Re: revised the press release
On 22 Mar 2013, at 12:06, Calum Benson calum.ben...@oracle.com wrote: GNOME 3.8, the latest update of the free software project which continues to refine and redefine the concept of the user experience. Forgot to say I also think this sentence should read that continues to rather than which continues to, but you might want to confirm with a proper grammar-head like Shaun :) (My rule of thumb is that 'which' is the one to use after a parenthetical mark, otherwise 'that', but I'm sure that isn't foolproof…) -- CALUM BENSONInteraction Designer +353 1 803 3807 Systems Experience Design http://blogs.oracle.com/calum Oracle EMEA Ltd., Ireland -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: revised the press release
On 22 Mar 2013, at 05:39, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Here is the revised press release. I'd like more eyeballs on it if possible. Karen and I spent a little time on it tonight as we said we would. http://piratepad.net/j4B5vOQBep My initial reaction is that if I didn't already know what GNOME was, I'd probably have stopped reading by the time I got to the quote in the fifth paragraph that gave me any clues :) (Yes, I know there's an obligatory About GNOME section at the bottom, but people still tend to read press releases from top to bottom.) The all-important first paragraph, in particular, seems particularly light on useful details: GNOME 3.8, the latest update of the free software project which continues to refine and redefine the concept of the user experience. So I can tell it's a free software project, which is good :) But the concept of the user experience doesn't really tell me anything. User experience is only meaningful in the context of particular people doing particular things, but there's no mention here of who those people might be or what they might be doing. (And would I really care about the concept of the user experience, rather than just the *actual* user experience?) Couple of other random observations: - Typo: Every Details Matter should be Every Detail Matters - approximately 1,112 people: that's not really an approximation :) It should be 1,112 people, or approximately 1100 people, or over 1100 people. - I know Stefano is not a native English speaker, but his quote is grammatically incorrect -- it should be for many years, not since many years. I don't know if the marketing team has any guidelines about if/when it's acceptable to make grammatical corrections to direct quotes, but you might consider it… in a formal press release, any poor grammar might seem a bit unprofessional. --Calum. -- CALUM BENSONInteraction Designer +353 1 803 3807 Systems Experience Design http://blogs.oracle.com/calum Oracle EMEA Ltd., Ireland -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Expectations of 'Classic' mode
On 15 Feb 2013, at 10:52, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: Names have been thought of: - Traditional - Classic GNOME Lite? :) -- CALUM BENSONInteraction Designer +353 1 803 3807 Systems Experience Design http://blogs.oracle.com/calum Oracle EMEA Ltd., Ireland -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Expectations of 'Classic' mode
On 25 Feb 2013, at 17:40, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Eww.. let's not call it Lite anything because it sounds like it is inferior to GNOME 3 and I don't want to give that impression. Don't worry, I hate the term myself so I was mostly joking :) (But on the other hand, if we didn't believe GNOME 3 was a superior experience, there would be no reason to have stopped working on GNOME 2… and 'Lite' does perhaps actually convey a suitability for less capable hardware, which is less obvious with 'Classic'.) --Calum. -- CALUM BENSONInteraction Designer +353 1 803 3807 Systems Experience Design http://blogs.oracle.com/calum Oracle EMEA Ltd., Ireland -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME infographics
On 16 Dec 2012, at 09:08, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2012/12/14/mozilla-in-2012/ Text that gains no additional value by putting it into a graphic, just making it more colorful and less accessible. I'd agree that this has to be one of the poorest 'infographics' I've seen (and that in general, if it's mostly just some numbers in a big font, it's not really an infographic at all). That's not to say GNOME couldn't do a decent one, though. -- CALUM BENSONInteraction Designer +353 1 803 3807 Systems Experience Design http://blogs.oracle.com/calum Oracle EMEA Ltd., Ireland -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: www.gnome3.org launch
On 19 Jan 2011, at 07:21, Pockey Lam wrote: Someone just reported there is a dead link regarding the FAQ page (common questions and answers): Try it: http://gnome3.org/www.gnome3.org/trytit.html Also on the FAQ and Try It pages, you shouldn't use this page as a hyperlink -- bad for accessibility, and just generally for anyone quickly scanning the page. The link text should describe where the link is going. Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Interaction Designer Oracle Corporation Ireland Ltd. mailto:calum.ben...@oracle.com Solaris Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Oracle Corp. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: www.gnome3.org launch
On 18 Jan 2011, at 17:09, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Since I like the inspirational part of it, how about: GNOME-3 - The inspirational desktop for the rest of us GNOME-3 - The utilitarian desktop for the rest of us GNOME-3 - Where utility and inspiration merge GNOME-3 - Free, utilitarian, inspiring A pity that Inspiration is Free already seems to have been taken... although by what, exactly, I'm not sure: http://inspirationisfree.com/ Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Interaction Designer Oracle Corporation Ireland Ltd. mailto:calum.ben...@oracle.com Solaris Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Oracle Corp. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Annual gift Friends Of Gnome (Please reply asap)
On 18 Nov 2010, at 03:51, Joey Ferwerda wrote: Inlined Text/No Borders: http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/2thljc7b/GnomeFootInsetNoEdges.png Inlined Text/With Borders http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/7cj15bfh/GnomeFootInsetWithEdges.png Outside Text/No Borders http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/adoa3ach/GnomeFootFront.png Outside Text/With Borders http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/c595mivw/GnomeFootEdgedFront.png Personally I'd prefer it without the text at all... you wouldn't normally see GNOME written anywhere inside the logo because it's in breach of the logo guidelines, and it just makes the whole thing look too 'busy' IMHO. (Also, shouldn't the text around the edge say Friends of GNOME, rather than Friends of Gnome?) Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Interaction Designer Oracle Corporation Ireland Ltd. mailto:calum.ben...@oracle.com Solaris Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Oracle Corp. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Do-Gooders and Other Free License Recipients...
On 15 Oct 2009, at 05:44, Guy Lunardi wrote: Stormy suggested we reach out to the usability team to see what they think. FWIW, here's the reply I sent to Guy's message to the usability list. Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Interaction Designer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.ben...@sun.comOpenSolaris Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems ---BeginMessage--- On 15 Oct 2009, at 17:10, Guy Lunardi wrote: Also, I understand of course that YOU do not need such a tool. Inkscape and the likes can do the same. The idea is for everyone else (people like myself) to generate mockups to share their ideas. There's actually a whole bunch of tools out there for doing this sort of thing now... ForeUI (Java) and FlairBuilder (AIR) are another couple of good cross-platform ones: http://www.foreui.com/ http://www.flairbuilder.com/ CogTool from Carnegie Mellon is a particularly interesting one -- it's free and open source, and it automatically evaluates your prototypes using a predictive human performance model. But that, as you might expect, does make it a bit harder to learn and use: http://cogtool.hcii.cs.cmu.edu/ (Despite apparently just being a Java + clisp app, they say it doesn't run on Linux and there are no plans to make it do so -- maybe that would be an interesting project for somebody here?) Cheeri, Calum. -Embedded Message- From: Guy Lunardi gluna...@novell.com gluna...@novell.com To: marketing-list@gnome.org Sent: Sun Oct 11 08:23:37 2009 Subject: Do-Gooders and Other Free License Recipients... All, While I realize that their software doesn't use any GNOME technologies, it is still a very useful tool that I personally use often for projects. I was wondering if anyone thought that contacting Balsamiq and asking them to consider donating licenses to GNOME Foundation members would be useful? http://www.balsamiq.com/products/mockups Having used their software for quite some time, I know that the projects we used it for had a much great user experience focus during the early development cycles because of it. It might be a great opportunity for GNOME to increase its emphasis on user experience. We could for example use this software as part of some of our outreach programs (collect feedback earlier on designs). Please let me know what you think. Best regards, -Guy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -End of Embedded Message- ___ Usability mailing list usabil...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability -- CALUM BENSON, Interaction Designer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.ben...@sun.comOpenSolaris Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems ___ Usability mailing list usabil...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability ---End Message--- -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: promoting good gnome apps via news.gnome.org
On 16 Jun 2009, at 11:26, Andreas Nilsson wrote: In some cases, you can even include just a link that people can click. You can install, say, Transmission in Ubuntu from the browser using a link pointing to apt:transmission, and in OpenSUSE you can use the one click installer-thing http://software.opensuse.org/ymp/openSUSE:11.1/standard/transmission.ymp . The closest thing I could find for Fedora is outlined in a blog post from Hugsie [1], but that requires a mozilla plugin apparently. And FWIW, OpenSolaris also has one-click web install for its IPS packaging system: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/desktop/testing/projects/new-app/webinstall/ Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.ben...@sun.comOpenSolaris Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Please test the Friends of GNOME survey!
On 28 May 2009, at 14:53, Stormy Peters wrote: GNOME Marketing team, Can you please test the Friends of GNOME survey? Please try to answer the multiple choice accurately so we can see how the options work, but don't spend much time on the free form questions as we'll be deleting the database before we send it out to Friends of GNOME. This is just for testing. I'll leave it open for testing until Sunday afternoon MDT. http://www.gnome.org/~behdad/survey/index.php?sid=16424lang=enhttp://www.gnome.org/%7Ebehdad/survey/index.php?sid=16424lang=en Do you use... question has options for on Windows and on KDE, but no option for on Mac OS X, which seems like a bit of an oversight... Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.ben...@sun.comOpenSolaris Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Cultural Issue with the Foot Logo
On 6 Nov 2008, at 10:37, Theppitak Karoonboonyanan wrote: On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you could contact the GNOME Art team. They could make some suggestions. Don't focus on the Gnome idea. Few people think of small mythical beings when they think of GNOME. Unfortunately, I don't have a good suggestion. Some other form of G, maybe? In my vague memory, some GNOME 1.x versions used to use a flower logo at the main menu. And after some search, I've found some evidences: Ah yes. During our GNOME 1.2 usability study, some of our participants memorably asked what's the fried egg for? :) Other than that, a (well-designed) flower might be a pretty good call-- it has some history in GNOME, and it symbolises all those hippie values that are shared by the open source community :) Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]GNOME Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Cultural Issue with the Foot Logo
On 30 Oct 2008, at 09:24, Theppitak Karoonboonyanan wrote: You mean something the GPE project is currently using? http://gpe.handhelds.org/ Actually, I'd guess a hand is probably the worst choice, as there are probably more offensive hand gestures than are possible with any other part of the body :) Even an open palm, like the GPE logo, is potentially offensive in some places. (Greece? I think it was something originally used by the Byzantines, anyway...) Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]GNOME Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Cultural Issue with the Foot Logo
On 29 Oct 2008, at 09:18, Theppitak Karoonboonyanan wrote: Hello, I have thought about this issue for a while whether it should be raised or not, as the logo has been in use for a long time. And I'm not sure if it's ever discussed anywhere about the cultural issue with the GNOME's foot logo, which may obstruct GNOME promotion in some way. Yep, it's been brought up from time to time. I actually first mentioned it back in 2001! http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-2-0-list/2001-October/msg00264.html -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]GNOME Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: [g-a-devel] GNOME Accessibility presentation - contribution to stock GNOME presentations
On 1 Oct 2008, at 11:01, Dave Neary wrote: Hi Willie, Willie Walker wrote: http://master.gnome.org/~wwalker/dwell-click.avi http://master.gnome.org/~wwalker/theming.avi http://master.gnome.org/~wwalker/keyboard-enhancements.avi http://master.gnome.org/~wwalker/enable-a11y.avi Cool stuff! You used recordmydesktop, you say? One piece of feedback: I've found in my demos that setting high contrast large print inverse makes the desktop hard to put back the way it was, If you mean that there's no quick way to revert the font size, then yes, it's a pain, but one that has apparently never been considered important enough to fix (see http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104913 , for example.) It's slightly less of a pain now that the Theme and Fonts settings are reunited in the same dialog, but the lack of any way to set/increase/ decrease all the disparate font sizes at the same time is still a hassle (even disregarding a11y issues.) and some windows behave badly with the theme (some dialogs grows off the edge of the screen and I can't get at the buttons to dismiss the dialog). Have you found the same thing? This problem is kind of tough to deal with automatically, I'd imagine. Only generic fix I can think of would be an option to automatically reposition windows as you keynav through them, to ensure that the focused control was always on-screen (a bit like the screen magnifier does when following keyboard focus, but without any actual screen magnification involved). But that doesn't help so much if you don't/can't use the keyboard. The best 'fix' is really for applications to follow the HIG's advice, and test their dialogs with large print fonts on small displays. But that's not always a realistic constraint for complex dialogs. Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]GNOME Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: free graphic excitement
On 9 Sep 2008, at 00:40, Andre Klapper wrote: Am Montag, den 08.09.2008, 14:38 -0500 schrieb James Coddington: http://www.soaringbrain.com/GnomeTest2.swf (Personal feedback, not speaking on behalf of Marketing team:) From a technical point of view I wonder how much slower this will make login time. If we still have a splash screen in ten years, we have done something wrong. (I think I quoted dobey here.) Also wondering if this would annoy me when I log in for the, say, 30th time. Inclined to agree-- might be worth showing once per user, though, like the Welcome to OSX sort of thing that Apple do. After that, probably just leave it somewhere that people can find it again, if they want to. Could be interesting to use this sort of technology to do a GNOME desktop tour video, though, especially if it was updated to highlight the coolest features in each release :) (Although one problem that's always existed with that idea is that not all distros ship all GNOME features, and/or add their own...) Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]GNOME Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: random request: security GNOME angles?
On 28 Jul 2008, at 18:20, Dave Neary wrote: Hi Stormy, Stormy Peters wrote: I get requests from reporters sometimes to talk about random open source topics, like open source applications used by governments or security. I've gotten several in the last month or two about security. Can you think of or point me to any security-related GNOME stuff that I could drop in at the appropriate moment during those interviews? I would talk to the Red Hat SELinux guys. Jonathan Blandford will know them better than me if you ask him. And also, Sun's Trusted GNOME Desktop[1] guys-- secure desktops are a pretty important market for Solaris. Best contact there is probably Stephen Browne (cc'ed). Cheeri, Calum. [1] Bit out of date now, but some info at http://blogs.sun.com/Stephen/entry/trusted_jds_screenshots -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]GNOME Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Mug Update
On 12 Mar 2008, at 21:56, Shaun McCance wrote: On a more productive note, I've always loved the official desktop of happy people tag line. It's very positive, and very mass-appeal. Ergo, The official [mug|beverage] of happy people...? -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]GNOME Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: On distro users feedback
On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 12:44 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: My thinking was always that this was part of the role of the bugsquad, since you can't do a good job processing bugs without understanding user needs, project priorities, etc., Or to put it another way- if bugsquad doesn't have a lot of the same skills as a hypothetical userfeedbacksquad, it isn't a very good bugsquad. Certainly somewhat true, I guess a feedbacksquad could be considered the bugsquad's UI, in a literal sense :) I wouldn't necessarily expect all feedback to translate into bugs, though-- I think one of our current problems is that the stuff that doesn't belong in bugzilla often just gets stuck in whatever mailing list / blog / wiki page / IRC channel / web forum it started in, where it may or may not be chanced upon by future Googling exploits. I'd like to think a feedback squad could maybe corral that sort of stuff into a more centralised location. Heck, even if there was just a single GNOME search engine somewhere that would search the main GNOME resources (mailing list, bugzilla, blogs, wiki, gnomesupport.org, maybe some distro's user forums-- can't do IRC I guess) in one fell swoop, it might be a good start... sun.com's search works a bit like this [1]. (Maybe this is planned for the new w.g.o?) Cheeri, Calum. [1] http://onesearch.sun.com/search/onesearch/index.jsp?charset=UTF-8qt=gnomecol=all-unfilteredcs=falsert=true ... returns results from www.sun.com, blogs, documentation, bug reports etc. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]GNOME Desktop Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: About standards
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 11:28 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Le dimanche 01 avril 2007, à 01:45, Quim Gil a écrit : Dear lazy mailinglist: I'm facing the writing of https://edit.gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/take-the-tour/usable-accessible-standards-quality The page is called Standarized and we will include there (as you see from the provisional URL) usability, accessibility and quality in general. Can you help listing the standards worth mentioning we are following, promoting, building... We have the HIG. We have freedesktop.org. What else? Note that freedesktop.org things are not standards: they're specifications :-) For that matter, the HIG things aren't standards either, they're guidelines... Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]GNOME Desktop Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Working Draft
On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 10:23 +0100, Thilo Pfennig wrote: On 3/5/07, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I the only one who doesn't get excited by the prospect of being able to see my disk usage as a ring chart? Well actually I only use such an application when my hard disk is full, which now only happens rarely (when Beagle gets wild on my old laptop). And I think this is something less and less users will see. So I really don't think this is an exciting application at all. Its a geeky tool. Have to say it actually took me quite a while to figure out what the ring was actually showing me, too... it's pretty, but I can't say it's the most intuitive visualization of disk space usage I've ever seen. Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]GNOME Desktop Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: wgo/get_involved/spread_gnome
On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 01:39 +0200, Quim Gil wrote: Paul Cutler is a writer volunteering at drafting http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/get-involved/spread-gnome Please suggest improvements to this page and keep him CCed. As you see he has some questions at the end of the page. Give a presentation on GNOME at your local Linux User Group: Bearing in mind that GNOME doesn't just run on Linux, could we spread the word even more by phrasing this so that [Open]Solaris, FreeBSD (et al.) user groups don't feel left out...? Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]GNOME Desktop Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: wgo/get_involved/spread_gnome
On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 18:23 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: Calum Benson wrote: Give a presentation on GNOME at your local Linux User Group: Bearing in mind that GNOME doesn't just run on Linux, could we spread the word even more by phrasing this so that [Open]Solaris, FreeBSD (et al.) user groups don't feel left out...? How would you like to phrase that? The problem (from the point of view of Unix user groups in general) is that LUG is now ubiquitous, and there are many more of them than any other species of user group. I'm not sure that there's any great need to qualify user group at all, unless you particularly want to specify computer user groups or PC user groups (lest people think it would be an appropriate topic for their local Remington Fuzzaway gathering). A lot of GNOME apps run happily on Windows and Mac too, after all, so I'm sure even those guys (or especially those guys?) might learn something from a presentation or two :) Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]GNOME Desktop Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Project Organogram
On 14 Feb 2007, at 16:02, Joachim wrote: On 2/13/07, Calum Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 11:59 +, Joachim wrote: But for this to happen, we need the HIG to be updated, and for that to happen I think we need library.g.o up and running. snip Anyway, I really do intend to start working on the HIG again when I have time, but that's just something I never seem to have much of these days :/ Sorry Calum, I didn't mean to put you on the spot! You've mentioned several times that you have a fair bit of work done on your working copy of the HIG but that it's all in rough form -- could you maybe commit that to SVN so others can help? All the latest changes that physically exist are already in SVN, in the 'hig' module, and are viewable at http://developer.gnome.org/ projects/gup/hig/draft_hig_new/. (Or possibly web-devel-2/content/ projects/gup/hig, if the hig alias doesn't work since the CVS-SVN migration.) What I haven't done any actual work on is the grand refactoring of the HIG that I've often thought about and mentioned, but we should probably get at least one more tidied up release of the current- format HIG released before going down that route anyway. Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Java Desktop System Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Project Organogram
On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 11:59 +, Joachim wrote: But for this to happen, we need the HIG to be updated, and for that to happen I think we need library.g.o up and running. Well, not necessarily, I'd only expect the 'stable' version of the HIG to be hosted on library.gnome.org anyway (or has that plan changed again?) Anyway, I really do intend to start working on the HIG again when I have time, but that's just something I never seem to have much of these days :/ Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]GNOME Desktop Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Header design mock 11/10
On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 16:27 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: The breakdown of the wgo site navigation is here: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/NewWgoStructure This was actually agreed last cycle, and we're almost at the stage of writing the content. But if you feel we should do that, then I suppose we can. Nah, I don't really want to derail the process, I know the info architecture is a good way down the road now. (And it's not that I spotted any huge flaws in it, I was just curious, really.) Although I don't know if anyone other than you has the experience and the resources to do any card-sorting -- I for one wouldn't have a clue where to begin. It's easy enough to do-- infodesign.com.au has a nice one-page summary of card sorting and other common usability techniques: http://infodesign.com.au/usabilityresources/design/cardsorting.asp The hard part, as always, is finding the right people to do it with... I guess rounding up some users at GUADEC would have been useful (if still not ideal, because a lot of the types of people you're trying to serve wouldn't have been there), but I know you hadn't even really started planning this stuff until then. Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Java Desktop System Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Header design mock 11/10
On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 15:59 +, Calum Benson wrote: It's easy enough to do-- infodesign.com.au has a nice one-page summary of card sorting and other common usability techniques: http://infodesign.com.au/usabilityresources/design/cardsorting.asp (See also http://www.infodesign.com.au/usabilityresources/general/affinitydiagramming.asp) Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Java Desktop System Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Header design mock 11/10
On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 08:52 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: Commenting on the latest design here: http://mihmo.livejournal.com/33555.html I think it looks fantastic. Big improvement on the previous version (and I liked that one anyway). (http://mihmo.livejournal.com/33530.html) It looks much more open and brighter. The separation of the general navbar and the local header works very well. So does the more prominent GNOME logo. Good stuff. As someone who hasn't really been following the design process, my immediate reaction is: - Looks really nice and clean, but I'd be a little worried that the top (black) bar might be too 'hidden'-- I've often wandered around for ages on sites like this, where there's some obvious primary navigation mechanism (the tabs in this case) looking for a link I knew must be there, only to discover there was a whole different set of links right at the top that I hadn't noticed before. But maybe that's just me :) - (Wearing noob user's hat) Some of the links seem a bit vague, e.g. what's the difference between the News link and the news I'm looking at on the home page, and why should I ever need to visit an About page-- shouldn't all the other pages cover everything 'about' GNOME that I'd ever want to know? (Btw, has anyone done any card-sorting type exercises to check that the categories we think make sense are the ones our target audience thinks make sense?) Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Java Desktop System Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Defining products list and pages
On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 13:56 +0200, Gergely Nagy wrote: On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 12:58 +0200, Claus Schwarm wrote: Maybe it's useful to remember that the products.html page was in the 'About' section: The navigation of the product pages needs some serious thought unless we want to go deeper than a 3 level navigation or make 'Products' a top-level item. When I was writing my BSc thesis on accessible CMSs, I did some research on navigation. According to [1] the optimal size for a menu is about 5-7 entries, and that they are preferably shallow, so avoid deep hierarchies. This is indeed pretty standard usability advice, although as usual with this sort of thing it's not completely cut and dried. Some more useful analysis/references here: http://www.humanfactors.com/downloads/apr03.asp . Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Java Desktop System Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: *.gnome.org partitioning draft
On 20 Jul 2006, at 13:27, Calum Benson wrote: Is there really any need for the intermediate projects level in the URL, btw? I always find it unbelievably convenient that the home page for every major Apple application is just http://www.apple.com/ appname, for example. Although it seems those URLs are just redirects to the actual application page, so I guess I'm just saying it might be good to have www.gnome.org/appname redirect to www.gnome.org/projects/appname. Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Java Desktop System Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: *.gnome.org partitioning draft
On 20 Jul 2006, at 22:34, John Hwang wrote: In light of the non-developer end-users, http://www.gnome.org/project/nautilus seems like too much information. Project has a specific meaning about nautilus and a user doesn't care that nautilus is a project of Gnome. In my opinion, http://gnome.org/nautlius or even http://gnome.org/programs/nautilus makes more sense. Of course, nautilus is a particularly troublesome case anyway, because many users will potentially never know that their file manager is called 'nautilus' at all. So perhaps we'd need to set up something like gnome.org/filemanager as well... Cheeri, Calum. On 7/20/06, Thomas Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Calum Benson wrote: On 20 Jul 2006, at 07:59, Quim Gil wrote: Ok, then we would have www.gnome.org/projects/* pages which would be feature pages from projects, probably elaborated by the marketing team, while the project pages themselves would fall out of our responsibility and would be placed under projects.gnome.org/* Since we don't have project feature pages, all the current projects should be under projects.gnome.org/* , we need to decide which feature pages we want to have for the current release under www.gnome.org/projects/*, and do them. Is there really any need for the intermediate projects level in the URL, btw? I always find it unbelievably convenient that the home page for every major Apple application is just http:// www.apple.com/ appname, for example. I would tend to agree here. I think it is important we have a number of gnome.org branded home pages for the key applications within the desktop, like apple.com does. For example, and introductory page for nautilus might be at www.gnome.org/nautilus or www.gnome.org/projects/nautilus. This would serve as both informative and marketing to new users. Whenever I see projects.gnome.org it makes me think of a sourceforge type site the provides hosting and other services. Do we really want to be a hosting service for some (but not all) gnome related projects? Even sourceforge does not have directory level urls for each project. Instead, each project gets it's own sub-domain. If we went ahead with just moving gnome.org/projects to projects.gnome.org, I don't think we would be solving any problems. The only problem with /projects at the moment is that it frequently causes problems with the website build. We could solve this by moving it out into separate module(s). The only other problem is that the sites don't follow the www.gnome.org design, but I think this is outside the scope of the main www.gnome.org revamp (we need to concentrate on our content, not other people's). I hadn't prepared a partitioning draft yet, partly because I hadn't been aware my name was next to the task, but also because I can not see many reasons for changing most of the current arrangement. The only changes I would make would be to either update or remove developer.gnome.org, and move some of the more anomalous sub-domains to other places (e.g. glade.gnome.org moves to www.gnome.org/projects/glade). So, let's focus on sorting out our own content before we start moving other things around. We will have to provide legacy links anyway, so there seems little point in moving something unless we are absolutely in agreement it's what we want to do. -Thomas -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Java Desktop System Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: On breaking the woohoo barrier...thoughts on how GNOME can get great
On 17 Jul 2006, at 11:36, Gergely Nagy wrote: Yet, if you said I think it applies more to Josh than Harrison, I would have to go and look up who they really are. But if you said I think it applies more to the admin guy than the programmer, I could easily say yes, you are right :) That's just a question of familiarity though... the whole point is that you should get to know your personas as well as you know your friends. Of course, that's why it really helps to include photos... some companies even encourage you to pin the persona photos on your cubicle wall so they're always in your thoughts when you're writing or designing stuff :) Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Java Desktop System Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: On breaking the woohoo barrier...thoughts on how GNOME can get great
Quim Gil wrote: El dv 14 de 07 del 2006 a les 08:41 +0200, en/na Murray Cumming va escriure: Should anyone ever get around to creating some GNOME personas Someone started http://live.gnome.org/Personas months ago. Yeesh, didn't know that. Has anybody ever come up with an effective way of keeping track of what on earth is happening on wikis, without subscribing to every change? There's probably loads of stuff on there I'd be interested in, but have no way of ever knowing about, and no time to poke around randomly what with having to keep up with mailing lists, IRC, bugzilla, gnomesupport.org... I hate wikis :) Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Java Desktop System Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Personas (was: Re: On breaking the woohoo barrier...)
On Fri, 2006-07-14 at 16:15 +0200, David Neary wrote: Look at RecentChanges regularly. Bleah :) Even that's only useful if people add meaningful change comments, which many don't. It used to be available as an RSS feed, but that seems to have dropped off with the recent upgrade. True... trouble with RSS feeds is that most of them don't go back far enough to prevent me from missing stuff between successive firings-up of my feed reader :/ Teenager, intensive email (personal), intensive IM (msn) is not good profiling or persona. Quite agree, but if nothing else I now know we have somewhere to put better profiles when we have them :) Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Java Desktop System Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
