottom of the current list. If nobody objects I will start with a new wiki page for the events of 2012. I miss a column for the cfp in the current page and will add that two the new site. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted