Re: [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

[Dave Crossland]

On 6 April 2016 at 17:24, Sean DALY  wrote:

>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Dave Crossland  wrote:
>
>> How many kids is Sugar targetting?
>>
>> Low millions? Or billions?
>>
>
> A few years ago, I estimated at around 10 million the number of teachers
> in classrooms with younger children, and I suggested we target them. Any
> teacher-friendly, ultrasimple, reliable setup and maintenance Sugar
> solution could work towards that goal.
>

>
...
>
> In my view Sugarizer has a very key role to play - overcoming the
> unfamiliarity barrier for teachers. Which could, ironically, boost the
> opportunities of the Sugar/GNU solutions.
>

I agree with all of the above


> I do feel that View Source is a key differentiator of Sugar, and I
> subscribe to the "low floor, no ceiling" idea.
>

I think the fact that "View Source" is a famous web browser menu item is
poignant for this discussion, especially given the power of the
Firebug-style web developer modes of all the big browsers today.

I believe the very simplest and most reliable is ...


I think we ought to think in terms of addressable market, and for me with
that perspective the ranking is,

Sugarizer in a browser,

Sugarizer installed via packages for existing mobile systems,

Sugar/GNU in a VM (which I wonder could be ideally bundled with VM software
and presented as a "desktop app"),

Sugar/GNU on a stick,

Sugar installed via packages for existing GNU systems,

Sugarizer/Android preinstalled on hardware

Sugar/GNU preinstalled on hardware

Sugar/GNU preinstalled on rugged hardware
___
Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing

Re: [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

[Dave Crossland]

On 7 April 2016 at 10:33, Sean DALY  wrote:

> Smart marketing involves identifying a target with an objective, then
> choosing a media channel to touch that target. It's tempting to go the
> other way around and say "facebook is a heavyweight channel, so let's
> concentrate there, and everybody likes games, so let's put up a game", but
> for a workable strategy we need to first identify the target and objective,
> verify the target's presence in media channels (facebook or others), choose
> the best channel(s), then tailor the message to the target to achieve the
> objective. Facebook has massive penetration and it's likely many people in
> our target groups will be there. So we could certainly have separate
> parallel facebook campaigns for recruitment (volunteers), donors
> (resources), and teachers (adopters, prescriptors). To reach teachers, we
> could decide to highlight the pedagogical qualities of some of our
> Activities (Turtle Blocks, eToys), or we could prefer to present the Sugar
> interface. In the first case a standalone facebook app could be a good
> solution. In the second case a link to a Sugarizer instance would probably
> make more sense. In both cases there should be a call to action to invite
> teachers to learn more about the platform and its Activities.
>

100% agree

Samson, looking forwards to your proposal :)
___
Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing

Re: [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

[Sean DALY]

:D yes Ignacio I know you are I did a press release about you haha :D

my point is, not everybody wants the same thing out of facebook.
Personally, I like figurative art and I "like" fb pages on that topic. But
it doesn't matter what I like, what matters is what our target audience
likes. My point of view is that our primary target should be teachers.
Perhaps you or Lionel or others feel our primary target should be elsewhere
- developers or donors or school system education buyers. That's a strategy
and marketing discussion, and what it leads to is a marketing strategy to
reach the target. As I said I do think facebook will be key in the
marketing mix - traditional PR doesn't generate press coverage the way it
did five years ago.

As strange as it may sound, effective marketing comes from a rigorous
approach.

Sean




On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 6:24 PM, Ignacio Rodríguez 
wrote:

> are you ...?
>
> * a donor interested in supporting a project to support financially?
> * a developer interested in a project to volunteer with?
> * a teacher interested in a classroom computer-based learning tool?
> * a parent interested in a home setting computer-based learning tool?
> * a cool guy interested in fun games?
>
>
> Well it depends on how I feel
> About facebook:
> Sometimes "a cool guy interested in fun games".
>
> But "I used to" submit patches for sugar core.
> I was a gci winner twice with SugarLabs.
>
> 2016-04-07 12:52 GMT-03:00 Sean DALY :
>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 5:13 PM, samson goddy 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> a proposal of targeting more users via the social media (Facebook and
>>> twitter). And i will submit it this week or next so we will know that to do.
>>
>>
>>
>> Great! So... what is our target or targets? What is our objective or
>> objectives? What is our message for each target?
>>
>> I've had difficulty formulating the SL message these past three years
>> because I need a vision and roadmap to do so.
>>
>> To be effective, marketing isn't random. Let's say television air time
>> was free. And we said Let's do TV ads! I would say the same thing as with
>> Facebook, or YouTube, or Twitter, or what will come next.
>>
>> Sean.
>>
>>
>> ___
>> Marketing mailing list
>> Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org
>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Ignacio Rodríguez
>
___
Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing

Re: [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

[Sean DALY]

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 6:10 PM, samson goddy 
wrote:

> I think that doing ads on facebook or twitter will be great.



Samson... at the risk of repeating myself... who are the ads geared to?
What do the ads say? Is the objective to boost random traffic on facebook,
or traffic more likely to adopt or support Sugar?

Let's try an analogy. I think it would be great if we did a computer
program. Over a billion people use computer programs every day. We can do a
great computer program, and put it on line next week, and get users of our
program.

Do you see what I'm saying?

Sean
___
Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing

Re: [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

[samson goddy]

i am putting on a proposal for that. 

Samson

From: sdaly...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 17:52:16 +0200
To: samsongo...@hotmail.com
CC: h...@unleashkids.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; 
lio...@olpc-france.org; tony_ander...@usa.net; marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org; 
walter.ben...@gmail.com; d...@lab6.com; sanchit.bansal_u...@ashoka.edu.in; 
vishalvenka...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook
app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))


On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 5:13 PM, samson goddy  wrote:
a proposal of targeting more users via the social media (Facebook and twitter). 
And i will submit it this week or next so we will know that to do.

Great! So... what is our target or targets? What is our objective or 
objectives? What is our message for each target?

I've had difficulty formulating the SL message these past three years because I 
need a vision and roadmap to do so.

To be effective, marketing isn't random. Let's say television air time was 
free. And we said Let's do TV ads! I would say the same thing as with Facebook, 
or YouTube, or Twitter, or what will come next.

Sean.



___
Sugar-devel mailing list
sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel 
  ___
Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing

Re: [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

[samson goddy]

From: sdaly...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 17:52:16 +0200
To: samsongo...@hotmail.com
CC: h...@unleashkids.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; 
lio...@olpc-france.org; tony_ander...@usa.net; marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org; 
walter.ben...@gmail.com; d...@lab6.com; sanchit.bansal_u...@ashoka.edu.in; 
vishalvenka...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook
app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))


On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 5:13 PM, samson goddy  wrote:
a proposal of targeting more users via the social media (Facebook and twitter). 
And i will submit it this week or next so we will know that to do.

Great! So... what is our target or targets? What is our objective or 
objectives? What is our message for each target?

I've had difficulty formulating the SL message these past three years because I 
need a vision and roadmap to do so.

To be effective, marketing isn't random. Let's say television air time was 
free. And we said Let's do TV ads! I would say the same thing as with Facebook, 
or YouTube, or Twitter, or what will come next.

Sean.

I think that doing ads on facebook or twitter will be great. We  can boost our 
post for about 5$, boost our page too. To get more users. 



___
Sugar-devel mailing list
sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel 
  ___
Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing

Re: [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

[Sean DALY]

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 5:13 PM, samson goddy 
wrote:

> a proposal of targeting more users via the social media (Facebook and
> twitter). And i will submit it this week or next so we will know that to do.



Great! So... what is our target or targets? What is our objective or
objectives? What is our message for each target?

I've had difficulty formulating the SL message these past three years
because I need a vision and roadmap to do so.

To be effective, marketing isn't random. Let's say television air time was
free. And we said Let's do TV ads! I would say the same thing as with
Facebook, or YouTube, or Twitter, or what will come next.

Sean.
___
Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing

Re: [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

[Sean DALY]

Hi Ignacio

are you ...?

* a donor interested in supporting a project to support financially?
* a developer interested in a project to volunteer with?
* a teacher interested in a classroom computer-based learning tool?
* a parent interested in a home setting computer-based learning tool?
* a cool guy interested in fun games?

My point is that the message would likely be different for each target. I'm
sure teachers like games too, but perhaps they also like humor, their cat,
weather reports, and educational technology... so our message should be
about our educational technology.

Sean


On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Ignacio Rodríguez 
wrote:

> As Facebook user, I think that Sugarizer wouldn't have success.
> What I mean, when I look through Facebook "market", I try to find
> games that my friends play, so it can be more ¿cool?.
>
> Probably if we publish Sugarizer it would have 50-200 monthly users.
> I prefer to use sugarizer in it official website, or just sugar..
>
> idk,
> that is what I think
>
>
> Sorry for my bad english :3
>
> Grettings
>
> 2016-04-07 11:47 GMT-03:00, samson goddy :
> > I will be happy to work with you on that.
> >
> > From: sanchit.bansal_u...@ashoka.edu.in
> > Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 16:38:18 +0530
> > Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar
> > activities))
> > To: walter.ben...@gmail.com
> > CC: samsongo...@hotmail.com; h...@unleashkids.org;
> > marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org;
> > lio...@olpc-france.org; tony_ander...@usa.net
> >
> > I can certainly help with directing a lot of traffic to our facebook
> page as
> > well as other social media accounts, I will start right away if
> everyone's
> > willing.
> > I propose to incorporate a social media feed on our website to increase
> the
> > interactivity here.
> > I am also working on the redesigning the website project from GSoC and I
> > would love you guys to give me feedback on this design I have thought of
> for
> > the main website: http://sanchitbansal.xyz/GSoC. This is just initial
> idea,
> > I will update a lot of stuff in coming days.
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Walter Bender 
> > wrote:
> > FWIW, there is a FB version of Turtle Blocks [1], but I never followed
> > through to get it "authorized". Justed need to add a little glue to the
> JS
> > code to enable it.
> > -walter
> >
> > [1] https://apps.facebook.com/turtleblocks/
> > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 6:08 AM, samson goddy 
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > As a part of sugar vision, i have been doing a lot of research these
> days on
> > how i can make the platform bigger. So thanks to the sugarizer
> team(lionel)
> > no we can have the OS on every device and app market. We have on
> android, I
> > tunes, Amazon, firefox and chrome i guess. But i think it should be on
> > Facebook app to. Where you can be using sugarizer while doing your
> Facebook
> > thingy.  This is a way of getting more users via the social media. I hope
> > that this will go a long way. Also all the JS sugar activity can also be
> in
> > these platform. With over 1.8 billion users on Facebook i know we will be
> > getting a lot of traffics.
> >
> >
> > Samson Goddy
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Walter Bender
> > Sugar Labshttp://www.sugarlabs.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ___
> >
> > Sugar-devel mailing list
> >
> > sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org
> >
> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "Per aspera ad astra"
> > Regards
> > Sanchit BansalFirst Year Undergraduate M +91 822940537 |
> > sanchit.bansal_u...@ashoka.edu.in | www.sanchitbansal.xyz
> > CAMPUS Plot No. 2, Rajiv Gandhi Education City, Kundli, NCR
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Ignacio Rodríguez
> ___
> Sugar-devel mailing list
> sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>
___
Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing

Re: [Marketing] facebook page

[Sean DALY]

Thanks for this Samson

note that the format is xlsx, not xls, I had to rename the extension to
load it into OpenOffice

I'm aware that the numbers are very low. Once SL chooses its vision and
roadmap, we can develop a marketing strategy and do stuff.

thanks

Sean

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 5:19 PM, samson goddy 
wrote:

> This is our facebook data. This is our performers
>
___
Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing

Re: [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

[samson goddy]

not really the whole sugarizer, probably its activities. because i was checking 
up Facebook education category it seems like not much education app present. So 
this is the perfect time to strike in the category. About the gaming we should 
upload it differently. Sugarizer is a education software thanks to internet.org 
which you can use to explore Facebook without internet. 

> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 11:57:12 -0300
> Subject: Re: [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar 
> activities))
> From: nachoe...@gmail.com
> To: samsongo...@hotmail.com
> CC: sanchit.bansal_u...@ashoka.edu.in; walter.ben...@gmail.com; 
> h...@unleashkids.org; marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org; 
> sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; lio...@olpc-france.org; tony_ander...@usa.net
> 
> As Facebook user, I think that Sugarizer wouldn't have success.
> What I mean, when I look through Facebook "market", I try to find
> games that my friends play, so it can be more ¿cool?.
> 
> Probably if we publish Sugarizer it would have 50-200 monthly users.
> I prefer to use sugarizer in it official website, or just sugar..
> 
> idk,
> that is what I think
> 
> 
> Sorry for my bad english :3
> 
> Grettings
> 
> 2016-04-07 11:47 GMT-03:00, samson goddy :
> > I will be happy to work with you on that.
> >
> > From: sanchit.bansal_u...@ashoka.edu.in
> > Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 16:38:18 +0530
> > Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar
> > activities))
> > To: walter.ben...@gmail.com
> > CC: samsongo...@hotmail.com; h...@unleashkids.org;
> > marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org;
> > lio...@olpc-france.org; tony_ander...@usa.net
> >
> > I can certainly help with directing a lot of traffic to our facebook page as
> > well as other social media accounts, I will start right away if everyone's
> > willing.
> > I propose to incorporate a social media feed on our website to increase the
> > interactivity here.
> > I am also working on the redesigning the website project from GSoC and I
> > would love you guys to give me feedback on this design I have thought of for
> > the main website: http://sanchitbansal.xyz/GSoC. This is just initial idea,
> > I will update a lot of stuff in coming days.
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Walter Bender 
> > wrote:
> > FWIW, there is a FB version of Turtle Blocks [1], but I never followed
> > through to get it "authorized". Justed need to add a little glue to the JS
> > code to enable it.
> > -walter
> >
> > [1] https://apps.facebook.com/turtleblocks/
> > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 6:08 AM, samson goddy 
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > As a part of sugar vision, i have been doing a lot of research these days on
> > how i can make the platform bigger. So thanks to the sugarizer team(lionel)
> > no we can have the OS on every device and app market. We have on android, I
> > tunes, Amazon, firefox and chrome i guess. But i think it should be on
> > Facebook app to. Where you can be using sugarizer while doing your Facebook
> > thingy.  This is a way of getting more users via the social media. I hope
> > that this will go a long way. Also all the JS sugar activity can also be in
> > these platform. With over 1.8 billion users on Facebook i know we will be
> > getting a lot of traffics.
> >
> >
> > Samson Goddy
> > 
> >
> >
> > --
> > Walter Bender
> > Sugar Labshttp://www.sugarlabs.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ___
> >
> > Sugar-devel mailing list
> >
> > sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org
> >
> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "Per aspera ad astra"
> > Regards
> > Sanchit BansalFirst Year Undergraduate M +91 822940537 |
> > sanchit.bansal_u...@ashoka.edu.in | www.sanchitbansal.xyz
> > CAMPUS Plot No. 2, Rajiv Gandhi Education City, Kundli, NCR
> >
> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Ignacio Rodríguez
  ___
Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing

Re: [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

[Ignacio Rodríguez]

As Facebook user, I think that Sugarizer wouldn't have success.
What I mean, when I look through Facebook "market", I try to find
games that my friends play, so it can be more ¿cool?.

Probably if we publish Sugarizer it would have 50-200 monthly users.
I prefer to use sugarizer in it official website, or just sugar..

idk,
that is what I think


Sorry for my bad english :3

Grettings

2016-04-07 11:47 GMT-03:00, samson goddy :
> I will be happy to work with you on that.
>
> From: sanchit.bansal_u...@ashoka.edu.in
> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 16:38:18 +0530
> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar
> activities))
> To: walter.ben...@gmail.com
> CC: samsongo...@hotmail.com; h...@unleashkids.org;
> marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org;
> lio...@olpc-france.org; tony_ander...@usa.net
>
> I can certainly help with directing a lot of traffic to our facebook page as
> well as other social media accounts, I will start right away if everyone's
> willing.
> I propose to incorporate a social media feed on our website to increase the
> interactivity here.
> I am also working on the redesigning the website project from GSoC and I
> would love you guys to give me feedback on this design I have thought of for
> the main website: http://sanchitbansal.xyz/GSoC. This is just initial idea,
> I will update a lot of stuff in coming days.
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Walter Bender 
> wrote:
> FWIW, there is a FB version of Turtle Blocks [1], but I never followed
> through to get it "authorized". Justed need to add a little glue to the JS
> code to enable it.
> -walter
>
> [1] https://apps.facebook.com/turtleblocks/
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 6:08 AM, samson goddy 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> As a part of sugar vision, i have been doing a lot of research these days on
> how i can make the platform bigger. So thanks to the sugarizer team(lionel)
> no we can have the OS on every device and app market. We have on android, I
> tunes, Amazon, firefox and chrome i guess. But i think it should be on
> Facebook app to. Where you can be using sugarizer while doing your Facebook
> thingy.  This is a way of getting more users via the social media. I hope
> that this will go a long way. Also all the JS sugar activity can also be in
> these platform. With over 1.8 billion users on Facebook i know we will be
> getting a lot of traffics.
>
>
> Samson Goddy
>   
>
>
> --
> Walter Bender
> Sugar Labshttp://www.sugarlabs.org
>
>
>
>
> ___
>
> Sugar-devel mailing list
>
> sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org
>
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>
>
>
>
> --
> "Per aspera ad astra"
> Regards
> Sanchit BansalFirst Year Undergraduate M +91 822940537 |
> sanchit.bansal_u...@ashoka.edu.in | www.sanchitbansal.xyz
> CAMPUS Plot No. 2, Rajiv Gandhi Education City, Kundli, NCR
>
>   


-- 
Ignacio Rodríguez
___
Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing

Re: [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

[Sean DALY]

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Dave Crossland  wrote:

> One of the ideas of Sugar is to raise awareness about the software freedom
> movement, and as such, providing the full experience within the facebook
> police-state playpark is an own-goal. We should reach people where they are
> in the playpark and lead them out of it.


I concur. The fb apps have an integrated browser and we could try pointing
to a web address from our fb page. We would need to test how well Sugarizer
works in their browser. I believe it's also possible to escape the fb
browser and call the device's native browser, but i don't know the details.

Smart marketing involves identifying a target with an objective, then
choosing a media channel to touch that target. It's tempting to go the
other way around and say "facebook is a heavyweight channel, so let's
concentrate there, and everybody likes games, so let's put up a game", but
for a workable strategy we need to first identify the target and objective,
verify the target's presence in media channels (facebook or others), choose
the best channel(s), then tailor the message to the target to achieve the
objective. Facebook has massive penetration and it's likely many people in
our target groups will be there. So we could certainly have separate
parallel facebook campaigns for recruitment (volunteers), donors
(resources), and teachers (adopters, prescriptors). To reach teachers, we
could decide to highlight the pedagogical qualities of some of our
Activities (Turtle Blocks, eToys), or we could prefer to present the Sugar
interface. In the first case a standalone facebook app could be a good
solution. In the second case a link to a Sugarizer instance would probably
make more sense. In both cases there should be a call to action to invite
teachers to learn more about the platform and its Activities.

Sean.
___
Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing

Re: [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

[Dave Crossland]

Hi

You are probably more familiar than I am with the facebook free basics
fiasco. Facebook seeks to establish itself as a grand gateway to what the
internet can do, and the software freedom movement yearns to make Facebook
obsolete. (eg, see
https://www.softwarefreedom.org/news/2010/feb/10/highlights-eben-moglens-freedom-cloud-talk/
)

One of the ideas of Sugar is to raise awareness about the software freedom
movement, and as such, providing the full experience within the facebook
police-state playpark is an own-goal. We should reach people where they are
in the playpark and lead them out of it.

:)



On 7 April 2016 at 09:31, Vishal Batchu  wrote:

> Hi Dave,
> I can see why you want to limit the app on facebook, but don't you think
> that it would be better if everyone could have the full sugar/sugarizer
> experience independent of where they are using it currently (facebook in
> this case)? If it is technically not possible to run the entire sugarizer
> app over there due to some limitations it is fine, but I would personally
> like it if sugar/sugarizer offered as much as possible on facebook as well.
> But then again, sugarizer itself has only a few activities as of now
> compared to Sugar, so I guess it would be limited in that way anyways.
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Dave Crossland  wrote:
>
>> I think facebook app/game versions of sugar activities is smart
>> marketing, but I would suggest making them a little limited, to get people
>> hooked on them, and then telling people to upgrade to the main
>> http://server.sugarizer.org app to play the next level.
>>
>> ___
>> Sugar-devel mailing list
>> sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org
>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>>
>>
>


-- 
Cheers
Dave
___
Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing

Re: [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

[Vishal Batchu]

Hi Dave,
I can see why you want to limit the app on facebook, but don't you think
that it would be better if everyone could have the full sugar/sugarizer
experience independent of where they are using it currently (facebook in
this case)? If it is technically not possible to run the entire sugarizer
app over there due to some limitations it is fine, but I would personally
like it if sugar/sugarizer offered as much as possible on facebook as well.
But then again, sugarizer itself has only a few activities as of now
compared to Sugar, so I guess it would be limited in that way anyways.

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Dave Crossland  wrote:

> I think facebook app/game versions of sugar activities is smart marketing,
> but I would suggest making them a little limited, to get people hooked on
> them, and then telling people to upgrade to the main
> http://server.sugarizer.org app to play the next level.
>
> ___
> Sugar-devel mailing list
> sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>
>
___
Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing

Re: [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

[Dave Crossland]

I think facebook app/game versions of sugar activities is smart marketing,
but I would suggest making them a little limited, to get people hooked on
them, and then telling people to upgrade to the main
http://server.sugarizer.org app to play the next level.
___
Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing

Re: [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

[Sanchit Bansal]

I can certainly help with directing a lot of traffic to our facebook page
as well as other social media accounts, I will start right away if
everyone's willing.

I propose to incorporate a social media feed on our website to increase the
interactivity here.

I am also working on the redesigning the website project from GSoC and I
would love you guys to give me feedback on this design I have thought of
for the main website: http://sanchitbansal.xyz/GSoC. This is just initial
idea, I will update a lot of stuff in coming days.

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Walter Bender 
wrote:

> FWIW, there is a FB version of Turtle Blocks [1], but I never followed
> through to get it "authorized". Justed need to add a little glue to the JS
> code to enable it.
>
> -walter
>
> [1] https://apps.facebook.com/turtleblocks/
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 6:08 AM, samson goddy 
> wrote:
>
>> As a part of sugar vision, i have been doing a lot of research these days
>> on how i can make the platform bigger. So thanks to the sugarizer
>> team(lionel) no we can have the OS on every device and app market. We have
>> on android, I tunes, Amazon, firefox and chrome i guess. But i think it
>> should be on Facebook app to. Where you can be using sugarizer while doing
>> your Facebook thingy.  This is a way of getting more users via the social
>> media. I hope that this will go a long way. Also all the JS sugar activity
>> can also be in these platform. With over 1.8 billion users on Facebook i
>> know we will be getting a lot of traffics.
>>
>>
>> Samson Goddy
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Walter Bender
> Sugar Labs
> http://www.sugarlabs.org
> 
>
> ___
> Sugar-devel mailing list
> sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>
>


-- 

"Per aspera ad astra"

Regards

*Sanchit Bansal*

First Year Undergraduate

M +91 822940537 | sanchit.bansal_u...@ashoka.edu.in | www.sanchitbansal.xyz


CAMPUS Plot No. 2, Rajiv Gandhi Education City, Kundli, NCR
___
Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing

Re: [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

[Walter Bender]

FWIW, there is a FB version of Turtle Blocks [1], but I never followed
through to get it "authorized". Justed need to add a little glue to the JS
code to enable it.

-walter

[1] https://apps.facebook.com/turtleblocks/

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 6:08 AM, samson goddy 
wrote:

> As a part of sugar vision, i have been doing a lot of research these days
> on how i can make the platform bigger. So thanks to the sugarizer
> team(lionel) no we can have the OS on every device and app market. We have
> on android, I tunes, Amazon, firefox and chrome i guess. But i think it
> should be on Facebook app to. Where you can be using sugarizer while doing
> your Facebook thingy.  This is a way of getting more users via the social
> media. I hope that this will go a long way. Also all the JS sugar activity
> can also be in these platform. With over 1.8 billion users on Facebook i
> know we will be getting a lot of traffics.
>
>
> Samson Goddy
>



-- 
Walter Bender
Sugar Labs
http://www.sugarlabs.org

___
Marketing mailing list
Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing