Re: GNOME - Gnome
Hi, Hylke Bons wrote: I am very much against this. Gnome reminds of the the imaginary tiny creatures. I agree with Hylke. GNOME is better than Gnome. Something completely different might be better again... we don't have a huge amount of brand equity worldwide for GNOME, perhaps it's time to consider a rename? Although I can live with GNOME... Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
membership pointers
As we think about how to increase our subscriber numbers, this article had some interesting points about membership. Eight Strategic Mistakes with Memberships http://www.blueavocado.org/node/508 In particular, I don't think we give donors a good idea of how their donations change the world through GNOME. Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME - Gnome
Hi Guys At least now I know what GNOME is an acronym for :) - thanks Hylke. I am working on our mobile fund raising plan and many a times the question came up: Who are we? Why are we in this business? What's our grand vision? At least I could not find a consistent answer (I think I understand the essence) - maybe its ignorance on my part - but anyway. Now why do I bring all this up in this thread? The talk is about name or rename (if our mission is consistent with) GNU Network Object Model Environment - then stick with Gnome or GNOME (I dont have a preference) BUT if our mission / vision / goals are a little different now - maybe we want to think of renaming. But before we go that route would it be worth everyone spelling their view/vision in a couple of sentences. What we should DO and what we should NOT? I agree with Dave too - we dont have a huge brand equity maybe starting fresh may not be such a bad idea (assuming we have a strong reason tod o so) This should give us a clear direction if we need a name change or not. My 2 cents Regards Bharat On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:35 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, Hylke Bons wrote: I am very much against this. Gnome reminds of the the imaginary tiny creatures. I agree with Hylke. GNOME is better than Gnome. Something completely different might be better again... we don't have a huge amount of brand equity worldwide for GNOME, perhaps it's time to consider a rename? Although I can live with GNOME... Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME - Gnome
Hi, Am Freitag, den 02.04.2010, 12:19 -0600 schrieb Jason D. Clinton: If we're going to do this, 3.0 seems like the perfect opportunity. I think that we should decide how we feel as the Marketing Team leading up to the Zaragoza, Spain hackfest and try and come to a final decision by then. IIRC, there has been a vote at a GUADEC (back when it was more of a developers conference than a users conference) about how to pronounce GNOME. I don't think that these kinds of decisions belong into a group as small as the list of attendees of a hackfest. This should either go to d-d-l or foundation-list, and IMHO the foundation should take a look at whether most of the people really like to see a change in the typing. I also think, GNOME 3 is a bad time to reconsider these kinds of things. The development of GNOME branding has happened after GNOME 2.0.0. I don't see why a change like GNOME = Gnome needs to be rushed in… Regards, Sven -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME - Gnome
Am Dienstag, den 06.04.2010, 08:08 -0500 schrieb Bharat Kapoor: At least now I know what GNOME is an acronym for :) The talk is about name or rename (if our mission is consistent with) GNU Network Object Model Environment Once again: GNOME WAS an acronym. GNOME is NOT anymore an acronym. GNOME stands for GNOME nowadays. Only. That's all. andre -- mailto:ak...@gmx.net | failed http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Gnome/Guadec and Government market
Hi Stormy, I think I haven't replied yet but it sounds like a good idea to take the a11y proposals into consideration for the pre-conference. Papers-team, what do you think? Sense, or Crhistophe, can you grant me the rights to see the proposals? best, Sanne Stormy Peters schreef: Perhaps we could give all the core day a11y proposals to Sanne and he can approach them for the government summit as well. Stormy On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org mailto:dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, Reinout van Schouwen wrote: Op dinsdag 30-03-2010 om 16:11 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Sanne te Meerman: Besides a practical comment from Andre Klapper, you were the only one who responded to my request for a talk about accessibility. I've tried Really? I think something must be wrong. Eitan Isaacson said to me he submitted a paper about accessibility: http://monotonous.org/2010/03/23/accessibility-hackday/#comments There are several things getting conflated - Sanne is talking about an accessibility talk for the government summit he's been trying to put together. Eitan submitted a presentation proposal for the core days, which will be evaluated by the program committee. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org mailto:dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-papers mailing list guadec-pap...@gnome.org mailto:guadec-pap...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-papers ___ guadec-papers mailing list guadec-pap...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-papers -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME - Gnome
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Sven Herzberg he...@gnome-de.org wrote: Am Freitag, den 02.04.2010, 12:19 -0600 schrieb Jason D. Clinton: If we're going to do this, 3.0 seems like the perfect opportunity. I think that we should decide how we feel as the Marketing Team leading up to the Zaragoza, Spain hackfest and try and come to a final decision by then. I don't think that these kinds of decisions belong into a group as small as the list of attendees of a hackfest. You're right that it doesn't belong to a group that small; that is why I brought it up on the marketing-list where it belongs. But obviously there isn't any unanimity about it and we have enough on our respective plates already so I withdrawal the proposal. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: membership pointers
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: As we think about how to increase our subscriber numbers, this article had some interesting points about membership. Eight Strategic Mistakes with Memberships http://www.blueavocado.org/node/508 In particular, I don't think we give donors a good idea of how their donations change the world through GNOME. People seem to love hearing about hackfests and I think what we could do--as the marketing team--is, after or during a hackfest event, post a blog post in cooperation with the Travel Committee about how much money was spent on the hackfest to make it happen with a link right there to become a subscriber. I really liked Brian Cameron's summary post of all the people who blogged about the UX Hackfest. If we could copy that style and put at the very top: This is what it your money did, become a subscriber today! -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME - Gnome
I would prefer Gnome to GNOME but not enough to push for it now. Perhaps we could come up with new words for the acronym. You'd be surprised how often I get asked what it stands for. GNOME So it was: GNU Network Object Model Environment What could it be? (I personally can't think of anything at the moment but perhaps I didn't get enough sleep to deal with these types of challenges right now. :) Stormy On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.comwrote: On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Sven Herzberg he...@gnome-de.org wrote: Am Freitag, den 02.04.2010, 12:19 -0600 schrieb Jason D. Clinton: If we're going to do this, 3.0 seems like the perfect opportunity. I think that we should decide how we feel as the Marketing Team leading up to the Zaragoza, Spain hackfest and try and come to a final decision by then. I don't think that these kinds of decisions belong into a group as small as the list of attendees of a hackfest. You're right that it doesn't belong to a group that small; that is why I brought it up on the marketing-list where it belongs. But obviously there isn't any unanimity about it and we have enough on our respective plates already so I withdrawal the proposal. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: membership pointers
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.comwrote: On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: As we think about how to increase our subscriber numbers, this article had some interesting points about membership. Eight Strategic Mistakes with Memberships http://www.blueavocado.org/node/508 In particular, I don't think we give donors a good idea of how their donations change the world through GNOME. People seem to love hearing about hackfests and I think what we could do--as the marketing team--is, after or during a hackfest event, post a blog post in cooperation with the Travel Committee about how much money was spent on the hackfest to make it happen with a link right there to become a subscriber. I really liked Brian Cameron's summary post of all the people who blogged about the UX Hackfest. If we could copy that style and put at the very top: This is what it your money did, become a subscriber today! I like it. Google sponsors just about every hackfest and they always ask for a blog post. (That was part of the reason behind Brian's post - although I'm sure he would have written one about the hackfest anyway.) We also received a donation from an individual specifically for the PyGTK+ hackfest. We debated adding an address to paypal (like hackfe...@gnome.org) specifically for hackfests. Maybe the blog posts, along with the call for support plus the dedicated email address would get support from those who really appreciate the hackfests? We could even let them subscribe just to support hackfests. Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME - Gnome
Something completely different might be better again... we don't have a huge amount of brand equity worldwide for GNOME, perhaps it's time to consider a rename? Although I can live with GNOME... Our brand recognition seems to be mostly within the FOSS group. People really don't know GNOME they know Ubuntu/Fedora/SuSE etc but they don't really know the software that runs their desktop. There is no recognizable branding in any of those desktops. Even in gnome-shell I don't know that I'm using GNOME. Our brand is non-existent in the shell. No icon, no wording, nothing. Changing GNOME's name now could prove distracting but also IMHO ineffective as long as our branding is hidden behind distros. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME - Gnome
+1 I've mailed something only to Dave by mistake regarding some of the dangers of Re-Branding. Dave, feel free to forward to list, as it was my mistake on not hitting reply all. I pointed before also to Dave the following: * If GNOME is expecting some negative feedback on GNOME 3.0, please take that into considerating when thinking on rebranding, as it might bring additional negative charge towards users who are already creating some controversy with gnome-shell for example. Bringing major changes into play now might be harmful. I support Andre's point of view in full. Maybe we need only to do a small communication establishing what as changed (like the drop of the acronym, since the other brand aspects are to remain). nm On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 15:28 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: Am Dienstag, den 06.04.2010, 08:08 -0500 schrieb Bharat Kapoor: At least now I know what GNOME is an acronym for :) The talk is about name or rename (if our mission is consistent with) GNU Network Object Model Environment Once again: GNOME WAS an acronym. GNOME is NOT anymore an acronym. GNOME stands for GNOME nowadays. Only. That's all. andre -- mailto:ak...@gmx.net | failed http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper -- Nelson Marques PGP Fingerprint: 53E1 731B 85A4 A098 8382 8CFF 1AC7 AF01 7717 8063 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME - Gnome
Hi Andre, Andre Klapper wrote: Am Dienstag, den 06.04.2010, 08:08 -0500 schrieb Bharat Kapoor: At least now I know what GNOME is an acronym for :) The talk is about name or rename (if our mission is consistent with) GNU Network Object Model Environment Once again: GNOME WAS an acronym. GNOME is NOT anymore an acronym. GNOME stands for GNOME nowadays. Only. That's all. Except, that's not a good answer. If that's the case, then GNOME can be Gnome or gnome or GnoMe or whatever. All caps implies acronym, and thus people will ask what it stands for. And if you answer it doesn't stand for anything, the most likely answer is that's stupid. Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME - Gnome
El mar, 06-04-2010 a las 18:28 +0200, Dave Neary escribió: Hi Andre, Andre Klapper wrote: Am Dienstag, den 06.04.2010, 08:08 -0500 schrieb Bharat Kapoor: At least now I know what GNOME is an acronym for :) The talk is about name or rename (if our mission is consistent with) GNU Network Object Model Environment Once again: GNOME WAS an acronym. GNOME is NOT anymore an acronym. GNOME stands for GNOME nowadays. Only. That's all. Except, that's not a good answer. If that's the case, then GNOME can be Gnome or gnome or GnoMe or whatever. All caps implies acronym, and thus people will ask what it stands for. And if you answer it doesn't stand for anything, the most likely answer is that's stupid. I don't agree. I usually use André's answer and people just find it curious or funny. I haven't get negative feedback or reactions from GNOME is just GNOME, it was blah blah, but now it's just GNOME. It's not an absolutist answer, just a simple one. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME - Gnome
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 18:28 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: Hi Andre, Andre Klapper wrote: Am Dienstag, den 06.04.2010, 08:08 -0500 schrieb Bharat Kapoor: At least now I know what GNOME is an acronym for :) The talk is about name or rename (if our mission is consistent with) GNU Network Object Model Environment Once again: GNOME WAS an acronym. GNOME is NOT anymore an acronym. GNOME stands for GNOME nowadays. Only. That's all. Except, that's not a good answer. If that's the case, then GNOME can be Gnome or gnome or GnoMe or whatever. All caps implies acronym, and thus people will ask what it stands for. And if you answer it doesn't stand for anything, the most likely answer is that's stupid. Once more I failed on reply-all. Trademark establishes the image of the brand, so: GNOME != gnome GNOME != gNoMe GNOME != Gnome ... plus variations you can imagine. As it also should contemplate it's image. So if the trademark is GNOME without being related to acronym, there should be no relation. I don't know if someone who has legal knowledge of this can support or enlighten people. I do know that when Marketing creates a Trademark all this aspects are usually contemplated. If you trademark is GNOME, then gnome isn't your brand, and it is displayed as such it's a trademark violation!. The acronym might be dropped and all the rest kept. I am not saying we should change or not change anything. I'm just trying to say that I do agree with Andre in having GNOME (dropping the acronym). I don't have the required technical skills to say this, but wouldn't bonobo actually fit better the acronym than GNOME itself (as a product)? Doesn't GNOME go far behond the acronym nowadays? /no flames I'm staying off such process, just trying to point that Trademarks are used alongside other mechanisms for stuff like this. nm Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- Nelson Marques PGP Fingerprint: 53E1 731B 85A4 A098 8382 8CFF 1AC7 AF01 7717 8063 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME - Gnome
Am Dienstag, den 06.04.2010, 18:05 +0100 schrieb Nelson Marques: I don't know if someone who has legal knowledge of this can support or enlighten people. http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/legal-list ? :-) andre -- mailto:ak...@gmx.net | failed http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
GNOME Free Agent T-shirt Proposal
GNOME Marketing Team Over the past several months, I have been trading emails with the OLPC and SugarLabs folks about an opportunity to create a t-shirt to promote that GNOME free software benefits humanitarian projects like OLPC and Sugar Labs, and to provide a nice reward for volunteers within the GNOME community. Based on my rough textual design ideas I have gotten permission from both OLPC and SugarLabs to go ahead with using their logos in this way, though they obviously want to review a final mock-up of what the t-shirt will look like before giving a formal go-ahead. So, I have been thinking of creating a GNOME Free Agent t-shirt. I like this name since Free Agent is a fun play on words and can be interpreted in different ways including being an independent GNOME volunteer. Dongyun Lee (http://dongyunlee.com/) does artwork for OLPC and has volunteered to provide artwork to use on the t-shirt for no charge (though he does want 2 free t-shirts for himself and his wife which seems reasonable). Rather than a photograph of children using OLPC units (photographs are hard to make look nice on tshirts), he suggested using some of his OLPC line art. For example, you can see some work he did for OLPC here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/index.php?template=pagepage=learners Both Dongyun and myself think this particular image would work nicely on a t-shirt: http://dongyunlee.com/imgsrc/il/il24_11.jpg Dongyun has volunteered to create some custom artwork for this t-shirt if we can provide direction. Some people I have shown this image to think it is a bit too busy, so perhaps something a bit toned down would be better. Thoughts? With the photo would appear the following text: [GNOME Logo] Free Software - Powering [OLPC logo] [Sugar Labs logo] Perhaps some additional text under the photograph or under the logo would be nice like Helping previously marginalized children throughout the developing world learn, achieve and begin to transform their communities I was thinking that we could make two versions of the t-shirt. One version to sell for $20 that has nothing on the back. A second version will have the following text on the back and would be given away for no-charge to volunteers who work on GNOME but do not work for a company that works on GNOME. People who work on GNOME for a company would pay $25 for the second version of the tshirt with this text on the back: Free Agent GNOME Free Software Volunteer I am hoping that people on the marketing-list can help with: 1) What do people think of this proposal? Any ideas on how to further improve it? 2) As I mention above, Dongyun is agreeable to creating an image that is more focused on the relationship between GNOME, SugarLabs, and OLPC. Any ideas or direction that we could give to Dongyun would be helpful. 3) Perhaps the proposed image above is a bit too busy. Do people have suggestions on whether the image created for this t-shirt should be changed? Should less colors be used for an image intended for a t-shirt, for example? 4) I need someone with graphic design skills to put together a mock up image of the t-shirt to help facilitate moving this forward. Can anyone help? Thanks, Brian -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Free Agent T-shirt Proposal
Cool concept...more below On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 15:08 -0500, Brian Cameron wrote: I was thinking that we could make two versions of the t-shirt. One version to sell for $20 that has nothing on the back. A second version will have the following text on the back and would be given away for no-charge to volunteers who work on GNOME but do not work for a company that works on GNOME. People who work on GNOME for a company would pay $25 for the second version of the tshirt with this text on the back: Free Agent GNOME Free Software Volunteer Personally, I'd feel a little skittish about walking around in a t-shirt with VOLUNTEER emblazoned across it. It just makes the person wearing it seem less important, when we know that's not the case in our community. It feels like one of those shirts you see at events where there are volunteers helping out, they're important, but they don't quite know everything and if you really want authoritative answers, you go looking for someone who isn't wearing a shirt marked volunteer. There's a variety of reasons why people participate in GNOME without pay and they don't necessarily mean they're doing this out of the goodness of their heart or whatever, but for some of us, we feel participation is a necessity. I personally do not equate job with pay and any work I contribute when I'm not elsewhere getting paid, is to me, still a job. A stronger word that gives those of us who don't get paid more credibility and esteem is in order, I think. Word that pops into my mind is Contributor but frankly I think that word is getting overused and we should think of cooler words. (Guess this is the part where I say something but don't actually offer a constructive suggestion what word to use. :-) ) I am hoping that people on the marketing-list can help with: 1) What do people think of this proposal? Any ideas on how to further Again, cool idea. :-) improve it? 2) As I mention above, Dongyun is agreeable to creating an image that is more focused on the relationship between GNOME, SugarLabs, and OLPC. Any ideas or direction that we could give to Dongyun would be helpful. 3) Perhaps the proposed image above is a bit too busy. Do people have suggestions on whether the image created for this t-shirt should be changed? Should less colors be used for an image intended for a t-shirt, for example? I don't know that it's too busy, per se. It's not a style that I would personally run to the store and buy. Frankly, it's got a more feminine appeal to it, in my opinion, which is not a bad thing. I think too many t-shirts are created out there that focus on the male consumer, even if we are in a community that seems male-dominated. Color-wise, I wouldn't mind more color. I've been known to wear multi-colored shirts, and with style! :-) I do think the design is beautiful, just not something I would necessarily wear personally. The concept behind it is awesome though because it demonstrates that GNOME has a global impact, and that concept should remain intact whether with this design or some other design. (This is purely opinion on my part and others may disagree with my perception of the design.) 4) I need someone with graphic design skills to put together a mock up image of the t-shirt to help facilitate moving this forward. Can anyone help? Thanks, Brian -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME - Gnome
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 11:35 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: Hi, Hylke Bons wrote: I am very much against this. Gnome reminds of the the imaginary tiny creatures. I agree with Hylke. GNOME is better than Gnome. My opinion on this is that GNOME is better that Gnome because we are used to see written that way with our logo, it looks good and we like to reproduce it. BTW, as far as I know, the GNOME uses Trebuchet MS [1] (correct me if I'm wrong) and I think it is time to change it. Best regards, [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trebuchet_MS -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME - Gnome
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 08:08 -0500, Bharat Kapoor wrote: Hi Guys I am working on our mobile fund raising plan and many a times the question came up: Who are we? Why are we in this business? What's our grand vision? At least I could not find a consistent answer (I think I understand the essence) - maybe its ignorance on my part - but anyway. Now why do I bring all this up in this thread? The talk is about name or rename (if our mission is consistent with) GNU Network Object Model Environment - then stick with Gnome or GNOME (I dont have a preference) BUT if our mission / vision / goals are a little different now - maybe we want to think of renaming. But before we go that route would it be worth everyone spelling their view/vision in a couple of sentences. What we should DO and what we should NOT? I agree with Dave too - we dont have a huge brand equity maybe starting fresh may not be such a bad idea (assuming we have a strong reason tod o so) This should give us a clear direction if we need a name change or not. I agree with the mission statement [1] must be changed/updated. There are some points about this on the GNOME SWOT analysis [2] and Claus Schwarm had made some comments recently [3]. I think this a topic worth a new thread :) However, GNOME is evolving all the time so IMHO we don't need a new brand because of that. regards, -- Juanjo [1] http://www.gnome.org/about/ [2] http://live.gnome.org/SWOT [3] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2010-April/msg1.html -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME - Gnome
Am Dienstag, den 06.04.2010, 23:48 +0200 schrieb Juanjo Marin: BTW, as far as I know, the GNOME uses Trebuchet MS [1] (correct me if I'm wrong) and I think it is time to change it. Wrong, see http://live.gnome.org/BrandGuidelines ... andre [PS: Please do not CC me. I am subscribed to this mailing list.] -- mailto:ak...@gmx.net | failed http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Free Agent T-shirt Proposal
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 15:08 -0500, Brian Cameron wrote: With the photo would appear the following text: [GNOME Logo] Free Software - Powering [OLPC logo] [Sugar Labs logo] Perhaps some additional text under the photograph or under the logo would be nice like Helping previously marginalized children throughout the developing world learn, achieve and begin to transform their communities I'd prefer no text, just the image, and I like this one http://www.sugarlabs.org/assets/narrative_10.png I add some GNOME feet. I was thinking that we could make two versions of the t-shirt. One version to sell for $20 that has nothing on the back. A second version will have the following text on the back and would be given away for no-charge to volunteers who work on GNOME but do not work for a company that works on GNOME. People who work on GNOME for a company would pay $25 for the second version of the tshirt with this text on the back: Free Agent GNOME Free Software Volunteer I prefer just GNOME Free Agent, more mistety message I am hoping that people on the marketing-list can help with: 1) What do people think of this proposal? Any ideas on how to further improve it? It is good idea 2) As I mention above, Dongyun is agreeable to creating an image that is more focused on the relationship between GNOME, SugarLabs, and OLPC. Any ideas or direction that we could give to Dongyun would be helpful. I think that a image is good enough with the icons. I prefer a T-shirt with a nice simple design and no too much words. 3) Perhaps the proposed image above is a bit too busy. Do people have suggestions on whether the image created for this t-shirt should be changed? Should less colors be used for an image intended for a t-shirt, for example? http://www.sugarlabs.org/assets/narrative_10.png with some GNOME feet scattered on. 4) I need someone with graphic design skills to put together a mock up image of the t-shirt to help facilitate moving this forward. Can anyone help? Sorry, no design skills by now :) Cheers, -- Juanjo -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME - Gnome
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 00:20 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: BTW, as far as I know, the GNOME uses Trebuchet MS [1] (correct me if I'm wrong) and I think it is time to change it. Wrong, see http://live.gnome.org/BrandGuidelines ... OK, then it is OK for me. It resembles so much the MS Trebuchet we used to use that I haven't noticed. -- Juanjo Marin [PS: Please do not CC me. I am subscribed to this mailing list.] PS: Sorry for doing that (and sorry to the other cc'ed people !!!). I won't do it again :) -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
