Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Change icon?

2010-11-07 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-)

On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 21:08, Christoph Noack  wrote:
> Hi David,
> Moreover, it would be great if you could link your mail (along with some
> paper plane considerations) from within the Marketing Ideas page [1] -
> so it doesn't get lost.
> [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas

Done. ;-)

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas#.22Libo.22_mascot

David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Change icon?

2010-11-06 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi David,

thanks for the research work :-) I just wanted to mention that, because
I won't be able to comment on the rest of the threads at the moment. 

Moreover, it would be great if you could link your mail (along with some
paper plane considerations) from within the Marketing Ideas page [1] -
so it doesn't get lost.

Cheers,
Christoph

[1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas

Am Donnerstag, den 04.11.2010, 07:54 +0800 schrieb David Nelson:
> Hi Lucas & guys, :-)
> 
> I didn't find any usage of paper plane logos/graphics that, IMHO,
> precludes adopting Lucas Filho's idea. The companies/organizations
> using a paper plane-based logo probably have less name recognition
> than LibO can potentially acquire. IANAL, but I imagine there wouldn't
> be any copyright problem, especially if one came up with something
> having its own originality.
> 
> In any case, a sheet of paper is a pretty ubiquitous thing, too, so
> maybe the same issues would apply to TDF's current logo?
> 
> Below are some quick research results for your consideration. HTH.
> 
> David Nelson
> 
> Paper planes research:
> ===
> 
> Uses a paper plane in their logo:
> 
> http://paperplane-studio.blogspot.com/
> http://paperplane.net/
> http://www.paperplane.co.nz/
> http://www.paperplane-creative.co.uk/
> 
> Uses "paper plane" in their name:
> 
> http://www.paperplanestudio.com/newfiles/paper.html
> http://www.paperplanemag.com/
> http://www.myspace.com/paperplaneproject
> http://pubget.com/help/paper_plane
> http://littlepaperplanes.com/
> http://www.paperplane.com.au/ (Drupal logo is their favicon...)
> http://www.paper-plane.fr/ (cloud graphic as logo)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_Planes (might grant permission to
> use excerpt from their music?)
> http://www.gotopaperplane.com/
> http://www.paperplane.co.nz/
> http://paperplaneacademy.com.au/
> http://www.paperplane-creative.co.uk/
> 
> Uses a paper plane in a prominent graphic:
> 
> http://paperplane.net/
> http://www.funpaperairplanes.com/
> http://www.paperplane.com.au/
> http://paperplaneacademy.com.au/
> 
> Fun stuff about making paper planes:
> 
> http://www.paperplane.org/
> http://www.paperairplanes.co.uk/planes.php
> http://www.origami-kids.com/
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2768368762284821227#
> http://www.amazingpaperairplanes.com/
> http://paperairplaneshq.com/
> http://www.bestpaperairplanes.com/
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/theoffice/planes/
> 



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RE: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Change icon?

2010-11-04 Thread Monfort Florian
Le mercredi 03 novembre 2010 à 20:27 +, Brenden Seibel a écrit :
> Love the paper plane idea.
> 
> Brenden
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Graham Lauder [mailto:yori...@openoffice.org] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 2:25 PM
> To: marketing@libreoffice.org
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Change icon?
> 
> On Thursday 04 Nov 2010 04:56:55 Benjamin Horst wrote:
> > On Nov 2, 2010, at 10:27 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
> > > Le 2010-11-02 19:58, David Nelson a écrit :
> > >> Your paper plane fits in superbly with the paper sheet, as a 
> > >> natural development thereof. The possibilities are many. It can be 
> > >> made into something that fires empathy in the young and old, the 
> > >> simple and the sophisticated.
> > >> 
> > >> What do you think about the idea of giving it eyes, or some kind of 
> > >> face? Can you find a way to breathe life into it, like the old man 
> > >> into Pinnochio?
> > >> 
> > >> David Nelson
> > > 
> > > I don't think you would need to personify it.
> > > 
> > > How about when you start a document, the logo starts off with the 
> > > LibO logo that we have worked on and the more you type, the more the 
> > > folds of a paper plane appear, and then the logo shows a paper plane 
> > > outline to finally its final shape of a paper plane ready to fly ... it 
> > > is done!
> > 
> > I am liking the paper plane icon concept more and more, as well.
> > 
> > To go along with the icon, we could create various folding templates 
> > for different paper plane designs, put a LibO icon on them in 
> > prominent places, and distribute them digitally as ODGs and PDFs. We 
> > could print them out for conferences, and let people pick them up and 
> > fold them using instructions printed as part of the template.
> > 
> > There are many great designs to be found online, such as these:
> > http://www.funpaperairplanes.com/Plane%20Downloads.html
> > 
> > -Ben
> > 
> > Benjamin Horst
> > bho...@mac.com
> > 646-464-2314 (Eastern)
> > www.solidoffice.com
> 
> This could be the basis of an extremely good marketing campaign.
> 
> "LibreO -Fly the Plane" or something similar, paper plane designs on line, in 
> templates and extensions.
> 
> I'm coming round, I like it a lot, certainly as a launch platform.
>   "LibreO takes Flight"
> 
> and so on
> 
> cheers
> GL
> 
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Hello all,

In deed I should have thought of that before. "La Poste" uses a paper
plane. It's the postal service we use in France, and maybe this company
is also present in other countries.

It's even a bank now if I remember well.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Change icon?

2010-11-03 Thread David Nelson
Hi Lucas & guys, :-)

I didn't find any usage of paper plane logos/graphics that, IMHO,
precludes adopting Lucas Filho's idea. The companies/organizations
using a paper plane-based logo probably have less name recognition
than LibO can potentially acquire. IANAL, but I imagine there wouldn't
be any copyright problem, especially if one came up with something
having its own originality.

In any case, a sheet of paper is a pretty ubiquitous thing, too, so
maybe the same issues would apply to TDF's current logo?

Below are some quick research results for your consideration. HTH.

David Nelson

Paper planes research:
===

Uses a paper plane in their logo:

http://paperplane-studio.blogspot.com/
http://paperplane.net/
http://www.paperplane.co.nz/
http://www.paperplane-creative.co.uk/

Uses "paper plane" in their name:

http://www.paperplanestudio.com/newfiles/paper.html
http://www.paperplanemag.com/
http://www.myspace.com/paperplaneproject
http://pubget.com/help/paper_plane
http://littlepaperplanes.com/
http://www.paperplane.com.au/ (Drupal logo is their favicon...)
http://www.paper-plane.fr/ (cloud graphic as logo)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_Planes (might grant permission to
use excerpt from their music?)
http://www.gotopaperplane.com/
http://www.paperplane.co.nz/
http://paperplaneacademy.com.au/
http://www.paperplane-creative.co.uk/

Uses a paper plane in a prominent graphic:

http://paperplane.net/
http://www.funpaperairplanes.com/
http://www.paperplane.com.au/
http://paperplaneacademy.com.au/

Fun stuff about making paper planes:

http://www.paperplane.org/
http://www.paperairplanes.co.uk/planes.php
http://www.origami-kids.com/
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2768368762284821227#
http://www.amazingpaperairplanes.com/
http://paperairplaneshq.com/
http://www.bestpaperairplanes.com/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/theoffice/planes/

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Change icon?

2010-11-03 Thread Jens Habermann
Hi!

I don´t think a paper plane is the right choice for a serious application used 
in personal and business world.
Also a mascot is also a very difficult thing: you can get a tux or a paper 
clip...

Nevertheless we should continue gather ideas and maybe something will evolve...
So I will think about it and eventually come up with some ideas, too.

regards
Jens


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Change icon?

2010-11-03 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-)

> Am Dienstag, den 02.11.2010, 21:31 -0400 schrieb Marc Paré:
>> Before we do this. Is there any business or organization that uses a
>> paper airplane as a logo?

I can find a few hours today. Unless anyone's got a better plan, I
propose to do a bit of footwork and do some checking to see if the
idea is being used by any other organization... That might save Lucas
some time while he thinks more about his concept. So I'll report back
on this thread later.

David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Change icon?

2010-11-03 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Marc, all!

Sorry for being a bit late - missed the plane (sorry, bad joke *g*). I
just have a few-hours-timeslot for answering mails which was partly
filled with the today's SC meeting. So well ...

Am Dienstag, den 02.11.2010, 21:31 -0400 schrieb Marc Paré:
> Before we do this. Is there any business or organization that uses a 
> paper airplane as a logo? 

However, when we thought about the LibO branding, we also thought about
the paper plane idea, but we did not use it for one main (let's call it)
reason. Marc, as you said, we didn't knew exactly about other
organizations and their logos. I remember that I saw something like that
for a postal service or so. But we didn't investigate here too much.
Maybe you can start here

I know that some people think the current logo misses a personal
touch ... to be honest, I thought that we might have something like
"Duke" (the Java mascot). But I really miss the design skills to turn a
document into a cool, thrilling and funny thing (the triangles being the
hat, the eyebrows, ...). Anybody with a pencil and a sheet of paper? :-)

Just my thoughts ...

Cheers,
Christoph



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RE: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Change icon?

2010-11-03 Thread Brenden Seibel
Love the paper plane idea.

Brenden



-Original Message-
From: Graham Lauder [mailto:yori...@openoffice.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 2:25 PM
To: marketing@libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Change icon?

On Thursday 04 Nov 2010 04:56:55 Benjamin Horst wrote:
> On Nov 2, 2010, at 10:27 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
> > Le 2010-11-02 19:58, David Nelson a écrit :
> >> Your paper plane fits in superbly with the paper sheet, as a 
> >> natural development thereof. The possibilities are many. It can be 
> >> made into something that fires empathy in the young and old, the 
> >> simple and the sophisticated.
> >> 
> >> What do you think about the idea of giving it eyes, or some kind of 
> >> face? Can you find a way to breathe life into it, like the old man 
> >> into Pinnochio?
> >> 
> >> David Nelson
> > 
> > I don't think you would need to personify it.
> > 
> > How about when you start a document, the logo starts off with the 
> > LibO logo that we have worked on and the more you type, the more the 
> > folds of a paper plane appear, and then the logo shows a paper plane 
> > outline to finally its final shape of a paper plane ready to fly ... it is 
> > done!
> 
> I am liking the paper plane icon concept more and more, as well.
> 
> To go along with the icon, we could create various folding templates 
> for different paper plane designs, put a LibO icon on them in 
> prominent places, and distribute them digitally as ODGs and PDFs. We 
> could print them out for conferences, and let people pick them up and 
> fold them using instructions printed as part of the template.
> 
> There are many great designs to be found online, such as these:
> http://www.funpaperairplanes.com/Plane%20Downloads.html
> 
> -Ben
> 
> Benjamin Horst
> bho...@mac.com
> 646-464-2314 (Eastern)
> www.solidoffice.com

This could be the basis of an extremely good marketing campaign.

"LibreO -Fly the Plane" or something similar, paper plane designs on line, in 
templates and extensions.

I'm coming round, I like it a lot, certainly as a launch platform.
  "LibreO takes Flight"

and so on

cheers
GL

--
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OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ 
http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html

OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant.

INGOTs Assessor Trainer
(International Grades in Open Technologies) www.theingots.org

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Change icon?

2010-11-03 Thread Graham Lauder
On Thursday 04 Nov 2010 04:56:55 Benjamin Horst wrote:
> On Nov 2, 2010, at 10:27 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
> > Le 2010-11-02 19:58, David Nelson a écrit :
> >> Your paper plane fits in superbly with the paper sheet, as a natural
> >> development thereof. The possibilities are many. It can be made into
> >> something that fires empathy in the young and old, the simple and the
> >> sophisticated.
> >> 
> >> What do you think about the idea of giving it eyes, or some kind of
> >> face? Can you find a way to breathe life into it, like the old man
> >> into Pinnochio?
> >> 
> >> David Nelson
> > 
> > I don't think you would need to personify it.
> > 
> > How about when you start a document, the logo starts off with the LibO
> > logo that we have worked on and the more you type, the more the folds of
> > a paper plane appear, and then the logo shows a paper plane outline to
> > finally its final shape of a paper plane ready to fly ... it is done!
> 
> I am liking the paper plane icon concept more and more, as well.
> 
> To go along with the icon, we could create various folding templates for
> different paper plane designs, put a LibO icon on them in prominent
> places, and distribute them digitally as ODGs and PDFs. We could print
> them out for conferences, and let people pick them up and fold them using
> instructions printed as part of the template.
> 
> There are many great designs to be found online, such as these:
> http://www.funpaperairplanes.com/Plane%20Downloads.html
> 
> -Ben
> 
> Benjamin Horst
> bho...@mac.com
> 646-464-2314 (Eastern)
> www.solidoffice.com

This could be the basis of an extremely good marketing campaign.

"LibreO -Fly the Plane" or something similar, paper plane designs on line, in 
templates and extensions.

I'm coming round, I like it a lot, certainly as a launch platform.
  "LibreO takes Flight"

and so on

cheers
GL

-- 
Graham Lauder,
OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ
http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html

OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant.

INGOTs Assessor Trainer
(International Grades in Open Technologies)
www.theingots.org

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Change icon?

2010-11-03 Thread Benjamin Horst

On Nov 2, 2010, at 10:27 PM, Marc Paré wrote:

> Le 2010-11-02 19:58, David Nelson a écrit :
> 
>> Your paper plane fits in superbly with the paper sheet, as a natural
>> development thereof. The possibilities are many. It can be made into
>> something that fires empathy in the young and old, the simple and the
>> sophisticated.
>> 
>> What do you think about the idea of giving it eyes, or some kind of
>> face? Can you find a way to breathe life into it, like the old man
>> into Pinnochio?
>> 
>> David Nelson
>> 
> 
> I don't think you would need to personify it.
> 
> How about when you start a document, the logo starts off with the LibO logo 
> that we have worked on and the more you type, the more the folds of a paper 
> plane appear, and then the logo shows a paper plane outline to finally its 
> final shape of a paper plane ready to fly ... it is done!

I am liking the paper plane icon concept more and more, as well.

To go along with the icon, we could create various folding templates for 
different paper plane designs, put a LibO icon on them in prominent places, and 
distribute them digitally as ODGs and PDFs. We could print them out for 
conferences, and let people pick them up and fold them using instructions 
printed as part of the template.

There are many great designs to be found online, such as these: 
http://www.funpaperairplanes.com/Plane%20Downloads.html

-Ben

Benjamin Horst
bho...@mac.com
646-464-2314 (Eastern)
www.solidoffice.com


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