Re: [Fwd: GUADEC7 press release draft]

2005-06-22 Thread Germán Poó Caamaño
Le mercredi 22 juin 2005 à 15:40 +0200, Quim Gil a écrit :
> No typo: ca_ES locale.  :)
> 
> http://www.igcweb.net/web/php/coneixigc/default.php
> 
> "The Internet Global Congress, the leading Internet and New Technologies
> congress in Spain, is organised by the Fundació Barcelona Digital."

That's enforce why should be "Barcelona (Catalonia - Spain)". :-)

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Re: [Fwd: GUADEC7 press release draft]

2005-06-22 Thread Quim Gil
No typo: ca_ES locale.  :)

http://www.igcweb.net/web/php/coneixigc/default.php

"The Internet Global Congress, the leading Internet and New Technologies
congress in Spain, is organised by the Fundació Barcelona Digital."

Quim

En/na Germán Poó Caamaño ha escrit:
> Le mercredi 22 juin 2005 à 13:19 +0200, Claus Schwarm a écrit :
> 
>>On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:52:40 +0200
>>[...]
>>About the IGC
>>
>>The Internet Global Congress is the leading Internet and New
>>Technologies congress in Spain. Organized by the Fundació Barcelona
>>Digital, the Congress comprises a series of conferences addressing a
>>number of key Information Society themes, and an exhibition (IGC
>>Village) where delegates can discover the latest ICT products and
>>services. More at www.igcweb.net.
> 
> 
> There is a typo here.  It should be "Fundación" ('n' at the end)
> instead "Fundació".
> 

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Re: [Fwd: GUADEC7 press release draft]

2005-06-22 Thread Germán Poó Caamaño
Le mercredi 22 juin 2005 à 13:19 +0200, Claus Schwarm a écrit :
> On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:52:40 +0200
> [...]
> About the IGC
> 
> The Internet Global Congress is the leading Internet and New
> Technologies congress in Spain. Organized by the Fundació Barcelona
> Digital, the Congress comprises a series of conferences addressing a
> number of key Information Society themes, and an exhibition (IGC
> Village) where delegates can discover the latest ICT products and
> services. More at www.igcweb.net.

There is a typo here.  It should be "Fundación" ('n' at the end)
instead "Fundació".

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Re: [Fwd: GUADEC7 press release draft]

2005-06-22 Thread Claus Schwarm
On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:34:02 +0200
Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> > I don't think, any German would favour Munich (Bavaria - Germany).
> 
> Ok, that was a bad example then. Barcelona (Catalonia - Spain) is
> frequently used down here precisely to avoid arguments.
> 
> > What
> > should GNOME fans in Extremedura, for example, say about such a
> > distinction?
> 
> This "distinction" is one of the big issues in Spain since ages, you
> will find a wide range of opinions everywhere, Extremadura and
> Barcelona included. Hint: you don't want to get involved in this
> discussion.
> 
> Some would write Barcelona (Spain), some Barcelona (Catalonia).
> Because the GUADEC is no related to regional politics at all, we
> recommend to put both or none.
> 

Thx for the explanation. :-)

I didn't want to argue about it; just understand what we're doing, and
why we're doing it.

"to Barcelona (Catalonia - Spain)." instead of "to Barcelona, Spain"
then.

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Re: [Fwd: GUADEC7 press release draft]

2005-06-22 Thread Quim Gil

> I don't think, any German would favour Munich (Bavaria - Germany).

Ok, that was a bad example then. Barcelona (Catalonia - Spain) is
frequently used down here precisely to avoid arguments.

> What
> should GNOME fans in Extremedura, for example, say about such a
> distinction?

This "distinction" is one of the big issues in Spain since ages, you
will find a wide range of opinions everywhere, Extremadura and Barcelona
included. Hint: you don't want to get involved in this discussion.

Some would write Barcelona (Spain), some Barcelona (Catalonia). Because
the GUADEC is no related to regional politics at all, we recommend to
put both or none.

But the fact of putting "(Catalonia - Spain)" it's not a distinction,
it's an approximation. It's the way to say that Barcelona it's in
Catalonia and Catalonia is in Spain. This is 100% institutional
considering how Spain is legally constituted. I mean, it's not like
saying Free Kurdistan or something.

I understand all this doesn't make sense for a German - or even less
sense for a US citizen. But believe me, here it does make sense. Ask
Jordi Mallach, ask the GNOME Hispano people. You may get different
answers but all them will agree that it makes sense to put "Barcelona
(Catalonia - Spain) or simply Barcelona if the priority is not get mixed
with the political debate.

Sorry for all this. Again, this is the recommendation of the Barcelona
team. Don't kill the messenger.  :)

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Re: [Fwd: GUADEC7 press release draft]

2005-06-22 Thread Claus Schwarm
On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:52:40 +0200
Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> > * I think the board generally wanted to downplay the linkage between
> > the two conferences- we might want to leave that out until we figure
> > out the relationship more concretely.
> 
> The Barcelona team agrees wit this. We also want to downplay this
> linkage before we know more specifically what is the relation with the
> IGC.
> 
> Just in case you thought we were specially interested promoting the
> IGC, which is not the case. They host, we need to agree the terms and
> conditions, we have aggod relation but thet's it.
> 

I thought of promoting GUADEC and GNOME by mentioning the size of
the IGC. Let's face it: GUADEC gains attention if there's a possibility
that the GNOME community establishes closer contacts with the Spanish
IT/Internet industry.

> More things:
> 
> - Speaking about he IGC, they have moved dates... I'm going to explain
> this to the board list. I don't think the change is bad because it
> leaves the IGC just one year after Stuttgart. We could start on Sat
> 27/may, having the weekend just for the GUADEC. On Monday would start
> the IGC and it lasts until Fri 2/june. The board is considering how
> many days would the GUADEC last.
>

Ehm, that means GUADEC starts on May, the 27th and ends...?

 
> - In general, people here feels more confortable when you locate
> Bacelona like this: "Barcelona (Catalonia - Spain)". Mmm if you know
> about Scotland, Quebec, Corsica, Basqueland, Bavaria, Puerto Rico,
> etc, you may understand that something like this makes (almost)
> everybody happy.
>

I don't think, any German would favour Munich (Bavaria - Germany). What
should GNOME fans in Extremedura, for example, say about such a
distinction?
 
> - And the 'local guy' quote:
> 

Build in, new version attached. Btw, does it make any sense to attach
these versions, or is somebody else taking care of the changes?

Cheers,
Claus


GUADEC 2006 SLATED FOR BARCELONA

The 7th annual GNOME User and Developer European Conference (GUADEC)
will draw businesses, government, education and end users to Barcelona.

BOSTON, Mass. - 20 June, 2005 - The 7th annual GNOME User and Developer
European Conference (GUADEC) will bring software developers, as well as 
business, government and private users of free and open source software 
to Barcelona, Spain. 

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and discussions about the future of GNOME.

GUADEC takes place April 29 - May 4, 2006 at Fira de Barcelona, in
combination with the Internet Global Congress (IGC). The event will be
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(Catalan Government), the Council of Barcelona, the IGC and the local
free software community. 

Owen Taylor, chairman of the board of the GNOME Foundation, welcomes the
participation of the local administrations: "This is a splendid
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to  the use of open standards and free and open source software in the
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Catalan Government, Oriol Ferran, highlighted "the importance for
Catalunya to host events such as GUADEC as it helps us to support the
government's national policy to promote Free Software development".

According to Oriol Ferran, "These meetings allow us to access the main
points of debate about Free Software development thus situating
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About GUADEC

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members of the GNOME project to showcase their work and to discuss 

Re: [Fwd: GUADEC7 press release draft]

2005-06-22 Thread Quim Gil

> * I think the board generally wanted to downplay the linkage between
> the two conferences- we might want to leave that out until we figure
> out the relationship more concretely.

The Barcelona team agrees wit this. We also want to downplay this
linkage before we know more specifically what is the relation with the IGC.

Just in case you thought we were specially interested promoting the IGC,
which is not the case. They host, we need to agree the terms and
conditions, we have aggod relation but thet's it.

More things:

- Speaking about he IGC, they have moved dates... I'm going to explain
this to the board list. I don't think the change is bad because it
leaves the IGC just one year after Stuttgart. We could start on Sat
27/may, having the weekend just for the GUADEC. On Monday would start
the IGC and it lasts until Fri 2/june. The board is considering how many
days would the GUADEC last.

- In general, people here feels more confortable when you locate
Bacelona like this: "Barcelona (Catalonia - Spain)". Mmm if you know
about Scotland, Quebec, Corsica, Basqueland, Bavaria, Puerto Rico, etc,
you may understand that something like this makes (almost) everybody happy.

- And the 'local guy' quote:

The secretary for Telecommunications and the Information Society in the
Catalan Government, Oriol Ferran, highlighted "the importance for
Catalunya to host events such as GUADEC as it helps us to support the
government's national policy to promote Free Software development".
According to Oriol Ferran "These meetings allow us to access the main
points of debate about Free Software development thus situating
Catalonia as an international reference point in this field".

Quim
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