Re: Marketing-trac: #195: F23 screenshots page (was: F22 screenshots page)
#195: F23 screenshots page ---+- Reporter: ankursinha| Owner: ankursinha Type: task | Status: assigned Priority: major | Milestone: Future releases Component: Release deliverables | Severity: urgent Resolution:| Keywords: Blocked By:| Blocking: ---+- Changes (by ankursinha): * status: new = assigned * milestone: = Future releases * severity: not-urgent = urgent Old description: Wiki page created: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/F22_Screenshots New description: Wiki page created: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/F23_Screenshots -- -- Ticket URL: https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/195#comment:4 marketing-team https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing Marketing team for the Fedora project. -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: F23 talking points draft
On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 08:55:43AM -0400, Joe Brockmeier wrote: - Should we have an elevator pitch for this release, and what would it be? What's the overall theme for Fedora 23? The current story of back on the six month track seems okay, although that's also true of F22. I think we're also on track to have Atomic _separate_ from those releases, which is a big deal — even if you're not an Atomic user, it represents our first deliverable like that... something driven by the six-month engine but not tied to it. - Should there be something about GCC in this set of talking points? Yes. :) -- Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org Fedora Project Leader -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Marketing-trac: #190: Create talking points
#190: Create talking points ---+ Reporter: ankursinha| Owner: jzb Type: task | Status: new Priority: blocker | Milestone: Component: Release deliverables | Severity: urgent Resolution:| Keywords: Blocked By:| Blocking: ---+ Comment (by mailga): Currently https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_23_talking_points -- Ticket URL: https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/190#comment:5 marketing-team https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing Marketing team for the Fedora project. -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: F23 talking points draft
On 08/04/2015 07:49 AM, Gabriele Trombini wrote: Hi all, as usual marketing team drafted the talking points page [1]. I'm not sure about the correct splitting up between the flavours and, of course, I'll be glad if you do correct any mistake in that page. [1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_23_talking_points Hey - this is fantastic, thanks so much! Only one or two comments/observations: - Should we have an elevator pitch for this release, and what would it be? What's the overall theme for Fedora 23? - Should there be something about GCC in this set of talking points? Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Community Team, OSAS j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: F23 talking points draft
Il giorno mar, 04/08/2015 alle 08.55 -0400, Joe Brockmeier ha scritto: Hey - this is fantastic, thanks so much! Only one or two comments/observations: - Should we have an elevator pitch for this release, and what would it be? What's the overall theme for Fedora 23? Above my suggestion, if it's the right direction, I'll crosspost the ML (Cloud, Server and Workstation) for gathering the notes. Feel free to edit any sentence you don't like. Fedora 23 will be shipped with a special attention to the system security and is focused to the easy use. Few of the things are related individually to each kind of users: - Developers will find any tools to get their job improved, just like GCC5, Mono4. Perl 5.22, jQuery; - Sysadmin will find optimized tools allowing to manage Server and Cloud, such as the Cockpit GUI, Containerized Server Roles, Cloud MOTD, Cloud Systemd Networkd; - Users will find the latest versions of the software, e.g. LibreOffice 5, Evince and an UEFI machine firmware update, System Firmware Update. But the whole operating system will be shipped with real improvements related to the security. Hardening all packages, disabling SSL3 and RC4 by default, having a DNS resolver are towards to a more secure distribution. Gabri -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: RFC: Marketing collateral plan
On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 12:29:31PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: - 3 product specific timeless fedora flyers? I think it's just this. Any one general one you had would really be the workstation one anyway. So just do one on workstation, one on Just thinking out loud here, but maybe a general one would be about Fedora Project in general, covering the community and aspects _other_ than the distro release? Focus on the Friends foundation, and ways to get involved as a non-programmer (it is my impression that many users think that one must be a programmer to join the Fedora contributor community, which is of course very far from the truth). -- Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org Fedora Project Leader -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: RFC: Magazine post Fedora 23 screenshot tour
+1 to this idea, the less we add to the wiki ( that needs to be cleaned/purged) is best I think. - Chris Roberts - Original Message - From: Ankur Sinha sanjay.an...@gmail.com To: marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 7:09:36 PM Subject: RFC: Magazine post Fedora 23 screenshot tour Hiya, So we've been discussing the screenshots and we seem to agree that the wiki isn't a good place that we should be directing users to. Here's an alternative plan that I'd like feedback on: 1. Collect all the screenshots we can on the wiki as usual. 2. About release time, have a Fedora 23 Workstation screenshot tour post on the Fedora magazine where we use the best images from the wiki collection. This post could have a see other DEs that links to the wiki if we manage to get screenshots of KDE and so on. I vaguely recall wordpress having a gallery plugin (if this is needed at all). 3. getfedora.org has a Take a screenshot tour link on the workstation product page that links to the Fedora magazine post. The idea being that we show users screenshots, but we don't point them to the wiki directly since the wiki isn't as posh as getfedora.org or fedoramagazine. Having a link to the wiki on the fedoramgazine post also ensures that people are sort of aware of the library. We can even have say Feel free to use these screenshots in your posts. They're all under the CC license. Comments? -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur Sinha FranciscoD http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: RFC: Magazine post Fedora 23 screenshot tour
TAKE ME OFF THIS FUCKING EMAIL LIST RIGHT NOW OR I WILL SPAM THIS ENTIRE CHAIN. RIGHT NOW On Aug 4, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Ankur Sinha sanjay.an...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2015-08-04 at 13:28 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: Not opposed to this general idea from the websites POV except that our websites are translated and AFAIK magazine posts are not? Yeah. Magazine posts aren't. We could have a screenshot tour with language specific screenshots on an additional page on the website itself, but that'll mean setting up a new page that will have to be maintained and updated per release. I'm also not at all confident if we'll be able to manage screenshots in all the languages that the site is translated into. It *may* just be possible if we pick a really small set of screenshots, but if we have as many as this[1] per language, it's going to be quite difficult. (zoglesby told us in the irc channel that this was why the docs didn't have too many screenshots either - they're supposed to be translated into 44 languages or thereabouts.) [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/F21_Screenshots -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur Sinha FranciscoD http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Fedora 23 Alpha Readiness
Il giorno mar, 04/08/2015 alle 17.09 +0100, Ankur Sinha ha scritto: On Tue, 2015-08-04 at 17:00 +0100, Ankur Sinha wrote: Hiya! I can work on the one page release notes if we want to do them this release. Do we? They were done last for F15 from the looks of it: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:One_page_release_notes Here is the SOP: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/One_page_release_notes_SOP Just so I understand this correctly, the release notes that docs do are most detailed. Then, we summarise them into talking points (which mailga did), and then we further summarise these into a page which becomes the one page release notes? -- I think the one page release notes is unnecessary. We skipped them for many previous releases. As you detected is a redundancy of the talking points, that are the starting points for ambassadors. The release announcement will summarize the features as well as talking points do, so we can avoid to report again the same things. IMHO. Gabri -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: RFC: Magazine post Fedora 23 screenshot tour
I would love to add a translate plugin to the magazine ( once it passes staging) I know there was some effort in this and then it fell the wayside. If anyone wants to suggest a few translate plugins that have good ratings I would be happy to add them and give out the stg url. I am all for the localization. - Chris Roberts - Original Message - From: Máirín Duffy du...@fedoraproject.org To: ankursi...@fedoraproject.org, Fedora Marketing team marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 7:28:21 PM Subject: Re: RFC: Magazine post Fedora 23 screenshot tour On 08/04/2015 01:09 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: 3. getfedora.org has a Take a screenshot tour link on the workstation product page that links to the Fedora magazine post. Not opposed to this general idea from the websites POV except that our websites are translated and AFAIK magazine posts are not? ~m -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
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Re: RFC: Magazine post Fedora 23 screenshot tour
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Re: RFC: Marketing collateral plan
On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 12:42:49PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: Just thinking out loud here, but maybe a general one would be about Fedora Project in general, covering the community and aspects _other_ than the distro release? Focus on the Friends foundation, and ways to get involved as a non-programmer (it is my impression that many users think that one must be a programmer to join the Fedora contributor community, which is of course very far from the truth). If we're aiming the flyers at newbies, I think it's a bit weird to press them to join in helping make something they don't use or even fully understand yet, no? I wasn't thinking of it as pressing, but showcasing all the different interesting and fun parts of the community. -- Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org Fedora Project Leader -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Fedora 23 Alpha Readiness
On Tue, 2015-08-04 at 17:00 +0100, Ankur Sinha wrote: Hiya! I can work on the one page release notes if we want to do them this release. Do we? They were done last for F15 from the looks of it: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:One_page_release_notes Here is the SOP: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/One_page_release_notes_SOP Just so I understand this correctly, the release notes that docs do are most detailed. Then, we summarise them into talking points (which mailga did), and then we further summarise these into a page which becomes the one page release notes? -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur Sinha FranciscoD http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Fedora 23 Alpha Readiness
Il giorno mar, 04/08/2015 alle 17.21 +0100, Ankur Sinha ha scritto: On Tue, 2015-08-04 at 18:13 +0200, Gabriele Trombini wrote: I'm asking if we really want a library of screen-shots - are they used at all? Or is this another legacy deliverable that we are no longer interested in? I think they still have worth for the users. E.g. many of them need the screenshot when are going to write installation notes in their locale or also are useful to see in advance the desktop and so on. Its also a question of brand: doesn't provide screenshots may appear as a lack of care. Gabri -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: RFC: Marketing collateral plan
On Tue, 2015-08-04 at 12:29 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: On 08/04/2015 12:18 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: - 3 product specific timeless fedora flyers? I think it's just this. Any one general one you had would really be the workstation one anyway. So just do one on workstation, one on server, one on cloud, all 'timeless' with updates time to time with major feature additions / updates / improvements. I had added the general one so that the spins, labs and arm could get some visibility too. They get skipped if we only do product specific ones. What do you think? It should really mirror the content on the site for each of the editions on getfedora.org, and if anything on getfedora.org needs updating it should be updated so they match. That makes sense. I'll go find out if there are any updates planned to getfedora.org for F23. If it isn't, should I still ask the WGs for text or will the text be taken from the site? -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur Sinha FranciscoD http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: RFC: Magazine post Fedora 23 screenshot tour
On 08/04/2015 01:39 PM, Chris Roberts wrote: I would love to add a translate plugin to the magazine ( once it passes staging) I know there was some effort in this and then it fell the wayside. If anyone wants to suggest a few translate plugins that have good ratings I would be happy to add them and give out the stg url. I am all for the localization. Would the translate plugin enable contributed translations from translators or would it pass through something like babelfish or translate.google? ~m -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: RFC: Marketing collateral plan
On Thu, 2015-07-30 at 14:09 +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote: It'd be nice to have at least three nicely done release non-specific fliers: Workstation, Server, Cloud. I'm not sure what we've settled on. Is it: - 1 general timeless fedora flyer? Or is it: - 1 general timeless fedora flyers - 3 product specific timeless fedora flyers? I'll update the plan accordingly. I'm happy to run circles around the different product WGs to get the required text from them and deliver it to the design team. -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur Sinha FranciscoD http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Fedora 23 Alpha Readiness
On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 05:43:14PM +0100, Ankur Sinha wrote: Well, I don't know how many users pick screenshots from the wiki. We didn't have them for F22 and we received no complaints. Unfortunately, we have no metrics on this, so I'm just assuming that the screenshots aren't used too much. It's much easier for people to take screenshots on their own systems than to fetch them from our wiki page which isn't well advertised. We also didn't get much press _at all_ on Fedora 22. I don't know if this is related — screenshot-tour articles have historically been common. I guess worth looking back at those to see if those are their own screenshots (in which case we're really just competing with our own press!) or if they used ours (resulting in more articles). The one issue I have with this is that the wiki isn't the most posh place to host a screenshot library if we're thinking of advertising it to users. Should we use the wiki as an image dump for ourselves and then put the best up on Flickr or something with CC licenses? (Flickr or another open source image platform) Yeah I think a good rule is: we should *never* send end-users to the wiki. -- Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org Fedora Project Leader -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Fedora 23 Alpha Readiness
On Tue, 2015-08-04 at 18:34 +0200, Gabriele Trombini wrote: I think they still have worth for the users. E.g. many of them need the screenshot when are going to write installation notes in their locale or also are useful to see in advance the desktop and so on. Well, I don't know how many users pick screenshots from the wiki. We didn't have them for F22 and we received no complaints. Unfortunately, we have no metrics on this, so I'm just assuming that the screenshots aren't used too much. It's much easier for people to take screenshots on their own systems than to fetch them from our wiki page which isn't well advertised. Its also a question of brand: doesn't provide screenshots may appear as a lack of care. getfedora.org does have images on the products. If we do a screenshot library, could we maybe have a link to this on getfedora.org? Something like See more screenshots!. The one issue I have with this is that the wiki isn't the most posh place to host a screenshot library if we're thinking of advertising it to users. Should we use the wiki as an image dump for ourselves and then put the best up on Flickr or something with CC licenses? (Flickr or another open source image platform) -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur Sinha FranciscoD http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: RFC: Marketing collateral plan
On 08/04/2015 12:35 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: I had added the general one so that the spins, labs and arm could get some visibility too. They get skipped if we only do product specific ones. What do you think? I think those are too specialized for the audience best served by flyers. That makes sense. I'll go find out if there are any updates planned to getfedora.org for F23. If it isn't, should I still ask the WGs for text or will the text be taken from the site? It would be really awesome if you could ask the WGs about the text on their respective getfedora.org pages and if they'd like to make updates. We haven't gotten around to that on websites yet. I can make any needed text changes to the website to match the brochure text that falls out of that. Seem fair? ~m -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Fedora 23 Alpha Readiness
Hi, I think going back to the other email post, about screenshots, since we have Fedora Next I would like to get away from the wiki and have something that would match the theme of the Fedora Next web pages. Maybe Design could come up with some cool pictures or some banners for the article on the Magazine. - Chris Roberts - Original Message - From: Ankur Sinha sanjay.an...@gmail.com To: marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 6:43:14 PM Subject: Re: Fedora 23 Alpha Readiness On Tue, 2015-08-04 at 18:34 +0200, Gabriele Trombini wrote: I think they still have worth for the users. E.g. many of them need the screenshot when are going to write installation notes in their locale or also are useful to see in advance the desktop and so on. Well, I don't know how many users pick screenshots from the wiki. We didn't have them for F22 and we received no complaints. Unfortunately, we have no metrics on this, so I'm just assuming that the screenshots aren't used too much. It's much easier for people to take screenshots on their own systems than to fetch them from our wiki page which isn't well advertised. Its also a question of brand: doesn't provide screenshots may appear as a lack of care. getfedora.org does have images on the products. If we do a screenshot library, could we maybe have a link to this on getfedora.org? Something like See more screenshots!. The one issue I have with this is that the wiki isn't the most posh place to host a screenshot library if we're thinking of advertising it to users. Should we use the wiki as an image dump for ourselves and then put the best up on Flickr or something with CC licenses? (Flickr or another open source image platform) -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur Sinha FranciscoD http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: RFC: Magazine post Fedora 23 screenshot tour
On 08/04/2015 01:50 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: I'm also not at all confident if we'll be able to manage screenshots in all the languages that the site is translated into. It *may* just be possible if we pick a really small set of screenshots, but if we have as many as this[1] per language, it's going to be quite difficult. (zoglesby told us in the irc channel that this was why the docs didn't have too many screenshots either - they're supposed to be translated into 44 languages or thereabouts.) I think the minimum to avoid being too jarring is to just have the screenshots taken of Fedora running in the default language, but to have the description of the screenshots in the user's language. Might be able to get away with an auto-translation through something like babelfish or translate.google (or offer a prominent redirect to the page viewed on those sites.) I don't want to kill a good idea with too much complexity / overheard, just more trying to point out linking directly from a translated website to an untranslated one can be a jarring experience and we should account for that in some way (doesn't have to be the ideal, what-we'd-all-like way, just something that shows some consideration) ~m -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: RFC: Marketing collateral plan
On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 05:18:30PM +0100, Ankur Sinha wrote: - 1 general timeless fedora flyers - 3 product specific timeless fedora flyers? I'm in favor of this one. I'll update the plan accordingly. I'm happy to run circles around the different product WGs to get the required text from them and deliver it to the design team. Awesome. -- Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org Fedora Project Leader -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: RFC: Marketing collateral plan
On 08/04/2015 12:18 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: - 3 product specific timeless fedora flyers? I think it's just this. Any one general one you had would really be the workstation one anyway. So just do one on workstation, one on server, one on cloud, all 'timeless' with updates time to time with major feature additions / updates / improvements. It should really mirror the content on the site for each of the editions on getfedora.org, and if anything on getfedora.org needs updating it should be updated so they match. ~m -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: RFC: Magazine post Fedora 23 screenshot tour
On 08/04/2015 01:09 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: 3. getfedora.org has a Take a screenshot tour link on the workstation product page that links to the Fedora magazine post. Not opposed to this general idea from the websites POV except that our websites are translated and AFAIK magazine posts are not? ~m -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Fedora 23 Alpha Readiness
Il giorno mar, 04/08/2015 alle 17.00 +0100, Ankur Sinha ha scritto: On Mon, 2015-08-03 at 20:47 +0200, Gabriele Trombini wrote: Hello, Hiya! Before I begin working on screenshots for F23, do we need them? I ask because we didn't do them for F22. I've created an empty wiki page already, but thought I'd confirm before I started getting screenshots. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F23_screenshots_library Hello Ankur, correct; your page is linked in the main marketing wikipage https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing. You can upload screenshot there. Thanks. Gabri -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: RFC: Marketing collateral plan
On 08/04/2015 12:36 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 12:29:31PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: - 3 product specific timeless fedora flyers? I think it's just this. Any one general one you had would really be the workstation one anyway. So just do one on workstation, one on Just thinking out loud here, but maybe a general one would be about Fedora Project in general, covering the community and aspects _other_ than the distro release? Focus on the Friends foundation, and ways to get involved as a non-programmer (it is my impression that many users think that one must be a programmer to join the Fedora contributor community, which is of course very far from the truth). If we're aiming the flyers at newbies, I think it's a bit weird to press them to join in helping make something they don't use or even fully understand yet, no? ~m -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
RFC: Magazine post Fedora 23 screenshot tour
Hiya, So we've been discussing the screenshots and we seem to agree that the wiki isn't a good place that we should be directing users to. Here's an alternative plan that I'd like feedback on: 1. Collect all the screenshots we can on the wiki as usual. 2. About release time, have a Fedora 23 Workstation screenshot tour post on the Fedora magazine where we use the best images from the wiki collection. This post could have a see other DEs that links to the wiki if we manage to get screenshots of KDE and so on. I vaguely recall wordpress having a gallery plugin (if this is needed at all). 3. getfedora.org has a Take a screenshot tour link on the workstation product page that links to the Fedora magazine post. The idea being that we show users screenshots, but we don't point them to the wiki directly since the wiki isn't as posh as getfedora.org or fedoramagazine. Having a link to the wiki on the fedoramgazine post also ensures that people are sort of aware of the library. We can even have say Feel free to use these screenshots in your posts. They're all under the CC license. Comments? -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur Sinha FranciscoD http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: RFC: Marketing collateral plan
On 08/04/2015 02:04 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 12:42:49PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: Just thinking out loud here, but maybe a general one would be about Fedora Project in general, covering the community and aspects _other_ than the distro release? Focus on the Friends foundation, and ways to get involved as a non-programmer (it is my impression that many users think that one must be a programmer to join the Fedora contributor community, which is of course very far from the truth). If we're aiming the flyers at newbies, I think it's a bit weird to press them to join in helping make something they don't use or even fully understand yet, no? I wasn't thinking of it as pressing, but showcasing all the different interesting and fun parts of the community. Whatever verbiage is used, wouldn't such a flyer and accompanying pitch is and would be perceived as an upsell? (to convert them from a (not even yet?) user to a contributor?) There's mutual benefit there, sure, but being a contributor is a much larger time investment than trying out the software, and I think it's a bit much on top of trying to relay the fundamentals about the software itself. Let them try the software and like it first (or not, then don't bother) before recruiting them and don't distract / muddy the message. If it's a conference with booths there's a lot of information they're going to be processing at once, my thought is keep the message focused, simple, to-the-point as you can for the best impact. I think the message to try / use Fedora is more important than to contribute to it at that stage. I also don't know that brand-new-to-Fedora-as-a-user folks are going to have a great brand-new-contributor experience unless it's through a formal mentoring program (like Outreachy or GSoC or whatever where I think we do a really good job) and we are not equipped to do that at the volume I'm imagining such flyers would be printed at this point in time, right? ~m -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
