Re: GNOME Installation Howtos

[Paul Cutler]

On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 11:42 -0500, Darton Williams wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> In reference to http://website-editors.gnome.org/download/installation:
> 
> The only existing links to Howtos were for *BSD. Since these guides
> were on the official distribution websites, it made sense to try and
> find guides on the official site for each of the other listed distros.
> However, many are nonexistent and others such as PCLinuxOS recommend a
> fork built with GNOME.
> 
> So the question is, should we find reliable unofficial guides (e.g.
> howtoforge) to fill in the blanks, or simply remove the distros
> without official guides and try to focus on the distros with? I've
> started this with the 2.28 list, taking the distros listed on older
> versions which do have official guides.
> 
> Also, I think the distinction between the versions and the presence of
> different distros in each version list may confuse people.
> 
> Best,
> 
> dartonw

Hi Darton,

First, thank you so much for helping review and edit the content.

For both the Distributions and the Installation page, I agree that the
presence of multiple versions is confusing.  I believe we should only
link to the latest release, in this case 2.28.  (I also think we should
list the distros alphabetically to avoid the perception of playing
favorites).

For installation, I think the original intent of that page was to give
an overview for building from source or using jhbuild, not for
upgrading / installing GNOME on distros.  I think the distro support and
unofficial guides should be out of scope for our website. (Copying the
marketing list for feedback on this).

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Re: Stickers

[Larry Cafiero]

Hi, all --

I won't be working the GNOME booth at SCALE, so I don't know what the
sticker situation will be until I get the box back next week.

So I'll let you know when the box returns to me what the sticker situation
-- and other swag -- is.

[Actually, I'm just the keeper of the event box -- it lives with the Fedora
event box in my office :-) ]

Larry Cafiero

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Rosanna Yuen  wrote:

> I think that depends on how Larry is planning on rationing the stickers.
> Previously, we had planned on a sleeve of them per event.  I believe
> that is 250 stickers.
>
> Thanks,
> Rosanna
>
> On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 18:42 +, Steve Lee wrote:
> > Thanks Rosanna
> >
> > For now I'd like to get an idea of how many will be in the box, so we
> > decide if we need more.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > On 17 February 2010 18:28, Rosanna Yuen  wrote:
> > > Hi Steve,
> > >
> > > Like Stormy said, we ordered rolls of stickers.  However, they are
> > > precut and sent in stacks.  Off the top of my head, I believe there
> were
> > > four round designs (the gnome foot on different backgrounds) and a
> > > couple of rectangular ones.  I think they may be on the marketing pages
> > > somewhere.  If not, I can send them to you.
> > >
> > > I believe Stickerrobot does a print run once a week, so depending on
> how
> > > soon you need the stickers, you may have to go with someone else.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Rosanna
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 11:02 -0700, Stormy Peters wrote:
> > >> We ordered them from http://stickerrobot.com/templates/. We order
> > >> rolls of stickers now instead of sheets.
> > >>
> > >> Rosanna could give you more info like the images we used and exact
> > >> product we ordered. (I think Lucas worked on it with her.)
> > >>
> > >> Stormy
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Steve Lee 
> > >> wrote:
> > >> Hi
> > >>
> > >> I understand that there will be some stickers in the
> > >> replacement event
> > >> box which I think will be used at the CSUN conference for the
> > >> a11y
> > >> hackfest.
> > >>
> > >> Does anyone know how many there are or how to order some more
> > >> as swag
> > >> goes pretty fast at CSUN.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >>
> > >> Steve Lee
> > >> Full Measure
> > >> --
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> > >> marketing-list@gnome.org
> > >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
> >
>
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Re: introductions (was Re: )

[John Williams]

>
> On 02/09/2010 04:49 PM, Nelson Marques wrote:
>
>>  I would like to ask one thing to this list, would it be possible for
>> people to introduce themselfs and say what is their role around on the
>> list?
>>
>> Hello all.

My name is John Williams.  I am not a developer or documenter.  I am a user.
 I also study and teach Marketing at a university.  Studying for about 20
years, teaching for about 15.

My view of marketing is probably different to that of most people on this
list.  To me "Marketing" is a business philosophy, while evidently to most
other people this word means "sales and promotion".  That is one set of
activities that the business philosophy guides, but not the only set.

The "philosophy" is roughly this: learn about what your customers (actual
and potential) want, and then give it to them --- if it's a good idea.

Reason's why it might not be a good idea are include:

- it's illegal or morally wrong (some customers clearly want cocaine, child
pornography or tobacco, for example).

- it doesn't fit your corporate purpose and/or resources (e.g. GNOME isn't
going to start delivering quality health care to its users)

- it won't make a buck (in the case of for-profit organisations)

None of these apply to us.  So, "marketing GNOME", to me, does not mean
"pushing our product on to the market"; rather it means "finding out what
would make our users happier and more productive, and crafting our product
to deliver that".

In other words: listen to users.  And give them what they want/need.  If
it's not crack.

Thus endeth the rant.
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Re: Stickers

[Rosanna Yuen]

I think that depends on how Larry is planning on rationing the stickers.
Previously, we had planned on a sleeve of them per event.  I believe
that is 250 stickers.

Thanks,
Rosanna

On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 18:42 +, Steve Lee wrote:
> Thanks Rosanna
> 
> For now I'd like to get an idea of how many will be in the box, so we
> decide if we need more.
> 
> Steve
> 
> On 17 February 2010 18:28, Rosanna Yuen  wrote:
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > Like Stormy said, we ordered rolls of stickers.  However, they are
> > precut and sent in stacks.  Off the top of my head, I believe there were
> > four round designs (the gnome foot on different backgrounds) and a
> > couple of rectangular ones.  I think they may be on the marketing pages
> > somewhere.  If not, I can send them to you.
> >
> > I believe Stickerrobot does a print run once a week, so depending on how
> > soon you need the stickers, you may have to go with someone else.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rosanna
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 11:02 -0700, Stormy Peters wrote:
> >> We ordered them from http://stickerrobot.com/templates/. We order
> >> rolls of stickers now instead of sheets.
> >>
> >> Rosanna could give you more info like the images we used and exact
> >> product we ordered. (I think Lucas worked on it with her.)
> >>
> >> Stormy
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Steve Lee 
> >> wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> I understand that there will be some stickers in the
> >> replacement event
> >> box which I think will be used at the CSUN conference for the
> >> a11y
> >> hackfest.
> >>
> >> Does anyone know how many there are or how to order some more
> >> as swag
> >> goes pretty fast at CSUN.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Steve Lee
> >> Full Measure
> >> --
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> >> marketing-list@gnome.org
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Re: Campaign Proposal

[Nelson Marques]

On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 12:34 -0600, Shaun McCance wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 21:27 +, Nelson Marques wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > In attachment there is a proposal for a new campaign and it's goals. To
> > unravel this a bit, it aims to position GNOME brand as an ecological
> > supporting brand alongside with some things we can do to promote this.
> > 
> > Another aspect interesting is that through this campaign we are also
> > trying to mobilize new artists to cooperate with GNOME Project.
> > 
> > There are other concerns, and this campaign was designed to be a generic
> > campaign that would allow other campaigns to brew from this one, mainly
> > to support GNOME through art.
> > 
> > I am proposing with this campaign the following:
> > 
> > 1. Give names to GNOME Releases based on endangered species which share
> > strong points with the main features of GNOME. This is appealing to
> > users and at some point allows the usage of a more catchy name for every
> > release, thus we promote a social responsible cause and broaden our
> > contributors to a new standard, including organizations which promote
> > several endangered species through the donation of art and media such as
> > high resolution pictures, movies, etc.
> > This is also a great opportunity to advocate the usage of Free
> > Standards.
> 
> I like this idea a lot.  We stopped doing release names a few
> years ago, largely because of the controversy over naming one
> of our releases "Temujin".  Some people decided that choosing
> non-controversial release names was near impossible, so we just
> stopped doing release names altogether.
> 
> This proposal would involve us making a value statement, and
> that could cause some controversy.  I'm not saying not to do
> it.  It's just something that people should be aware of if they
> try to push this through.  There could be pushback, and there's
> some history.
> 
> If I could make a request, could we not start with the Iberian
> Lynx?  Apple is well-known for naming their releases after cats,
> and I fear if we started with a cat, the "endangered species"
> theme would get lost, and people would just think we're copying
> Apple.  After we've established the theme, by all means bring
> out the cats.  I love cats.
> 
> --
> Shaun
> 


 How are the GNOME's community feelings towards the Red Wolf (the most
endangered canine species with less than 50 specimens)? I can seek
cooperation with the Missouri Department of Conservation for this issue
(http://mdc.mo.gov/).

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwXcPs_5J6g

 There is also a wicked option, the spider monkey, I probably assume
this has a lot of fans within GNOME:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1XVyqqqPi4

 There is a Bolivian organization who is fighting for the spider monkeys
and the Amazon rain forest (their habitat). Can also seek cooperation
with them.

 Nelson.
 


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Colors and meanings

[Nelson Marques]

 This might be interesting for some people... I've been taking a look
into the Friends of GNOME campaign and I found some artwork in green
background plus white text.

  There is a meaning associated with this at low level psychology, the
perception that people have from the colors (this is based from a
western civilization point of view, as this can be different in
different cultural regions).

 > Green: Translates into growth, nature and money. A calming color also
that's very pleasant to the senses. Darker green associates with
conservative, masculine and wealth. Green is also associated with
harmony, confortable nurturing, support and energy. Green is the
traditional color of peace.

 > White: White is often associated with purity, safety. Projects aswell
the absence of color, neutrality. Creativity. (NOTE: In some eastern
countries this color is associated with mourning).

 
 - I wrote this email as curiosity, and I'm compiling a full list with
the positive and negative perceptions people do from colors to present
this list (based on MERCATOR XXI) to share with this list, I would
suppose this might help future decisions and documentation buildings.

 NM


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Re: Guadec and Dutch government plans for OSS and desktop

[Brian Cameron]

Sanne:

One thing that I notice is that your document makes no mention of
accessibility.  Many governments are interested in supporting
workers, citizens and students who are disabled.  GNOME provides,
at no cost, a wide range of accessibility support for users who are
blind, have vision problems, and have mobility impairments.  No
other free desktop yet provides the support that GNOME provides at
no cost.

Note that proprietary solutions for the disabled can be very expensive.
To make a computer using a proprietary operating system support the
same degree of accessibility support that is provided at no charge with
GNOME, it is often necessary to spend thousands of dollars purchasing
additional software needed to provide this sort of functionality.

I would think this would be of interest to any government.

Brian



I've made a post before where I addressed the Dutch' government plans
for OSS in their desktop. As Guadec will be in holland this year, the
organisation is aiming to have one or a view sessions about OSS in
public intstitutions. The government just released a consultation asking
for feedback about their plans.

The document and interaction with government could provide several
opportunities:
-It could give vital information about preconditions to target
government markets.
-Gnome could give an official reaction to them (before the end of march)
or later in a technical magazine or webzine to praise the merits of the
plans and criticize weaknesses, and showing themselves as a serious
contender.
-Could provide an opportunity for exposure as a lot of magazines might
be interested in Gnome's thoughts about this.
-resulting in Buzz, exposure, increased opportunities for Guadec
fundraising, etc. etc.

You decide, here it is. It's in dutch. If you think this could be
interesting, let me know, so we might have someone translate it.
http://wiki.noiv.nl/xwiki/bin/download/OpenDWR/WebHome/RealisatielijnOpenDWRv0.93februari.pdf


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Re: Guadec and Dutch government plans for OSS and desktop

[Stormy Peters]

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Sanne te Meerman <
sa...@opensourceadvies.nl> wrote:

>
> Marketing Team, who should work on the response?
>>
>
> I can translate interesting parts tomorrow, and give my thoughts on what I
> personally would think is important in a response. But especially about the
> technical merits of i.e. Kerberos, LDAP that they're planning to use, I
> don't have anything wise to say (or anything to say at all). I'm also not
> very experienced with these type of press releases so anyone with experience
> would be very welcome to help out.
>
> I don't think I'm the best person either.

Perhaps we should reach out to a different team? The release team? The
desktop mailing list?

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Re: Guadec and Dutch government plans for OSS and desktop

[Sanne te Meerman]

Stormy Peters schreef:

Hi Sanne,

I think that's a great idea.

If at all possible, we should reply back with comment within the 
comment period.
Ok, bear in mind though that it's the 1st of march, not the end of 
March. Sorry, my mistake.


Then I think there are many technical publications/magazines that we 
could work with to publish a public response.


Marketing Team, who should work on the response?
I can translate interesting parts tomorrow, and give my thoughts on what 
I personally would think is important in a response. But especially 
about the technical merits of i.e. Kerberos, LDAP that they're planning 
to use, I don't have anything wise to say (or anything to say at all). 
I'm also not very experienced with these type of press releases so 
anyone with experience would be very welcome to help out.


best, Sanne


Stormy

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Sanne te Meerman 
mailto:sa...@opensourceadvies.nl>> wrote:


Hi,

I've made a post before where I addressed the Dutch' government
plans for OSS in their desktop. As Guadec will be in holland this
year, the organisation is aiming to have one or a view sessions
about OSS in public intstitutions. The government just released a
consultation asking for feedback about their plans.

The document and interaction with government could provide several
opportunities:
-It could give vital information about preconditions to target
government markets.
-Gnome could give an official reaction to them (before the end of
march) or later in a technical magazine or webzine to praise the
merits of the plans and criticize weaknesses, and showing
themselves as a serious contender.
-Could provide an opportunity for exposure as a lot of magazines
might be interested in Gnome's thoughts about this.
-resulting in Buzz, exposure, increased opportunities for Guadec
fundraising, etc. etc.

You decide, here it is. It's in dutch. If you think this could be
interesting, let me know, so we might have someone translate it.

http://wiki.noiv.nl/xwiki/bin/download/OpenDWR/WebHome/RealisatielijnOpenDWRv0.93februari.pdf

regards,
Sanne

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Re: Campaign Proposal

[Diego Escalante Urrelo]

El mié, 17-02-2010 a las 17:47 +, Nelson Marques escribió:
> 
>  Diego,
> 
>  I would maintain the number, just add the (promotion) "name" ahead.
> Removing numbers will probably make a huge turmoil, and it's not really
> necessary. I don't know the dev's position, but I would assume it would
> would be handy to keep.
> 

Yeah, that's what I meant, "GNOME 2.30: The Philosophical Panther", that
style of naming.


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Re: Campaign Proposal

[Nelson Marques]

On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 12:34 -0600, Shaun McCance wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 21:27 +, Nelson Marques wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > In attachment there is a proposal for a new campaign and it's goals. To
> > unravel this a bit, it aims to position GNOME brand as an ecological
> > supporting brand alongside with some things we can do to promote this.
> > 
> > Another aspect interesting is that through this campaign we are also
> > trying to mobilize new artists to cooperate with GNOME Project.
> > 
> > There are other concerns, and this campaign was designed to be a generic
> > campaign that would allow other campaigns to brew from this one, mainly
> > to support GNOME through art.
> > 
> > I am proposing with this campaign the following:
> > 
> > 1. Give names to GNOME Releases based on endangered species which share
> > strong points with the main features of GNOME. This is appealing to
> > users and at some point allows the usage of a more catchy name for every
> > release, thus we promote a social responsible cause and broaden our
> > contributors to a new standard, including organizations which promote
> > several endangered species through the donation of art and media such as
> > high resolution pictures, movies, etc.
> > This is also a great opportunity to advocate the usage of Free
> > Standards.
> 
> I like this idea a lot.  We stopped doing release names a few
> years ago, largely because of the controversy over naming one
> of our releases "Temujin".  Some people decided that choosing
> non-controversial release names was near impossible, so we just
> stopped doing release names altogether.
> 
> This proposal would involve us making a value statement, and
> that could cause some controversy.  I'm not saying not to do
> it.  It's just something that people should be aware of if they
> try to push this through.  There could be pushback, and there's
> some history.
> 
> If I could make a request, could we not start with the Iberian
> Lynx?  Apple is well-known for naming their releases after cats,
> and I fear if we started with a cat, the "endangered species"
> theme would get lost, and people would just think we're copying
> Apple.  After we've established the theme, by all means bring
> out the cats.  I love cats.
> 
> --
> Shaun
> 

Shaun,

 Your arguments are valid, and of course I respect them.

 I am aware of Apple using big cats, but they use it because of their
own reasons, we use them to alert people about the one nowadays
problems, the extinction of certain species.

 I'm opened to further suggestions for names of endangered species. I've
proposed this one, because I do know this cause. Remember that whatever
name we choose there is supposed to be a background on it and a reason.
The reason is that we want to sensibilize users about this or that
species. Also remember that our users will be targeted by communication
and explained that we use names of species that might disappear soon,
and we dont use "big cats" names.

 Another point that is important in choosing the "species" we want to
promote is that they share features that can be applied to GNOME.
Remember our main goal is still advertising GNOME and lead people to
join us, contributing, etc.

 Just for curiosity, the lynx actually is a smaller version of the
leopard and shares the main features of the leopard combined with the
speed of a cheetah.
 Don't forget that we're also giving projection to organizations that
work day to day with this species, and no one can blame us for choosing
this or that animal, because we need to find before support amongst this
organizations.

 We ain't copying Apple, we're supporting a righteous cause for a
gracious animal ;) Apple might be using big cats, but are they promoting
any social cause with it ? :)

 Always open to suggestions, and remember, this isn't my campaign, it's
GNOME's campaign, so I'll follow strictly the guidelines provided.

 I'm going to start working on selecting a couple of species so we have
some options, and then someone will select one. We can even make this
selection for marketing purposes, like launching a public challenge for
our users and sympathizers to vote on a few, bringing more life to the
project.

 I'm liking a lot the positive feedback. Before hand, we can establish
this campaign for a certain number of releases and then change to
another topic like Technology or something that is very common in
people's day to day life, like "Space Exploration" I would recon that
having NASA, European Space Agency and so on contributing with more raw
art materials would also help.

 We need also to define a timeline for each campaign, so I start working
on future campaigns. We can't spend 10 years advertising the same cause,
we can relate a theme to each major release for instance, would sound so
monolithic.

 Next Step: Gather a compilation of qualifying species for this theme.
Will update soon.

 Nelson


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Re: Stickers

[Steve Lee]

Thanks Rosanna

For now I'd like to get an idea of how many will be in the box, so we
decide if we need more.

Steve

On 17 February 2010 18:28, Rosanna Yuen  wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> Like Stormy said, we ordered rolls of stickers.  However, they are
> precut and sent in stacks.  Off the top of my head, I believe there were
> four round designs (the gnome foot on different backgrounds) and a
> couple of rectangular ones.  I think they may be on the marketing pages
> somewhere.  If not, I can send them to you.
>
> I believe Stickerrobot does a print run once a week, so depending on how
> soon you need the stickers, you may have to go with someone else.
>
> Thanks,
> Rosanna
>
>
> On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 11:02 -0700, Stormy Peters wrote:
>> We ordered them from http://stickerrobot.com/templates/. We order
>> rolls of stickers now instead of sheets.
>>
>> Rosanna could give you more info like the images we used and exact
>> product we ordered. (I think Lucas worked on it with her.)
>>
>> Stormy
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Steve Lee 
>> wrote:
>>         Hi
>>
>>         I understand that there will be some stickers in the
>>         replacement event
>>         box which I think will be used at the CSUN conference for the
>>         a11y
>>         hackfest.
>>
>>         Does anyone know how many there are or how to order some more
>>         as swag
>>         goes pretty fast at CSUN.
>>
>>         Thanks
>>
>>         Steve Lee
>>         Full Measure
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Re: Campaign Proposal

[Shaun McCance]

On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 21:27 +, Nelson Marques wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> In attachment there is a proposal for a new campaign and it's goals. To
> unravel this a bit, it aims to position GNOME brand as an ecological
> supporting brand alongside with some things we can do to promote this.
> 
> Another aspect interesting is that through this campaign we are also
> trying to mobilize new artists to cooperate with GNOME Project.
> 
> There are other concerns, and this campaign was designed to be a generic
> campaign that would allow other campaigns to brew from this one, mainly
> to support GNOME through art.
> 
> I am proposing with this campaign the following:
> 
> 1. Give names to GNOME Releases based on endangered species which share
> strong points with the main features of GNOME. This is appealing to
> users and at some point allows the usage of a more catchy name for every
> release, thus we promote a social responsible cause and broaden our
> contributors to a new standard, including organizations which promote
> several endangered species through the donation of art and media such as
> high resolution pictures, movies, etc.
> This is also a great opportunity to advocate the usage of Free
> Standards.

I like this idea a lot.  We stopped doing release names a few
years ago, largely because of the controversy over naming one
of our releases "Temujin".  Some people decided that choosing
non-controversial release names was near impossible, so we just
stopped doing release names altogether.

This proposal would involve us making a value statement, and
that could cause some controversy.  I'm not saying not to do
it.  It's just something that people should be aware of if they
try to push this through.  There could be pushback, and there's
some history.

If I could make a request, could we not start with the Iberian
Lynx?  Apple is well-known for naming their releases after cats,
and I fear if we started with a cat, the "endangered species"
theme would get lost, and people would just think we're copying
Apple.  After we've established the theme, by all means bring
out the cats.  I love cats.

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Re: Stickers

[Rosanna Yuen]

Hi Steve,

Like Stormy said, we ordered rolls of stickers.  However, they are
precut and sent in stacks.  Off the top of my head, I believe there were
four round designs (the gnome foot on different backgrounds) and a
couple of rectangular ones.  I think they may be on the marketing pages
somewhere.  If not, I can send them to you.

I believe Stickerrobot does a print run once a week, so depending on how
soon you need the stickers, you may have to go with someone else.

Thanks,
Rosanna


On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 11:02 -0700, Stormy Peters wrote:
> We ordered them from http://stickerrobot.com/templates/. We order
> rolls of stickers now instead of sheets.
> 
> Rosanna could give you more info like the images we used and exact
> product we ordered. (I think Lucas worked on it with her.)
> 
> Stormy
> 
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Steve Lee 
> wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I understand that there will be some stickers in the
> replacement event
> box which I think will be used at the CSUN conference for the
> a11y
> hackfest.
> 
> Does anyone know how many there are or how to order some more
> as swag
> goes pretty fast at CSUN.
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Re: GNOME US Event Box

[Larry Cafiero]

Hey, Eitan --

If you're going to use the event box for your event, could you pick up the
box at SCALE on Sunday night? It would save me from having to ship it back
to myself and then ship it back to you. We might also make arrangements for
you to pick it up on Monday if Sunday doesn't work for you.

Let me know.

Larry Cafiero

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Eitan Isaacson wrote:

> Hey Larry.
>
> I'm glad I found this thread!
> We are going to need the event box at CSUN (http://csunconference.org)
> from March 23rd through the 27th.
>
> Cheers,
>   Eitan.
>
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Larry Cafiero 
> wrote:
> > That's great, Rosanna -- and a good call to do it after the holidays, as
> not
> > to get mixed up with the holiday rush. I have no preference actually when
> to
> > get it, just as long as I know when it's coming.
> >
> > Thanks, all, and hope you all are having a great holiday season.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Rosanna Yuen  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Larry,
> >>
> >> I was planning on waiting until after the Christmas rush to send it off.
> >> If you have a preference for when you want it to arrive, let me know and
> >> I will see what I can do.  I believe UPS ground will take five to seven
> >> days.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Rosanna
> >>
> >> On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 07:39 -0800, Larry Cafiero wrote:
> >> > Hi, all --
> >> >
> >> > Sorry for getting back so late in response, but thank you for that
> >> > welcome, Stormy.
> >> >
> >> > Could someone let me know when the box is being sent to me so I know
> >> > when to expect it? It's being shipped to my computer shop and I'd like
> >> > someone to be there when it arrives (as not to impose on my commercial
> >> > neighbors).
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance.
> >> >
> >> > Larry Cafiero
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Stormy Peters 
> >> > wrote:
> >> > Hi GNOME Marketing folks,
> >> >
> >> > Larry Cafiero[1] is going to be taking over the GNOME US Event
> >> > Box. Please welcome Larry to the GNOME Marketing team.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks to Rosanna for maintaining the GNOME Event Box for all
> >> > these years!
> >> >
> >> > Larry's first trip with the box will be to SCALE. If you need
> >> > the box any where in the US, please let Larry know.
> >> >
> >> > We're still working on a few things to add to the box:
> >> > * putting stickers in the box (Rosanna)
> >> > * working on a banner (Vinicius)
> >> > * tshirts for the volunteers (Rosanna)
> >> > * working on handouts (Paul Cutler, Denise)
> >> >
> >> > We're also working on an FAQ, talking points and other info
> >> > for the people that man the booth - this info will be on the
> >> > wiki.
> >> >
> >> > For those interested in helping out, we are also looking for
> >> > someone to send out Friends of GNOME gifts. I'm hoping this
> >> > can mostly be done through our Zazzle store once it's up and
> >> > running but right now it means maintaining our stash of
> >> > goodies (stickers, tshirts, mugs, etc) and mailing them out
> >> > every couple of weeks to people that have donated to Friends
> >> > of GNOME. If you are interested, let me know.
> >> >
> >> > Best,
> >> >
> >> > Stormy
> >> >
> >> > [1] http://larrythefreesoftwareguy.wordpress.com/
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
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Re: Mobile Giving Foundation

[Stormy Peters]

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Bharat Kapoor <3.kap...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Stormy
>
> I will respond to this question in two steps.
>
> Part 1
> Breakeven - we need around 11 people giving 10 bucks for the 1st 3 months
> to breakeven.
>
> Part 2
> I think we should treat this as a pilot as we dont even know how our
> members will respond there will be an acceptance period and we should take
> the 300 bucks we pay them over 3 months as Capital Expense. At the end of 3
> month we should be in a position to decide further if this works or not - my
> assumption is that if we have around 20 folks giving we should be in good
> shape and since this is Tax free donation - we should send them receipts so
> technically it willo cost them between $7 and $7.50 to make a donation of
> $10 to Gnome.
>

+1 to investing $300 to see if it works. We'll have to make sure everyone is
ready to advertise it on Planet/Identica/Twitter/Facebook, etc.

What do others think?

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Re: Stickers

[Stormy Peters]

We ordered them from http://stickerrobot.com/templates/. We order rolls of
stickers now instead of sheets.

Rosanna could give you more info like the images we used and exact product
we ordered. (I think Lucas worked on it with her.)

Stormy

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Steve Lee  wrote:

> Hi
>
> I understand that there will be some stickers in the replacement event
> box which I think will be used at the CSUN conference for the a11y
> hackfest.
>
> Does anyone know how many there are or how to order some more as swag
> goes pretty fast at CSUN.
>
> Thanks
>
> Steve Lee
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Stickers

[Steve Lee]

Hi

I understand that there will be some stickers in the replacement event
box which I think will be used at the CSUN conference for the a11y
hackfest.

Does anyone know how many there are or how to order some more as swag
goes pretty fast at CSUN.

Thanks

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Re: Campaign Proposal

[Nelson Marques]

On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 12:34 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote:
> El mié, 17-02-2010 a las 08:09 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna escribió:
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Nelson Marques <07...@ipam.pt> wrote:
> > 
> >  Please flame at will...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I would hope that nobody would do such a thing for putting effort and
> > time into an idea.  We have serious community issues if one expects to
> > be flamed when proposing an idea.  This isn't LKML. :)
> > 
> 
> Yeah, don't worry ;). We are all friendly people, or try to be :).
> 
> I do like the idea you are proposing in the doc (others: it's a quick
> read, give it a look), three concrete points I liked:
> 
>  - referring to releases by a name instead of a number, this works fine
> for Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora
> 
>  - associating the species features to GNOME release features, this
> could give an easy starting point for a lot of material I think
> 
>  - attracting more artistic contribution since the theme stops being
> "GNOME" (geeky, computers) and becomes "$species" (wildlife, ecology,
> colourful).
> 
> I'd like to see this, what do others think?

 Diego,

 I would maintain the number, just add the (promotion) "name" ahead.
Removing numbers will probably make a huge turmoil, and it's not really
necessary. I don't know the dev's position, but I would assume it would
would be handy to keep.

 NM


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Re: Campaign Proposal

[Diego Escalante Urrelo]

El mié, 17-02-2010 a las 08:09 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna escribió:
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Nelson Marques <07...@ipam.pt> wrote:
> 
>  Please flame at will...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I would hope that nobody would do such a thing for putting effort and
> time into an idea.  We have serious community issues if one expects to
> be flamed when proposing an idea.  This isn't LKML. :)
> 

Yeah, don't worry ;). We are all friendly people, or try to be :).

I do like the idea you are proposing in the doc (others: it's a quick
read, give it a look), three concrete points I liked:

 - referring to releases by a name instead of a number, this works fine
for Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora

 - associating the species features to GNOME release features, this
could give an easy starting point for a lot of material I think

 - attracting more artistic contribution since the theme stops being
"GNOME" (geeky, computers) and becomes "$species" (wildlife, ecology,
colourful).

I'd like to see this, what do others think?

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Re: GNOME US Event Box

[Eitan Isaacson]

Hey Larry.

I'm glad I found this thread!
We are going to need the event box at CSUN (http://csunconference.org)
from March 23rd through the 27th.

Cheers,
  Eitan.

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Larry Cafiero  wrote:
> That's great, Rosanna -- and a good call to do it after the holidays, as not
> to get mixed up with the holiday rush. I have no preference actually when to
> get it, just as long as I know when it's coming.
>
> Thanks, all, and hope you all are having a great holiday season.
>
> Larry
>
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Rosanna Yuen  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Larry,
>>
>> I was planning on waiting until after the Christmas rush to send it off.
>> If you have a preference for when you want it to arrive, let me know and
>> I will see what I can do.  I believe UPS ground will take five to seven
>> days.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rosanna
>>
>> On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 07:39 -0800, Larry Cafiero wrote:
>> > Hi, all --
>> >
>> > Sorry for getting back so late in response, but thank you for that
>> > welcome, Stormy.
>> >
>> > Could someone let me know when the box is being sent to me so I know
>> > when to expect it? It's being shipped to my computer shop and I'd like
>> > someone to be there when it arrives (as not to impose on my commercial
>> > neighbors).
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance.
>> >
>> > Larry Cafiero
>> >
>> > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Stormy Peters 
>> > wrote:
>> >         Hi GNOME Marketing folks,
>> >
>> >         Larry Cafiero[1] is going to be taking over the GNOME US Event
>> >         Box. Please welcome Larry to the GNOME Marketing team.
>> >
>> >         Thanks to Rosanna for maintaining the GNOME Event Box for all
>> >         these years!
>> >
>> >         Larry's first trip with the box will be to SCALE. If you need
>> >         the box any where in the US, please let Larry know.
>> >
>> >         We're still working on a few things to add to the box:
>> >         * putting stickers in the box (Rosanna)
>> >         * working on a banner (Vinicius)
>> >         * tshirts for the volunteers (Rosanna)
>> >         * working on handouts (Paul Cutler, Denise)
>> >
>> >         We're also working on an FAQ, talking points and other info
>> >         for the people that man the booth - this info will be on the
>> >         wiki.
>> >
>> >         For those interested in helping out, we are also looking for
>> >         someone to send out Friends of GNOME gifts. I'm hoping this
>> >         can mostly be done through our Zazzle store once it's up and
>> >         running but right now it means maintaining our stash of
>> >         goodies (stickers, tshirts, mugs, etc) and mailing them out
>> >         every couple of weeks to people that have donated to Friends
>> >         of GNOME. If you are interested, let me know.
>> >
>> >         Best,
>> >
>> >         Stormy
>> >
>> >         [1] http://larrythefreesoftwareguy.wordpress.com/
>> >
>>
>>
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Re: Mobile Giving Foundation

[Bharat Kapoor]

Hi Stormy

I will respond to this question in two steps.

Part 1
Breakeven - we need around 11 people giving 10 bucks for the 1st 3 months to
breakeven.

Part 2
I think we should treat this as a pilot as we dont even know how our members
will respond there will be an acceptance period and we should take the 300
bucks we pay them over 3 months as Capital Expense. At the end of 3 month we
should be in a position to decide further if this works or not - my
assumption is that if we have around 20 folks giving we should be in good
shape and since this is Tax free donation - we should send them receipts so
technically it willo cost them between $7 and $7.50 to make a donation of
$10 to Gnome.

I looked at XIPWIRE - its cool - only issue one additional step (and dont
know their setup fee). Apart from that we can use Mobile causes's other
tools to market our stuff and  that can be used for buzz around Boston
summit and Gnome 3 rel.

Sorry I could not join the Mktg mtg on 13th.

Let me know what u guys think.

Regards
Bbarat


On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Stormy Peters  wrote:

> Thanks for the update, Bharat.
>
> If you could also figure out how many donations we'd need to break even,
> that would probably help with the decision.
>
> I found some good info in this article[1] about what companies usually
> charge nonprofits for this type of service.
>
> Stormy
>
> [1]
> http://mobileactive.org/mobile-giving-and-haiti-earthquake-relief-efforts
>
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Bharat Kapoor <3.kap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry folks - was a little sick for the last week or so.
>>
>> I pinged all of the ASPs and have heard back from quite a few. The
>> fees/costs are all over the place.
>>
>> The best that I have found till now is as follows:
>>
>> Services offered (I think there is more than just donation collection via
>> mobile.)
>>
>> Messaging broadcast, iPhone app, All services, text in Votes, Text to
>> Phone bill or Credit card. (I am expecting detailed docs today)
>>
>> No setup, No startup
>> Host Plan: (Saves us all the application work)
>> $99/mo - 50cents per transaction, 90 day cancellation.
>>
>> Discounts (This is the best I was able to negotiate), per transaction fee
>> stays same
>> 3mo - 10% on monthly fee
>> 1yr - 10 mo (pay 10 months of fee instead of 12)
>>
>> Once we reach a critical mass, where paying a higher monthly fee is viable
>> and transaction fees start hurting us we can renegotiate (already discussed)
>>
>> I am still waiting to hear from a couple of more folks - but thi sounds
>> the best deal - lets discuss in Feb 13th meeting.
>>
>> Regards
>> Bharat
>>
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Re: Introductions

[Nelson Marques]

Stormy,

 Got it. Awesome stuff.
 I'm going to give you a contact of a national hardware manufacturer
which is supplying Laptops for students through the government (not the
cursed Magalhães).

 Unfortunatly they use a national distribution called Caixa Mágica
(Magic Box, http://www.caixamagica.pt) which is focused on KDE. This is
sad, but it's the reality. Caixa Magica is built based on SuSE/openSuSE
sources.

 I would like you to contact this person (the CEO of the company) and CC
it to the contact I'm also providing. They sponsored me in 2001 for my
even and they are often opened to new challenges.

 This company is distributing computer with linux pre-installed for over
5 years, which makes them a pioneer in the Portuguese Market. Also offer
him a possibility participate if possible with a speaker about open
source or GNU/Linux as an alternative on pre-installed PC's. And why
don't use GNOME ;)

 Gonna send this in private email.

 Nelson.

On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 09:43 -0700, Stormy Peters wrote:
> Great.
> 
> I'll send the brochure to you offlist.
> 
> Stormy
> 
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Nelson Marques <07...@ipam.pt> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 09:15 -0700, Stormy Peters wrote:
> > Hi Nelson,
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Nelson Marques
> <07...@ipam.pt>
> > wrote:
> > About Guadec, have you contacted Vodafone? or any
> other big
> > Mobile
> > operators? I would assume that pushing the right
> keys, they
> > would tag
> > alongside with Guadec. Also try to have small local
> business
> > present,
> > and push hardware manufacturers into it aswell.
> Tryed BenQ ?
> > it's a
> > Benelux based company, should be interest from them.
> > Having a company like BenQ with us could help.
> >
> > Are you willing to identify and approach some of these
> companies about
> > GUADEC sponsorship? We have a brochure, so the main work is
> > identifying contacts, approaching them, giving a pitch and
> then
> > following up with them. (And following up with them. And
> following up
> > with them. ;)
> >
> > Stormy
> >
> 
> 
>  Hi,
> 
>  I can dig some information about possible interested
> companies and try
> to approach them. I do know that some are more friendly
> because I've
> contacted about 280 Operators (including MVNO's) in Europe in
> the past.
> 
>  Before approaching we need to know a couple of things:
> 
>  # What benefits can they take from sponsoring (ex: how are we
> going to
> advertise them, expected visitors)
> 
>  # What do we need from them (ex: money, merchandising, etc)
> 
>  # I would advice also than when applies, we should ask for
> participation as well, like providing speakers to conferences.
> This get
> touchy as some companies are related to users and opensource,
> but in a
> different way from us... for instance the emerging market for
> netbooks
> and tables is of interest to Vodafone as they provide carrier
> data
> services through GSM Networks. They are attacking this niche,
> but the
> issue is how we relate it with open source. So, this needs
> some
> thinking.
> 
> 
>  Taking a look into potential companies that can help us. I do
> have a
> background in the Netherlands, as I lived there for almost 2
> years, I
> can most likely get some contacts from companies like
> Logitech.
> 
>  Point me the material that we have already done. As you now
> my english
> is not native, and before I contact them, I'll send to the
> list a
> general message so that people can fix it correctly and I'll
> take it
> from there.
> 
>  I'll place some effort on this one. It would help if we have
> a program
> already available for the event and a list of
> activities/participation's.
> 
> 
>  I'll be in touch about this.
> 
>  NM
> 
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Re: Campaign Proposal

[Nelson Marques]

On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 08:09 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Nelson Marques <07...@ipam.pt> wrote:
> 
>  Please flame at will...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I would hope that nobody would do such a thing for putting effort and
> time into an idea.  We have serious community issues if one expects to
> be flamed when proposing an idea.  This isn't LKML. :)
> 
> 
> That said, I haven't looked at the attached docs, but I do like the
> idea of ecological friendliness and naming releases after endangered
> animals is a splendid idea.  O'Reilly did something similar with the
> cover of their books although the animals weren't endangered and
> interestingly enough I remember the covers as well as the title
> sometimes the cover before the title.
> 
> 
> sri


 It's not a big idea as it's already for ages with GNU/Linux
distributions, by Apple, etc.

 The point is actually not to do it randomly, but transmitting to the
audience that we care about this. This will also open a window for
further participation on forthcoming releases.

 I used the Lynx because it's something that I know, but we'll need more
endangered species for next releases if this is a go, so providing new
ideas for endangered species to use is also good.

 I do believe it's reliable to do this and that it will surprise a lot
of people, and we will cut the "copy cat" issues by fundamenting the
idea with something that really no one can point fingers.
 
 I also thought that this might be a good campaign to launch further
challenges to the community. I'll give a practical example. I "gear up"
my desktop on DeviantART (around 3000 GTK themes/engines), Emerald
themes etc... For the GTK Themes I do install them by unpacking them
into the .themes folder. People who are arriving to GNOME will install
very few themes using the theme installer because the themes provided
don't comply and are missing files required by the installer.
 This is a point that people not so technical might prefer to swap to
KDE for instance.
 Through this we can launch a campaign for artists to make a theme about
endangered species and submit it. We have to do it according to our
rules, and that comes with full compliant themes. We already have
documentation on that.
 We can get people who participate to be connected to GNOME if we
distribute their themes on the release. I don't know how distributions
like Fedora, openSuSE, Ubuntu, etc stand when distributing GNOME, but we
can ask for their support and distribute this packages (themes/artwork).

 We can provide wallpapers made by contributors using the donated images
through art.gnome.org as we can also distribute them through the
organizations who will cooperate with us (ex: SOS Lynx) and of course
promote GNOME at zero cost through another channels.

 I believe this is a good way to expand not only GNOME philosophy and
Free Software, but also to attempt to get more people commited to GNOME.

 I wouldn't expect we have full themes supporting Metacity, Emerald,
GTK, icon sets etc... but I would recon that many people would most
likely be willing to provide art and become interested in GNOME.

 A reliable campaign like this could even allow us to offer challenges
to schools, remember that distributing themes donated on official
releases it's also a great victory for artists who get their work
distributed around for millions of users. If this is not appealing, we
might need to think on something else, but it's a start.

 Doesn't require resources from the GNOME Community, won't endangered
other projects, so I see it as a win situation.

 About the flames, the important is that everyone can provide ideas and
debate. I'm interested on everyone's point of view. Besides "flaming"
and "flames" are words that call for people's attention ;)

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Re: Introductions

[Stormy Peters]

Great.

I'll send the brochure to you offlist.

Stormy

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Nelson Marques <07...@ipam.pt> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 09:15 -0700, Stormy Peters wrote:
> > Hi Nelson,
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Nelson Marques <07...@ipam.pt>
> > wrote:
> > About Guadec, have you contacted Vodafone? or any other big
> > Mobile
> > operators? I would assume that pushing the right keys, they
> > would tag
> > alongside with Guadec. Also try to have small local business
> > present,
> > and push hardware manufacturers into it aswell. Tryed BenQ ?
> > it's a
> > Benelux based company, should be interest from them.
> > Having a company like BenQ with us could help.
> >
> > Are you willing to identify and approach some of these companies about
> > GUADEC sponsorship? We have a brochure, so the main work is
> > identifying contacts, approaching them, giving a pitch and then
> > following up with them. (And following up with them. And following up
> > with them. ;)
> >
> > Stormy
> >
>
>  Hi,
>
>  I can dig some information about possible interested companies and try
> to approach them. I do know that some are more friendly because I've
> contacted about 280 Operators (including MVNO's) in Europe in the past.
>
>  Before approaching we need to know a couple of things:
>
>  # What benefits can they take from sponsoring (ex: how are we going to
> advertise them, expected visitors)
>
>  # What do we need from them (ex: money, merchandising, etc)
>
>  # I would advice also than when applies, we should ask for
> participation as well, like providing speakers to conferences. This get
> touchy as some companies are related to users and opensource, but in a
> different way from us... for instance the emerging market for netbooks
> and tables is of interest to Vodafone as they provide carrier data
> services through GSM Networks. They are attacking this niche, but the
> issue is how we relate it with open source. So, this needs some
> thinking.
>
>
>  Taking a look into potential companies that can help us. I do have a
> background in the Netherlands, as I lived there for almost 2 years, I
> can most likely get some contacts from companies like Logitech.
>
>  Point me the material that we have already done. As you now my english
> is not native, and before I contact them, I'll send to the list a
> general message so that people can fix it correctly and I'll take it
> from there.
>
>  I'll place some effort on this one. It would help if we have a program
> already available for the event and a list of
> activities/participation's.
>
>
>  I'll be in touch about this.
>
>  NM
>
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Re: Introductions

[Nelson Marques]

On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 09:15 -0700, Stormy Peters wrote:
> Hi Nelson,
> 
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Nelson Marques <07...@ipam.pt>
> wrote:
> About Guadec, have you contacted Vodafone? or any other big
> Mobile
> operators? I would assume that pushing the right keys, they
> would tag
> alongside with Guadec. Also try to have small local business
> present,
> and push hardware manufacturers into it aswell. Tryed BenQ ?
> it's a
> Benelux based company, should be interest from them.
> Having a company like BenQ with us could help.
> 
> Are you willing to identify and approach some of these companies about
> GUADEC sponsorship? We have a brochure, so the main work is
> identifying contacts, approaching them, giving a pitch and then
> following up with them. (And following up with them. And following up
> with them. ;)
> 
> Stormy
> 

 Hi,

 I can dig some information about possible interested companies and try
to approach them. I do know that some are more friendly because I've
contacted about 280 Operators (including MVNO's) in Europe in the past.

 Before approaching we need to know a couple of things:
 
 # What benefits can they take from sponsoring (ex: how are we going to
advertise them, expected visitors)

 # What do we need from them (ex: money, merchandising, etc)

 # I would advice also than when applies, we should ask for
participation as well, like providing speakers to conferences. This get
touchy as some companies are related to users and opensource, but in a
different way from us... for instance the emerging market for netbooks
and tables is of interest to Vodafone as they provide carrier data
services through GSM Networks. They are attacking this niche, but the
issue is how we relate it with open source. So, this needs some
thinking.


 Taking a look into potential companies that can help us. I do have a
background in the Netherlands, as I lived there for almost 2 years, I
can most likely get some contacts from companies like Logitech.

 Point me the material that we have already done. As you now my english
is not native, and before I contact them, I'll send to the list a
general message so that people can fix it correctly and I'll take it
from there.

 I'll place some effort on this one. It would help if we have a program
already available for the event and a list of
activities/participation's.
 

 I'll be in touch about this.

 NM
 


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Re: Introductions

[Stormy Peters]

Hi Nelson,

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Nelson Marques <07...@ipam.pt> wrote:

> About Guadec, have you contacted Vodafone? or any other big Mobile
> operators? I would assume that pushing the right keys, they would tag
> alongside with Guadec. Also try to have small local business present,
> and push hardware manufacturers into it aswell. Tryed BenQ ? it's a
> Benelux based company, should be interest from them.
> Having a company like BenQ with us could help.
>
> Are you willing to identify and approach some of these companies about
GUADEC sponsorship? We have a brochure, so the main work is identifying
contacts, approaching them, giving a pitch and then following up with them.
(And following up with them. And following up with them. ;)

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Re: Introductions

[Sriram Ramkrishna]

Well sure it's just my opinion that I have good idea.. I have to have some
ego in this group!

sri

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Behdad Esfahbod  wrote:

> Do you? ;)
>
> I'm behdad by the way.  Just listening and occasionally teasing.
>
> behdad
>
> On 02/16/2010 07:16 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
> > I am.. er sri.  I don't seem to have a role other than to participate
> > and snark.  I do occasionally come up with good ideas that I have no
> > time to implement.
> >
> > sri
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Dave Neary  > > wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Nelson Marques wrote:
> > >  I would like to ask one thing to this list, would it be possible
> for
> > > people to introduce themselfs and say what is their role around on
> the
> > > list?
> >
> > Dave Neary
> > http://live.gnome.org/DaveNeary
> > http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh
> > http://dneary.free.fr
> > http://www.neary-consulting.com
> >
> http://www.linkedin.com/ppl/webprofile?action=vmi&id=2873233&pvs=pp&authToken=qu0I&authType=name&trk=ndir_viewmore&lnk=vw_pprofile
> > <
> http://www.linkedin.com/ppl/webprofile?action=vmi&id=2873233&pvs=pp&authToken=qu0I&authType=name&trk=ndir_viewmore&lnk=vw_pprofile
> >
> >
> http://www.google.com/search?q=Dave+Neary&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
> > <
> http://www.google.com/search?q=Dave+Neary&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
> >
> >
> > I started many of the initiatives the marketing team is now working
> on -
> > collecting marketing materials, co-ordinating user groups,
> researching a
> > GNOME store, having a regular annual marketing & community travel
> > budget, having an annual foundation report (I wrote most of the first
> > one, and a good bit of the 2nd and 3rd), getting & using a CRM, and
> I'm
> > currently working on a GNOME census to answer some of the questions
> we
> > keep getting asked & have no good answer for.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Dave.
> >
> > --
> > Dave Neary
> > GNOME Foundation member
> > dne...@gnome.org 
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Re: Campaign Proposal

[Sriram Ramkrishna]

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Nelson Marques <07...@ipam.pt> wrote:

>
>  Please flame at will...
>
>
>
I would hope that nobody would do such a thing for putting effort and time
into an idea.  We have serious community issues if one expects to be flamed
when proposing an idea.  This isn't LKML. :)

That said, I haven't looked at the attached docs, but I do like the idea of
ecological friendliness and naming releases after endangered animals is a
splendid idea.  O'Reilly did something similar with the cover of their books
although the animals weren't endangered and interestingly enough I remember
the covers as well as the title sometimes the cover before the title.

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Re: Guadec and Dutch government plans for OSS and desktop

[Stormy Peters]

Hi Sanne,

I think that's a great idea.

If at all possible, we should reply back with comment within the comment
period.

Then I think there are many technical publications/magazines that we could
work with to publish a public response.

Marketing Team, who should work on the response?

Stormy

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Sanne te Meerman  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've made a post before where I addressed the Dutch' government plans for
> OSS in their desktop. As Guadec will be in holland this year, the
> organisation is aiming to have one or a view sessions about OSS in public
> intstitutions. The government just released a consultation asking for
> feedback about their plans.
>
> The document and interaction with government could provide several
> opportunities:
> -It could give vital information about preconditions to target government
> markets.
> -Gnome could give an official reaction to them (before the end of march) or
> later in a technical magazine or webzine to praise the merits of the plans
> and criticize weaknesses, and showing themselves as a serious contender.
> -Could provide an opportunity for exposure as a lot of magazines might be
> interested in Gnome's thoughts about this.
> -resulting in Buzz, exposure, increased opportunities for Guadec
> fundraising, etc. etc.
>
> You decide, here it is. It's in dutch. If you think this could be
> interesting, let me know, so we might have someone translate it.
>
> http://wiki.noiv.nl/xwiki/bin/download/OpenDWR/WebHome/RealisatielijnOpenDWRv0.93februari.pdf
>
> regards,
> Sanne
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Re: Guadec and Dutch government plans for OSS and desktop

[Sanne te Meerman]

I'll have my men working on this, on the double!! :-)

Ok, I didn't phrase that very well. What I meant was, if there's enough 
enthousiasm, I'm sure a volunteer can be found for this :-)


I'll put my two cents in tomorrow, to sketch the outline.

best,
Sanne
Btw, I made a 'tiny' mistake, as an official response to the document 
should be given before the 1st of march, not before the end of march.


Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier schreef:

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Sanne te Meerman
 wrote:
  

You decide, here it is. It's in dutch. If you think this could be
interesting, let me know, so we might have someone translate it.
http://wiki.noiv.nl/xwiki/bin/download/OpenDWR/WebHome/RealisatielijnOpenDWRv0.93februari.pdf



Yes, please do have it translated! :-)

Best,

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Re: Website - Pending content tasks

[Claus Schwarm]

Hi, Darton!

On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 14:09 -0500, Darton Williams wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Lucas Rocha  wrote:
> 
> > Download:
> > - Main page looks ok, a final review would be nice.
> 
> http://website-editors.gnome.org/download
> Marking as "Draft Available", proofread.
> 
> Quick note: the "How to Install GNOME" section uses contractions
> (GNOME is -> GNOME's) resulting in an informal voice, is this the
> intent?

Yes, that's the intent. The copy should appear casual and
conversational.

Thanks for your help!


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Re: Guadec and Dutch government plans for OSS and desktop

[Nelson Marques]

On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 15:35 +0100, Sanne te Meerman wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've made a post before where I addressed the Dutch' government plans 
> for OSS in their desktop. As Guadec will be in holland this year, the 
> organisation is aiming to have one or a view sessions about OSS in 
> public intstitutions. The government just released a consultation asking 
> for feedback about their plans.
> 
> The document and interaction with government could provide several 
> opportunities:
> -It could give vital information about preconditions to target 
> government markets.
> -Gnome could give an official reaction to them (before the end of march) 
> or later in a technical magazine or webzine to praise the merits of the 
> plans and criticize weaknesses, and showing themselves as a serious 
> contender.
> -Could provide an opportunity for exposure as a lot of magazines might 
> be interested in Gnome's thoughts about this.
> -resulting in Buzz, exposure, increased opportunities for Guadec 
> fundraising, etc. etc.
> 
> You decide, here it is. It's in dutch. If you think this could be 
> interesting, let me know, so we might have someone translate it.
> http://wiki.noiv.nl/xwiki/bin/download/OpenDWR/WebHome/RealisatielijnOpenDWRv0.93februari.pdf
> 
> regards,
> Sanne
> 


 Hi Sanne,

 My dutch skills aren't that good. But I'm leaving some information you
might consider precious for now and later if you need for something
else.

 Please check on http://www.kompass.nl (or www.kompass.com) for the
companies where you want to check for sponsorship. You have their
contacts, phone/fax, address, etc.

 I would advice you to make a list of companies that can be involved,
this can cover, mobile operators (forget the MVNO's), banking
institutions, technology institutions and hardware manufacturers.
 I would point some companies for you:

 - Philips Royal Electronics
 - Logitech (It's Logitech payed personel that develops their webcam
drivers for GNU/Linux, though they are not officially supported, but
shows an effort). I would recommend you to contact their Head Office in
Rommanel Sur-Morges / Switzerland.
 - Vodafone
 - T-Mobile
 - ABN/AMRO
 - ING Bank
 - BenQ
 - Motorola (based in Enschede, I lived 200m away from their
installations, next to FC Twente Stadium :)).
 - MSI
 - Plextor (Belgium based)

 I would recon most mobile operators will be willing to participate,
when you contact them, also make sure that you try to recruit speakers
for something we can consider relevant.
 Remember that when GSM4 pops out, mobile operators will have something
to say, as most of them will deliever 100mbit through GSM. This will
cover Netbook/Laptop/tablet, etc... Remember to focus to them that the
potential of GSM Networks is a very important thing for mobile
communications and at some point they will enable it allowing GNOME and
GNU/Linux to use it's max potential.

 Please don't ignore this companies because they usually place lots of
money in things like this. And in Vodafone's case, you can consider a
later Friends of GNOME supporter.

 My two foughts... About the Government, it's nice to show a reaction
from the Government, but thats the field of the bureaucrats. I honestly
believe you will get more support from the private organizations than
from the Government itself. Though contacting the city hall from the
city where it's going to be is important.

 NM


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Re: Website - Pending content tasks

[Darton Williams]

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Lucas Rocha  wrote:

> Download:
> - Main page looks ok, a final review would be nice.

http://website-editors.gnome.org/download
Marking as "Draft Available", proofread.

Quick note: the "How to Install GNOME" section uses contractions
(GNOME is -> GNOME's) resulting in an informal voice, is this the
intent?
"You're already running a Linux or UNIX distribution, but GNOME's
missing? Don't hesitate: GNOME's very..."

> - Distributions page is a bit outdated. Someone needs to check the
> data and update it accordingly with latest GNOME releases.

http://website-editors.gnome.org/download/distributions
Verified distros listed, added a few more shipping 2.28. Marking as
"Draft Available".

> - Installation page has a too long intro. Has a lot of TODO items in
> the shown data. Needs volunteers.
> - Live Images content looks mostly ok,  a final review would be nice.
> Has a TODO item about Bittorrents.
> - GNOME apps on Windows still needs content. Needs volunteers.
> - GNOME apps on Mac still needs content. Needs volunteers.
> - Latest Sources needs intro. Has a bunch of TODO items. Needs volunteers.
>

Best,

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Re: Guadec and Dutch government plans for OSS and desktop

[Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier]

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Sanne te Meerman
 wrote:
> You decide, here it is. It's in dutch. If you think this could be
> interesting, let me know, so we might have someone translate it.
> http://wiki.noiv.nl/xwiki/bin/download/OpenDWR/WebHome/RealisatielijnOpenDWRv0.93februari.pdf

Yes, please do have it translated! :-)

Best,

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Guadec and Dutch government plans for OSS and desktop

[Sanne te Meerman]

Hi,

I've made a post before where I addressed the Dutch' government plans 
for OSS in their desktop. As Guadec will be in holland this year, the 
organisation is aiming to have one or a view sessions about OSS in 
public intstitutions. The government just released a consultation asking 
for feedback about their plans.


The document and interaction with government could provide several 
opportunities:
-It could give vital information about preconditions to target 
government markets.
-Gnome could give an official reaction to them (before the end of march) 
or later in a technical magazine or webzine to praise the merits of the 
plans and criticize weaknesses, and showing themselves as a serious 
contender.
-Could provide an opportunity for exposure as a lot of magazines might 
be interested in Gnome's thoughts about this.
-resulting in Buzz, exposure, increased opportunities for Guadec 
fundraising, etc. etc.


You decide, here it is. It's in dutch. If you think this could be 
interesting, let me know, so we might have someone translate it.

http://wiki.noiv.nl/xwiki/bin/download/OpenDWR/WebHome/RealisatielijnOpenDWRv0.93februari.pdf

regards,
Sanne

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Re: Friends of GNOME Ruler

[Lucas Rocha]

Hi,

2010/2/16 Stormy Peters :
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 4:10 AM, Lucas Rocha  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> So, I have the Friends of GNOME ruler ready to be published in three
>> of our sites:
>>
>> GNOME (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1187037/wgo-ruler.png)
>> Planet (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1187037/planet-ruler.png)
>> Friends of GNOME (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1187037/friends-ruler.png)
>>
>> Design done by Vinicius!
>>
> Nice work!
>
>>
>> So, what we need now is:
>>
>> 1. Do we still want to keep the goal for sysadmin? Just checking.
>
> Yes, because we are about to declare victory and I think that would be good!
>
> Perhaps we could also preannounce another campaign at the same time.

Ok.

>>
>> 2. Add a bit more text in Friends of GNOME front page about the goal.
>> Maybe elaborate a bit more on the benefits of hiring a sysadmin?
>> Volunteers?
>
> Maybe we could reuse the text from the original announcement mail? With some
> wordsmithing ...
>
>  Keeping track of the routine day-to-day system administration tasks
>  is neither glamorous nor a lot of fun, but it's essential to keeping
>  the day-to-day work of thousands of GNOME contributors going. For
>  this reason, the foundation is hoping to hire a part-time sysadmin to
>  handle the coordination role on an ongoing basis. This is dependent
>  on obtaining sufficient funding.

I'm using this exact text in FoG front page now with the only change
of replacing the "This is dependent..." with "Your donations will help
us to achieve this goal!".

>>
>> 3. Consolidate the current donations and sponsors and update the ruler
>> accordingly. Stormy, could you send this info?
>
> The numbers you have are good through the end of January.
>
> $5K Google
> $5K Nokia
> $10K Canonical
> $19,578 2009
> $1,587 2010

Ok, updated.

>>
>> 4. Publish the ruler with a nice announcement about the goal. Need
>> volunteer to write the announcement to be sent to foundation-list and
>> posted in Planet GNOME. Stormy? Paul? Someone else?
>
> I can do this. (Multiple people blogging would be good.)

Nice. Let me know when you have the announcement ready. I think we're
ready to release the ruler.

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