Re: www.gnome3.org launch

2011-01-18 Thread Dave Neary
Hi,

Jason D. Clinton wrote:
 s/real/strong/

Well, I think the by-line is weak, and I'm not a particular fan of Made
of Easy either. But the by-line is not the important thing. The
important thing is: What does this new GNOME enable me to do? How will
my computer experience be better?

If you can come up with a by-line which conveys or evokes some answer to
that, I'm all ears. Made of per^H^H^Hinspiration or Made to inspire
don't really do that for me.


Cheers,
Dave.

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Re: Goodies for GNOME 3.0 launch parties

2011-01-18 Thread Allan Day
Frederic Muller wrote:
 Dear marketing,
 
 Last foundation IRC meeting we touched on the Foundation approval of 
 some budget for goodies to teams that will celebrate GNOME 3.0 on the 
 release date.

Great stuff! I'm looking forward to hearing the details of this (as well
as trying to bag me some goodies)!

 How shall we announce this (and where)?

Planet GNOME, Identica, Twitter, www.gnome.org... any others? (I'm
interested in this too.)

 In fact I am also interested in a more generic question which is how do 
 we usually use our channels to announce stuff? I tried to motivate 
 people with the T-shirt contest but didn't receive much feedback except 
 from the people I contacted personally. How do we actually usually 
 promote stuff outside of the GNOME community? (I thought GUGs would be a 
 good way, but they seem a little bit sleepy ;) ).

Good question! I've been thinking for a while that GNOME needs an
outward facing media channel. The Planet and GNOME News are primarily
places where we talk to ourselves. www.gnome.org is outward facing and
has a news section, but it isn't primarily a news site (you certainly
can't subscribe to it)... A blog or news site where we talk to our
partners and to GNOME enthusiasts would be a great way to promote GNOME
and to keep people in tune with where the project is going. It'd need
volunteers if it were to become an enduring reality, of course...

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Re: www.gnome3.org launch

2011-01-18 Thread Frederic Muller

On 01/18/2011 05:56 PM, Dave Neary wrote:

Hi,

Jason D. Clinton wrote:

s/real/strong/


Well, I think the by-line is weak, and I'm not a particular fan of Made
of Easy either. But the by-line is not the important thing. The
important thing is: What does this new GNOME enable me to do? How will
my computer experience be better?

If you can come up with a by-line which conveys or evokes some answer to
that, I'm all ears. Made of per^H^H^Hinspiration or Made to inspire
don't really do that for me.


Cheers,
Dave.



I kind of feel the same as Dave, but having nothing better to say I have 
kept quiet. I mean it's always easy to dislike something (for good or 
bad reasons), coming up with better however is another story.


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Re: www.gnome3.org launch

2011-01-18 Thread Andreas Nilsson

On 01/18/2011 10:56 AM, Dave Neary wrote:

Hi,

Jason D. Clinton wrote:

s/real/strong/

Well, I think the by-line is weak, and I'm not a particular fan of Made
of Easy either. But the by-line is not the important thing. The
important thing is: What does this new GNOME enable me to do? How will
my computer experience be better?

If you can come up with a by-line which conveys or evokes some answer to
that, I'm all ears. Made of per^H^H^Hinspiration or Made to inspire
don't really do that for me.
Is it just me, or are we constantly coming up with reasons not to ship 
the website now? :)
Whoever comes up with a better tagline (or want us to get rid of a 
tagline alltogether) can edit the image in the repository.

I want to ship.
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Re: Goodies for GNOME 3.0 launch parties

2011-01-18 Thread Stormy Peters
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:


  How shall we announce this (and where)?

 Planet GNOME, Identica, Twitter, www.gnome.org... any others? (I'm
 interested in this too.)


Facebook too.


  In fact I am also interested in a more generic question which is how do
  we usually use our channels to announce stuff? I tried to motivate
  people with the T-shirt contest but didn't receive much feedback except
  from the people I contacted personally. How do we actually usually
  promote stuff outside of the GNOME community? (I thought GUGs would be a
  good way, but they seem a little bit sleepy ;) ).

 Good question! I've been thinking for a while that GNOME needs an
 outward facing media channel. The Planet and GNOME News are primarily
 places where we talk to ourselves. www.gnome.org is outward facing and
 has a news section, but it isn't primarily a news site (you certainly
 can't subscribe to it)... A blog or news site where we talk to our
 partners and to GNOME enthusiasts would be a great way to promote GNOME
 and to keep people in tune with where the project is going. It'd need
 volunteers if it were to become an enduring reality, of course...

 There are people that have been helping with Facebook and Twitter.

I think a blog would be hard but perhaps a blog that gives excerpts and
points to other articles. That way someone could follow Planet GNOME, GNOME
News and other channels, make a judgement call on what would be interesting
to our users and add them to the feed.

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Re: Goodies for GNOME 3.0 launch parties

2011-01-18 Thread Frederic Muller

On 01/18/2011 10:18 PM, Allan Day wrote:

Frederic Muller wrote:

Dear marketing,

Last foundation IRC meeting we touched on the Foundation approval of
some budget for goodies to teams that will celebrate GNOME 3.0 on the
release date.


Great stuff! I'm looking forward to hearing the details of this (as well
as trying to bag me some goodies)!
You can find the planing document here: 
http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/EventSupport



How shall we announce this (and where)?


Planet GNOME, Identica, Twitter, www.gnome.org... any others? (I'm
interested in this too.)


In fact I am also interested in a more generic question which is how do
we usually use our channels to announce stuff? I tried to motivate
people with the T-shirt contest but didn't receive much feedback except
from the people I contacted personally. How do we actually usually
promote stuff outside of the GNOME community? (I thought GUGs would be a
good way, but they seem a little bit sleepy ;) ).


Good question! I've been thinking for a while that GNOME needs an
outward facing media channel. The Planet and GNOME News are primarily
places where we talk to ourselves. www.gnome.org is outward facing and
has a news section, but it isn't primarily a news site (you certainly
can't subscribe to it)... A blog or news site where we talk to our
partners and to GNOME enthusiasts would be a great way to promote GNOME
and to keep people in tune with where the project is going. It'd need
volunteers if it were to become an enduring reality, of course...

Allan


Sorry I wasn't clear. In fact I was wondering if we had a list of 
contacts (as in LUGs, news sites, community sites, distributions sites) 
to who we were in touch with and pushing information to?


as well as a 'tracking mechanism' to know for each communication item 
who had been contacted and not?


If not I definitely don't mind starting a wiki page (though how safe is 
it to put a list of contacts?) and start to put the people I spam with 
my current GNOME information. It's probably best that the point of 
contact to the group we know well remains the same, but that at each 
'communication item' we coordinate and spread the news outside of our 
gnome circle.


Note that I am not sure a wiki page is the best way so please feel free 
to comment on the idea (if it's not already implemented in some ways).


Thanks.

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Re: Goodies for GNOME 3.0 launch parties

2011-01-18 Thread Luis Medinas
Ter, 2011-01-18 às 08:41 -0700, Stormy Peters escreveu:
 
 
 On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  How shall we announce this (and where)?
 
 
 Planet GNOME, Identica, Twitter, www.gnome.org... any others?
 (I'm
 interested in this too.)
 
 Facebook too. 
 

I will announce on FB as usual... and also upload some current
screenshots. Maybe i can add Jason video there too.
We have lot's of marketing to add to FB now.

Cheers
Luis


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Re: Q4 Updates Due

2011-01-18 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 18:53 +0100, Dave Neary wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Bastien Nocera wrote:
  I'd be happy to do so. What exactly do you expect me to write here? I'll
  be making the choice of bidder public as soon as they've contacted me
  back.
 
 Perhaps just that? We selected the successful candidate for the Maemo 
 GNOME maintenance work and there will be an announcement soon. They will
 be doing X, Y and Z over the next few months, and input, guidance and
 patches from community members interested are welcome


The GNOME Foundation Board selected Igalia as providers for the GTK
+/MeeGo handset integration work. Carlos García Campos and Claudio
Saavedra will be working from 31st January on integrating GTK+ upstream
as a viable toolkit for use on the MeeGo Handset platform. The full
announcement is available on the GNOME Foundation blog
http://blogs.gnome.org/foundation/2011/01/17/gtk-meego-handset-bidders-selected/


Good?

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Re: www.gnome3.org launch

2011-01-18 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote:

 Hi,

 Jason D. Clinton wrote:
  s/real/strong/

 Well, I think the by-line is weak, and I'm not a particular fan of Made
 of Easy either. But the by-line is not the important thing. The
 important thing is: What does this new GNOME enable me to do? How will
 my computer experience be better?

 If you can come up with a by-line which conveys or evokes some answer to
 that, I'm all ears. Made of per^H^H^Hinspiration or Made to inspire
 don't really do that for me.


Since I like the inspirational part of it, how about:

GNOME-3 - The inspirational desktop for the rest of us

GNOME-3 - The utilitarian desktop for the rest of us

GNOME-3 - Where utility and inspiration merge

GNOME-3 - Free, utilitarian, inspiring

GNOME-3 - Free, simple, elegant - the desktop for the rest of us

GNOME-3 - Designed for utility, elegance, and freedom

GNOME-3 - So easy a caveman can do it

heh

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Re: Goodies for GNOME 3.0 launch parties

2011-01-18 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 6:18 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Frederic Muller wrote:
  Dear marketing,
 
  Last foundation IRC meeting we touched on the Foundation approval of
  some budget for goodies to teams that will celebrate GNOME 3.0 on the
  release date.

 Great stuff! I'm looking forward to hearing the details of this (as well
 as trying to bag me some goodies)!


Yeah, same here.  It is possible I could throw one in Portland. This is
after all open source central here.  I need to figure out how to do the
logistics of it.  I should probably see if I can get some help with
organizing from the local Linux community.



  How shall we announce this (and where)?

 Planet GNOME, Identica, Twitter, www.gnome.org... any others? (I'm
 interested in this too.)


Someone already mentioned facebook.  But there seems to be one or two
others.  What about Orkut?  I believe that is still fairly popular in latin
countries.


  In fact I am also interested in a more generic question which is how do
  we usually use our channels to announce stuff? I tried to motivate
  people with the T-shirt contest but didn't receive much feedback except
  from the people I contacted personally. How do we actually usually
  promote stuff outside of the GNOME community? (I thought GUGs would be a
  good way, but they seem a little bit sleepy ;) ).

 Good question! I've been thinking for a while that GNOME needs an
 outward facing media channel. The Planet and GNOME News are primarily


Well, GNOME Journal had the design of doing that since the articles were
geared for both inside and outside of our community.  I'm not quite sure
what a media channel like that is supposed to look like?  Sure, Planet and
GNOME assume a particular set of knowlede/idioms and what not.  Would you
have enough content to constantly use that channel that isn't release
information on GNOME modules and what not?  I think that's what you're
trying to say here, right?



 places where we talk to ourselves. www.gnome.org is outward facing and
 has a news section, but it isn't primarily a news site (you certainly
 can't subscribe to it)... A blog or news site where we talk to our
 partners and to GNOME enthusiasts would be a great way to promote GNOME
 and to keep people in tune with where the project is going. It'd need
 volunteers if it were to become an enduring reality, of course...


By partners I assume you mean distros like Ubuntu and Fedora?   Yes, it will
require quite a bit of work.  Generating content is a lot of work with a set
of volunteers.  Especially when apps for instance tend to be similar in
scope.  You have a lot of mail clients, a lot of panel replacements and so
forth they aren't particularly interesting for a working family, a family
with kids and so forth.  The apps tend to reflect a demographic in GNOME
that isn't quite in tune with families.  Perhaps I'm just being cynical.  As
I grow older I'm not as enamored of panel replacements or funky widgets like
I used to be.  I am interested in how GNOME will make my life easier by
generating recipes for dinner, providing me with a list of news in the
morning to read, keeping in touch with relatives and friends, reminding me
that I have a doctors appt today (I really do have one), or the latest
sports scores in the teams I'm interested in.  I want those apps.  If you
want to market to GNOME enthusiasts, it's not just the desktop itself which
we want to fade in the background as much as possible, but the apps it
generates.

Food for thought.

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Re: Q4 Updates Due

2011-01-18 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote:

 On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 18:53 +0100, Dave Neary wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Bastien Nocera wrote:
   I'd be happy to do so. What exactly do you expect me to write here?
 I'll
   be making the choice of bidder public as soon as they've contacted me
   back.
 
  Perhaps just that? We selected the successful candidate for the Maemo 
  GNOME maintenance work and there will be an announcement soon. They will
  be doing X, Y and Z over the next few months, and input, guidance and
  patches from community members interested are welcome

 
 The GNOME Foundation Board selected Igalia as providers for the GTK
 +/MeeGo handset integration work. Carlos García Campos and Claudio
 Saavedra will be working from 31st January on integrating GTK+ upstream
 as a viable toolkit for use on the MeeGo Handset platform. The full
 announcement is available on the GNOME Foundation blog
 
 http://blogs.gnome.org/foundation/2011/01/17/gtk-meego-handset-bidders-selected/
 
 

 Good?



Out of curiosity, will Meego do a joint announcement as well?

To keep this focused:

For immediate release, the GNOME Foundation has selected Igalia to
integrate the GTK+ toolkit as part of the MeeGo handset platform.  Carlos
Garcia Campos and Claudio Saavedra will lead the effort starting the 31st of
January to make GTK+ a viable toolkit for use in the MeeGo Handset
platform.  The full announcement is available on GNOME Foundation blog 
http://blogs.gnome.org/foundation/2011/01/17/gtk-meego-handset-bidders-selected/


I'm hoping that when people scan the press release they see in order Igalia
integrate GTK+ MeeGo Handset Platform.

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Re: www.gnome3.org launch

2011-01-18 Thread Calum Benson

On 18 Jan 2011, at 17:09, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:

 Since I like the inspirational part of it, how about:
 
 GNOME-3 - The inspirational desktop for the rest of us
 
 GNOME-3 - The utilitarian desktop for the rest of us
 
 GNOME-3 - Where utility and inspiration merge
 
 GNOME-3 - Free, utilitarian, inspiring

A pity that Inspiration is Free already seems to have been taken... although 
by what, exactly, I'm not sure: http://inspirationisfree.com/

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Re: www.gnome3.org launch

2011-01-18 Thread Olav Vitters
gnome3.org has been setup by Christer Edwards.

Some typos were found, so created a repos for the website called
gnome3-web. It'll auto-update the site within 5min from cron. Just
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Re: www.gnome3.org launch

2011-01-18 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Andreas Nilsson nisses.m...@home.sewrote:

 On 01/18/2011 10:56 AM, Dave Neary wrote:

 Hi,

 Jason D. Clinton wrote:

 s/real/strong/

 Well, I think the by-line is weak, and I'm not a particular fan of Made
 of Easy either. But the by-line is not the important thing. The
 important thing is: What does this new GNOME enable me to do? How will
 my computer experience be better?

 If you can come up with a by-line which conveys or evokes some answer to
 that, I'm all ears. Made of per^H^H^Hinspiration or Made to inspire
 don't really do that for me.

 Is it just me, or are we constantly coming up with reasons not to ship the
 website now? :)
 Whoever comes up with a better tagline (or want us to get rid of a tagline
 alltogether) can edit the image in the repository.
 I want to ship.


Yeah, I agree, let's just not add any tagline for now and just put it out
there.  We can always add it later I think.

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GNOME Hackfest and GNOME.Asia Summit announcements

2011-01-18 Thread Frederic Muller

Dear all,

Here is a draft announcement of the 2 major upcoming events that will 
happen right before the GNOME 3.0 release. I hereby submit the text for 
your review and comments, and once we're all ok with the content, 
grammar and web links (I think there should be more and they should 
probably point to gnome.asia once it's launched - 1/2 more days).


These 2 announcements should appear on gnome.org upcoming event section 
and on gnome.asia website.


 announcement start -

*GNOME 3.0 Bangalore Hackfest 2011*
/March 28 - April 1 2011, Bangalore, India/

We are hosting a 5 days hackfest (March 28 - April 1) for the release, 
documentation and marketing teams focusing on GNOME 3.0 release. This 
will ensure some heavy testing of the code during the last week before 
the official release of GNOME 3.0, as well as preparing the release to 
happen in an optimal way. And at the same time, it will help the 
marketing team to clarify messaging when needed and finalize the launch 
details.
It is not primarily aimed at users or new contributors but we may 
organize some training and hands on sessions during the last 3 days of 
the hackfest (March 30 to April 1). Apart from that any contributor 
involved in the release process is strongly encourage to join.


Please let us know you are coming by registering on the Bangalore 
Hackfest 2011 page http://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/GNOME.Asia2011.


*GNOME.Asia Summit 2011*
/April 2 2011, Bangalore, India/

Right after the GNOME 3.0 Bangalore Hackfest, we will jump on the 
opportunity of having a lot of the GNOME developers already on site to 
aim for the greatest GNOME.Asia Summit of all time. Now in its forth 
year, GNOME.Asia Summit will have the pleasure to continue to bring 
GNOME to users and developers in Asia and more specifically India this 
year, but also to celebrate the release of GNOME 3.0 with the people who 
actually write the software!
The event will bring the light on the GNOME desktop both from a 
applications and a development platform point of view, as well as 
strengthen the GNOME community across borders.


Visitors should expect great insights into how GNOME 3.0 will transform 
their desktop experience, the changes and improvements under the hood 
and how to make the best out of this new desktop environment both from a 
developer and user perspective.


The call for papers is already out at 
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeAsia/CallForPaper and we hope to receive a 
lot of submissions from the Hackfest participants. We are also 
finalizing our call for sponsors and, depending on the momentum, 
planning for an extra conference day to cover all the topics (based on 
available budget and paper submissions). So stay tuned and visit 
Gnome.asia for the latest information!


 announcement end -

Thanks a lot.

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Re: GCI: Update Gnome Usergroup Info, Introduction

2011-01-18 Thread Frederic Muller

On 01/14/2011 05:57 AM, Jason Lo wrote:

I got some more info from China, and I received some really good contact
info updates from Bangalore. I will update the wiki page accordingly.


Hi!

I'm curious as to what feedback you got from the Bangalore group: we're 
currently preparing for both a GNOME 3.0 hackfest and the 4th edition of 
GNOME.Asia summit, their website has been down for quite some time and 
when asking 'around' it seems they have nothing going on.


We also discovered a 'GNOME India' at http://gnome-in.sarovar.org/, so I 
believe all in all it's a great opportunity to wake up all those people 
and inject them with fresh blood.


Please let us know if you know more than we do.

Thanks.

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